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Re: Qbasic

Started byAndrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com>
First post2016-02-21 09:13 +0000
Last post2016-02-27 10:17 -0800
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  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 09:13 +0000
    Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:23 +1100
      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-21 17:38 +0000
        Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 17:59 +0000
        Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:41 +1100
          Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-22 01:21 +0000
            Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 14:00 +1100
            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:48 -0600
              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-22 16:43 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 20:49 -0600
    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 18:15 -0600
      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-24 17:59 -0700
        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-24 19:30 -0600
          Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:20 -0600
        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-24 17:58 -0800
          Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 14:38 +1100
          Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 05:25 -0500
            Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-25 10:22 -0500
            Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 04:31 +1100
            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 15:53 -0800
              Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 21:41 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 14:55 +1100
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-25 20:18 -0800
                  Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:23 -0500
                    Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-26 12:15 +0100
                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:24 -0800
                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:14 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-25 23:34 -0600
                  Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-26 05:38 -0500
                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:46 +0000
                    Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-26 10:14 -0600
                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
                        Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:15 -0500
                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 14:23 -0600
                            Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 15:50 -0500
                              Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:46 -0600
                                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:40 -0500
                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 18:25 -0600
                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:40 -0800
                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
                              Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:32 -0600
                              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 10:39 -0600
                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:23 -0800
                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 14:27 -0700
                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:58 -0800
                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:22 -0700
                                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:03 +1100
                                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 13:52 +0000
                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:56 -0600
                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-26 12:51 -0600
                      Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-26 23:12 -0500
                        Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-27 09:17 +0000
                          Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-02-27 14:37 -0500
                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-27 17:08 -0800
                            Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-28 09:57 +0000
                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-28 15:56 +0100
                                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-28 19:00 -0800
                                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-02-29 22:14 +0000
                            Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-01 22:26 +0000
                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:26 +0000
                                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 13:46 +0000
                                  Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-02 21:09 +0000
                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-03 05:33 +0000
                                Re: Qbasic Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-03-02 19:28 +0000
                                  Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:45 -0800
                                  Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 16:27 -0800
                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-03 01:02 -0800
                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-16 17:59 -0700
                                      Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-17 10:42 -0700
                          Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-27 19:43 +0000
                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:21 -0800
                      Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-27 20:19 +0100
                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-26 08:27 -0600
                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:25 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:30 -0600
            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 15:00 -0600
              Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 13:52 -0800
              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 17:16 -0600
              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-27 18:22 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-27 17:12 -0800
                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:23 -0600
                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 05:43 -0800
                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:34 +1100
                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:41 -0800
                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 11:16 -0600
                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 14:57 -0600
                            Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:55 +1100
                              Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:25 +0000
                                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:46 +0000
                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 09:22 -0600
                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 16:17 +0000
                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 09:58 +0000
                                      Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:17 +1100
                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:59 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:25 +1100
                                  Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:38 +1100
                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:14 +0000
                                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:20 +1100
                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:35 +1100
                                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:35 +1100
                                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:19 -0500
                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-08 00:48 +0000
                          Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:49 +1100
                            Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:12 +0000
                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0600
                              Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 12:49 -0600
                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 11:03 -0800
                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:51 -0600
                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 15:56 -0600
                                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:26 +0000
                                  Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:30 -0600
                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0600
                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:10 +0000
                                      Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 10:36 +0000
                            Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:35 +0000
                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-28 18:41 -0600
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-27 20:12 -0600
        Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-25 18:18 -0600
          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 03:28 -0700
            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-26 15:48 +0000
              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-26 11:20 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 14:09 -0500
                  Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:15 -0600
                Re: Qbasic "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-27 09:22 +1100
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-27 03:13 -0600
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:28 -0800
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-28 12:59 +0000
                  Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 03:32 +1100
                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 08:40 -0800
                      Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 14:36 -0500
                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-28 18:06 -0700
                          Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-28 20:27 -0500
                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:22 -0800
                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:38 +1100
                            Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:40 +0000
                              Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 06:42 +0000
                                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-07 18:35 -0500
                                  Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 13:00 +1100
                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:54 +1100
                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 10:51 +0100
                                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:05 +0000
                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-28 22:06 -0800
                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 19:01 +1100
                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-29 08:58 -0800
                                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 05:01 +1100
                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:46 -0800
                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:24 +0000
                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-01 10:12 -0800
                                      Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:59 +1100
                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 14:59 -0600
                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:06 -0600
                                Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 09:12 +1100
                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:37 +0000
                                    Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:24 +1100
                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 12:18 -0600
                                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 06:04 +1100
                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:08 +0000
                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:33 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-13 11:25 -0700
                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:47 +1100
                    Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-28 10:58 -0600
                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 09:51 +1100
                        Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-02-29 16:01 +0000
                    Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 04:17 +0000
                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-28 20:38 -0800
                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 16:44 +1100
                          Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:46 +0000
                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-02-29 18:59 +1100
                        Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-29 09:56 +0000
                      Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-28 22:53 -0600
                        Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 05:35 +0000
                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-29 06:44 -0600
                            Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-29 14:02 +0100
                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:51 +1100
                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-29 11:36 -0700
                                  Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 08:58 +1100
                                  Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-01 10:20 +0000
                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-01 06:47 -0700
                                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 10:16 -0800
                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:28 -0800
                                          Re: Qbasic Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 21:03 +0000
                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:23 +1100
                                            Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 18:02 -0600
                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 11:18 +1100
                                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 12:19 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-01 15:14 -0600
                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:24 +1100
                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:53 -0800
                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:13 +1100
                                          Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:15 +0000
                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:38 +1100
                                            Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-09 12:38 -0800
                                              Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-09 19:15 -0600
                                                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 05:06 -0800
                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 09:35 -0600
                                                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-10 07:42 -0800
                                                  Re: Qbasic "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 04:14 +1100
                                              Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-10 15:52 -0600
                                        Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-02 14:19 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 07:23 -0700
                                            Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-02 07:29 -0800
                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 04:04 +1100
                                              Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-02 12:50 -0500
                                                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 11:55 +1100
                                                  Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:37 +1100
                                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 19:40 +0000
                                            Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-03 13:39 +0000
                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 03:34 +1100
                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 11:46 -0700
                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 11:47 -0800
                                                  Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-03 22:07 +0000
                                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
                                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:16 +1100
                                          Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-02 15:54 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 03:44 +1100
                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 16:59 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 15:08 -0600
                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 12:19 -0800
                                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:11 +1100
                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 08:56 +0000
                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:21 +1100
                                      Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 10:57 -0600
                                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 05:56 +1100
                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-03 09:01 +0000
                                        Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 20:37 +1100
                                  Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-01 13:55 +0000
                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 01:28 +1100
                              Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:41 -0800
                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:16 -0600
                                  Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:24 -0800
                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 14:41 -0500
                                      Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:42 +0000
                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:55 -0700
                                          Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:16 +1100
                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:00 -0500
                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 17:12 -0700
                                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 18:44 -0700
                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 21:06 -0700
                                                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 23:13 -0700
                                            Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-22 13:25 +1100
                                            Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-21 23:36 -0500
                                            Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-22 12:56 +0100
                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:11 +0000
                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0500
                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 10:32 -0500
                                              Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 10:06 -0700
                                                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 17:38 +0000
                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:10 -0500
                                                  Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-22 19:41 +0000
                                                Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 05:09 +1100
                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:00 -0700
                                              Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 11:09 +1100
                                            Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-25 08:50 -0400
                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-25 10:00 -0700
                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:34 -0700
                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 12:58 -0700
                              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 14:01 -0600
                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-29 16:07 -0600
                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-29 16:39 -0600
                                  Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 10:49 +1100
                                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 10:41 +1100
                      Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-29 10:26 -0500
                        Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 17:38 +0000
                          Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-29 12:56 -0500
                            Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 18:01 +0000
                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 10:53 -0800
                            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 19:21 +0000
                              Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-02-29 20:19 +0000
                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-29 20:32 +0000
                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-01 16:18 -0600
                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 14:25 -0600
                                      Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-02 16:51 -0600
                                        Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:17 +1100
                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-10 09:48 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 13:29 -0600
                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-10 18:27 -0600
                                              Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-10 20:14 -0600
                                                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-11 11:06 +0000
                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-11 10:09 -0600
                                                    Re: Qbasic Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-03-11 11:21 -0500
                                                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-11 10:28 -0800
                                                        Re: Qbasic Uncle Steve <stevet810@gmail.com> - 2016-03-12 16:12 -0500
                                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-11 19:42 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-10 16:58 -0800
                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 17:35 -0700
                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 00:51 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 18:59 +1100
                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-03 10:48 -0600
                                  Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:52 -0400
                                    Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 18:11 -0700
                                      Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-16 20:52 -0500
                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-29 16:26 -0800
                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 13:52 -0600
                                  Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:10 +1100
                                  Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-01 15:44 -0800
                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-01 13:36 -0600
                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-01 12:55 -0800
                          Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:21 +1100
                          Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-02 08:01 +0000
                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 11:57 -0800
                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-02 15:13 -0800
                                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-02 17:32 -0600
                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 13:36 -0600
                            Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-02 19:44 +0000
                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 12:14 -0800
                              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-02 14:43 -0600
                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-02 18:06 -0800
                                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 10:44 -0600
                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-03 11:23 -0600
                                    Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 15:03 -0600
                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 14:04 -0800
                                        Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-03 16:16 -0800
                                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-11 17:02 -0800
                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-03 17:04 -0700
                                          Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 19:01 -0600
                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 09:47 -0600
                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-04 11:25 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-04 12:32 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:34 -0600
                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-04 12:08 -0700
                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-05 16:02 +1100
                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-04 10:54 -0800
                                          Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-04 20:36 +0000
                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:41 -0600
                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:12 +0000
                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:28 -0600
                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 17:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 14:42 -0600
                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:28 +0000
                                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-07 22:37 -0600
                                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 09:16 -0600
                                                            Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 09:22 -0600
                                                              Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:45 -0400
                                                            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-08 17:28 +0000
                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 10:38 -0700
                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 22:11 -0600
                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 09:10 -0600
                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 10:38 -0700
                                                  Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 13:07 -0500
                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 11:27 -0800
                                                      Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
                                                        Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 16:28 -0500
                                                          Re: Trump vs. Hillary Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 14:05 -0800
                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-07 14:28 -0800
                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 17:37 -0500
                                                              Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 16:10 -0800
                                                                Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 18:00 -0800
                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:07 -0500
                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 20:06 -0800
                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-16 20:39 -0400
                                                          Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 20:23 -0600
                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:17 -0500
                                                              Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-07 20:15 -0800
                                                                Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 08:13 -0600
                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-08 07:24 -0700
                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 08:53 -0600
                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-08 10:58 -0600
                                                                  Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-08 15:34 -0800
                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-09 14:39 +0000
                                                                    Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 10:05 -0600
                                                                      Re: Trump vs. Hillary hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-09 09:41 -0800
                                                                      Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Sam Crean" <sg55443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-10 04:57 +1100
                                                                        Re: Trump vs. Hillary Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-09 21:11 +0000
                                                                          Re: Trump vs. Hillary "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-09 15:23 -0600
                                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-10 17:40 +0000
                                                        Re: Trump vs. Hillary scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:31 +0000
                                                          Re: Trump vs. Hillary Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 18:30 -0700
                                                            Re: Trump vs. Hillary Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-07 22:25 -0500
                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 18:33 +0000
                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 18:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 21:24 +0000
                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-07 12:59 -0600
                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-08 08:44 -0600
                                                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-08 09:19 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-05 15:29 -0600
                                            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-07 14:21 +0000
                                        Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-06 15:45 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-06 17:52 -0800
                                            Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 13:42 +1100
                                            Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-03-07 10:11 -0600
                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-07 13:04 -0600
                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-07 13:35 -0700
                                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-08 10:31 +1100
                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-03 19:28 -0600
                                    Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-04 13:19 +1100
                                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-03 11:04 -0600
                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-02 17:35 -0700
                                Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:20 +1100
                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-16 22:40 -0500
                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 09:44 -0700
                                    Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-16 12:10 -0600
                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-16 19:53 +0000
                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-16 17:01 -0700
                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-17 07:39 -0500
                                        Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-18 12:42 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic "Jim Bank" <jb410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:02 +1100
                                        Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-18 12:45 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 10:52 -0500
                                            Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-19 13:23 +0000
                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-17 07:41 -0500
                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 11:54 -0500
                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 12:55 -0700
                                      Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-18 15:42 -0600
                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 17:54 -0500
                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 17:47 -0700
                                            Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 19:57 -0500
                                              Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-03-18 21:09 -0400
                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-20 12:55 -0500
                                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-20 14:39 -0700
                                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-21 07:53 +0000
                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:00 -0500
                                                  Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-21 20:48 -0400
                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-19 12:56 -0500
                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-19 17:07 -0600
                                            Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-20 03:35 +0000
                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 07:45 -0600
                                                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-20 06:09 -0700
                                                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 09:16 -0600
                                                    Re: Qbasic "John Akers" <ja5443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 04:41 +1100
                                                      Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 13:21 -0600
                                                        Re: Qbasic "John Akers" <ja5443@gmail.com> - 2016-03-21 08:09 +1100
                                                        Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 16:37 -0500
                                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 13:17 +0000
                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 17:02 -0500
                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 18:04 -0600
                                                Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-21 15:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-21 11:24 -0600
                                                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 16:51 +0000
                                                      Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-21 17:43 +0000
                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 12:55 -0500
                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:03 -0700
                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 16:26 -0500
                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 07:00 -0700
                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:56 -0700
                                                  Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 10:56 -0700
                                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-21 11:14 -0700
                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:07 -0700
                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-22 17:08 -0700
                                                          Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-23 10:08 -0700
                                                      Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-13 07:57 -0700
                                                    Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-21 19:45 +0000
                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:13 +0000
                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:27 -0700
                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:31 -0700
                                                            Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 08:31 -0700
                                                  Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-21 20:17 +0100
                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 12:42 -0500
                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:33 -0700
                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:58 -0600
                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 16:28 -0500
                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-19 13:12 -0500
                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 16:48 -0700
                                          Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-03-20 00:37 +0000
                                          Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-20 12:57 -0500
                                            Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 13:05 -0600
                                            Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-20 12:43 -0600
                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-20 14:04 -0600
                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 19:06 -0700
                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:04 -0500
                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-20 16:52 -0500
                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-20 19:06 -0700
                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 12:06 -0500
                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
                                                  Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-21 19:03 -0500
                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 12:04 -0500
                                                    Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 12:17 -0600
                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-22 12:40 -0500
                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 17:43 +0000
                                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 12:55 -0600
                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-22 11:20 -0700
                                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 14:00 -0600
                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 14:32 -0500
                                                              Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:53 +1100
                                                              Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:03 -0600
                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 19:34 -0500
                                                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-22 17:57 -0700
                                                              Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 21:47 +0000
                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-23 18:34 -0500
                                                                  Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 14:39 +1100
                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 07:00 -0700
                                                            Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-23 09:40 -0500
                                                              Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-23 16:26 +0000
                                                                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-23 17:36 +0000
                                                                  Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-23 18:08 +0000
                                                                  Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:30 +1100
                                                            Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-23 15:16 -0500
                                                              Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 07:51 +1100
                                                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-24 01:14 +0100
                                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-23 22:36 -0500
                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-23 19:02 -0700
                                                                Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-24 14:29 +1100
                                                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-24 13:03 +0000
                                                                  Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-25 12:57 +0000
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-25 09:22 -0500
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:03 +1100
                                                                      Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-26 13:24 +0000
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:14 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 12:00 -0700
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 07:55 +0100
                                                                            Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-29 13:55 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last,name.invalid> - 2016-03-29 17:12 +0200
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:17 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 05:43 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 05:39 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 17:26 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 09:56 +0100
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:29 +1100
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:01 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-30 23:06 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:14 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:08 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 15:04 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-31 11:17 -0500
                                                                                Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 05:37 +1100
                                                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 15:54 +0000
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-29 09:17 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 17:59 +0100
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:08 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:17 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-30 11:01 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-30 15:13 -0600
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:14 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 15:53 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 20:02 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic pechter@cobalt.pechter.dyndns.org (William Pechter) - 2016-04-01 16:02 +0000
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-01 12:27 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:52 -0500
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-29 14:05 -0500
                                                                                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 20:26 +0000
                                                                                Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 09:41 +1100
                                                                                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:15 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 15:17 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:07 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:22 +1100
                                                                                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 16:05 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:45 +1100
                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:06 -0500
                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:22 -0500
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-29 22:04 -0700
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-30 17:29 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:19 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 19:52 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-02 13:12 -0700
                                                                                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 15:16 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 03:58 +1100
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 19:51 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:13 +1100
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 09:15 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 21:19 +1100
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-31 11:23 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:38 +1100
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-31 12:33 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-31 12:16 +0200
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:00 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-31 12:41 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-31 13:10 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-31 11:27 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:39 +1100
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:55 -0500
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:11 +1100
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:20 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-03-30 11:48 -0600
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 15:56 -0500
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 08:11 +1100
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-03-31 16:41 -0400
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 07:10 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-30 16:27 -0500
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-29 17:14 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 17:45 +0000
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-29 23:20 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-03-31 11:19 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 19:58 +0000
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-02 13:24 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-03 08:39 +0000
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 13:47 +0200
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:48 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 12:00 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 14:49 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 18:38 -0500
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-09 18:23 +0200
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 14:49 -0400
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 20:50 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 04:03 +1000
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:45 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 14:45 -0500
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:34 -0700
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-05 13:10 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-05 10:16 -0500
                                                                    Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:05 +1100
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-25 12:15 -0600
                                                                    Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-26 11:43 +0000
                                                                    Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-26 12:43 -0500
                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:55 -0700
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 12:24 -0700
                                                                          Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:31 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:24 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-28 15:53 -0600
                                                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 21:24 +0000
                                                                  Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-25 22:48 +0000
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-26 07:04 +0000
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:18 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-26 17:59 +0000
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-26 19:50 +0000
                                                                            Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-26 20:22 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 04:34 -0300
                                                                                Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-27 09:18 +0000
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-27 17:45 +0000
                                                                            Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-27 13:28 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 04:21 +1100
                                                                    Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-26 13:24 +0000
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-27 04:17 +1100
                                                                      Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-26 12:47 -0500
                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:50 -0700
                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:48 -0700
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 07:29 +0100
                                                                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 09:41 -0500
                                                                  Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-24 09:52 -0600
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 10:18 -0500
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-24 10:39 -0600
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 09:21 -0700
                                                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 10:37 -0700
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 11:04 -0700
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-24 14:19 -0700
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-11 23:00 -0700
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 13:25 -0500
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 07:15 +1100
                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:35 -0700
                                                                    Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 05:26 +1100
                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:20 -0700
                                                                    Re: Qbasic greymaus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-03-25 12:17 +0000
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-26 04:09 +1100
                                                                  Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-24 13:12 -0700
                                                                  Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 04:43 -0300
                                                                    Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-27 13:26 +0000
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 04:45 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-27 13:02 -0500
                                                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-27 19:11 +0000
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-27 15:25 -0700
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-27 15:40 -0700
                                                                            Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-27 17:40 -0500
                                                                              Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 11:10 +1100
                                                                            Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 11:08 +1100
                                                                            Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 09:39 +0000
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 11:15 -0700
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 12:02 -0700
                                                                          Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 07:32 +1100
                                                                          Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-27 17:48 -0500
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-27 15:53 -0700
                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-28 13:29 -0500
                                                                                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 12:50 -0700
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:34 +1100
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 21:12 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 13:11 +0000
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-03-29 14:47 +0100
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-29 15:49 +0000
                                                                                  Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-29 17:15 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:17 -0700
                                                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-30 12:22 -0500
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-31 09:40 -0400
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-01 05:25 +1100
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 20:08 +0000
                                                                                            Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-31 20:57 -0500
                                                                                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-01 07:39 +0000
                                                                                                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-01 09:14 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-01 13:51 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-02 06:23 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-02 08:33 +0000
                                                                                        Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 12:27 -0400
                                                                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 20:54 +0000
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 17:45 -0700
                                                                              Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-28 13:30 -0500
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 13:12 -0700
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-03-27 18:31 -0300
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-27 16:32 -0700
                                                                      Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-28 09:30 +0000
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 04:17 +1100
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 04:57 -0700
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-28 12:50 -0700
                                                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-29 04:30 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 10:55 -0400
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-04 11:01 -0700
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-04 19:43 +0100
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-04 23:31 +0200
                                                                            Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-04 17:15 -0500
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-05 00:42 +0200
                                                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:41 -0700
                                                                        Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-29 07:20 +1100
                                                                        Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-28 14:56 -0700
                                                                    Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-28 11:30 -0700
                                                                      Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-03-28 12:20 -0700
                                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-29 17:11 -0700
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-29 20:33 -0500
                                                                            Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 10:18 +0000
                                                                            Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
                                                                              Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-30 16:07 +0000
                                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 06:15 -0700
                                                                            Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-30 15:14 +0000
                                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 09:15 -0700
                                                              Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-03-23 19:58 -0700
                                                        Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 06:45 +1100
                                                          Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-03-22 15:07 -0600
                                                            Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 07:20 +1100
                                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-22 13:24 -0500
                                                        Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-03-22 19:50 +0000
                                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-23 11:05 +0000
                                                            Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-23 09:41 -0500
                                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:12 -0700
                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 06:30 -0700
                                                            Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 10:07 -0500
                                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-24 10:37 -0700
                                                                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-24 14:03 -0500
                                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-24 14:46 -0500
                                                                    Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-24 16:59 -0500
                                              Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-21 13:59 -0500
                                                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 14:23 -0700
                                                  Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-25 13:57 -0500
                                              Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-22 13:54 -0700
                                        Re: Qbasic Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-03-21 17:46 -0400
                                          Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-22 11:31 +0000
                                            Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-22 13:15 +0100
                                            Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-23 04:48 +1100
                                  Re: Qbasic "Jim Bank" <jb410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 07:37 +1100
                                    Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-16 18:55 -0700
                                      Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-16 21:04 -0500
                                      Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-17 13:48 +1100
                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 00:49 -0700
                                          Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-03-17 09:28 +0100
                                          Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-03-17 10:45 -0500
                                          Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-18 08:16 +1100
                                      Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-17 12:58 +0000
                                        Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-17 06:55 -0700
                                          Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 13:08 -0700
                                            Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:22 +1100
                                            Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-03-18 18:12 -0500
                                              Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-18 17:47 -0700
                                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-18 20:00 -0500
                                                  Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-19 07:28 -0700
                                                    Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-21 13:50 +0000
                                                      Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-21 13:51 -0700
                                                        Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 13:12 +0000
                                                          Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-22 07:27 -0700
                                                            Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-03-22 17:35 +0000
                                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-22 17:44 +0000
                                                            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-23 17:07 -0700
                                                              Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-03-24 13:05 +0000
                                        Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 13:04 -0700
                                          Re: Qbasic "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> - 2016-03-19 09:21 +1100
                                      Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-03-18 12:59 -0700
                                Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-03-16 23:00 -0500
                              Re: Qbasic "Sangmo" <ju410@gmail.com> - 2016-03-03 12:10 +1100
                        Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-02 10:07 +1100
                        Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-03-04 21:45 -0800
                          Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-03-05 10:50 +0000
                            Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-03-06 13:52 -0800
                    Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-02-29 09:04 +0000
                      Re: Qbasic "Alexis" <ggyy@gmail.com> - 2016-03-01 04:32 +1100
              Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-28 10:39 -0600
            Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-26 11:59 -0500
            Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-27 10:17 -0800

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#161767

FromJimP. <blue@cwahi.net>
Date2016-03-31 20:57 -0500
Message-ID<kalrfb1q4cno0as26gge72c73o7k6ovm1j@4ax.com>
In reply to#161719
On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:40:21 -0400, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> wrote:
>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:15:33 -0700, Peter Flass
>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> <hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday, March 29, 2016 at 6:16:21 PM UTC-4, JimP. wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I was watching a documentary on the early European explorers arriving
>>>>> in what is now Virginia. When they walked into the village, the women
>>>>> didn't cover themselves. It was hot. So the explorers decided this
>>>>> meant they didn't know about original sin, and therefore it was okay
>>>>> to steal from them and kill them.
>>>> 
>>>> I can't help but suspect it was more of a case where the early
>>>> Europeans were looking for some excuse (rationalization) to take
>>>> the Indians' land and otherwise exploit them.  The South made
>>>> similar excuses about how they treated blacks--that the South
>>>> was actually taking care of them, not exploiting them.
>>>> 
>>>> Of course, there were some religious zealots who were part of the
>>>> Europeans, and they likely wanted to impose their particular form
>>>> of religion on the 'heathens'.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Most did.  Despite the terrible things the Spanish did that was one of
>>> their goals, and some missionaries were actually interested in improving
>>> the welfare of the natives.  Although Christians did horrific stuff in
>>> those days, but nothing compared with the Aztecs human sacrifices, so on
>>> balance their conversion would seem to be a good thing.
>>> 
>>> The French and the Dutch used their competing versions of Christianity as a
>>> political weapon with the Iroquois against one another.  It seems, however,
>>> that in general the Iroquois' argument was also political - they killed
>>> French Catholic missionaries, but welcomed, or at least accepted, the Dutch
>>> Protestants mostly because of hostility toward the French.
>>> 
>>> At this late date it's hard for me to understand the focus on religion in
>>> those days, although it's easier when looked at as a form of politics.
>> 
>> Back then, particularly for England and Spain, religion was the State.
>> 
>
>I still don't get it, although it becomes clearer when I compare being
>Catholic in Elizabethan England to being Communist in the US in the 50s. 
>The problem is that you are, or appear to be, the agent of a hostile
>foreign power.

In the 1600s, probably later and earlier as well, there were countries
whose major religion was also how the state was run. Spain and
Catholicism being one big example.

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#161771

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-04-01 07:39 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnfs9d9.18p.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#161767
On 2016-04-01, JimP <blue@cwahi.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Mar 2016 09:40:21 -0400, Peter Flass
><peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 30 Mar 2016 06:15:33 -0700, Peter Flass
>>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Back then, particularly for England and Spain, religion was the State.
>>> 
>>
>>I still don't get it, although it becomes clearer when I compare being
>>Catholic in Elizabethan England to being Communist in the US in the 50s. 
>>The problem is that you are, or appear to be, the agent of a hostile
>>foreign power.
>
> In the 1600s, probably later and earlier as well, there were countries
> whose major religion was also how the state was run. Spain and
> Catholicism being one big example.

Ancient rome had problems with Christians for similiar reasons, the
 Christians formed a state within a state, with their own `welfare'
organizations. For most of history, the dominent religions were a
butress of the state. Probaly, Freemasonry among the US founding
fathers led to the idea of seperation of church aand state


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#161772

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2016-04-01 09:14 +0100
Message-ID<20160401091420.607363e68b9757032eef546d@eircom.net>
In reply to#161771
On 1 Apr 2016 07:39:40 GMT
mausg@mail.com wrote:

> Probaly, Freemasonry among the US founding
> fathers led to the idea of seperation of church aand state

	A good thing about Freemasonry at last.

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#161782

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-04-01 13:51 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnfsv5t.220.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#161772
On 2016-04-01, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2016 07:39:40 GMT
> mausg@mail.com wrote:
>
>> Probaly, Freemasonry among the US founding
>> fathers led to the idea of seperation of church aand state
>
> 	A good thing about Freemasonry at last.
>

Ever been to Molesworth St.?


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#161812

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2016-04-02 06:23 +0100
Message-ID<20160402062345.c379b8d084a6e74c14a128eb@eircom.net>
In reply to#161782
On 1 Apr 2016 13:51:13 GMT
mausg@mail.com wrote:

> On 2016-04-01, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> > On 1 Apr 2016 07:39:40 GMT
> > mausg@mail.com wrote:
> >
> >> Probaly, Freemasonry among the US founding
> >> fathers led to the idea of seperation of church aand state
> >
> > 	A good thing about Freemasonry at last.
> >
> 
> Ever been to Molesworth St.?

	No, what's there ?

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The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
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#161817

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-04-02 08:33 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnfv0tp.18v.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#161812
On 2016-04-02, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On 1 Apr 2016 13:51:13 GMT
> mausg@mail.com wrote:
>
>> On 2016-04-01, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>> > On 1 Apr 2016 07:39:40 GMT
>> > mausg@mail.com wrote:
>> >
>> >> Probaly, Freemasonry among the US founding
>> >> fathers led to the idea of seperation of church aand state
>> >
>> > 	A good thing about Freemasonry at last.
>> >
>> 
>> Ever been to Molesworth St.?
>
> 	No, what's there ?
>

Freemasons Hall. (I used to do some business with a nearby place)


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#162017

FromWalter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
Date2016-04-04 12:27 -0400
Message-ID<proto-0DB30B.12271804042016@news.panix.com>
In reply to#161631
In article 
<100183347.481035524.548399.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september
.org>,
 Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Most did.  Despite the terrible things the Spanish did that was one of
> their goals, and some missionaries were actually interested in improving
> the welfare of the natives.  Although Christians did horrific stuff in
> those days, but nothing compared with the Aztecs human sacrifices, so on
> balance their conversion would seem to be a good thing.

Actually the European's killed more people for religious reasons than the
Aztecs. Inquisition et al.. And it was much better to fall into Aztec 
hands than the Inquisition, which tortured people without mercy. The 
Aztecs fattened up their captives pending sacrifice.

-- 
 To terrify children with the image of hell,
 to consider women an inferior creation is that good for the world?  
  Christopher Hitchens

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#162041

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-04-04 20:54 +0000
Message-ID<slrnng5l3q.18v.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#162017
On 2016-04-04, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote:
> In article 
><100183347.481035524.548399.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september
> .org>,
>  Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> Most did.  Despite the terrible things the Spanish did that was one of
>> their goals, and some missionaries were actually interested in improving
>> the welfare of the natives.  Although Christians did horrific stuff in
>> those days, but nothing compared with the Aztecs human sacrifices, so on
>> balance their conversion would seem to be a good thing.
>
> Actually the European's killed more people for religious reasons than the
> Aztecs. Inquisition et al.. And it was much better to fall into Aztec 
> hands than the Inquisition, which tortured people without mercy. The 
> Aztecs fattened up their captives pending sacrifice.
>

The Spaniards were horrified by the resemblance of the Aztec culture
to Christianity. (Christians eat their god, right?).. Thats why most 
of the Native American religious books were burnt, except for a few 
that were saved, and now tell us how advanced their knowledge of natural
forces.


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#161535

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-03-27 17:45 -0700
Message-ID<87zitj4ehn.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#161530
JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> writes:
> Some of my ancestors.
>
> They came late to the show. Many were formerly Shoshoni who migrated
> southwards and took over vast regions of the Southwest. They forced
> the Lipan Apache out of what isn ow the Texas panhandle, particularly
> the Palo Duro Canyon. That canyon is where their horse herds were
> killed along with many women and children. Many died of starvation.
>
> The book you could read is The 'Empire of the Summer Moon'. Doesn't
> mince details.
>
> Quannah Parker rented tribal lands to white cattlemen in the late
> 1800s. I don't know if the tribe benefitted, but he did. The Comanche
> were subjected to the Carlyle Schools like many others. Beaten if they
> tried to keep their customs and language, just like the other Native
> Americans.
>
> In the 20th Century the Comanche bands became the Comance Nation.

re:
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#14 1970--protesters seize computer center
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#44 Qbasic
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#45 Qbasic

The Rise And Fall Of The Comanche 'Empire'
http://www.npr.org/2011/05/20/136438816/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-comanche-empire

Comanche History
http://www.tolatsga.org/ComancheOne.html

split off from Eastern Shoshone
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Shoshone

The Comanche Empire loc2364-66:

Once a single people, Shoshones and Comanches had split in the late
seventeenth century, when the former left the central plains and headed
north and the latter moved toward the south. By i8oo, however, Shoshones
had pulled back from the northern plains under the pressure from
well-armed Blackfeet and Crows and crossed the Continental Divide to the
mountain ranges of Montana and Wyoming.

... snip ... 

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#161543

FromJimP. <blue@cwahi.net>
Date2016-03-28 13:30 -0500
Message-ID<t0uifbp28i7nb7g6s8nhug1e7gbali8gqf@4ax.com>
In reply to#161535
On Sun, 27 Mar 2016 17:45:24 -0700, Anne & Lynn Wheeler
<lynn@garlic.com> wrote:
>JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> writes:
>> Some of my ancestors.
>>
>> They came late to the show. Many were formerly Shoshoni who migrated
>> southwards and took over vast regions of the Southwest. They forced
>> the Lipan Apache out of what isn ow the Texas panhandle, particularly
>> the Palo Duro Canyon. That canyon is where their horse herds were
>> killed along with many women and children. Many died of starvation.
>>
>> The book you could read is The 'Empire of the Summer Moon'. Doesn't
>> mince details.
>>
>> Quannah Parker rented tribal lands to white cattlemen in the late
>> 1800s. I don't know if the tribe benefitted, but he did. The Comanche
>> were subjected to the Carlyle Schools like many others. Beaten if they
>> tried to keep their customs and language, just like the other Native
>> Americans.
>>
>> In the 20th Century the Comanche bands became the Comance Nation.
>
>re:
>http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#14 1970--protesters seize computer center
>http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#44 Qbasic
>http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#45 Qbasic
>
>The Rise And Fall Of The Comanche 'Empire'
>http://www.npr.org/2011/05/20/136438816/the-rise-and-fall-of-the-comanche-empire
>
>Comanche History
>http://www.tolatsga.org/ComancheOne.html
>
>split off from Eastern Shoshone
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Shoshone
>
>The Comanche Empire loc2364-66:
>
>Once a single people, Shoshones and Comanches had split in the late
>seventeenth century, when the former left the central plains and headed
>north and the latter moved toward the south. By i8oo, however, Shoshones
>had pulled back from the northern plains under the pressure from
>well-armed Blackfeet and Crows and crossed the Continental Divide to the
>mountain ranges of Montana and Wyoming.
>
>... snip ... 

The Uto-Aztecian Language Group has 3 Peoples in it. Aztec, Comanche,
and Shoshone.

And it was definately an Empire.

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#161524

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-03-27 13:12 -0700
Message-ID<878u1365oh.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#161510
Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
> Actually, there's a pretty good case that the guys who put the
> US Constitution together essentially hijacked the Declaration of
> Independence.  The rights (inter alia) declared "self-evident" in the
> latter were far too liberal, failing, as they did, to give primacy to
> property.  The Constitution fixed that for (white) men of property at
> the expense of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".
>
> I'd have to dig for the serious academic references in my dead-tree
> library but I didn't just make that idea up on my own.  Google might
> help.

that was part of Fiske's argument (history lectures from the late 80s,
set of Fiske's books were awarded to my wife's father for some
distinction at west point).

also 

Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to
1920 (Richard Franklin, 1848-1926 Pettigrew) ... lots of formats, all
free
https://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich
Amazon kindle version currently 99cents
http://www.amazon.com/Triumphant-plutocracy-story-American-public-ebook/dp/B00LPVCVNW/

loc2079-83:

Anyone who wishes to know the facts should examine the Journal of the
Constitutional Convention. There the record is as plain as the road at
noonday. The Constitution was not drawn up to safeguard liberty. Its
framers had property rights in their minds' eye and property deeds in
their pock ets, and its most enthusiastic supporters were the leading
bankers, manufacturers and traders of the Federated States. The
Constitution was made to protect the rights of property and not the
rights of man.

loc2086-92:

The convention that framed the Constitution of the United States
convened at Philadelphia in 1787 behind closed doors. All of the
delegates were sworn to secrecy. Madison reported the proceedings of the
convention in longhand and his notes were purchased in 1837 by Congress
and published by the Government nearly half a century after the
convention had finished its work. These notes disclose the forces that
dominated the work of the convention and show that the object which the
leaders of the convention had in view was not to create a democracy or a
government of the people, but to establish a government by the property
classes in the interests of the rights of property rather than the
rights of man. All through the debates ran one theme: How to secure a
government, not by the people and for the people, but by the classes and
for the classes, with the lawyers in control.

loc6501-11:

Two per cent of the people of the United States own sixty per cent of
the property of the United States. Yet they produced none of it. By
legislation, by craft and cunning, by control of Congress and the
courts, they took to themselves what others produced. Sixty-six per cent
of the people of the United States own five per cent of the property of
the United States. Yet they produced all of the wealth and have none of
it. Why do not the producers of this wealth have what they pro duce ?
Because the making of the laws and the control of the courts is in the
hands of those who do not work, and this has been true from the
beginning of the Gov ernment. The convention which framed the Constitu
tion of the United States was composed of fifty-five members. A majority
were lawyers—not one farmer, mechanic or laborer. Forty owned
Revolutionary Scrip. Fourteen were land speculators. Twenty-four were
money-lenders. Eleven were merchants. Fifteen were slave-holders. They
made a Constitution to protect the rights of property and not the rights
of man, and, ever since, Congress has been controlled by the property
owner, and has framed laws in their interests and their interests only,
and always refused to frame any laws in the interest of those who
produce all the wealth and have none of it.


... snip ... 

recent "bill of rights" drafted, in part to get whole thing ratified.
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#37 Qbasic

related inequality posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#inequality

(other) past posts mentioning Fiske:
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011p.html#31 21st Century Management approach?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012c.html#22 You can't do the math without the words
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#2 Did they apply Boyd's concepts?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012f.html#84 How do you feel about the fact that India has more employees than US?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012h.html#15 Imbecilic Constitution
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#85 Naked emperors, holy cows and Libor
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012k.html#7 Is there a connection between your strategic and tactical assertions?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012l.html#13 Cultural attitudes towards failure
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012o.html#71 Is orientation always because what has been observed? What are your 'direct' experiences?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#21 What Makes weapons control Bizarre?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013n.html#75 'Free Unix!': The world-changing proclamation made30yearsagotoday
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#9 NSA seeks to build quantum computer that could crack most types of encryption
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#62 Future of support for telephone rotary dial ?

(other) past posts mentioning Triumphant plutocracy:
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#15 Search Google, 1960:s-style
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#26 Cultural attitudes towards failure
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#46 The China Threat: The MICC Pivots Obama Back to the Future
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013.html#57 How to Cut Megabanks Down to Size
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#54 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#82 What Makes Economic History Bizarre?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013d.html#98 What Makes an Architecture Bizarre?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#20 What Makes weapons control Bizarre?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013i.html#78 Has the US Lost Its Grand Strategic Mind?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013m.html#80 The REAL Reason U.S. Targets Whistleblowers
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#40 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#20 Royal Pardon For Turing
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#38 Can America Win Wars
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#6 Before the Internet: The golden age of online services
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#93 Oligarchy Controls U.S. War-Making
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#37 Married Couples and the Financial Mess
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#84 Support Senator Warren's Postal Banking Proposal
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#39 Sale receipt--obligatory?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#55 US Entering New Era of Dirty Wars?
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014j.html#104 No Internet. No Microsoft Windows. No iPods. This Is What Tech Was Like In 1984
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#64 LEO
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#29 the previous century, was channel islands, definitely not the location of LEO
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#39 Failure as a Way of Life; The logic of lost wars and military-industrial boondoggles


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#161526

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2016-03-27 18:31 -0300
Message-ID<871t6vtxoc.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#161524
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:

> Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
>
>> Actually, there's a pretty good case that the guys who put the
>> US Constitution together essentially hijacked the Declaration of
>> Independence.  The rights (inter alia) declared "self-evident" in the
>> latter were far too liberal, failing, as they did, to give primacy to
>> property.  The Constitution fixed that for (white) men of property at
>> the expense of "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness".
>>
>> I'd have to dig for the serious academic references in my dead-tree
>> library but I didn't just make that idea up on my own.  Google might
>> help.
> 
> that was part of Fiske's argument (history lectures from the late 80s,
> set of Fiske's books were awarded to my wife's father for some
> distinction at west point).
> 
> also 
> 
> Triumphant plutocracy; the story of American public life from 1870 to
> 1920 (Richard Franklin, 1848-1926 Pettigrew) ... lots of formats, all
> free
> https://archive.org/details/triumphantpluto00pettrich
> Amazon kindle version currently 99cents
> http://www.amazon.com/Triumphant-plutocracy-story-American-public-ebook/dp/B00LPVCVNW/


Private Property and the Limits of American Constitutionalism -- The
Madisonian Framework and Its Legacy.

Jennifer Nedelsky, Univ. Chicago, 1990

Thanks for the other quotes and references.


> loc2079-83:

Is that a Library of Congress reference of some kind?  How do I
interpret or access it?

> 
> loc6501-11:
> 
> Two per cent of the people of the United States own sixty per cent of
> the property of the United States. Yet they produced none of it. By
> legislation, by craft and cunning, by control of Congress and the
> courts, they took to themselves what others produced. Sixty-six per cent
> of the people of the United States own five per cent of the property of
> the United States. Yet they produced all of the wealth and have none of
> it. Why do not the producers of this wealth have what they pro duce ?
> Because the making of the laws and the control of the courts is in the
> hands of those who do not work, and this has been true from the
> beginning of the Gov ernment. The convention which framed the Constitu
> tion of the United States was composed of fifty-five members. A majority
> were lawyers -- not one farmer, mechanic or laborer. Forty owned
> Revolutionary Scrip. Fourteen were land speculators. Twenty-four were
> money-lenders. Eleven were merchants. Fifteen were slave-holders. They
> made a Constitution to protect the rights of property and not the rights
> of man, and, ever since, Congress has been controlled by the property
> owner, and has framed laws in their interests and their interests only,
> and always refused to frame any laws in the interest of those who
> produce all the wealth and have none of it.
> 
> 
> ... snip ... 

[more snip]

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#161532

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-03-27 16:32 -0700
Message-ID<874mbr5wg7.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#161526
Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
> Is that a Library of Congress reference of some kind?  How do I
> interpret or access it?

kindle ebook location reference ... from preceeding URL ... does
reference "Journal of the Constitution Convention" ... google
search does turn up library of congress reference
https://memory.loc.gov/ammem/amlaw/lwfr.html
and (277 documents)
https://www.loc.gov/collections/continental-congress-and-constitutional-convention-from-1774-to-1789/about-this-collection/

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#161536

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-03-28 09:30 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnfhqtp.190.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#161524
On 2016-03-27, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:
> Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
>> Actually, there's a pretty good case that the guys who put the
> Two per cent of the people of the United States own sixty per cent of
> the property of the United States. Yet they produced none of it. By
> legislation, by craft and cunning, by control of Congress and the
> courts, they took to themselves what others produced. Sixty-six per cent
> of the people of the United States own five per cent of the property of
> the United States. Yet they produced all of the wealth and have none of
> it. Why do not the producers of this wealth have what they pro duce ?
> Because the making of the laws and the control of the courts is in the
> hands of those who do not work, and this has been true from the
> beginning of the Gov ernment. The convention which framed the Constitu
> tion of the United States was composed of fifty-five members. A majority
> were lawyers???not one farmer, mechanic or laborer. Forty owned
> Revolutionary Scrip. Fourteen were land speculators. Twenty-four were
> money-lenders. Eleven were merchants. Fifteen were slave-holders. They
> made a Constitution to protect the rights of property and not the rights
> of man, and, ever since, Congress has been controlled by the property
> owner, and has framed laws in their interests and their interests only,
> and always refused to frame any laws in the interest of those who
> produce all the wealth and have none of it.
>
>
> ... snip ... 

Against that, one could  say, "T'is ever so.", Every country is controlled
by those with a big stake in it (Russia more so, since the emergence of
the oligarch class, but Putin seems to be bringing some sort of control over 
them). Marx's old dialectical materialism would have it that societies change
by thesis being challenged by antithesis, leading to new situation. The rapid
rate of social change since computers started to really impinge on society,
(Say, Windows 95) mean that there is a huge advantage to those who can `ride
the wave' of change, leading to Gates, Zuckerberg, the Google boys , having
a lot of power, and those who knew there was a future in computers but wern't 
sure how, losing their money, and power.

-- 
greymaus
 .
  .
...

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#161539

From"hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-29 04:17 +1100
Message-ID<dlt792F54vrU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#161536

<mausg@mail.com> wrote in message news:slrnnfhqtp.190.mausg@Smaus.org...
> On 2016-03-27, Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:
>> Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
>>> Actually, there's a pretty good case that the guys who put the
>> Two per cent of the people of the United States own sixty per cent of
>> the property of the United States. Yet they produced none of it. By
>> legislation, by craft and cunning, by control of Congress and the
>> courts, they took to themselves what others produced. Sixty-six per cent
>> of the people of the United States own five per cent of the property of
>> the United States. Yet they produced all of the wealth and have none of
>> it. Why do not the producers of this wealth have what they pro duce ?
>> Because the making of the laws and the control of the courts is in the
>> hands of those who do not work, and this has been true from the
>> beginning of the Gov ernment. The convention which framed the Constitu
>> tion of the United States was composed of fifty-five members. A majority
>> were lawyers???not one farmer, mechanic or laborer. Forty owned
>> Revolutionary Scrip. Fourteen were land speculators. Twenty-four were
>> money-lenders. Eleven were merchants. Fifteen were slave-holders. They
>> made a Constitution to protect the rights of property and not the rights
>> of man, and, ever since, Congress has been controlled by the property
>> owner, and has framed laws in their interests and their interests only,
>> and always refused to frame any laws in the interest of those who
>> produce all the wealth and have none of it.
>>
>>
>> ... snip ...
>
> Against that, one could  say, "T'is ever so.", Every country is controlled
> by those with a big stake in it (Russia more so, since the emergence of
> the oligarch class, but Putin seems to be bringing some sort of control 
> over
> them). Marx's old dialectical materialism would have it that societies 
> change
> by thesis being challenged by antithesis, leading to new situation. The 
> rapid
> rate of social change since computers started to really impinge on 
> society,
> (Say, Windows 95) mean that there is a huge advantage to those who can 
> `ride
> the wave' of change, leading to Gates, Zuckerberg, the Google boys , 
> having
> a lot of power,

They don’t actually have a lot of power.

> and those who knew there was a future in computers
> but wern't sure how, losing their money, and power.

They never had much power either. 

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#161538

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2016-03-28 04:57 -0700
Message-ID<ec536151-43c1-405c-aeda-2bc51ca76c10@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#161524
On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 2:12:50 PM UTC-6, Anne & Lynn Wheeler quoted, in part:
> The convention which framed the Constitu
> tion of the United States was composed of fifty-five members. A majority
> were lawyers--not one farmer, mechanic or laborer.

Not one farmer, blacksmith, or laborer I could believe.

It's not like you would see a 1794 Chevy even at an antique car convention. Of course, there are other kinds of mechanic besides automobile mechanics...

Ah. The first modern steam engine (excluding the ancient Greek aleolipile) was 
by Thomas Savery in 1698, Newcomen's more practical engine for pumping water 
out of mines was in 1712, and by 1776, James Watt's steam engine was in active 
use.

So the reference to the profession of "mechanic" is not so anachronous as I had 
at first thought. Of course, they already had _millwrights_ at that time - or 
machinists as we call them today.

John Savard

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#161551

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-03-28 12:50 -0700
Message-ID<411889118.480886999.701586.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#161538
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Sunday, March 27, 2016 at 2:12:50 PM UTC-6, Anne & Lynn Wheeler quoted, in part:
>> The convention which framed the Constitu
>> tion of the United States was composed of fifty-five members. A majority
>> were lawyers--not one farmer, mechanic or laborer.
> 
> Not one farmer, blacksmith, or laborer I could believe.
> 
> It's not like you would see a 1794 Chevy even at an antique car
> convention. Of course, there are other kinds of mechanic besides automobile mechanics...
> 
> Ah. The first modern steam engine (excluding the ancient Greek aleolipile) was 
> by Thomas Savery in 1698, Newcomen's more practical engine for pumping water 
> out of mines was in 1712, and by 1776, James Watt's steam engine was in active 
> use.
> 
> So the reference to the profession of "mechanic" is not so anachronous as I had 
> at first thought. Of course, they already had _millwrights_ at that time - or 
> machinists as we call them today.
> 

Or "mechanicians".

> John Savard
> 



-- 
Pete

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#161540

From"hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com>
Date2016-03-29 04:30 +1100
Message-ID<dlt81qF5bgsU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#161524

"Anne & Lynn Wheeler" <lynn@garlic.com> wrote in message 
news:878u1365oh.fsf@garlic.com...

> Two per cent of the people of the United States own sixty per cent
> of the property of the United States. Yet they produced none of it.

That last is very arguable indeed with the likes of Gates, Zuckerberg, Brin, 
Murdoch etc.

> By legislation, by craft and cunning, by control of Congress and the
> courts, they took to themselves what others produced. Sixty-six per
> cent of the people of the United States own five per cent of the
> property of the United States. Yet they produced all of the wealth

No they did not. It was the ideas Zuckerberg, Brin etc that did much of 
that.

> and have none of it.

Even the likes of Barb have some of it.

> Why do not the producers of this wealth have what they produce ?

Plenty of them do, like Gates, Zuckerberg, Brin etc.

> Because the making of the laws and the control of the courts is in the
> hands of those who do not work, and this has been true from the
> beginning of the Government.

But is no longer true in the great democracies.

> The convention which framed the Constitution of the United States
> was composed of fifty-five members. A majority were lawyers—not
> one farmer, mechanic or laborer.

Sure, but they did deliver for plenty of farmers, mechanics and laborers 
anyway

> Forty owned Revolutionary Scrip. Fourteen were land speculators.
> Twenty-four were money-lenders. Eleven were merchants. Fifteen
> were slave-holders.

And plenty of those were in fact wealth producers.

> They made a Constitution to protect the rights of property

Yes.

> and not the rights of man,

That is just plain wrong with the right to free speech, freedom
of religion, right to bare arms, freedom from repression by the
state etc.

> and, ever since, Congress has been controlled by the property owner,

By the voters who bother to vote.

> and has framed laws in their interests

Yes.

> and their interests only,

No. If that was the case the bottom HALF of the
US wouldn’t be pay no net federal income tax.

> and always refused to frame any laws in the interest of
> those who produce all the wealth and have none of it.

That is a lie with the minimum wage and anti discrimination
law and anti trust law alone. And there are plenty of others too. 

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#161998

FromWalter Bushell <proto@panix.com>
Date2016-04-04 10:55 -0400
Message-ID<proto-4E098D.10552404042016@news.panix.com>
In reply to#161540
In article <dlt81qF5bgsU1@mid.individual.net>,
 "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> wrote:

> That is just plain wrong with the right to free speech, freedom
> of religion, right to bare arms, freedom from repression by the
> state etc.

Everyone has the right to bare arms. Women in NYC have the right to bare 
breasts.

-- 
 To terrify children with the image of hell,
 to consider women an inferior creation is that good for the world?  
  Christopher Hitchens

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#162025

FromQuadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca>
Date2016-04-04 11:01 -0700
Message-ID<9c755c33-b991-4828-9938-96a99944d828@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#161998
On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 8:55:23 AM UTC-6, Walter Bushell wrote:
> In article <dlt81qF5bgsU1@mid.individual.net>,
>  "hanja" <hanja228@gmail.com> wrote:

> > That is just plain wrong with the right to free speech, freedom
> > of religion, right to bare arms, freedom from repression by the
> > state etc.

> Everyone has the right to bare arms. Women in NYC have the right to bare 
> breasts.

And then there's the right to arm bears...

John Savard

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