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Thanks Obama

Started byDan Espen <despen@verizon.net>
First post2016-01-18 10:35 -0500
Last post2016-01-24 10:08 +0000
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  Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 10:35 -0500
    Re: Thanks Obama Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-01-18 16:09 +0000
      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-18 17:17 +0000
        Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-18 19:19 +0000
      Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-19 00:44 -0400
        Re: Thanks Obama Andy Burns <usenet.jan2016@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2016-01-19 07:28 +0000
          Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 12:42 +0000
    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 11:18 -0500
      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 04:25 +1100
        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 13:56 -0500
          Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-18 13:08 -0600
            Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-18 12:00 -0800
              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 15:28 -0500
            Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-19 09:45 +0100
              Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-19 20:37 +1100
          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 11:35 +1100
            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:39 -0500
              Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 07:22 +0000
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 06:42 -0500
          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-18 18:55 -0600
            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 20:41 -0500
              Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 22:40 -0500
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-18 23:11 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-18 23:26 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 08:08 +0000
                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:56 -0600
                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:57 -0500
                      Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:32 -0600
                      Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-20 14:12 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 03:05 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:27 -0800
                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:55 -0800
              Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-19 10:06 +0100
                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 06:48 -0500
                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-19 14:44 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 09:07 -0600
                      Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 06:43 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:49 -0500
                        Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 12:09 +0000
                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-20 15:21 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-20 16:24 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-01-20 17:04 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:09 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 05:44 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-20 10:53 -0600
                          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 11:22 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 20:19 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 07:47 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-20 21:24 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 08:55 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-20 17:07 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 11:59 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:32 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 12:03 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-23 15:12 -0600
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 14:14 -0800
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-23 21:17 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-23 14:13 -0800
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 18:25 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-23 18:10 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:40 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:03 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:01 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 12:15 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 09:07 +1100
                            Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:54 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:20 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 19:47 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 13:27 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 12:09 +1100
                    Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 07:30 -0800
                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-19 12:22 -0500
                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 05:35 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 10:59 -0800
                        Re: Thanks Obama Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-01-19 16:26 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 21:31 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 17:51 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 17:05 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:59 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:03 -0500
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:19 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:56 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:12 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:31 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:45 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 15:27 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:45 -0500
                                          Re: Thanks Obama "Sam James" <cf@nospam.com> - 2016-01-21 05:26 +1100
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:48 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-20 00:56 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:16 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:47 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:17 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:43 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-21 05:28 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:26 +1100
                          Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 10:22 +1100
                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 20:09 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 13:23 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:39 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 14:44 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:36 -0500
                              Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 07:00 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 18:17 +1100
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-20 08:08 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 19:18 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:56 -0500
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-21 07:51 +0000
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:36 +1100
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 14:53 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 04:28 +1100
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-23 18:56 +0000
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-24 07:44 +1100
                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 06:59 -0500
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-21 08:16 -0500
                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-21 15:58 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-21 16:37 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-21 10:47 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-23 15:33 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-23 17:22 -0500
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-23 15:30 -0800
                                              Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-24 11:05 +0000
                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 05:21 +1100
                      Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 20:56 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 17:01 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:11 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-19 18:09 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 11:44 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:09 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 16:58 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 23:48 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:34 -0800
                                    Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:06 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 16:55 -0600
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-22 03:38 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 15:00 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:17 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 13:45 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 22:03 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 14:00 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 17:33 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:23 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:32 +0000
                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 20:34 -0600
                                Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 02:51 +0000
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:46 -0500
                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:19 -0800
                          Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 17:42 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:42 -0800
                                Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:10 +1100
                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 19:30 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-21 18:35 -0600
                            Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 13:31 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 09:05 +1100
                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 16:20 -0600
                          Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-19 22:23 +0000
                            Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-21 12:31 -0800
                              Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-22 08:59 +1100
                          Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 17:55 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-19 17:24 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 19:51 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:04 -0600
                              Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 03:24 +0000
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-19 21:52 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 15:31 +1100
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 20:53 -0800
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 17:34 +1100
                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-19 22:58 -0500
                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 13:15 -0600
                                  Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-20 19:39 +0000
                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-20 20:09 -0600
                                      Re: Thanks Obama "James Green" <667755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-21 13:30 +1100
                                      Re: Thanks Obama Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-21 02:29 +0000
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 13:39 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-27 15:12 -0500
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 18:18 -0500
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-28 00:30 +0100
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 21:45 -0500
                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 20:46 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 17:26 -0600
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 13:11 -0600
                                          Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-27 15:31 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-27 18:20 -0500
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 12:16 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 14:23 +0000
                                              Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-28 09:14 -0600
                                                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 15:34 +0000
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-28 20:11 +0000
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 12:27 -0600
                                              Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-28 12:52 -0600
                                                Re: Thanks Obama "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-01-28 14:10 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-28 20:19 +0000
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-29 09:57 +0100
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-01-29 14:08 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 15:08 +0000
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 20:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 19:30 -0500
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "Simmy Jacks" <sk98@nospam.com> - 2016-01-30 05:10 +1100
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-01-29 22:13 +0100
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama "Orange" <oq7755@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:59 +1100
                                                Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 15:43 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 00:38 +0000
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 03:06 -0400
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "Simmy Jacks" <sk98@nospam.com> - 2016-01-29 19:53 +1100
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-29 09:12 -0600
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-29 18:36 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-29 09:48 +0000
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-29 07:32 -0500
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-29 07:48 -0800
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-01-29 13:40 -0600
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 17:57 -0400
                                                          Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-29 22:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-29 17:40 -0600
                                                              Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 19:38 -0600
                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-29 18:14 -0800
                                                                Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-30 11:12 +0000
                                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:47 -0500
                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 09:31 -0600
                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-30 10:40 -0500
                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 13:21 -0600
                                                                          Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-31 00:16 +0000
                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 11:21 -0500
                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 13:24 -0600
                                                                          Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 15:32 -0500
                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-30 15:29 -0600
                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 16:57 -0600
                                                                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-30 19:00 -0500
                                                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 10:43 -0600
                                                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 16:22 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-31 19:30 -0500
                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-31 21:56 -0600
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-01-29 18:25 -0400
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                                                          Re: Thanks Obama mausg@mail.com - 2016-01-30 11:08 +0000
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                                  Re: Thanks Obama Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-21 07:35 +0000
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-24 22:11 -0600
                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-24 23:17 -0600
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-27 18:14 +0000
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-28 13:15 -0800
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 18:43 -0500
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                                              Re: Thanks Obama "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> - 2016-01-27 09:23 +1100
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-29 00:38 +0000
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                            Re: Thanks Obama Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-01-19 18:40 -0800
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                    Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 15:51 +0000
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                              Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-20 06:54 -0500
                            Re: Thanks Obama Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-20 16:29 -0500
                          Re: Thanks Obama Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-01-20 11:32 +0000
                        Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-19 17:39 +0000
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                              Re: Thanks Obama Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-01-22 17:48 -0800
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                            Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-20 18:01 +0000
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                                    Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-25 02:15 +0000
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-01-24 22:08 -0600
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                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-24 11:01 -0800
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                                  Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-24 19:23 -0800
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                                        Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-25 18:33 -0500
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 11:35 -0600
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-26 18:23 +0000
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                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 13:44 -0800
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                                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-27 16:58 -0800
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                                                                        Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-28 14:26 +0000
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                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-01-29 14:03 +0000
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                                                                                    Re: Thanks Obama scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-01 21:24 +0000
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                                                                            Re: Thanks Obama JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-01-29 16:27 -0600
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                                                      Re: Thanks Obama Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-01-27 16:04 +0000
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                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-26 16:36 -0600
                                                  Re: Thanks Obama "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-01-26 19:03 -0500
                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-27 13:12 -0600
                                            Re: Thanks Obama Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-01-26 09:48 -0500
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                                                Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 10:02 -0800
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                                                  Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-25 15:16 -0600
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                                                    Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-25 14:12 -0800
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                                                    Re: Thanks Obama Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-01-26 11:04 -0800
                                                      Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 11:20 -0800
                                                        Re: Thanks Obama Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-01-28 14:29 -0600
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-28 17:08 -0800
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                                                        Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-26 13:37 -0800
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-01-27 07:46 -0800
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                                                              Re: Thanks Obama Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-01-27 18:14 +0000
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#158389

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2016-01-31 15:43 -0600
Message-ID<dh7dgaF8lj4U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158385
"JimP" wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:19:52 -0600, "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>>"Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>>
>>> Private-equity company flipping, take out a loan to buy a company, put
>>> the loan on the company's books, loot the company and then sell it. They
>>> can even sell the company for much less than they paid and walk away
>>> with boat loads of money, since the original loans stays with the sold
>>> company (none of these bad loans affect the rating of the private-equity
>>> company).
>>
>>It seems like only a few hundred people in the world would do this. Why
>>don't the banks make a list of bad guys and share their list with other
>>banks?
>
> They probably want the '[float]', the amount of money they earn on
> someone's deposit while the deposit is 'pending'.
>
> Yes, it should take longer than a few seconds for [huge] deposit to
> dinalize[?]; however, some banks still do this to make 'extra' money.

It seems to me that since 2009 there has been an infinite amount of money at 
zero interest rate available to banks. Therefore the float no longer works, 
so I don't like that explanation. 

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#158442

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-01-31 21:58 -0600
Message-ID<btltabh6b5o69epplbsrbltte9358p0hru@4ax.com>
In reply to#158389
On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 15:43:36 -0600, "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
wrote:
>"JimP" wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 31 Jan 2016 14:19:52 -0600, "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
>> wrote:
>>>"Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Private-equity company flipping, take out a loan to buy a company, put
>>>> the loan on the company's books, loot the company and then sell it. They
>>>> can even sell the company for much less than they paid and walk away
>>>> with boat loads of money, since the original loans stays with the sold
>>>> company (none of these bad loans affect the rating of the private-equity
>>>> company).
>>>
>>>It seems like only a few hundred people in the world would do this. Why
>>>don't the banks make a list of bad guys and share their list with other
>>>banks?
>>
>> They probably want the '[float]', the amount of money they earn on
>> someone's deposit while the deposit is 'pending'.
>>
>> Yes, it should take longer than a few seconds for [huge] deposit to
>> dinalize[?]; however, some banks still do this to make 'extra' money.
>
>It seems to me that since 2009 there has been an infinite amount of money at 
>zero interest rate available to banks. Therefore the float no longer works, 
>so I don't like that explanation. 

I don't like it either... but my current bank was taken over when
banks failed. The previous one didn't do it, the new one does.

-- 
JimP.

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#158410

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-01-31 17:05 -0800
Message-ID<87vb69jl46.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#158375
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
> It seems like only a few hundred people in the world would do
> this. Why don't the banks make a list of bad guys and share their list
> with other banks?

some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.

as noticed elsewhere some of the victims have been the large private &
public pension funds ... where there may also be bonuses&commissions
involved.

Lehman's Gift To Jeb Bush For Funneling Pension Money: A $1.3 Million Consulting "Job"
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-08-19/lehmans-gift-jeb-bush-funneling-pension-money-13-million-consulting-job

there is also the ongoing saga of CALPERS:
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/02/sue-calpers-denial-private-equity-public-records-act-request.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/03/calpers-private-equity-scandals-steptoe-johnson-report-whitewash.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/08/calpers-rescinds-700-million-investment-private-equity-fund-headed-doctor-private-equity-experience.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/10/gretchen-morgenson-damage-private-equity-secrecy-mention-calpers-suit.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/10/private-equity-consultants-flounder-question-abusive-evergreen-fees-calpers-board-meeting.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/04/investors-like-calpers-and-new-york-city-in-the-dark-about-private-equity-fees.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/06/top-private-equity-reporter-calpers-is-either-lying-or-has-a-massive-breakdown-in-financial-controls.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/07/california-state-treasurer-takes-up-calpers-private-equity-carry-fee-reporting-lapse-after-nc-readers-press-him.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/07/calpers-scrambles-to-get-private-equity-carry-fee-info-after-we-break-story-that-they-had-no-clue-what-they-were-paying.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/08/leading-pension-consultant-pca-shills-for-private-equity-firms-in-calperscalstrs-carry-fee-row.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/08/senior-private-equity-officers-at-calpers-do-not-understand-how-the-general-partners-make-money.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/former-state-chief-investment-officer-tells-calpers-and-calstrs-to-fire-consultant-pca-over-proposed-fix-for-poor-private-equityperformance.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/fortunes-dan-primack-takes-up-calpers-private-equity-scandal-calls-head-of-private-equity-factually-wrong.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/how-calpers-consultant-pension-consulting-alliance-is-more-loyal-to-private-equity-than-its-clients.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/mission-impossible-star-alec-baldwin-retweets-yves-post-on-calpers-capture-by-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/the-larger-implications-of-calpers-staff-and-board-incompetence-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/after-nc-media-coverage-of-calpers-and-calstrs-private-equity-fee-lapses-treasurer-john-chiang-calls-for-legislation.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/10/oxford-professor-schools-calpers-contrary-to-board-presentation-private-equity-is-most-expensive-asset-class-by-far.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/11/harvard-professor-josh-lerner-gives-weak-and-internally-contradictory-plug-for-private-equity-at-calpers-workshop.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/11/the-bigger-significance-of-calpers-private-equity-carry-fee-release-another-nail-in-the-carried-interest-tax-loophole-coffin.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-fails-to-use-its-leverage-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-lies-to-itself-and-others-to-justify-investing-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/how-calpers-violated-california-open-meeting-laws-to-stifle-private-equity-skeptics.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/more-on-how-calpers-lies-to-itself-and-others-to-justify-investing-in-private-equity.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/our-bloomberg-op-ed-on-calpers-plan-to-get-rid-of-private-equity-risk-by-ignoring-it.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/we-discuss-private-equity-calpers-and-its-tainted-counsel-on-harry-shearers-le-show-this-sunday.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/we-won-a-fight-against-calpers-over-its-plan-to-ignore-private-equity-risk.html

other CALPERS
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2506775-to-calpers-go-small-and-go-young-or-get-out
http://seekingalpha.com/article/2688805-is-calpers-a-canary-in-the-coal-mine
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-California/2014/04/18/CalPers-Admits-52-Underfunding-on-986-billion-Shortfall
http://www.businessinsider.com/r-calpers-officers-propose-lower-investment-targets-wsj-2015-10
http://www.capoliticalreview.com/capoliticalnewsandviews/corruption-again-calpers-keeping-lobbying-records-secret-from-its-board-members/
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/06/calpers-demonstrates-commitment-operating-bad-faith-public-records-act-requests-keen-hide-bad-records.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/former-calpers-ceo-pleads-guilty-bribery-fraud-including-taking-cash-paper-bags.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/07/orange-county-register-attacks-lack-public-pension-fund-transparency-cites-suit-calpers.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/07/sacramento-bee-reports-on-calpers-fee-lapses.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/california-readers-catch-on-kpfa-this-friday-at-730-am-discussing-calpers-and-calstrs.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/financial-times-joins-the-party-on-calpers-and-links-to-naked-capitalism.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/former-california-official-blasts-calpers-ceo-anne-stausboll-staff-and-board-for-misconduct.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/09/wsjs-carried-interest-comic-strip-mocks-calpers.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/former-california-official-blasts-calpers-ceo-anne-stausboll-for-betrayal-of-trust-in-hiring-scandal-ridden-fiduciary-counsel.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/san-diego-union-tribune-editorial-attacks-calpers-over-half-hearted-plan-to-lower-return-targets.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2015/12/the-twelve-days-of-calpers.html
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2016/01/why-is-calpers-understating-its-cost-of-investing-in-private-by-roughly-1-6-billion-meaning-80.html
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-09-19/first-calpers-now-texas-teachers-cut-hedge-fund-exposure

-- 
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#158444

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2016-01-31 23:26 -0600
Message-ID<dh88l5FekvgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158410
"Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:

> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>> It seems like only a few hundred people in the world would do
>> this. Why don't the banks make a list of bad guys and share their list
>> with other banks?
>
> some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
> triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
> off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.

These deals eventually become bonds don't they?  And it is not a done deal 
until those bonds are sold at retail?  It seems to me that the scenario 
above should result in a class action suit against the rating agency. With 
any reasonable definition they are a central and necessary element of 
committing what is obviously fraud. 

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#158446

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-01-31 22:25 -0800
Message-ID<874mdt0wwc.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#158444
"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
> These deals eventually become bonds don't they?  And it is not a done
> deal until those bonds are sold at retail?  It seems to me that the
> scenario above should result in a class action suit against the rating
> agency. With any reasonable definition they are a central and
> necessary element of committing what is obviously fraud.

Televised Oct2008 congressional hearings into the role that rating
agencies played in the economic mess ... selling triple-A ratings on
toxic CDOs was significant factor in being able to do over $27T from
2001 to 2008 ... testimony was that both the sellers and the rating
agencies knew they weren't triple-A. TV commentators made reference that
the rating agencies will never be prosecuted because the rating agencies
can blackmail the gov. with the threat of downgrading the US credit
rating.

posts mentioning (triple-A rated) toxic CDOs
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#toxic.cdo

there has been some recent settlements fining the sellers for
misrepresenting the quality of what was being sold last decade, ... but
no mention of the rating agencies.

more testimony was that the rating agency business model had become
misaligned when they switched from the buyers paying for the ratings to
the sellers paying for the ratings (so their interest was providing a
rating that gained the sellers the most money). Some reference that it
is enormously harder to regulate business that is incented to do the
wrong thing because business process is misaligned.

Later in Jan2009, when there was still facade that TARP funds were for
purchasing the off-book toxic assets, there was brief mention of one of
the original 60s virtual machine based online commercial service bureaus
(that had moved upstream into all sorts of financial services) would be
helping value these toxic assets. It turns out when the rating agencies
were switching their business model to sellers paying for the rating
... the service bureau had bought the pricing services division from one
of the major rating agencies.

Of course the TARP facade didn't last long ... in part because only
$700B had been appropriated and just the four largest "too big to fail"
were still carrying $5.2T "off-book" at the end of 2008 (TARP could have
never even remotely fixed that problem) ... $700B could never have
bought enough at face value ... and what had been sold was going at
22cents on the dollar ("mark to market"), if bought at that price all
would have been declared insolvement and forced to liquidate.

TARP was then used for what it was possibly always intended ...
originally the triple-A rating allowed them to unload toxic assets w/o
carrying about quality ... but then they found that they could design
toxic assets designed to fail, pay for triple-A, sell to their victims,
and take out CDS gambling bets that they would fail. The largest holder
of these CDS gambling bets, AIG was negotiating to pay off at 50cents on
the dollar when the sec.  of treasury steps in and forces them to sign
document that they can't sue those making the bets and take TARP funds
to pay off at 100cents on the dollar. The largest recipient of TARP
funds is AIG, and the largest recipient of face value payoffs is the
firm formally headed by the sec. of treasury.

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#158451

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-02-01 19:44 +1100
Message-ID<dh8k7vFh958U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158444

"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:dh88l5FekvgU1@mid.individual.net...
> "Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>
>> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>>> It seems like only a few hundred people in the world would do
>>> this. Why don't the banks make a list of bad guys and share their list
>>> with other banks?
>>
>> some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
>> triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
>> off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.

> These deals eventually become bonds don't they?

Yes.

> And it is not a done deal until those bonds are sold at retail?

Yes.

> It seems to me that the scenario above should result in a class action 
> suit against the rating agency.

Not even possible. The rating is just an opinion.

> With any reasonable definition they are a central and necessary element of 
> committing what is obviously fraud.

It wasn't a fraud. The ratings agencies were actually stupid
enough to believe that those bundled securitized mortgages
did actually qualify for the ratings they got, because the
default rate was very low indeed. What they forgot was
that when the shit hit the fan, as it would inevitably do
sometime, the default rate would go through the roof
because of the terminally stupid US non recourse system
that allowed the borrower to just hand back the keys with
no penalty at all. They didn't even lose the payments they
had already made if they had enough of a clue to borrow
more than the value of the property and use that excess
to make the initial payments.

That's why there have been no successful
class actions against the ratings agencies. 

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#158468

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2016-02-01 07:49 -0600
Message-ID<dh962pFlocdU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158451
"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> wrote:

> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
> news:dh88l5FekvgU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>>
>>> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>>>> It seems like only a few hundred people in the world would do
>>>> this. Why don't the banks make a list of bad guys and share their list
>>>> with other banks?
>>>
>>> some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
>>> triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
>>> off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.
>
>> These deals eventually become bonds don't they?
>
> Yes.
>
>> And it is not a done deal until those bonds are sold at retail?
>
> Yes.
>
>> It seems to me that the scenario above should result in a class action 
>> suit against the rating agency.
>
> Not even possible. The rating is just an opinion.

It's not just an opinion if the agency was *paid* for a favorable rating. I 
realize things get very complicated at this point.  Probably too complicated 
for a newsgroup with bumper sticker sized analysis.

>> With any reasonable definition they are a central and necessary element 
>> of committing what is obviously fraud.
>
> It wasn't a fraud. The ratings agencies were actually stupid
> enough to believe that those bundled securitized mortgages
> did actually qualify for the ratings they got, because the
> default rate was very low indeed. What they forgot was
> that when the shit hit the fan, as it would inevitably do
> sometime, the default rate would go through the roof
> because of the terminally stupid US non recourse system
> that allowed the borrower to just hand back the keys with
> no penalty at all. They didn't even lose the payments they
> had already made if they had enough of a clue to borrow
> more than the value of the property and use that excess
> to make the initial payments.

I was discussing the junk bond system, not home mortgages - non-recourse 
doesn't enter into it.  I agree that non-recourse is bad.  AIUI it's a 
leftover from the 1930s depression.

> That's why there have been no successful
> class actions against the ratings agencies. 

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#158509

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-02-02 05:48 +1100
Message-ID<dh9nkeFqbquU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158468

"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:dh962pFlocdU1@mid.individual.net...
> "jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com> wrote:
>
>> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
>> news:dh88l5FekvgU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "Anne & Lynn Wheeler" wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> writes:
>>>>> It seems like only a few hundred people in the world would do
>>>>> this. Why don't the banks make a list of bad guys and share their list
>>>>> with other banks?
>>>>
>>>> some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
>>>> triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
>>>> off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.
>>
>>> These deals eventually become bonds don't they?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> And it is not a done deal until those bonds are sold at retail?
>>
>> Yes.
>>
>>> It seems to me that the scenario above should result in a class action 
>>> suit against the rating agency.
>>
>> Not even possible. The rating is just an opinion.
>
> It's not just an opinion if the agency was *paid* for a favorable rating.

The problem is that they don't work for nothing and it isn't
feasible to have the govt pay them for all the work they do.

And they justified those AAA ratings publicly too, before
they didn't just do it in secret and not tell anyone etc.

> I realize things get very complicated at this point.  Probably too 
> complicated for a newsgroup with bumper sticker sized analysis.

And clearly too complicated for a successful class action
too given that there hasn't ever been one on that question.

>>> With any reasonable definition they are a central and necessary element 
>>> of committing what is obviously fraud.
>>
>> It wasn't a fraud. The ratings agencies were actually stupid
>> enough to believe that those bundled securitized mortgages
>> did actually qualify for the ratings they got, because the
>> default rate was very low indeed. What they forgot was
>> that when the shit hit the fan, as it would inevitably do
>> sometime, the default rate would go through the roof
>> because of the terminally stupid US non recourse system
>> that allowed the borrower to just hand back the keys with
>> no penalty at all. They didn't even lose the payments they
>> had already made if they had enough of a clue to borrow
>> more than the value of the property and use that excess
>> to make the initial payments.
>
> I was discussing the junk bond system, not home mortgages

Yeah, it wasn't clear which ones you were talking about.
I notice Lynn had the same problem.

Your problem now tho is that no junk bond got a AAA rating
so that those who legally couldn't invest in anything with a
worse rating ended up investing in them and got burnt.

> - non-recourse doesn't enter into it.  I agree that non-recourse is bad. 
> AIUI it's a leftover from the 1930s depression.

Doesn't explain why no one else of
the majors has such a stupid system.

>> That's why there have been no successful
>> class actions against the ratings agencies.
 

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#158530

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2016-02-01 14:14 -0600
Message-ID<dh9slvFrluuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158509
"jack" wrote:

> Your problem now tho is that no junk bond got a AAA rating
> so that those who legally couldn't invest in anything with a
> worse rating ended up investing in them and got burnt.

That's my hunch too.  However I was responding to this post from Lynn:

>some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.

triple-A ≡ AAA.

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#158560

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-02-02 09:44 +1100
Message-ID<dha5e6FtujmU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158530

"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:dh9slvFrluuU1@mid.individual.net...
> "jack" wrote:
>
>> Your problem now tho is that no junk bond got a AAA rating
>> so that those who legally couldn't invest in anything with a
>> worse rating ended up investing in them and got burnt.
>
> That's my hunch too.  However I was responding to this post from Lynn:
>
>>some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
> triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
> off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.

He was talking about mortgages there, not junk bonds.

No junk bonds ever got a AAA rating, they are called junk bonds for a 
reason.

> triple-A ≡ AAA.
 

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#158568

From"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net>
Date2016-02-01 17:29 -0600
Message-ID<dha82rF34dU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158560
"jack" wrote:

> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
> news:dh9slvFrluuU1@mid.individual.net...
>> "jack" wrote:
>>
>>> Your problem now tho is that no junk bond got a AAA rating
>>> so that those who legally couldn't invest in anything with a
>>> worse rating ended up investing in them and got burnt.
>>
>> That's my hunch too.  However I was responding to this post from Lynn:
>>
>>>some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
>> triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
>> off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.
>
> He was talking about mortgages there, not junk bonds.

I have never noticed Lynn has a problem expressing himself.   Why would he 
say "like mortgages" if he meant "mortgages"? 

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#158571

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-02-02 10:59 +1100
Message-ID<dha9qfFfn9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#158568

"Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:dha82rF34dU1@mid.individual.net...
> "jack" wrote:
>
>> "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> wrote in message 
>> news:dh9slvFrluuU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> "jack" wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your problem now tho is that no junk bond got a AAA rating
>>>> so that those who legally couldn't invest in anything with a
>>>> worse rating ended up investing in them and got burnt.
>>>
>>> That's my hunch too.  However I was responding to this post from Lynn:
>>>
>>>>some of it is like mortgages last decade ... securitize them, pay for
>>> triple-A and unload on gullible ... they make money/bonuses/commissions
>>> off the transactions as they flow thru ... but not held accountable.
>>
>> He was talking about mortgages there, not junk bonds.
>
> I have never noticed Lynn has a problem expressing himself.   Why would he 
> say "like mortgages" if he meant "mortgages"?

Because he was moving from junk bonds to mortgages
and that is one obvious way of saying that.

There were never any junk bonds with AAA
ratings, they are called junk bonds for a reason.
 

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#158435

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-01-31 18:48 -0800
Message-ID<87r3gxjgcc.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#158374
other private-equity trivia

claim is that industry got such a bad reputation during the S&L crisis,
that they changed the industry name to "private-equity" (and junk bonds
become high-yield bonds).

I've periodically mentioned that AMEX was in competition with KKR to do
private-equity take-over of RJR and KKR wins. KKR then runs into trouble
and hires away president of AMEX to turn it around
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbarians_at_the_Gate:_The_Fall_of_RJR_Nabisco

IBM has gone into the red and is in the process of being broken up into
the 13 "baby blues". The board then hires away the former president of
AMEX to reverse the breakup and resurrect IBM. Uses some of same
techniques at IBM that had been used at RJR
http://www.ibmemployee.com/RetirementHeist.shtml

Later the former president of AMEX leaves IBM and becomes head of
another large private-equity company which does private-equity take-over
(among others) of company that will employ Snowden:
http://www.investingdaily.com/17693/spies-like-us/

Private contractors like Booz Allen now reportedly garner 70 percent of
the annual $80 billion intelligence budget and supply more than half of
the available manpower. They're not going away any time soon unless the
CIA and NSA want to start over and with some off-the-shelf laptops,
networked by the Geek Squad from Best Buy. Security clearances used to
be a government function too, but are now a profit center for various
private-equity subsidiaries.

... snip ...

especially when they get paid for doing background checks but just
fillout paperwork and skip the checks (private-equity victim companies
are under heavy pressure to generate revenue).

'This was all planned': Former IG says Hillary, State Dept. are lying
http://nypost.com/2016/01/31/this-was-all-planned-former-ig-says-hillary-state-dept-are-lying/

Even if they accept the referral, he says, the case quickly and quietly
will be plea-bargained down to misdemeanors punisable by fines in a deal
similar to the one Clinton's lawyer, David Kendall, secured for
Gen. David Petraeus. In other words, a big slap on the wrist.

... snip ...

trivia ... Petreaus is hired by KKR when he resigns as director of CIA
in disgrace.

private-equity posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity
president of AMEX posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#gerstner

and Bush1 as VP in the 80s was full-time(?) administration point-person
deregulating financial industry creating S&L crisis ... then Bush2 as
president last decade presides over economic mess, 70 times larger than
S&L crisis (S&L crisis had 1,000 criminal convictions, proportionally,
there should be 70,000 criminal convictions for economic mess, but there
have been NONE).

-- 
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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#158592

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-02-01 22:34 -0800
Message-ID<87r3gvmxi2.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#158435
Rewriting the Rules of the American Economy: An Agenda for Growth and
Shared Prosperity (Joseph E. Stiglitz)
http://www.amazon.com/Rewriting-Rules-American-Economy-Prosperity-ebook/dp/B015774QVY/

pg115/loc1480-83

Already, thanks to a provision of Dodd-Frank that requires private
equity to register with the SEC, significant amounts of fraud or
substandard behavior have been disclosed. As the director of the SEC’s
Office of Compliance Inspections and Examinations put it after
investigating a sample of 150 newly registered private equity
advisers: “we have identified what we believe are violations of law or
material weaknesses in controls over 50 percent of the time.”

... snip ...

SEC acquired the information to prove that private equity was
committing fraud ... but not to actually do something about it.

new items from 2014 about private equity fraud:

SEC Official: Over Half Of All Private Equity Audits Revealed Crimes
http://news.firedoglake.com/2014/05/09/sec-official-over-half-of-all-private-equity-audits-revealed-crimes/
SEC Official Describes Widespread Lawbreaking and Material Weakness in
Controls in Private Equity Industry
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/05/sec-official-describes-widespread-lawbreaking-material-weakness-controls-private-equity-industry.html
New York Times' New Editor Buries Important Story on Private Equity
Fee Shenanigans on Holiday Weekend
http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2014/05/new-york-times-new-editor-buries-important-story-private-equity-fee-shenanigans-holiday-weekend.html

posts mentioning private-equity
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#private.equity

-- 
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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#158621

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-02-02 09:21 -0800
Message-ID<87si1bt4db.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#158592
another in the on-going saga of "deferred prosecution" and nobody held
responsible ... money laundering for drug cartels and terrorists

Report on HSBC's rocky road to reform in US to be made public
http://www.icij.org/blog/2016/01/report-hsbcs-rocky-road-reform-us-be-made-public

money laundering posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#money.laundering
"too big to fail" ("too big to prosecute", "too big to jail")
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#too-big-to-fail

the joke is that fines in "deferred prosecution" are so small compared
to the amounts involved ... it is becoming viewed as cost of running
criminal operation.

some past "deferred prosecution" posts (I'm still working
on getting garlic webpages updated since 17apr2015).
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2014i.html#10 Instead of focusing on big fines, law enforcement should seek long prison terms for the responsible executives
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#80 Greedy Banks Nailed With $5 BILLION+ Fine For Fraud And Corruption
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#23 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#44 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015e.html#47 Do we REALLY NEED all this regulatory oversight?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#36 Eric Holder, Wall Street Double Agent, Comes in From the Cold
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#37 LIBOR: History's Largest Financial Crime that the WSJ and NYT Would Like You to Forget
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#57 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#61 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#31 Talk of Criminally Prosecuting Corporations Up, Actual Prosecutions Down
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#44 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#47 rationality
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#65 Economic Mess
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#10 25 Years: How the Web began

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#157792

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-27 04:58 +1100
Message-ID<dgpqf4FprfjU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157758

"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message 
news:S7adnW2w8tuf4zrLnZ2dnUU78SednZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 26/01/2016 12:39, Morten Reistad wrote:
> {snip}
>
>> But Google, Apple and Microsoft will have to pay taxes soon, or be 
>> permanently
>> relegated to the other geography.
>
> I suspect that Google will use a different name in each country.

Makes no difference to their tax liability.

> Small firms will pay for adverts in that country. Multi-national companies 
> will buy multi-country advertising from an agency is a tax haven.

That's what happens now. 

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#157838

FromAndrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com>
Date2016-01-26 22:47 +0000
Message-ID<vL6dnScMxa3iajrLnZ2dnUU78XkAAAAA@giganews.com>
In reply to#157792
On 26/01/2016 17:58, jack wrote:
>
>
> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
> news:S7adnW2w8tuf4zrLnZ2dnUU78SednZ2d@giganews.com...
>> On 26/01/2016 12:39, Morten Reistad wrote:
>> {snip}
>>
>>> But Google, Apple and Microsoft will have to pay taxes soon, or be
>>> permanently
>>> relegated to the other geography.
>>
>> I suspect that Google will use a different name in each country.
>
> Makes no difference to their tax liability.
>

Only if the governments can work it out.

>> Small firms will pay for adverts in that country. Multi-national
>> companies will buy multi-country advertising from an agency is a tax
>> haven.
>
> That's what happens now.

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#157842

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-27 10:03 +1100
Message-ID<dgqcb4Fuf24U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157838

"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message 
news:vL6dnScMxa3iajrLnZ2dnUU78XkAAAAA@giganews.com...
> On 26/01/2016 17:58, jack wrote:
>>
>>
>> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>> news:S7adnW2w8tuf4zrLnZ2dnUU78SednZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> On 26/01/2016 12:39, Morten Reistad wrote:
>>> {snip}
>>>
>>>> But Google, Apple and Microsoft will have to pay taxes soon, or be
>>>> permanently
>>>> relegated to the other geography.
>>>
>>> I suspect that Google will use a different name in each country.
>>
>> Makes no difference to their tax liability.
>>
>
> Only if the governments can work it out.

That isn't hard to work out when those who pay for advertising
on google claim those payments as deductions.

>>> Small firms will pay for adverts in that country. Multi-national
>>> companies will buy multi-country advertising from an agency is a tax
>>> haven.
>>
>> That's what happens now.
> 

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#157846

FromAndrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com>
Date2016-01-26 23:26 +0000
Message-ID<bZadnY3hMe4InTXLnZ2dnUU78fednZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#157842
On 26/01/2016 23:03, jack wrote:
{snip}

>> Only if the governments can work it out.
>
> That isn't hard to work out when those who pay for advertising
> on google claim those payments as deductions.

Ah! But in which country does a multi-national claim the deductions?

The tax men are relying on the tax haven to tell them. If they do that 
the tax haven does not get used in the following year so loses its 
million dollar fee.

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#157870

From"jack" <jkl8976@nospam.com>
Date2016-01-27 11:14 +1100
Message-ID<dgqgf1FtguU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#157846

"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btinternet.com> wrote in message 
news:bZadnY3hMe4InTXLnZ2dnUU78fednZ2d@giganews.com...
> On 26/01/2016 23:03, jack wrote:
> {snip}
>
>>> Only if the governments can work it out.
>>
>> That isn't hard to work out when those who pay for advertising
>> on google claim those payments as deductions.
>
> Ah! But in which country does a multi-national claim the deductions?

Those aren't the multinationals, those are the small business
non multinationals. That got lost in  your excessive snipping.

> The tax men are relying on the tax haven to tell them.

Not with with small business non multinationals, those
are claiming the deduction in the tax men's system so the
tax men can see who is being paid for those google ads.

If they do that
> the tax haven does not get used in the following year so loses its million 
> dollar fee.

We aren't talking about tax havens in this case. 

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