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| Started by | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| First post | 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000 |
| Last post | 2016-04-11 22:01 -0500 |
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Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-03-30 13:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-03-30 09:15 -0700
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-03-31 04:03 +1100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-03-31 09:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 12:12 -0400
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-04 17:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-11 17:39 -0400
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-12 00:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 20:44 +0000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 21:03 -0400
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-02 15:12 +1100
Re: Qbasic "764hho" <764hho@nospam.com> - 2016-04-02 15:15 +1100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-02 05:34 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-02 08:31 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-02 12:21 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-02 20:49 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-03 08:34 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-03 10:12 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 19:43 +1000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-03 15:45 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 03:29 +1000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 12:00 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-03 03:51 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-03 16:42 +0100
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-03 20:51 -0400
Re: Qbasic Gatuzo <Gatuzo@mccarragher.org> - 2016-04-03 21:11 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 21:42 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:10 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 11:56 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 12:47 +1000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 22:53 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-04 06:33 -0700
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-04 14:04 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-04 15:42 +0100
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-04 15:32 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-04 17:05 +0100
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 12:08 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 15:05 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-04 23:59 +0200
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 18:42 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-05 03:05 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-12 19:15 -0400
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-04 23:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 21:41 -0400
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-12 19:13 -0400
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-13 06:28 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 06:33 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-13 07:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 06:30 +1000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 16:54 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-04 17:08 -0500
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 17:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 21:22 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:48 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 21:56 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 12:16 +1000
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 12:00 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 18:03 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 21:30 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:53 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 12:05 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 15:09 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 18:05 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 21:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 20:34 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 10:28 +1000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-04 07:08 +0100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-04 07:36 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 17:48 +1000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-04 09:14 +0100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:10 -0400
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-04 15:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-04 17:12 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-06 00:39 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-06 09:36 +0100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 10:31 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 20:01 +1000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 12:18 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 03:50 +1000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 14:16 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:20 +1000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-03 19:24 +0100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 15:14 -0400
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 04:31 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 14:53 +1000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 10:22 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:56 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 11:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:10 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-04 06:36 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 06:38 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 08:33 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 12:15 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:40 +1000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:31 -0700
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:44 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-05 12:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-11 17:28 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 08:03 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-12 11:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 05:01 +1000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-12 16:36 -0400
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 09:38 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-13 11:11 +0000
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 04:28 +1000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-11 20:51 -0500
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 15:10 +1000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-12 07:30 -0400
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-13 13:09 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-13 13:07 -0700
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:31 +1000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-13 16:48 -0500
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:38 -0500
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:36 +1000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-13 22:11 -0500
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:35 +1000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-13 21:54 -0500
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 13:28 +1000
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-04-13 23:04 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-14 11:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 16:20 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 16:14 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-14 23:23 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-15 16:32 +0000
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 20:17 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-15 11:00 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 04:15 +1000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-02 16:28 -0500
Re: Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-04-02 21:44 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 08:17 +1000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-03 03:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-03 16:56 +0100
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:05 -0400
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:21 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 21:48 -0400
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-05 12:49 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 16:54 -0400
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-06 16:32 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-07 11:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-11 17:31 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 04:13 +1000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-02 20:14 -0400
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 11:51 -0400
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-03 05:29 +0100
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-03 03:57 -0700
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 07:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 14:00 +0200
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 08:55 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-03 06:18 -0700
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 10:03 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 03:27 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-03 16:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-03 11:20 -0500
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 11:48 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-03 11:39 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 03:55 +1000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:38 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-03 11:14 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 04:01 +1000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 20:31 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 15:14 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-04 01:58 +0200
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 20:50 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 20:10 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 21:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 22:55 -0400
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 04:33 +0100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:10 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:16 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-04 15:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 17:52 -0400
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-04 15:54 +0000
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-04 09:22 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:42 +1000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 20:05 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 22:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:38 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-03 06:17 -0700
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 10:01 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 17:20 +0200
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:02 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 03:44 +1000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 20:23 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 15:14 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:50 +1000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 19:52 -0400
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 04:40 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 15:00 +1000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 10:23 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:57 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 08:41 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:53 +1000
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-05 21:14 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:10 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 17:52 -0400
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-05 11:27 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-05 14:52 +0200
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 04:04 +1000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-05 22:50 +0100
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 08:26 +1000
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:39 +1000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 04:37 +0100
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-03 10:52 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:40 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-04 19:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-05 12:57 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-05 13:43 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 07:38 +1000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-11 17:24 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-12 11:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-12 13:47 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-12 16:50 +0200
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 05:04 +1000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 17:32 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 17:30 -0400
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-12 17:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-13 13:18 -0700
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:36 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-14 16:07 +0200
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 12:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:28 +1000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:47 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-14 11:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 16:20 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-14 20:35 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-15 09:23 -0400
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-15 12:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-15 16:59 +0200
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-15 11:59 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 18:52 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-16 01:45 +0000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 22:24 -0400
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-16 10:13 -0700
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 18:41 -0400
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-17 11:09 -0400
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-17 10:29 -0500
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-20 20:36 -0400
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-20 19:48 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-16 09:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-16 13:16 +0200
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-16 13:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-16 10:36 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-16 20:18 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-16 20:46 -0700
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-17 09:53 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-17 12:07 +0200
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 08:51 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-17 09:26 -0500
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:51 +1000
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:44 +1000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 09:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 12:43 +0100
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 12:41 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-19 18:29 +0000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-19 12:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 01:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:38 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 16:44 +0100
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 16:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-18 13:04 -0500
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-18 18:51 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-18 14:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:19 +1000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:13 -0500
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-26 11:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 11:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:32 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Jack Brown" <7865jb@nospam.com> - 2016-04-28 06:09 +1000
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-18 16:12 -0300
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-18 20:29 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 20:20 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-19 06:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:17 +1000
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 21:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:11 +1000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 14:47 -0400
Re: Qbasic Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-04-19 22:06 -0300
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 10:31 -0400
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 10:55 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 11:15 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-21 08:01 +0200
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 12:34 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-20 10:20 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 15:29 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:24 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 15:25 +0000
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-20 18:07 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 13:07 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-20 11:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 15:25 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-21 08:19 -0700
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-21 15:25 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 17:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-21 11:28 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 07:11 -0500
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-20 17:49 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 03:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-21 08:11 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 17:58 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 12:34 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-21 14:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-21 20:20 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-22 11:18 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:24 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 16:25 -0400
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-16 19:42 -0400
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:15 +1000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 12:21 -0500
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-19 06:03 +0100
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:33 +1000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-22 07:11 +0100
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 05:31 +1000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-22 15:01 -0500
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 12:21 +1000
Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-24 11:21 +0200
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-24 12:43 +0200
Re: Qbasic Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-04-25 07:16 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-25 10:10 +0200
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-25 15:42 +0100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-25 16:55 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-04-26 00:05 +0200
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 06:14 +0100
Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-04-26 07:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-26 12:39 +0100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 13:54 +0100
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-26 10:18 -0500
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 16:39 +0100
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-26 11:44 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-26 18:15 +0200
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-26 22:44 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-27 10:50 +0200
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 11:10 +0100
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-24 11:39 +0100
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 07:43 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-24 12:20 -0400
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-24 17:01 -0300
Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-26 21:37 +0200
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-26 16:37 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-26 22:16 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Jack Brown" <7865jb@nospam.com> - 2016-04-27 14:18 +1000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-27 12:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 19:32 +0100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-28 12:06 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-28 13:43 +0100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-29 12:18 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-29 13:39 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-29 15:19 +0200
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-29 14:27 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-29 09:58 -0500
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-29 19:51 +0200
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 06:28 +0100
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:11 -0400
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 14:14 +0100
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 09:54 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 13:54 +1000
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 13:46 +1000
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 06:11 +1000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 09:02 +0200
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 05:49 +1000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-25 15:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-25 16:55 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-25 23:56 +0200
Re: Qbasic Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-04-22 01:02 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-22 15:22 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 11:41 -0400
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-19 11:21 +0100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-18 13:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 13:45 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-18 15:37 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-19 18:29 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-19 19:18 +0000
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-19 17:04 -0300
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-19 17:52 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 20:17 -0500
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:39 -0500
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 12:25 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-19 06:00 +0100
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:22 +1000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:49 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-26 11:02 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-26 17:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-04-26 14:31 -0400
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-26 21:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 18:33 -0500
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-26 22:35 -0400
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-27 16:19 -0300
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 19:53 -0400
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-30 15:24 -0300
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:14 -0500
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 06:06 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-27 10:59 +0200
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 11:12 +0100
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 14:21 -0400
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-27 11:38 -0700
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 13:51 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-27 19:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 08:48 +0200
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 20:05 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 09:09 +0200
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-28 22:25 -0700
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 13:46 -0500
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 20:01 -0400
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 20:00 -0500
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 22:39 -0400
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 22:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-27 19:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:30 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-29 19:30 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-30 23:39 +0200
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:23 -0500
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-26 22:55 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-27 10:00 -0700
Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-27 10:08 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-27 12:40 +0000
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 14:24 -0400
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-28 12:06 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-27 12:59 -0700
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 08:59 +0200
Re: Qbasic Clark G <clarkm.geimsler@ieeemmm.org> - 2016-04-28 20:43 +0000
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-28 19:14 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:41 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-29 19:30 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-29 22:05 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-29 17:20 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-04-30 07:10 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-30 01:44 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-30 06:25 -0400
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-04-30 23:58 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:55 +0000
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-01 12:26 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 18:25 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:12 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-02 17:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 16:58 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 04:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-02 22:11 -0400
Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-03 06:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-03 14:34 +0000
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 12:37 -0400
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-03 19:00 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 17:07 -0500
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 22:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 04:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-03 13:43 -0700
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 06:02 +1000
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-06 19:13 -0400
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-07 13:14 +0000
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-07 16:27 -0400
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 13:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-08 20:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-09 13:08 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-07 20:29 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-07 16:47 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-07 20:23 +0000
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 12:29 +0100
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-30 12:43 -0500
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 19:58 +0100
Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-01 06:59 +0000
Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-30 15:09 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:49 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-01 00:06 +0200
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-01 04:36 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:53 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-01 06:04 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:12 +0000
Re:AM radio Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-30 12:00 -0700
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 15:47 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-01 00:15 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-01 12:26 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-01 15:24 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-02 13:13 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:45 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-02 15:51 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-02 16:09 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:40 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-03 18:33 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-03 16:09 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-03 13:47 -0700
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:33 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 15:11 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-03 11:50 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-03 13:35 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-03 18:28 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-03 16:09 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 16:50 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-04 13:02 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:32 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:30 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:27 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:35 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:23 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:43 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 16:13 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 22:08 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-05 19:45 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-06 07:22 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-06 15:34 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-06 22:50 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 05:35 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 02:35 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-07 20:01 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-07 17:33 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-08 06:52 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 08:35 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-08 14:40 +0100
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Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 10:40 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-08 12:17 -0400
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-07 20:13 -0700
Re: AM radio Qbasic Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-05-07 20:45 -0700
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-07 23:45 -0500
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Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-04 18:32 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 16:48 -0500
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Re: AM radio Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-05-02 12:49 -0700
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Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 18:26 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 08:24 -0500
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Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 05:53 +1000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-03 11:50 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-04 13:02 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 16:33 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-05-03 14:54 -0700
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 23:08 -0400
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Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-04 13:02 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 15:11 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-04 16:43 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-04 23:17 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-05 13:37 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-05 12:25 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-05 12:42 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-06 13:28 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-03 11:50 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 08:17 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-04 13:02 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:59 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-04 15:13 -0500
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-04 23:26 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-03 16:09 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-03 21:09 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 22:56 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 23:38 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:55 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-04 13:02 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 04:02 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-03 11:50 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-03 13:37 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-03 17:17 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-03 18:37 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:24 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 17:37 +1000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-05 00:58 +0200
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-04 10:26 +0100
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-04 14:38 +0100
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Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-06 05:11 +1000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-04 14:46 +0100
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-05 15:35 +0100
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-06 18:10 +0100
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Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-07 13:14 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-07 13:54 -0500
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Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-09 15:11 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-05-09 22:26 +0000
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Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-09 15:09 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-09 23:57 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-10 18:49 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-11 07:07 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-09 13:08 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-09 15:23 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-10 12:34 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 03:45 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-09 13:08 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-09 15:27 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 04:53 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-10 12:34 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-10 13:03 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-11 12:18 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-11 13:13 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-12 13:04 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-12 14:44 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-12 15:47 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-13 12:53 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-13 09:00 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-05-13 10:00 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-13 11:06 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-13 18:16 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-13 12:24 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-13 20:25 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-13 14:27 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-14 13:08 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-14 15:53 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-14 21:07 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-14 15:12 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-14 16:15 -0700
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-14 19:42 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-14 19:17 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-15 10:28 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-15 11:37 -0700
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-15 09:16 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-15 09:21 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-15 09:55 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-15 10:26 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-15 15:19 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-15 09:57 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-15 14:09 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-15 14:09 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-16 20:26 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-17 12:32 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-13 16:26 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-12 11:37 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 03:19 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-11 09:53 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 10:18 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-11 16:29 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-11 14:29 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 13:59 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-11 21:37 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 21:37 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-12 12:39 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-12 14:43 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-12 19:26 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-11 21:11 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-12 05:00 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-10 15:56 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 10:56 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-10 18:18 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-10 18:49 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-10 16:00 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-11 07:16 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 10:53 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-10 17:22 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 15:18 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-10 18:20 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 05:23 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-10 19:50 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 06:13 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-13 12:53 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-13 12:43 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-15 14:09 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-09 16:26 +0000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-09 18:07 +0100
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-09 14:47 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 10:06 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-10 11:57 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 05:15 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 06:11 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-09 23:49 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-11 05:06 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-13 06:07 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-13 08:30 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 20:30 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-16 22:39 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic mrr@sambook.reistad.name (Morten Reistad) - 2016-05-17 11:10 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-13 16:19 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-15 20:29 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 04:45 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-10 16:01 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-05-10 15:20 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-10 22:59 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-10 19:15 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-05-08 10:53 -0400
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-08 10:42 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-08 18:38 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-05-08 12:40 -0500
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-09 03:36 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-05 05:32 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 05:13 +1000
Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-04 00:32 +0200
Re: AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-04 10:36 +1000
Re: Re:AM radio Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 06:00 +1000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-05-02 13:07 +0000
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-30 15:19 -0300
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 18:31 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:34 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-27 07:48 -0500
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-27 16:53 +0000
Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-28 22:03 -0700
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 12:50 +0100
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-26 12:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 11:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-26 18:28 +0200
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:24 +0000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-27 16:53 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:33 -0500
Re: Qbasic Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-04-26 20:18 +0000
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-27 00:34 +0200
Re: Qbasic "Jack Brown" <7865jb@nospam.com> - 2016-04-27 14:23 +1000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-27 03:15 -0400
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 06:02 +1000
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-26 22:42 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:21 +0000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 23:24 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-19 02:08 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-19 11:06 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-19 10:08 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-19 11:29 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-19 18:39 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-19 18:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-19 17:38 -0500
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-19 19:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-19 09:13 +0100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-19 07:29 -0400
Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-19 13:19 +0100
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-19 17:20 +0100
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-19 13:55 +0200
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-19 18:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-19 16:47 -0300
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-18 16:41 -0400
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 17:26 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-18 19:24 -0500
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-19 07:29 -0400
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-19 14:15 +0000
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 21:14 -0500
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 20:24 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-19 11:52 -0700
Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-19 16:04 -0400
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-19 17:07 -0300
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-19 16:20 -0500
Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-20 00:45 -0300
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-19 21:59 -0700
Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-04-20 06:52 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-20 10:34 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-19 21:56 -0700
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 01:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-20 10:36 +0000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-20 10:32 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-19 18:03 -0500
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:03 +1000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 09:47 -0700
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 13:53 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-17 11:03 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-17 07:35 -0400
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-17 14:03 +0000
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-17 14:16 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-17 12:09 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 13:37 -0500
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-17 20:09 +0000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 18:48 -0400
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-18 12:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-18 13:31 -0500
Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:46 +1000
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:42 +1000
Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-18 03:27 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-17 07:35 -0400
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-17 20:06 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 12:48 +0100
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 09:49 -0400
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 09:52 -0700
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-17 11:05 -0400
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 12:51 +0100
Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-18 12:38 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 09:53 -0700
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-18 19:02 +0000
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-18 19:04 +0000
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-19 11:28 +0100
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-19 11:13 +0000
Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-16 06:33 -0700
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-16 12:15 -0400
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-16 07:24 -0400
Re: Wikipedia interest, was Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-16 13:10 -0700
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-17 11:01 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-17 11:57 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 12:57 +0100
Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:39 -0500
Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 12:54 +0100
Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-04-18 11:23 -0400
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 14:47 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-18 15:44 -0500
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-17 11:00 -0400
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-17 21:27 +0000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 06:35 -0400
Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 10:51 +0000
Epigenetics (was Re: Qbasic) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-18 15:48 -0300
Re: Epigenetics (was Re: Qbasic) Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 21:35 +0000
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 12:06 +1000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-11 17:21 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 07:55 +1000
Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-12 11:42 +0000
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 17:28 -0400
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-13 13:17 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-13 17:29 -0400
Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 07:37 +1000
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:12 -0700
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:41 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 12:15 +1000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-05 10:26 -0500
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 22:39 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 15:08 +1000
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-06 07:52 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 19:44 -0400
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-06 12:49 -0500
Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-05 12:42 -0700
Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-05 16:54 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 22:42 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 15:14 +1000
Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-04 11:23 -0400
Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-04 15:57 +0000
Re: Qbasic JimP. <blue@cwahi.net> - 2016-04-04 12:24 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 15:14 -0400
Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-04 14:25 -0500
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 15:51 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 17:58 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 21:26 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:51 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 22:02 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 20:40 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 22:28 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 20:51 -0400
Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-05 09:32 -0400
Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-05 16:00 +0200
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 22:28 -0400
Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-05 22:26 -0400
Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-11 21:25 -0500
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| From | "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-06 08:26 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dmiscvFl8r9U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #162174 |
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:B5SdnROJiuuVrpnKnZ2dnUU78SWdnZ2d@giganews.com... > On 05/04/2016 19:04, Thomas Johns wrote: >> >> >> "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> wrote in message >> news:zPudnQSOEP5pD57KnZ2dnUU78c3NnZ2d@giganews.com... >>> On 04/04/2016 22:52, J. Clarke wrote: >>>> In article <205609401.481466171.865705.peter_flass- >>>> yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>, peter_flass@yahoo.com says... >>>>> >>>>> J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> In article <91693756.481402945.423401.peter_flass- >>>>>> yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>, peter_flass@yahoo.com says... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> wrote: >>>>>>>> In article <dmd33sF6p00U1@mid.individual.net>, >>>>>>>> Thomas Johns <TJzz@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:MPG.316b08738c44217098a06c@news.eternal-september.org... >>>>>>>>>> In article <qvo7tc-jo3.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>, >>>>>>>>>> first@last.name.invalid says... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>>>>> <MPG.316aec36238593ed98a06a@news.eternal-september.org>, >>>>>>>>>>> J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> In article >>>>>>>>>>>> <74c6d653-7e69-4da0-9ae0-1d764b7d8ea0@googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>>>>>>> jsavard@ecn.ab.ca says... >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 5:40:40 AM UTC-6, J. Clarke wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The boss may always be right >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Not in the US system if he can't convince Congress >>>>>>>>> to do something the way he wants it done. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> (Obama seems to think that he is always right too) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But doesn't get to force the country to do what he decides is >>>>>>>>> right >>>>>>>>> on anything at all, not even with what the military does >>>>>>>>> invasion wise. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> but can he fail of re-election? Putin is not "president for >>>>>>>>>> life" or any such. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But does decide how things are done regardless >>>>>>>>> of which role he technically holds at the time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And if/when he dies there are lots of oligarchs that are ready >>>>>>>> to take over. This will probably be bloody, but swift. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I do not have faith in Russia's current rulers handing over >>>>>>>> power peacefully. Which is one of the acid tests on a >>>>>>>> democracy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> He has this term and another one and then he has to >>>>>>>>>> sit it out for six years. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Or be Pres again. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As for the Chinese, I know the high school version of it and I >>>>>>>>>> know that >>>>>>>>>> most of what I learned about politics in high school is crap. >>>>>>>>>> Maybe Xi >>>>>>>>>> is an absolute dictator, maybe he isn't. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's the communist party that is the dictator in China. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It was in Russia too towards the end. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> If he is he seems to be doing >>>>>>>>>> a good job for everybody involved. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That just means that the communist party is >>>>>>>>> currently a quite effective dictator. So is Putin. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Or Viet Nam. Remember that one? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The current US military would be quite adequate to handle Viet >>>>>>>>>> Nam. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It would fail in precisely the same way it failed there last time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The defeat there was not primarily by the military, it was the >>>>>>>> civil >>>>>>>> society that cut support for the war, and the US military cannot >>>>>>>> fight >>>>>>>> one for long without civilian support. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It has done even worse in Iraq and Afghanistan than it did in >>>>>>>>> Vietnam. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The notion that it was the result of failure of the military is >>>>>>>>>> popular >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> not in accordance with the fact. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The fact is that the US failed to get to decide how things were >>>>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>> there and the side it supported in that civil war lost that >>>>>>>>> civil war. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Even the general commanding the North Vietnamese >>>>>>>>>> forces admits that when the US pulled out, he was beaten. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But the US pulled out anyway, essentially because the voters >>>>>>>>> were sick of the involvement of the US in that civil war and >>>>>>>>> couldn't see any point in that. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Amen. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The usual rejoinder to this is "but they still have the >>>>>>>>>> country". This >>>>>>>>>> is true, but the reason is that when the US pulled out it >>>>>>>>>> created a >>>>>>>>>> power vacuum that the North Vietnamese were able to fill. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The real reason is that it was always a civil war >>>>>>>>> and the US backed the side that lost that civil war. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In other words, Nixon pulled defeat out of the jaws of victory. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There never would have been any 'victory' for the US if >>>>>>>>> he hadn't. The civil war would have continued anyway. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> It's kind of like beating the crap out of the >>>>>>>>>> school bully, then giving him your lunch money. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Nothing like in fact. The US never gave >>>>>>>>> Vietnam anything once it gave up there. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> However garrisoning an occupied state is a different task from >>>>>>>>>> conquering it in the first place, and that is the thing that >>>>>>>>>> the US is >>>>>>>>>> still having trouble with. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But didn't with Germany and Japan. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Germany and Japan were not just defeated. Their military were >>>>>>>> literally obliterated. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Look at pictures of Berlin or Hiroshima 1945. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These were also two of the worst regimes that have ever ruled any >>>>>>>> significant >>>>>>>> part of the planet. Exposing that and the total loss of the war >>>>>>>> made the >>>>>>>> reconstruction easier. But it took a decade or more for each of >>>>>>>> them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is a good point. The one terrible regime that wasn't >>>>>>> destroyed was >>>>>>> communist Russisa, and they haven't been able to get things >>>>>>> straightened >>>>>>> out yet. They're basically back to where they were in Czarist >>>>>>> days in >>>>>>> terms of politics and economics. >>>>>> >>>>>> What, you mean that workers belong to the land and get sold with it? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I mean that the industry is owned by a very few rich people who got >>>>> that >>>>> way thru political connections rather than any particular competence. >>>> >>>> And where did that industry come from? >>>> >>>> >>> The current Russian leadership inherited/took over the industry left >>> by the communists >> >> That mangles the real story of where they ended up. >> >>> and oil wells built by the West. >> >> The oil wells weren't built by the West. > > BP is a western company. It drilled oil wells in Russia after the Wall > came down. They have ended under Russian Government control. In fact fuck all of the oil wells in russia were done by BP.
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| From | "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-04 05:39 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dmd9qqF8h24U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #161913 |
"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message news:fm38tc-m65.ln1@sambook.reistad.name... > In article <dmd33sF6p00U1@mid.individual.net>, > Thomas Johns <TJzz@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message >>news:MPG.316b08738c44217098a06c@news.eternal-september.org... >>> In article <qvo7tc-jo3.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>, >>> first@last.name.invalid says... >>>> >>>> In article <MPG.316aec36238593ed98a06a@news.eternal-september.org>, >>>> J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >In article <74c6d653-7e69-4da0-9ae0-1d764b7d8ea0@googlegroups.com>, >>>> >jsavard@ecn.ab.ca says... >>>> >> >>>> >> On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 5:40:40 AM UTC-6, J. Clarke wrote: >>>> >> >>> >>> The boss may always be right >> >>Not in the US system if he can't convince Congress >>to do something the way he wants it done. >> >>> (Obama seems to think that he is always right too) >> >>But doesn't get to force the country to do what he decides is right >>on anything at all, not even with what the military does invasion wise. >> >>> but can he fail of re-election? Putin is not "president for >>> life" or any such. >> >>But does decide how things are done regardless >>of which role he technically holds at the time. > > And if/when he dies there are lots of oligarchs that are ready > to take over. This will probably be bloody, but swift. I don’t make predictions like that anymore. I used to make the same predictions about south american military dictatorships, but they did eventually get their act into gear and don’t have very many at all anymore for some reason. > I do not have faith in Russia's current rulers handing over > power peacefully. Yes, Putin clearly didn’t do anything like that when his time as president expired. Which is one of the acid tests on a > democracy. They don’t have anything like a real democracy. Even Taiwan only got something like that quite recently and Singapore still hasn’t got anything like that even tho they do have elections periodically. China doesn’t bother with any at all. >>He has this term and another one and then he has to >>> sit it out for six years. >> >>Or be Pres again. >> >>> As for the Chinese, I know the high school version of it and I know that >>> most of what I learned about politics in high school is crap. Maybe Xi >>> is an absolute dictator, maybe he isn't. >> >>It's the communist party that is the dictator in China. >> >>It was in Russia too towards the end. >> >>> If he is he seems to be doing >>> a good job for everybody involved. >> >>That just means that the communist party is >>currently a quite effective dictator. So is Putin. > > Amen. > >>>> Or Viet Nam. Remember that one? >>> >>> The current US military would be quite adequate to handle Viet Nam. >> >>It would fail in precisely the same way it failed there last time. > > The defeat there was not primarily by the military, it was the civil > society that cut support for the war, and the US military cannot fight > one for long without civilian support. Vietnam was always a civil war and the participants in those never give up until one side prevails. Which side some external country supports for a while generally has nothing to do with who eventually prevails. >>It has done even worse in Iraq and Afghanistan than it did in Vietnam. >> >>> The notion that it was the result of failure of the military is popular >>> but >>> not in accordance with the fact. >> >>The fact is that the US failed to get to decide how things were done >>there and the side it supported in that civil war lost that civil war. >> >>> Even the general commanding the North Vietnamese >>> forces admits that when the US pulled out, he was beaten. >> >>But the US pulled out anyway, essentially because the voters >>were sick of the involvement of the US in that civil war and >>couldn't see any point in that. > > Amen. > >>> The usual rejoinder to this is "but they still have the country". This >>> is true, but the reason is that when the US pulled out it created a >>> power vacuum that the North Vietnamese were able to fill. >> >>The real reason is that it was always a civil war >>and the US backed the side that lost that civil war. >> >>> In other words, Nixon pulled defeat out of the jaws of victory. >> >>There never would have been any 'victory' for the US if >>he hadn't. The civil war would have continued anyway. >> >>> It's kind of like beating the crap out of the >>> school bully, then giving him your lunch money. >> >>Nothing like in fact. The US never gave >>Vietnam anything once it gave up there. >> >>> However garrisoning an occupied state is a different task from >>> conquering it in the first place, and that is the thing that the US is >>> still having trouble with. >> >>But didn't with Germany and Japan. > > Germany and Japan were not just defeated. Their military were literally > obliterated. Yes, but so was Iraq's. Didn’t help any in fact that made the problem much worse. > Look at pictures of Berlin or Hiroshima 1945. Yes, both Germany and Japan were defeated much more dramatically than either Iraq or Afghanistan, but there was also a completely different mentality involved too. With Iraq, there were a hell of a lot of Iraqis who, once Saddam had become irrelevant, essentially said to the invaders, 'thanks for that, now bugger off out of our country RIGHT NOW', and then proceeded to furiously rip each others throats out in absolutely classic religious sectarian warfare. Nothing like that ever happen with Germany and Japan. > These were also two of the worst regimes that > have ever ruled any significant part of the planet. Just as true of Saddam and the Taliban. > Exposing that and the total loss of the > war made the reconstruction easier. You can make a solid case that it was the Marshall Plan that made the real difference, particularly when you compare that with how Germany was treated after WW1. > But it took a decade or more for each of them. Only for the reconstruction, not for a cesses ion of hostilities. You didn’t see much guerrilla activity at all after the ceasefire in either case. Completely different with Iraq and Afghanistan.
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| From | Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-04 04:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <0qydnZgnoM30fJzKnZ2dnUU78avNnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #161922 |
On 03/04/2016 20:39, Thomas Johns wrote:
{snip}
> I don’t make predictions like that anymore. I used
> to make the same predictions about south american
> military dictatorships, but they did eventually get
> their act into gear and don’t have very many at all
> anymore for some reason.
The South Americans discovered.
The General (military dictator) was tough.
Margaret Thatcher (elected woman) tougher.
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-03 10:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87wpoeful6.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #161877 |
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > In other words, Nixon pulled defeat out of the jaws of victory. It's > kind of like beating the crap out of the school bully, then giving him > your lunch money. > > However garrisoning an occupied state is a different task from > conquering it in the first place, and that is the thing that the US is > still having trouble with. remember it was Nixon that committed treason by convincing North Vietnam to skip paris peace talks until after presidential elections. Nixon wasn't in the war to win ... he was totally focused on winning american votes (he couldn't have the party of the existing president taking credit for ending the war). George Will Confirms Nixon's Vietnam Treason http://www.commondreams.org/views/2014/08/12/george-will-confirms-nixons-vietnam-treason Nixon betrayal far worse than GOP Iran letter; Republican nominee sabotaged Vietnam peace talks before he was elected president. http://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2015/03/10/senators-letter-doesnt-rise-to-nixons-level/24695093/ The Lyndon Johnson tapes: Richard Nixon's 'treason' http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-21768668 How Richard Nixon Sabotaged 1968 Vietnam Peace Talks to Get Elected President http://www.truth-out.org/progressivepicks/item/13994-how-richard-nixon-sabotaged-1968-vietnam-peace-talks-to-get-elected-president and recent reference to more Nixon illegal activity http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#39 Qbasic slightly related http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#27 Qbasic where Presidential Records Act of 1978 was passed in the wake of the Nixon fraud and scandals requiring release of presidential records no later than 12yrs after leaving office. The presidential records from the 80s were due to release in early part of this century (including things like Iran-Contra). However the president signed executive order keeping them classified (which would have included activity of his father who was VP at the time). -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-04 17:40 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <89df12b5-8a7c-4a0e-ac0e-9de2d240cc9d@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #161898 |
On Sunday, April 3, 2016 at 1:52:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > remember it was Nixon that committed treason by convincing North Vietnam > to skip paris peace talks until after presidential elections. Nixon > wasn't in the war to win ... he was totally focused on winning american > votes (he couldn't have the party of the existing president taking > credit for ending the war). Johnson was no better. He knew damn well the war wasn't winnable and the bombing accomplished nothing, yet he sent massive troops over to be killed for nothing, as well as destroying the economy of the country to pay for it. Indeed, Kennedy bares some of the blame too, and even Eisenhower; they all supported a stupid war.
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-04 19:04 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87r3ekx13d.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #162072 |
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes: > Johnson was no better. He knew damn well the war wasn't winnable > and the bombing accomplished nothing, yet he sent massive troops > over to be killed for nothing, as well as destroying the economy > of the country to pay for it. > > Indeed, Kennedy bares some of the blame too, and even Eisenhower; > they all supported a stupid war. re: http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#68 Qbasic it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and commited treason as Nixon did. Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. In the 2003 documentary The Fog of War, McNamara recalled the firebombing of Tokyo on March 9, 1945: "In that single night, we burned to death a hundred thousand Japanese civilians in Tokyo--men, women, and children." After the war, General LeMay said to McNamara: "If we'd lost the war we'd all have been prosecuted as war criminals." passed posts mentioning LeMay: http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#67 Downwind from Alamogordo http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#13 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#76 Your earliest dream? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#52 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#81 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#33 The wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were lost before they began, not on the battlefields http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#60 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-) -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-05 12:57 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <730cbdcc-db4c-4933-b6a5-77a2f1913814@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #162088 |
On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:04:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and > commited treason as Nixon did. In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly lied to the American people and congress about the actual and projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and derailing support for his Great Society programs. McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be discussed. If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. > Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was > LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and > then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. Apparently, firebombing was an allowable tactic (the Axis powers certainly utilized it). Further, these tactics were no secret during the war.
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-05 13:43 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87pou34wi6.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #162154 |
hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes: > In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly > lied to the American people and congress about the actual and > projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ > deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and > derailing support for his Great Society programs. > > McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. > > Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only > 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital > questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be > discussed. > > If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. re: http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#68 Qbasic http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#73 Qbasic Nixon was guilty of treason as a private person (before the election) negotiating with North Vietnam ... he didn't want the then, current administration getting credit for ending the war. He then broke other laws that eventually led to his resignation. It is not clear that lying to American public is either treason or a criminal offense ... especially by the president ... it happened in the iran/iraq war, the iran-contra affair, and both Iraq1 and Iraq2. President may have immunity for lying to congress?? Of course presidents lie http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/24/politics/presidents-lie/ Presidential Lies and Consequences http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1998/10/presidential-lies-and-consequences this implies some ambiquity in the dealings between the presidential/executive branch and congress/legislative branch https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress Under that ruling, Courts generally do not hear motions to quash Congressional subpoenas; even when executive branch officials refuse to comply, the Courts tend to rule that such matters are "political questions" unsuitable for judicial remedy. ... snip ... -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-06 07:38 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dmipj8FkiuhU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #162159 |
"Anne & Lynn Wheeler" <lynn@garlic.com> wrote in message news:87pou34wi6.fsf@garlic.com... > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes: >> In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly >> lied to the American people and congress about the actual and >> projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ >> deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and >> derailing support for his Great Society programs. >> >> McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. >> >> Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only >> 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital >> questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be >> discussed. >> >> If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. > > re: > http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#68 Qbasic > http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#73 Qbasic > > Nixon was guilty of treason as a private person (before the election) > negotiating with North Vietnam ... he didn't want the then, current > administration getting credit for ending the war. He then broke other > laws that eventually led to his resignation. > > It is not clear that lying to American public is either treason or a > criminal offense ... especially by the president ... it happened in the > iran/iraq war, the iran-contra affair, and both Iraq1 and Iraq2. > President may have immunity for lying to congress?? No he does not. > Of course presidents lie > http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/24/politics/presidents-lie/ > Presidential Lies and Consequences > http://www.motherjones.com/politics/1998/10/presidential-lies-and-consequences > > this implies some ambiquity in the dealings between the > presidential/executive branch and congress/legislative branch > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contempt_of_Congress > > Under that ruling, Courts generally do not hear motions to quash > Congressional subpoenas; even when executive branch officials refuse to > comply, the Courts tend to rule that such matters are "political > questions" unsuitable for judicial remedy.
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| From | Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-11 17:24 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <proto-AF87F2.17243611042016@news.panix.com> |
| In reply to | #162154 |
In article <730cbdcc-db4c-4933-b6a5-77a2f1913814@googlegroups.com>, hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:04:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > > > it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and > > commited treason as Nixon did. > > In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly > lied to the American people and congress about the actual and > projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ > deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and > derailing support for his Great Society programs. > > McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. > > Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only > 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital > questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be > discussed. > > If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. > > > > Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was > > LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and > > then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. > > Apparently, firebombing was an allowable tactic (the Axis powers > certainly utilized it). Further, these tactics were no secret during > the war. If firebombing cities is allowable, why not nukes.?! ^S We did more damage to Japan with firebombing than the nukes. -- To terrify children with the image of hell, to consider women an inferior creation is that good for the world? Christopher Hitchens
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| From | mausg@mail.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-12 11:45 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnngpnt2.191.mausg@Smaus.org> |
| In reply to | #162274 |
On 2016-04-11, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote: > In article <730cbdcc-db4c-4933-b6a5-77a2f1913814@googlegroups.com>, > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > >> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:04:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >> >> > it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and >> > commited treason as Nixon did. >> >> In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly >> lied to the American people and congress about the actual and >> projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ >> deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and >> derailing support for his Great Society programs. >> >> McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. >> >> Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only >> 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital >> questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be >> discussed. >> >> If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. >> >> >> > Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was >> > LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and >> > then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. >> >> Apparently, firebombing was an allowable tactic (the Axis powers >> certainly utilized it). at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. > Further, these tactics were no secret during >> the war. > > If firebombing cities is allowable, why not nukes.?! ^S > We did more damage to Japan with firebombing than the > nukes. > -- greymaus iD|marrA Raa|fLa
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| From | Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-12 13:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <CtSdnfMEmayCc5HKnZ2dnUU78TednZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #162309 |
On 12/04/2016 12:45, mausg@mail.com wrote: > On 2016-04-11, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote: >> In article <730cbdcc-db4c-4933-b6a5-77a2f1913814@googlegroups.com>, >> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >> >>> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:04:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >>> >>>> it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and >>>> commited treason as Nixon did. >>> >>> In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly >>> lied to the American people and congress about the actual and >>> projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ >>> deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and >>> derailing support for his Great Society programs. >>> >>> McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. >>> >>> Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only >>> 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital >>> questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be >>> discussed. >>> >>> If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. >>> >>> >>>> Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was >>>> LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and >>>> then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. >>> >>> Apparently, firebombing was an allowable tactic (the Axis powers >>> certainly utilized it). > > at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance > of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. > > >> Further, these tactics were no secret during >>> the war. >> >> If firebombing cities is allowable, why not nukes.?! ^S >> We did more damage to Japan with firebombing than the >> nukes. >> > > Coventry, London and Dover were heavy bombed.
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-04-12 16:50 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <6ievtc-pi4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #162320 |
In article <CtSdnfMEmayCc5HKnZ2dnUU78TednZ2d@giganews.com>, Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> wrote: >On 12/04/2016 12:45, mausg@mail.com wrote: >> On 2016-04-11, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote: >>> In article <730cbdcc-db4c-4933-b6a5-77a2f1913814@googlegroups.com>, >>> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:04:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: >>>> >>>>> it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and >>>>> commited treason as Nixon did. >>>> >>>> In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly >>>> lied to the American people and congress about the actual and >>>> projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ >>>> deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and >>>> derailing support for his Great Society programs. >>>> >>>> McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. >>>> >>>> Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only >>>> 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital >>>> questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be >>>> discussed. >>>> >>>> If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was >>>>> LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and >>>>> then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. >>>> >>>> Apparently, firebombing was an allowable tactic (the Axis powers >>>> certainly utilized it). >> >> at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance >> of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. >> >> >>> Further, these tactics were no secret during >>>> the war. >>> >>> If firebombing cities is allowable, why not nukes.?! ^S >>> We did more damage to Japan with firebombing than the >>> nukes. >>> >> >> > >Coventry, London and Dover were heavy bombed. Not to anywhere hear the firebombing of Hamburg. But it had costs, nearly 1/3rd of the bomber fleet were rendered out of operations (damaged, shot down, lost) after this. But it took out around 1/5th of the industrial capacity of the Nazis (according to Mr Speer). The nukes used in Japan were early, very rare prototypes. 10 years later a 50 nuke attack would have destroyed 95+ of German cities and industrial capacity. -- mrr
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| From | "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-13 05:04 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <dn4v68F8r2eU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #162320 |
"Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> wrote in message news:CtSdnfMEmayCc5HKnZ2dnUU78TednZ2d@giganews.com... > On 12/04/2016 12:45, mausg@mail.com wrote: >> On 2016-04-11, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote: >>> In article <730cbdcc-db4c-4933-b6a5-77a2f1913814@googlegroups.com>, >>> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >>> >>>> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:04:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and >>>>> commited treason as Nixon did. >>>> >>>> In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly >>>> lied to the American people and congress about the actual and >>>> projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ >>>> deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and >>>> derailing support for his Great Society programs. >>>> >>>> McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. >>>> >>>> Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only >>>> 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital >>>> questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be >>>> discussed. >>>> >>>> If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. >>>> >>>> >>>>> Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was >>>>> LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and >>>>> then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. >>>> >>>> Apparently, firebombing was an allowable tactic (the Axis powers >>>> certainly utilized it). >> >> at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance >> of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. >> >> >>> Further, these tactics were no secret during >>>> the war. >>> >>> If firebombing cities is allowable, why not nukes.?! ^S >>> We did more damage to Japan with firebombing than the >>> nukes. >>> >> >> > > Coventry, London and Dover were heavy bombed. But not firestorm bombed.
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-12 17:32 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.31773376c9f2511398a0c4@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #162335 |
In article <dn4v68F8r2eU1@mid.individual.net>, 3899jk@gmail.com says... > > "Andrew Swallow" <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> wrote in message > news:CtSdnfMEmayCc5HKnZ2dnUU78TednZ2d@giganews.com... > > On 12/04/2016 12:45, mausg@mail.com wrote: > >> On 2016-04-11, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote: > >>> In article <730cbdcc-db4c-4933-b6a5-77a2f1913814@googlegroups.com>, > >>> hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > >>> > >>>> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:04:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler > >>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and > >>>>> commited treason as Nixon did. > >>>> > >>>> In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly > >>>> lied to the American people and congress about the actual and > >>>> projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ > >>>> deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and > >>>> derailing support for his Great Society programs. > >>>> > >>>> McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. > >>>> > >>>> Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only > >>>> 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital > >>>> questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be > >>>> discussed. > >>>> > >>>> If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was > >>>>> LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and > >>>>> then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. > >>>> > >>>> Apparently, firebombing was an allowable tactic (the Axis powers > >>>> certainly utilized it). > >> > >> at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance > >> of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. > >> > >> > >>> Further, these tactics were no secret during > >>>> the war. > >>> > >>> If firebombing cities is allowable, why not nukes.?! ^S > >>> We did more damage to Japan with firebombing than the > >>> nukes. > >>> > >> > >> > > > > Coventry, London and Dover were heavy bombed. > > But not firestorm bombed. Note that the Firestorm was a specific technique that required both the correct weather conditions and the correct composition in the target. It was not something that could be repeated reliably in Europe, although with larger aircraft and more favorable construction it did seem to work well in Japan.
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| From | "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-12 17:30 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.31773308c9e2dbf398a0c3@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #162309 |
In article <slrnngpnt2.191.mausg@Smaus.org>, mausg@mail.com says... > > On 2016-04-11, Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> wrote: > > In article <730cbdcc-db4c-4933-b6a5-77a2f1913814@googlegroups.com>, > > hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > > > >> On Monday, April 4, 2016 at 10:04:41 PM UTC-4, Anne & Lynn Wheeler wrote: > >> > >> > it is not clear that Kennedy and Johnson actually broke the law and > >> > commited treason as Nixon did. > >> > >> In Doris Kerns book on LBJ, she documents where Johnson blatantly > >> lied to the American people and congress about the actual and > >> projected financial and human cost of the Vietnam War. LBJ > >> deliberately minimized it to avoid raising domestic concerns and > >> derailing support for his Great Society programs. > >> > >> McNamera also blatantly lied, and his generals were lying to him. > >> > >> Both LBJ and McNamera created a 'no dissent' atmosphere; only > >> 'yes men' were tolerated on their staff. This suppressed vital > >> questions about the screwups of the war that needed to be > >> discussed. > >> > >> If Nixon was guilty of treason, so was LBJ and McNamera. > >> > >> > >> > Kennedy and Johnsond had McNamara as SECDEF. In WW2, McNamara was > >> > LeMay's staff that planned fire bombing half dozen German cities and > >> > then planning fire bombing of 67 Japanese cities. > >> > >> Apparently, firebombing was an allowable tactic (the Axis powers > >> certainly utilized it). > > at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance > of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. There isn't one because neither ever had the means to do so. The German bomber force was pathetic compared to the RAF or the Army Air Corps and the idea of strategic bombing doesn't appear to have ever occurred to the Japanese, possibly because there were no enemy centers of industry within range of any aircraft in their inventory or any that they could reasonable expect their industry to produce.
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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-12 17:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87egaaidi7.fsf@garlic.com> |
| In reply to | #162352 |
"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> writes: > There isn't one because neither ever had the means to do so. The German > bomber force was pathetic compared to the RAF or the Army Air Corps and > the idea of strategic bombing doesn't appear to have ever occurred to > the Japanese, possibly because there were no enemy centers of industry > within range of any aircraft in their inventory or any that they could > reasonable expect their industry to produce. John Foster Dulles played major role in rebuilding german economy and military. When the 1943 US strategic bombing program needed German industrial and military locations, it got detailed target information and plans from wallstreet. It turns out that it had to use large number of bombs before it had any probability of hitting the target (from 5-6 miles up) even with Norden bombsights. Fire bombing cities was lot harder to miss. Also at the start of strategic bombing program, US was claiming that they didn't need any long range fighter escort ... all the money would go to building strategic bombers ... the british repeatedly told the US that the Germans had already learned that lesson in the "Battle for Britain" ... but the US insisted on learning the lesson the hard way. Move on to Japan, part of firebombing cities was that they didn't have the industrial & military locations targets (that they had gotten for Germany from wallstreet). strategic bombing also didn't work at all on Omaha Beach, THE EUROPEAN CAMPAIGN:ITS ORIGINS AND CONDUCT, free pdf, ebook formats: http://www.strategicstudiesinstitute.army.mil/pubs/display.cfm?PubID=1075 loc2582-85: The bomber preparation of Omaha Beach was a total failure, and German defenses on Omaha Beach were intact as American troops came ashore. At Utah Beach, the bombers were a little more effective because the IXth Bomber Command was using B-26 medium bombers. Wisely, in preparation for supporting the invasion, maintenance crews removed Norden bombsights from the bombers and installed the more effective low-level altitude sights.54 ... snip ... military industrial complex http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#military.industrial.complex past references: http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011g.html#10 America's Defense Meltdown http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2011o.html#67 Downwind from Alamogordo http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2012i.html#62 Early use of the word "computer" http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2013f.html#18 Air Superiority: Advantage over enemy skies for 60 years http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014.html#67 Royal Pardon For Turing http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014b.html#54 Royal Pardon For Turing http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014f.html#73 Is end of mainframe near ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#90 Friden Flexowriter equipment series http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#91 Friden Flexowriter equipment series http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014h.html#92 Off topic screeds (was Re: Friden Flexowriter equipment series) http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014k.html#12 1950: Northrop's Digital Differential Analyzer http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2014m.html#40 LEO http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#13 LEO http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#52 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#53 IBM Data Processing Center and Pi http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#68 Why do we have wars? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#69 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#77 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#79 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#82 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015b.html#83 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#0 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#13 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#20 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#28 Kill Chain: The Rise of High Tech Assassins http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#61 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#62 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#63 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#64 past of nukes, was Future of support for telephone rotary dial ? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#70 God No, the U.S. Air Force Doesn't Need Another Curtis LeMay http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#76 Your earliest dream? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#89 Your earliest dream? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#13 Fully Restored WWII Fighter Plane Up for Auction http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015d.html#37 End of vacuum tubes in computers? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#42 No, the F-35 Can't Fight at Long Range, Either http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#52 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#54 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#77 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#81 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#87 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#55 1973--TI 8 digit electric calculator--$99.95 http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#63 [Poll] Computing favorities http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#33 The wars in Vietnam, Iraq, and Afghanistan were lost before they began, not on the battlefields http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#119 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-) http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#120 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-) http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#3 I Feel Old http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#31 I Feel Old http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#57 Shout out to Grace Hopper (State of the Union) http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016.html#60 For those who like to regress to their youth? :-) http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#10 What Will the Next A-10 Warthog Look Like? http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016b.html#49 Corporate malfeasance http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#64 Isolationism and War Profiteering http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#73 Qbasic http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#75 Qbasic -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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| From | hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com |
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| Date | 2016-04-13 13:18 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <8346db34-9b5d-4a31-b3ac-d0ab0aafd358@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #162309 |
On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 7:45:03 AM UTC-4, ma...@mail.com wrote: > at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance > of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. I think British and Chinese cities were firebombed. I think the facists did some nasty things in the Spanish civil war.
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| From | JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-04-13 17:36 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qeitgblvepj4ok1uvmq1qf3orj1ldcak9v@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #162403 |
On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:18:14 -0700 (PDT), hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: >On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 7:45:03 AM UTC-4, ma...@mail.com wrote: > > >> at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance >> of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. > >I think British and Chinese cities were firebombed. I think the >facists did some nasty things in the Spanish civil war. Guernica, Spain -- JimP.
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| From | Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-04-14 16:07 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <qpk4uc-hmb.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> |
| In reply to | #162415 |
In article <qeitgblvepj4ok1uvmq1qf3orj1ldcak9v@4ax.com>, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote: >On Wed, 13 Apr 2016 13:18:14 -0700 (PDT), hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com wrote: > >>On Tuesday, April 12, 2016 at 7:45:03 AM UTC-4, ma...@mail.com wrote: >> >> >>> at the awful risk of defending the nazis, Cound you supplu an instance >>> of Germany or Japan firebombing, to the scale of Hamburg or Dresden?. >> >>I think British and Chinese cities were firebombed. I think the >>facists did some nasty things in the Spanish civil war. > >Guernica, Spain Not quite firebombing. Firebombing means you make a flame front that engulfs entire quarters, if not entire cities. First done on a larger scale by the allies against Hamburg during WW2. -- mrr
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