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  Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-09-06 11:08 -0300
    Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Johann 'Myrkraverk' Oskarsson <johann@myrkraverk.invalid> - 2026-09-06 23:14 +0800
      Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Tapiro Ubriaco <interwebs.dude@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 09:31 +0000
        Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-21 16:02 +0000
          Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 12:28 -0400
          Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-09-22 12:06 -0300
            Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2026-09-22 17:00 +0000
              Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bringquantum te "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-mtt-this> - 2026-09-24 07:44 -0700
                Re: Usenet history Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-24 23:30 +0000
        Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 12:22 -0400
        Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-09-21 20:53 +0200
      Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-09-22 12:05 -0300
    Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> - 2026-09-06 08:20 -0700
    Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-06 20:09 +0200
      Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Tapiro Ubriaco <interwebs.dude@gmail.com> - 2026-09-21 09:33 +0000
        Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Jeroen Belleman <jeroen@nospam.please> - 2026-09-21 15:28 +0200
          Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Chris Abraham <chris@gerriscorp.com> - 2026-09-21 12:27 -0400
            Re: Usenet history Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-22 00:39 +0000
              Re: Usenet history Joed Oakes <lost@noway.home.invalid> - 2026-09-22 10:35 -0400
                Re: Usenet history drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2026-09-22 16:27 +0000
              Re: Usenet history Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2026-09-22 07:16 -1000
                Re: Usenet history Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-09-22 21:00 +0000
                Re: Usenet history Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2026-09-22 13:15 -1000
        Re: Usent history (was Re: This tiny gold crystal could bring quantum technology out of the deep freeze) Anton Antimo <anton@safunu.org> - 2026-09-22 12:44 -0300

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#235686 — Re: Usenet history

Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> Anybody remember CoSy, from the 1980s? From the University of Guelph?
> BYTE magazine were using it for their online forums.

Aug1976, TYMSHARE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare
start offering their VM370/CMS-based computer conferencing system free
to the IBM mainframe users group, SHARE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHARE_(computing)

archives here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

I had cut a deal with TYMSHARE to get monthly tape dump of all VMSHARE
files for putting up on IBM internal systems and network. Later when MD
bought TYMSHARE, the SHARE organization had to come up with a way of
rehosting the service.

-- 
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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#235688 — Re: Usenet history

On Tue, 22 Sep 2026 07:16:38 -1000, Lynn Wheeler wrote:

> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>
>> Anybody remember CoSy, from the 1980s? From the University of
>> Guelph? BYTE magazine were using it for their online forums.
>
> Aug1976, TYMSHARE
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare
> start offering their VM370/CMS-based computer conferencing system free
> to the IBM mainframe users group, SHARE

How did it compare to CoSy?

Knowing IBM, it was probably pretty clunky to use ...

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#235689 — Re: Usenet history

Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes:
> Aug1976, TYMSHARE
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare
> start offering their VM370/CMS-based computer conferencing system free
> to the IBM mainframe users group, SHARE
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHARE_(computing)
>
> archives here:
> http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare


TYMSHARE beginnings:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare#Beginnings

Other TYMSHARE:

Ann Hardy
https://medium.com/chmcore/someone-elses-computer-the-prehistory-of-cloud-computing-bca25645f89

Ann Hardy is a crucial figure in the story of Tymshare and
time-sharing. She began programming in the 1950s, developing software
for the IBM Stretch supercomputer. Frustrated at the lack of opportunity
and pay inequality for women at IBM -- at one point she discovered she
was paid less than half of what the lowest-paid man reporting to her was
paid -- Hardy left to study at the University of California, Berkeley,
and then joined the Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in 1962. At
the lab, one of her projects involved an early and surprisingly
successful time-sharing operating system.

Ann Hardy at Computer History Museum
https://www.computerhistory.org/collections/catalog/102717167

Ann rose up to become Vice President of the Integrated Systems Division
at Tymshare, from 1976 to 1984, which did online airline reservations,
home banking, and other applications. When Tymshare was acquired by
McDonnell-Douglas in 1984, Ann's position as a female VP became
untenable, and was eased out of the company by being encouraged to spin
out Gnosis, a secure, capabilities-based operating system developed at
Tymshare. Ann founded Key Logic, with funding from Gene Amdahl, which
produced KeyKOS, based on Gnosis, for IBM and Amdahl mainframes. After
closing Key Logic, Ann became a consultant, leading to her cofounding
Agorics with members of Ted Nelson's Xanadu project

... snip ...

... trivia: 1984, I was brought in to do the evaluation of Gnosis as
part of the spin-off

GNOSIS: A Prototype Operating System for the 1990's
http://cap-lore.com/CapTheory/upenn/Gnosis/Gnosis.html

-- 
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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#235683

Tapiro Ubriaco <interwebs.dude@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, 6 Sep 2026 20:09:05 +0200, Jeroen Belleman wrote:
>
>
>> Usenet people *were* polite and benevolent in those days. It didn't last
>> very long, is true. Even 'rn' had a kill file.
>
> Have you tried, at least once, Facebook?
>
> And I'm not suggesting that you do.
>
> Just that if you'd made that mistake, your scale for "polite and 
> benevolent" would end up readjusted in a way that would make the most 
> toxic newsgroup look like tea with the Queen of England :-) 

Funny---I would think otherwise.  I'd think the anonymity of USENET is
(on average) what allows for the rudeness, but what do I know?

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