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Too much for one lifetime? :-)

Started bygareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
First post2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
Last post2021-02-24 05:32 -0800
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  Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 20:21 +0000
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "A.T. Murray" <mentificium@gmail.com> - 2021-01-13 12:39 -0800
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-13 20:59 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) bert <bert.hutchings@btinternet.com> - 2021-01-13 13:16 -0800
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:18 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 11:45 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-14 10:06 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:16 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Radey Shouman <shouman@comcast.net> - 2021-01-14 15:04 -0500
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 10:16 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 14:56 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 15:42 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 17:12 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 18:43 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-14 19:50 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-14 21:38 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 18:54 -0500
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-15 00:11 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-15 01:00 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 23:32 -0500
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-15 21:56 -0500
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-14 16:00 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-14 14:07 -0500
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 21:20 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-14 18:01 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-14 23:41 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-15 02:21 -0400
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 11:00 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 11:59 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-17 17:44 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-17 19:10 +0000
                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 11:42 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-18 12:29 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-18 10:23 -0500
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-18 12:12 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-18 09:17 -0600
                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:07 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:14 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-19 10:21 +0000
                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 11:17 +0000
                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-19 12:13 -0600
                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 21:39 +0000
                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-19 18:08 -0500
                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-20 04:22 -0600
                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-21 07:44 +0000
                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-22 17:49 -0700
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-23 15:24 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-23 20:24 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-24 12:49 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-24 13:13 +0000
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-24 22:30 -0500
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 07:00 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 21:56 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:28 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 09:35 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:51 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 04:41 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:03 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 07:03 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 09:50 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:34 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:29 -0600
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:53 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Walker <anw@cuboid.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 19:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 20:41 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2021-01-27 13:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:39 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 17:39 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:51 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-30 09:56 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 15:46 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 17:52 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-25 18:30 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-25 18:37 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-25 19:33 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 01:37 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:58 -0500
                                                      Re: just in case, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 18:57 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:14 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:59 +0100
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:22 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 18:09 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:31 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:19 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:27 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:22 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:34 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:48 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-25 19:42 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-25 15:45 -0600
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 19:20 +0000
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Joacim Melin <Joacim.Melin@f1.n221.z2.fidonet.fi> - 2021-01-25 20:33 +0200
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:12 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 03:47 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-26 16:42 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 22:11 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-27 08:36 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:52 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-29 23:19 +0200
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 21:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 22:19 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:48 +0100
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-30 17:26 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-30 20:06 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-30 14:38 -0600
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:47 -0400
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:50 -0600
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:14 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 15:55 -0500
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 20:13 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 09:48 -0600
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:44 -0400
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 00:55 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 01:33 -0400
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 13:05 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 12:29 -0500
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:17 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:42 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-27 22:21 -0400
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 16:40 +0100
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-30 16:04 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 16:06 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-31 21:35 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-01 16:54 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-02-01 09:54 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-01 18:12 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-25 16:02 -0700
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-26 01:47 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:23 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 09:42 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 10:16 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:21 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 11:01 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:23 -0500
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-25 22:35 -0500
                                                Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 04:15 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-25 23:32 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2021-01-26 04:58 -0800
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-26 13:18 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:55 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 05:12 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 11:59 +0100
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:58 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-26 15:10 +0100
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 19:07 -0400
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:59 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-27 07:44 +0100
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:54 -0500
                                                            Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:20 +0000
                                                              Re: Learning European languages Stefan Möding <Jan2021.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2021-01-28 11:06 +0100
                                                                Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 08:42 -0500
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 15:26 +0000
                                                                    Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages lawrence <lawrence@cluon.com> - 2021-01-28 12:54 -0600
                                                                        Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:06 +0000
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 20:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:45 -0500
                                                                    Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-20 18:22 +0100
                                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-20 13:12 -0500
                                                                        Re: Learning European languages Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-21 15:36 +0100
                                                                          Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-21 17:49 -0500
                                                                Re: Learning European languages Fred Smith <fred@thejanitor.corp> - 2021-01-29 01:47 +0000
                                                                  Re: Learning European languages Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2021-01-31 18:09 +0200
                                                              Re: Learning European languages Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 10:27 +0000
                                                              Re: Learning European languages gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 11:31 +0000
                                                                Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:50 -0500
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-26 13:56 +0000
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-26 22:23 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 23:15 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-27 00:06 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:58 -0600
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 12:17 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 16:03 -0500
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
                                                            Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 23:06 -0400
                                                              Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
                                                                Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:34 -0400
                                                                Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:58 -0500
                                                                  Re: Email is collective (Was: Learning European languages) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-30 15:46 -0700
                                                            Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 23:30 -0500
                                                        Re: Learning European languages J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:24 -0500
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 23:00 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:12 +0000
                                                        Re: Learning European languages Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-28 22:44 -0400
                                                          Re: Learning European languages Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 20:01 -0500
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 19:48 +0000
                                                    Re: Learning European languages Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Learning European languages Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-01-31 20:02 +0000
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 12:03 -0600
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-26 18:34 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) jolomo@gmail.com (Joe Morris) - 2021-01-26 19:17 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:46 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:26 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:35 +0000
                                                          Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                            Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-27 20:46 -0500
                                                            Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:10 +0000
                                                              Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:04 -0600
                                                              Re: Obligatory thread drift (was Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-)) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-28 18:47 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 16:16 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:25 -0400
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:46 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-01-27 17:49 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:41 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:47 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 09:12 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 12:30 -0600
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-28 15:52 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:57 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 13:43 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-26 20:49 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-26 18:31 -0400
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2021-01-27 00:10 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 19:34 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:01 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:31 -0500
                                                        Re: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-28 19:13 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-26 14:05 -0600
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-01-26 16:34 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-29 17:57 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-01-29 19:55 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-30 04:58 -0500
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 21:56 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-27 11:32 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 12:24 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-27 13:11 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-01-29 04:05 -0600
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-29 16:45 -0400
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 10:55 -0600
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-27 18:21 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 19:45 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-27 16:00 -0500
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-01-28 00:13 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-27 19:00 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-28 00:43 -0500
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-28 10:10 -0600
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2021-01-28 16:19 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-28 14:37 -0500
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-28 20:31 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-28 14:20 -0700
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-28 22:15 +0000
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:16 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 12:18 +0000
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:08 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2021-01-29 10:21 -0600
                                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-29 17:04 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-29 17:15 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-29 17:14 +0000
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-29 11:58 -0700
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-01-29 14:38 -0600
                                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-29 21:02 +0000
                                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 14:09 -0600
                                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-01-31 00:09 +0000
                                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-01-30 20:27 -0600
                                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-31 05:35 +0000
                                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-01-31 01:37 -0500
                                                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-26 12:06 -0700
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2021-01-26 21:18 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-26 21:57 +0000
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-01-26 22:38 -0500
                                                    Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-01-27 04:27 +0000
                                                      Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-01-27 06:42 +0000
                                                        Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-01-27 18:45 +0000
                                                          Re: life in Switzerland, Too much for one lifetime? :-) Juergen Nieveler <juergen.nieveler.nospam@arcor.de> - 2021-02-01 15:00 +0100
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-01-30 09:39 +0100
                                                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-02-26 14:22 -0800
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-02-26 22:40 +0000
                                                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-26 23:28 +0000
                                                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-02-27 10:43 +0000
                                                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:22 -0500
                                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-28 20:59 +0000
                                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-28 22:50 -0500
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-26 08:09 +0000
                                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2021-02-02 02:02 +0100
                                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2021-02-02 04:38 -0600
                                              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 11:20 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-18 17:16 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-19 10:04 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-01-19 17:58 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2021-01-17 22:47 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-13 22:12 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Daniel <me@sci.fidan.com> - 2021-02-23 22:04 -0800
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-24 09:27 -0700
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-24 17:33 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 19:23 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 00:05 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 12:51 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-24 17:23 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 15:45 -0600
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-25 05:03 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-25 09:59 -0600
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-25 16:52 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2021-02-25 19:38 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-02-25 19:44 -0400
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-25 21:46 -0500
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-26 05:19 +0000
                      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:59 +0000
                        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-26 20:53 -0500
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-27 10:51 +0000
                            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-27 11:19 +0000
                          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-02-27 10:17 -0500
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:28 -0700
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-26 13:52 -0600
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-02-26 10:53 -1000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-25 18:29 -0700
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-26 12:56 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:27 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-09-29 17:34 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 13:32 -0500
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:50 -0400
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 10:10 -0500
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 19:54 +0100
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:48 -0400
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:51 -0400
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:03 -0400
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:33 -0400
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:56 +0000
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) "robertth...@googlemail.com" <robertthebilling@googlemail.com> - 2021-01-31 05:32 -0800
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 15:58 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 21:27 +0000
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-01-31 22:11 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-01-31 22:50 +0000
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 14:08 +0000
                Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 17:49 +0000
                  Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 18:41 +0000
                    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) PeterP <petep@palindrome.invalid> - 2021-02-01 19:01 +0000
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-01-31 19:32 -0400
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 09:24 -0600
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-02-01 11:45 -0700
      Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> - 2021-02-01 21:34 +0000
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-01 18:19 -0500
          Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-02-02 04:26 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 01:13 -0500
              Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-02-02 06:50 +0000
            Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Charles Richmond <codescott@aquaporin4.com> - 2021-09-29 12:12 -0500
        Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-02-02 09:21 -0600
    Re: Too much for one lifetime? :-) Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com> - 2021-02-24 05:32 -0800

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#216573

FromJ. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-26 19:34 -0500
Message-ID<qrc11g57o73ab3o1hpglo5v4p1vfn77ot7@4ax.com>
In reply to#216548
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:06:30 -0700, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

>JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 22:35:07 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
>> <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>> On Mon, 25 Jan 2021 16:02:37 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>>>> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 17:49:09 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Has the EU solved the ?official language? problem yet? I read somewhere
>>>>>> that Gaelic is the official language of Ireland ( maybe co-equal  with
>>>>>> English?) and with BREXIT that left no EU member whose official language
>>>>>> was English, so it was no longer an official language of the EU. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is no language problem in the EU. English is and was the language
>>>>> of business and IT, and that is unlikely to change.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I heard that if you want to work in an office at Nestle in Switzerland
>>>>> speaking any of the four Swiss languages (German, French, Italian and
>>>>> Romansh, sorted by numbers of speakers) won't help. You need to speak
>>>>> English.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But if you want to have a "new official language" in the EU you might
>>>>> have to look at German. 
>>>> 
>>>> Somewhere I read that official EU documents have to be published in the
>>>> official language of each of the member states. If no country has English
>>>> as its official language then English is no longer required.
>>> 
>>> The EU has still a long way ahead to become one country. So documents are
>>> handled like in the past X hundred year inside of every country. That
>>> might be different in the European parliament. Am guessing here and
>>> assume they are issued in all languages of the members of the EU. Some
>>> countries, like Germany, Austria and parts of Switzerland can be
>>> eliminated because they speak German, while France and Italy take care
>>> of the French and Italian parts of Switzerland.
>>> 
>>> Then look at the United Nations HQ in New York. Suppose not everyone
>>> speaks English.
>>> 
>>>>> German speakers account for the largest group
>>>>> inside Europe. But that won't happen either. Everybody seems to be happy
>>>>> with English now. And German is much harder to learn than English, if you
>>>>> are from Spain, France, Italy or any other country with its own proper
>>>>> language.
>>>> 
>>>> Every country is jealous of its own language. The French would probably
>>>> never accept German, and vise-versa.
>>> 
>>> Yes, I agree.
>>> 
>>>> I would think English is a much harder language than German because of
>>>> its quixotic spelling and pronunciation.
>>> 
>>> I guess you're wrong here.
>>> 
>>> Anyone here not a native English speaker, who learned English and German,
>>> can tell what was harder to learn?
>>> 
>>>> Its only advantage is its ubiquity, so everyone has some exposure to
>>>> it. German is pronounced as it?s spelled.
>>> 
>>> With few exception, plus regional differences.
>>> 
>>>>> I don't think anybody wants to learn German or Gaelic in Europe.
>>>> 
>>>> I (sort of) learned German for a number of reasons. One of them is that
>>>> it?s the most widely-spoken language. I?d love to learn Gaelic, among
>>>> others, but I think 1-1/2 languages are about my limit.
>>> 
>>> German most widely spoken? I assume that is either Chinese (well they
>>> have different flavors), Hindu (they also have) or Spanish. Almost all
>>> countries of South America (Brazil might be one of the few exceptions)
>>> have Spanish as official language.
>>> 
>>> French might also have a large area outside mainland France. Many African
>>> countries for example.
>> 
>> In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
>> formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
>> I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
>> couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
>> speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
>> 
>> I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.
>> 
>
>You probably could, if you were in Madrid. Barcelona is in Catalonia, and
>Catalan is common, and  onsidered a separate language. I always thought US
>schools should teach Mexican Spanish.

I am reminded of a former coworker, a native speaker of Arabic,
telling of her travels.  She says that it's interesting to talk to
Muslims in places where Arabic is not the native language--many of
them learn to communicate in Arabic but it tends to be very formal.
She used the example of a Pakistani who every time he encountered her
gave her this long flowery greeting to which she would reply with the
equivalent of "Hey, 's up".

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#216582

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2021-01-26 22:01 -0500
Message-ID<87im7jcccl.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#216548
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:06:30 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>
> You probably could, if you were in Madrid. Barcelona is in Catalonia, and
> Catalan is common, and  onsidered a separate language.

Even names of some Catalan cities are spelled differently in Catalan and
Spanish.
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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#216588

FromJohn Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date2021-01-27 04:21 +0000
Message-ID<ruqpo2$2pf0$1@gal.iecc.com>
In reply to#216548
In article <2084667421.633380598.940468.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
Peter Flass  <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
>> formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
>> I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
>> couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
>> speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.

In Catalonia, claiming not to understand Castillian Spanish is a
political statement. In my experience, they understand Spanish just
fine when they want to.

>You probably could, if you were in Madrid. Barcelona is in Catalonia, and
>Catalan is common, and  onsidered a separate language. I always thought US
>schools should teach Mexican Spanish.

Well, or Puerto Rican depending where in the US you are.

Here in NY they teach Parisian French even though we can drive to
Montreal where they speak a rather different flavor of the language.

R's,
John
-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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#216635

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2021-01-28 00:31 -0500
Message-ID<87k0rxaaqh.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#216588
On Wed, 27 Jan 2021 04:21:22 -0000 (UTC), John Levine wrote:
>
> In article <2084667421.633380598.940468.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Peter Flass  <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
>>> formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
>>> I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
>>> couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
>>> speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
>
> In Catalonia, claiming not to understand Castillian Spanish is a
> political statement. In my experience, they understand Spanish just
> fine when they want to.

They're doing this in Quebec too. They pretend to only speak French. But
I already had it that one of these persons (neighbour) a few weeks asked
me for help and addressed me in English. He must have learned perfect
English in just a couple of days! ;-)

I could had been an asshole and suddenly forgot how to speak English and
reply in German. But I'm not an asshole (I guess :-).
-- 
Andreas

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#216661 — Re: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-)

FromJohn Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date2021-01-28 19:13 +0000
SubjectRe: linguistic miracles, Too much for one lifetime? :-)
Message-ID<ruv2d9$1f6d$2@gal.iecc.com>
In reply to#216635
In article <87k0rxaaqh.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>,
Andreas Kohlbach  <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>They're doing this in Quebec too. They pretend to only speak French. But
>I already had it that one of these persons (neighbour) a few weeks asked
>me for help and addressed me in English. He must have learned perfect
>English in just a couple of days! ;-)

When we vistited Quebec, their English got a whole lot better when
they heard my accent and realized I was from New York, not from
Ontario.

-- 
Regards,
John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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#216670

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Message-ID<1043528733.633556463.789603.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#216588
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> wrote:
> In article <2084667421.633380598.940468.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Peter Flass  <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
>>> formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
>>> I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
>>> couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
>>> speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
> 
> In Catalonia, claiming not to understand Castillian Spanish is a
> political statement. In my experience, they understand Spanish just
> fine when they want to.
> 
>> You probably could, if you were in Madrid. Barcelona is in Catalonia, and
>> Catalan is common, and  onsidered a separate language. I always thought US
>> schools should teach Mexican Spanish.
> 
> Well, or Puerto Rican depending where in the US you are.

Like New York.

> 
> Here in NY they teach Parisian French even though we can drive to
> Montreal where they speak a rather different flavor of the language.
> 
> R's,
> John



-- 
Pete

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#216552

Fromdrb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone)
Date2021-01-26 14:05 -0600
Message-ID<JYKdnWOilfi66439nZ2dnUU7-RPNnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#216538
 > I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.

There seems to be a common belief that teaching something more formal
(Castilian Spanish, "Modern Standard" [more Quranic, we were told]
Arabic) makes it more likely that you'll be able to communicate with
whomever you encounter.

"More likely" is of course statistical, and even then may or may not be
correct.

De

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#216557

FromDan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-26 16:34 -0500
Message-ID<ruq1sd$ovn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#216552
drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) writes:

>  > I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.
>
> There seems to be a common belief that teaching something more formal
> (Castilian Spanish, "Modern Standard" [more Quranic, we were told]
> Arabic) makes it more likely that you'll be able to communicate with
> whomever you encounter.
>
> "More likely" is of course statistical, and even then may or may not be
> correct.

There's also the issue of teaching material.
You need text books, tests, etc.

-- 
Dan Espen

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#216665

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Message-ID<56006887.633554775.982043.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#216552
Dennis Boone <drb@ihatespam.msu.edu> wrote:
>  > I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.
> 
> There seems to be a common belief that teaching something more formal
> (Castilian Spanish, "Modern Standard" [more Quranic, we were told]
> Arabic) makes it more likely that you'll be able to communicate with
> whomever you encounter.
> 
> "More likely" is of course statistical, and even then may or may not be
> correct.
> 

Usually it’s true. I know that in Germany there are various local dialects
that locals use among themselves, but I think everyone can understand and
speak Hochdeutsch. I don’t know about Spain, but I assume Castilian is the
dialect used in schools.

-- 
Pete

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#216711

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2021-01-29 17:57 -0500
Message-ID<8735yj5p1n.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#216665
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:13:34 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:
>
> Dennis Boone <drb@ihatespam.msu.edu> wrote:
>>  > I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.
>> 
>> There seems to be a common belief that teaching something more formal
>> (Castilian Spanish, "Modern Standard" [more Quranic, we were told]
>> Arabic) makes it more likely that you'll be able to communicate with
>> whomever you encounter.
>> 
>> "More likely" is of course statistical, and even then may or may not be
>> correct.
>> 
>
> Usually it’s true. I know that in Germany there are various local dialects
> that locals use among themselves, but I think everyone can understand and
> speak Hochdeutsch.

In my limited experience, when I moved from northern Germany, where we
spoke Hochdeutsch, people in the south (Baden-Würtemberg or Bavaria) can
understand Hochdeutsch. But have a problem to speak it themselves.

Not to forget, written German is usually written in Hochdeutsch. So every
kid at school can read and understand it, even if not be able to speak it.
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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#216712

FromRich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com>
Date2021-01-29 19:55 -0500
Message-ID<mdd4kizckgg.fsf@panix5.panix.com>
In reply to#216711
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:

> On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:13:34 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

>> Dennis Boone <drb@ihatespam.msu.edu> wrote:
>>>> I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.

>>> There seems to be a common belief that teaching something more formal
>>> (Castilian Spanish, "Modern Standard" [more Quranic, we were told]
>>> Arabic) makes it more likely that you'll be able to communicate with
>>> whomever you encounter.

>>> "More likely" is of course statistical, and even then may or may not be
>>> correct.

>>  Usually it's true. I know that in Germany there are various local dialects
>>  that locals use among themselves, but I think everyone can understand and
>>  speak Hochdeutsch.

> In my limited experience, when I moved from northern Germany, where we
> spoke Hochdeutsch, people in the south (Baden-Würtemberg or Bavaria) can
> understand Hochdeutsch. But have a problem to speak it themselves.

> Not to forget, written German is usually written in Hochdeutsch. So every
> kid at school can read and understand it, even if not be able to speak it.

Historically, "Hochdeutsch" is the range of dialects spoken in the (southern)
mountains, while "Plattdeutsch" is the range of dialects in the (northern)
lowlands.  This was the meaning used by Jacob Grimm when he posited the famous
Grimm's Law (die ersten und zwitten Lautverschiebungen) explaining the
relationship between the Germanic languages and Latin/Greek/Sanskrit.

I understand that people now refer to the standard based on Luther's
translation of the Bible as "Hochdeutsch", even though there are a number of
Plattdeutsch imports (the name for "Tuesday", for example, starts with a "Z" in
Hochdeutsch-the-historical-meaning), but it stills rings false to my linguist ear.

-- 
Rich Alderson					  news@alderson.users.panix.com
      Audendum est, et veritas investiganda; quam etiamsi non assequamur,
	  omnino tamen proprius, quam nunc sumus, ad eam perveniemus.
									--Galen

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#216720

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2021-01-30 04:58 -0500
Message-ID<87v9be3fvq.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#216712
On 29 Jan 2021 19:55:11 -0500, Rich Alderson wrote:
>
> Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
>
>> In my limited experience, when I moved from northern Germany, where we
>> spoke Hochdeutsch, people in the south (Baden-Würtemberg or Bavaria) can
>> understand Hochdeutsch. But have a problem to speak it themselves.
>
>> Not to forget, written German is usually written in Hochdeutsch. So every
>> kid at school can read and understand it, even if not be able to speak it.
>
> Historically, "Hochdeutsch" is the range of dialects spoken in the (southern)
> mountains, while "Plattdeutsch" is the range of dialects in the (northern)
> lowlands.  This was the meaning used by Jacob Grimm when he posited the famous
> Grimm's Law (die ersten und zwitten Lautverschiebungen) explaining the
> relationship between the Germanic languages and Latin/Greek/Sanskrit.

I should better had used "Schriftdeutsch"
<https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Schriftdeutsch>.
-- 
Andreas

PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0

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#216580

FromAndreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net>
Date2021-01-26 21:56 -0500
Message-ID<87o8hbcck3.fsf@usenet.ankman.de>
In reply to#216538
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:03:57 -0600, JimP wrote:
>
> In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
> formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
> I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
> couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
> speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
>
> I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.

Same for English lessons if you intend to visit/move/work in the US. I
was taught British English. If you are in the UK before you move to the
US all should be fine. Saying things like "Can i bum a fag mate?" are no
problem. Try that in Louisiana.
-- 
Andreas

https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/

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#216598

FromNiklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se>
Date2021-01-27 11:32 +0000
Message-ID<i7d1a1F1gc1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#216580
On 2021-01-27, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>
> Same for English lessons if you intend to visit/move/work in the US. I
> was taught British English. If you are in the UK before you move to the
> US all should be fine. Saying things like "Can i bum a fag mate?" are no
> problem. Try that in Louisiana.

British English is what's taught in school here (or at least it was when
I was in school), yet most Swedes speak something closer to American
English. Hollywood is probably a major factor here.

I sometimes had Englishmen have problems understanding me because I used
what turned out to be Americanisms.

Niklas
-- 
I hereby wish to register the band name "rm -rf /".
                       -- Jim

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#216600

FromThomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
Date2021-01-27 12:24 +0000
Message-ID<rurm2o$bfg$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de>
In reply to#216598
Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> schrieb:
> On 2021-01-27, Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>>
>> Same for English lessons if you intend to visit/move/work in the US. I
>> was taught British English. If you are in the UK before you move to the
>> US all should be fine. Saying things like "Can i bum a fag mate?" are no
>> problem. Try that in Louisiana.
>
> British English is what's taught in school here (or at least it was when
> I was in school), yet most Swedes speak something closer to American
> English. Hollywood is probably a major factor here.

Actors in British TV shows often use accents which make them very
hard to understand for foreigners.  That seems to be very rare in US
shows, which usually use a fairly standardized American English.

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#216602

Fromgareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com>
Date2021-01-27 13:11 +0000
Message-ID<ruropv$el5$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#216600
On 27/01/2021 12:24, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>
> Actors in British TV shows often use accents which make them very
> hard to understand for foreigners.

When it is wished to portray west country yokels they use the
"Mummerset" accent, supposedly based on Somerset, but for a
genuine Somerset accent look for the recordings of Adge Cutler
And The Wurzels, ie, before Adge was killed in a motor accent.

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#216671

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2021-01-28 13:13 -0700
Message-ID<864707250.633556749.905281.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#216602
gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 27/01/2021 12:24, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>> 
>> Actors in British TV shows often use accents which make them very
>> hard to understand for foreigners.
> 
> When it is wished to portray west country yokels they use the
> "Mummerset" accent, supposedly based on Somerset, but for a
> genuine Somerset accent look for the recordings of Adge Cutler
> And The Wurzels, ie, before Adge was killed in a motor accent.
> 

If it’s like the German shows I’ve seen it’s more like a sprinkling of
dialecticisms than a full-blown version. The idea is to convey that someone
is a rustic (or whatever) without making it too difficult to understand. A
lot of US books used to be written in dialect, for humor or whatever, but
this is now too hard for people to understand.

-- 
Pete

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#216690

FromAndy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com>
Date2021-01-29 04:05 -0600
Message-ID<slrns17nfv.al9.andyl@azaal.plus.com>
In reply to#216671
On Thu, 28 Jan 2021 13:13:39 -0700, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On 27/01/2021 12:24, Thomas Koenig wrote:
>>> 
>>> Actors in British TV shows often use accents which make them very
>>> hard to understand for foreigners.
>> 
>> When it is wished to portray west country yokels they use the
>> "Mummerset" accent, supposedly based on Somerset, but for a
>> genuine Somerset accent look for the recordings of Adge Cutler
>> And The Wurzels, ie, before Adge was killed in a motor accent.
>> 
>
> If it’s like the German shows I’ve seen it’s more like a sprinkling of
> dialecticisms than a full-blown version. 

Sometimes - but too many (or too obscure) dialect words will throw even 
native speakers.

More often you get a generalised rural accent, or a generalised Yorkshire
accent etc.  But sometimes the drama (or even non-drama) has the actors 
use an appropriate accent.

The Netflix film _The Dig_ based around the excavation of Sutton Hoo
is pretty good with accents and they have got the Suffolk accent pretty
good. They haven't gone overboard with the dialect words but have got the
rhythm of delivery with gaps right. But it also uses phrases like "He say
time has lost his meaning" which has two deviations from standard English.
This is pretty notable because rural East Anglian accents tend to be treated 
as generic rural which turns out more like a bad West Country accent.

-- 
Andy Leighton => andyl@azaal.plus.com
"We demand rigidly defined areas of doubt and uncertainty!"
   - Douglas Adams

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#216704

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2021-01-29 16:45 -0400
Message-ID<87bld7lbfo.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#216690
Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> writes:

> More often you get a generalised rural accent, or a generalised Yorkshire
> accent etc.  But sometimes the drama (or even non-drama) has the actors 
> use an appropriate accent.
> 
> The Netflix film _The Dig_ based around the excavation of Sutton Hoo
> is pretty good with accents and they have got the Suffolk accent pretty
> good. They haven't gone overboard with the dialect words but have got the
> rhythm of delivery with gaps right. But it also uses phrases like "He say
> time has lost his meaning" which has two deviations from standard English.
> This is pretty notable because rural East Anglian accents tend to be treated 
> as generic rural which turns out more like a bad West Country accent.

On my only visit to England, I was riding on a bus with other
conference attendees and was trying to eavesdrop on a conversation in
the seat behind me. One of the more eccentric guys among us [1] was
recounting a yarn in one regional English dialect (not his own).  What
struck me was that his rendition was (to my ear anyhow)
indistinguishable from the dialect/accent of elderly rural New
Hampshire residents in the late 1950s-early 60s and, to some degree,
into the 90s,

[1] All blacksmiths, which may shift the value of "more eccentric"
    significantly as being a blacksmith in 1980 was pretty eccentric
    in itself.



-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#216607

FromJimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date2021-01-27 10:55 -0600
Message-ID<9l631ghhod0dthj3nkj1r6kolvv8l3l36v@4ax.com>
In reply to#216580
On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 21:56:44 -0500, Andreas Kohlbach
<ank@spamfence.net> wrote:
>On Tue, 26 Jan 2021 12:03:57 -0600, JimP wrote:
>>
>> In US high schools we were taught Castilliano Spanish. A closer to
>> formal Spanish, I have been told. I know that when I tried to use what
>> I remembered when my ship pulling into Barcelona, I was told they
>> couldn't understand me. Then someone pointed out, in English, I was
>> speaking a version of Spanish common in one province of Spain.
>>
>> I have no idea why we weren't taught something we could use.
>
>Same for English lessons if you intend to visit/move/work in the US. I
>was taught British English. If you are in the UK before you move to the
>US all should be fine. Saying things like "Can i bum a fag mate?" are no
>problem. Try that in Louisiana.

Well, they may not speak much English. More likely Cajun French, which
is French from around 400 years ago. Or maybe it is Napoleonic French.
I have never been certain.

-- 
Jim

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