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SUSE Reviving Usenet

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  SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-29 09:04 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:44 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:44 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:25 -0400
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 14:03 -0500
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-09-30 23:36 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 20:20 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-09-30 14:45 -1000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-01 06:30 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 14:48 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-01 13:47 -0400
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-01 17:56 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:07 -0400
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 20:49 +0100
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:03 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-02 10:49 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 15:13 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Mainlander <Mainlander@katamail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:35 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0400
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 13:34 -0700
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 20:04 -0400
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:50 +0000
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-03 05:52 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2021-10-20 00:00 +0100
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:13 -0500
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:48 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-02 22:23 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 16:07 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 18:06 +0100
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:55 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 22:17 +0100
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-03 08:15 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:29 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-02 07:53 -1000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2021-10-02 18:58 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:27 -0500
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2021-10-03 15:34 +0000
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 01:05 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-10-02 20:04 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-03 00:24 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-05 00:13 -0400
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-05 20:14 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-04 14:17 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-04 16:42 +0100
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-04 17:17 +0100
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 16:38 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 16:10 -0400
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-05 00:11 -0400
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 08:31 -0400
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-05 11:34 -0400
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-05 17:31 +0000
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-10-06 09:31 +0100
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-08 18:53 -0400
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 17:41 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 20:58 -0400
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 06:38 +0100
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 01:26 -0500
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 08:12 +0100
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 03:41 -0500
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-05 23:04 +0000
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 06:48 -0700
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-05 14:17 +0000
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 23:03 -0500
                              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-06 04:58 +0000
                                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 00:59 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 16:00 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2021-11-25 20:13 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-26 04:02 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Geeknix <usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> - 2021-11-26 07:41 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-26 21:01 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-vck-this> - 2021-11-26 09:42 -0800
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet sidd@situ.com - 2021-10-16 06:40 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-16 09:14 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-16 13:19 -0700
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-17 17:31 -1000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-23 09:52 -1000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom (Lawrence Statton (NK1G)) - 2021-10-01 16:26 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-10-01 23:19 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-09-30 18:38 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-30 19:26 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-09-30 21:39 +0200
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-01 21:32 +0200
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 20:31 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 21:24 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 11:12 -0500
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 18:09 +0100
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-02 18:32 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 20:41 +0100
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:40 -0500
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-03 13:31 +0200
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-03 22:57 -0500
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-04 14:06 +0200
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-04 14:11 +0100
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-05 10:28 +0200
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 10:44 +0100
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-04 14:21 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 15:29 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-05 11:04 +0200
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet lawrence@cluon.com (Lawrence Statton (NK1G)) - 2021-10-04 13:42 -0500
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ulick Magee <ulickmagee@feckoff.invalid> - 2021-11-09 23:55 +0000
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-11-09 20:44 -0600
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 06:22 +0100
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 14:55 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 17:19 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:13 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Mainlander <Mainlander@katamail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:26 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 18:11 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet sidd@situ.com - 2021-10-16 07:01 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> - 2021-10-13 18:39 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-10-13 17:58 -0500
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> - 2021-10-14 09:25 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-10-14 15:29 +0000
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-14 14:27 -1000
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-10-15 10:07 +0100
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-16 02:53 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-10-16 15:34 -0500
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> - 2021-10-18 10:55 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 17:30 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-10-01 18:27 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jakob Bohm <jb-usenet@wisemo.com.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:46 +0200
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 21:26 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-10-02 01:12 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 11:08 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Mainlander <Mainlander@katamail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:31 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-04 14:19 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-10-05 07:36 +0000
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 09:30 +0100
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-10-05 10:07 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 12:57 +0100
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-10-05 13:48 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 10:08 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 16:25 +0100
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:17 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2021-09-29 15:56 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-09-29 17:22 +0100
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:23 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:22 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-30 13:27 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 12:58 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-30 19:12 +0100
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 13:16 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 15:59 -0500
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 17:38 -0700
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-29 17:36 +0000
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 22:32 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:25 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 10:57 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-10-02 22:07 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:07 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 11:46 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-03 18:14 +0100
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:35 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 14:28 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2021-10-06 15:55 +0300
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-06 14:35 +0100
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 00:37 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-07 07:04 +0100
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-07 18:30 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-07 08:47 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-07 13:07 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:16 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-08 00:08 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:50 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 09:32 -0500
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:38 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2021-10-07 17:42 +0300
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:26 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-07 23:44 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:23 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-08 01:27 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:56 -0500
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-08 01:58 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-07 20:01 -0700
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-08 00:54 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 12:23 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 13:35 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-12 16:16 -0700
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-13 00:17 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-12 20:00 -0700
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-10-13 17:48 +0100
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 09:38 -0500

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#219281

From	Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com>
Date	2021-10-04 15:29 +0000
Message-ID	<G5F6J.218785$T_8.153246@fx48.iad>
In reply to	#219276

On 2021-10-04, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> In sci.crypt Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 04/10/2021 05.57, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>>> On 10/3/21 6:31 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 02/10/2021 18.12, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/21 2:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> 
>>> [...]
>>> 
>>>>> 3. Set up your emails on your own domain so you won't ever lose them.
>>>>
>>>> And how do you do this?
>>> 
>>> TL;DR : Hestia Control Panel -- https://hestiacp.com/
>>> Instant solution : namecheap.com hosting
>>> 
>>> Option A : become mired to your eyeballs in Linux / BSD administration
>>> and set up networking, hosts, bind for DNS, and a mail server,
>>> interface, MTA, and your DKMS, and SSL certificates using
>>> Acme/LetsEncrypt. If you want heavy-duty security, maybe run with
>>> FreeBSD and do everything with SSH using ECC key authentication with
>>> password login and challenge disabled.
>> 
>> That is, install a mail server at home. Requires a fixed IP.
>> 
>> Having my own domain is trivial, setting up and maintaining a mail
>> server is not.
>
> Setting up a mailserver for a single domain at home using Postfix 
> involves editing about four to five lines of the default Postfix config 
> file (and the config file is heavily commented, 90%+ is comments 
> describing what each option performs).
>

I have my own smtp server, but don't feel the need to do that :P
as i wuold be only user :P



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#219325

From	"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid>
Date	2021-10-05 11:04 +0200
Message-ID	<k2ht2ixnh.ln2@minas-tirith.valinor>
In reply to	#219276

On 04/10/2021 16.21, Rich wrote:
> In sci.crypt Carlos E. R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
>> On 04/10/2021 05.57, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>>> On 10/3/21 6:31 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>> On 02/10/2021 18.12, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>>>>> On 10/1/21 2:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>>
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>> 3. Set up your emails on your own domain so you won't ever lose them.
>>>>
>>>> And how do you do this?
>>>
>>> TL;DR : Hestia Control Panel -- https://hestiacp.com/
>>> Instant solution : namecheap.com hosting
>>>
>>> Option A : become mired to your eyeballs in Linux / BSD administration
>>> and set up networking, hosts, bind for DNS, and a mail server,
>>> interface, MTA, and your DKMS, and SSL certificates using
>>> Acme/LetsEncrypt. If you want heavy-duty security, maybe run with
>>> FreeBSD and do everything with SSH using ECC key authentication with
>>> password login and challenge disabled.
>>
>> That is, install a mail server at home. Requires a fixed IP.
>>
>> Having my own domain is trivial, setting up and maintaining a mail
>> server is not.
> 
> Setting up a mailserver for a single domain at home using Postfix 
> involves editing about four to five lines of the default Postfix config 
> file (and the config file is heavily commented, 90%+ is comments 
> describing what each option performs).

You don't have to sell me that, all my machines have a working postfix
and some also have a working dovecot server as well.

Fortunately, port 25 is not blocked here.

Keeping that working on internet, and tracking every time an email fails
to send or receive, is a job.

Like some destination not accepting your emails because XXX. Mailing the
mail admin there - oops, bounces. Ooops, account full. Ooops, I have to
contact them on a web form instead, or via phone, or via fax...

No, thank you.

Using an ISP relay server? Unknown concept here.

No, the only way I would accept the idea of having my own domain for
email would be telling a commercial mail provider to use my domain
instead of their domain. If I change mail provider, I carry my domain to
another mail provider.

Whether that is possible here, I do not know for sure. Was not possible
20 years ago or i did not find it.

-- 
Cheers,
       Carlos E.R.

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#219295

From	lawrence@cluon.com (Lawrence Statton (NK1G))
Date	2021-10-04 13:42 -0500
Message-ID	<87h7dw7htu.fsf@cluon.com>
In reply to	#219265

"Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> writes:
> On 04/10/2021 05.57, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>> On 10/3/21 6:31 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>>> On 02/10/2021 18.12, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>>>> On 10/1/21 2:32 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> 
>> [...]
>> 
>>>> 3. Set up your emails on your own domain so you won't ever lose them.
>>>
>>> And how do you do this?
>> 
>> TL;DR : Hestia Control Panel -- https://hestiacp.com/
>> Instant solution : namecheap.com hosting
>> 
>> Option A : become mired to your eyeballs in Linux / BSD administration
>> and set up networking, hosts, bind for DNS, and a mail server,
>> interface, MTA, and your DKMS, and SSL certificates using
>> Acme/LetsEncrypt. If you want heavy-duty security, maybe run with
>> FreeBSD and do everything with SSH using ECC key authentication with
>> password login and challenge disabled.
>
> That is, install a mail server at home. Requires a fixed IP.

That is *one way* to skin that cat.  It is probably the most
straight-forward, but is by no means the only way.

> Having my own domain is trivial, setting up and maintaining a mail
> server is not.

It's a skill no harder than learning to play checkers.  Perhaps I have
observation bias because I've been doing it for thirty years for
fun-and-money, but never has it been "difficult".

--
Lawrence - NK1G 
echo 'lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom' | sed s/aba/c/g

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#219711

From	Ulick Magee <ulickmagee@feckoff.invalid>
Date	2021-11-09 23:55 +0000
Message-ID	<smf1pp$1i09$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to	#219247

On 03/10/2021 12:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 02/10/2021 18.12, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>>
>> All youngsters and nascent hackers:
>>
>> 1. Register a domain name and never lose it.
>>
>> 2. Pay for at least 5 years in advance and put it on your calendar to
>> check yearly.
>>
>> 3. Set up your emails on your own domain so you won't ever lose them.
> 
> And how do you do this?


This is what I use:

https://www.blacknight.com/email-only/

I bought my domain from them too, works out at 20 euro a year for email 
hosting and the domain, incl VAT.

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#219714

From	Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date	2021-11-09 20:44 -0600
Message-ID	<smfbn0$8fh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#219711

On 11/9/2021 5:55 PM, Ulick Magee wrote:
> On 03/10/2021 12:31, Carlos E. R. wrote:
>> On 02/10/2021 18.12, 711 Spooky Mart wrote:
>>>
>>> All youngsters and nascent hackers:
>>>
>>> 1. Register a domain name and never lose it.
>>>
>>> 2. Pay for at least 5 years in advance and put it on your calendar to
>>> check yearly.
>>>
>>> 3. Set up your emails on your own domain so you won't ever lose them.
>>
>> And how do you do this?
> 
> 
> This is what I use:
> 
> https://www.blacknight.com/email-only/
> 
> I bought my domain from them too, works out at 20 euro a year for 
> email hosting and the domain, incl VAT.

zoho.com offers free (individual) mail hosting with POP3/IMAP access 
if you wish. So if you own a domain you can redirect mail there. 
(They're an Indian company that sells online business services.) They 
claim that (unlike gmail) they don't read or track your mail. You can 
find the domain itself for a little less than 20 euro (e.g. 
namecheap.com).

The main thing about owning your own domain is that if you don't favor 
one of the big free email services (google/yahoo/aol/etc.) and change 
ISP, you don't have to change email address (or run your own mail 
server, which is a PITA).

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#219179

From	Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date	2021-10-01 06:22 +0100
Message-ID	<20211001062236.4a42ac7af8b4efa5cf3feacd@eircom.net>
In reply to	#219166

On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 19:26:42 -0000 (UTC)
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:

> In sci.crypt Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:

> > As I mentioned in another forum, blame also needs to be placed on 
> > former New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, who threatened to 
> > prosecute ISPs over alleged child pornography in binary newsgoups and 
> > gave the major ISPs an excuse to shut down their NNTP servers 
> > entirely back in the mid-aughts.
> 
> That did also have an impact.  But consider that had NNTP/Usenet 
> service been seen as a major selling point for folks buying ISP 

	Consider also that it was dropped globally not just in the US.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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#219185

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Date	2021-10-01 14:55 +0000
Message-ID	<sj77hc$1v6$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#219179

In sci.crypt Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 19:26:42 -0000 (UTC)
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> In sci.crypt Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:
> 
>> > As I mentioned in another forum, blame also needs to be placed on 
>> > former New York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, who threatened to 
>> > prosecute ISPs over alleged child pornography in binary newsgoups and 
>> > gave the major ISPs an excuse to shut down their NNTP servers 
>> > entirely back in the mid-aughts.
>> 
>> That did also have an impact.  But consider that had NNTP/Usenet 
>> service been seen as a major selling point for folks buying ISP 
> 
>        Consider also that it was dropped globally not just in the US.

True, and anyone outside of the US would not have cared much about the 
NY AG's blustering.

From the ISP perspective, it is a simple matter to monitor number of 
users signing up vs.  number of users using "the web" and number of 
users using "Usenet".  They all likely had logs and stats showing 
something like 99% of new users never touch Usenet and something like 
98% of existing users never touch Usenet and so after some time, they 
decided to drop Usenet because it was a direct cost to them, but 
clearly not a reason why all those users were paying them for access.

And, if those ISP's were running NNTP servers *and* carrying the 
alt.binaries hierarchy, the huge size of alt.binaries made the NNTP 
server a huge cost burden for the amount of storage necessary for even 
a few days of retention on alt.binaries.

Now, they /could/ have just dropped alt.binaries.* and saved themselves 
the expense of storage for that portion of Usenet.  But if they did 
have stat's showing something like only 2% of their users ever use 
Usenet, then dropping everything in their view did little harm to 
anyone.  They were not likely to lose anything but pocket change from 
the 2% of users who might complain or go elsewhere.

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#219186

From	Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date	2021-10-01 17:19 +0100
Message-ID	<20211001171942.10342ab1a259ea1430458838@eircom.net>
In reply to	#219185

On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 14:55:40 -0000 (UTC)
Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:

> And, if those ISP's were running NNTP servers *and* carrying the 
> alt.binaries hierarchy, the huge size of alt.binaries made the NNTP 
> server a huge cost burden for the amount of storage necessary for even 
> a few days of retention on alt.binaries.

	Not just storage (which is cheap) but also bandwidth lwhich after
all was (and is) their main product and at the time very expensive. Losing
vast quantities of bandwidth to a full USENET feed (and often that was the
option for USENET peering take it all or take none of it) at a time when WWW
was often claimed to stand for World Wide Wait was not good business.

> They were not likely to lose anything but pocket change from 
> the 2% of users who might complain or go elsewhere.

	Not even that when nobody is providing an NNTP service as part of
the package because even if you have to go elsewhere for USENET you still
need the ISP for connectivity.

	but USENET was just the first service to go, most ISPs these days
provide connectivity, maybe static IPs, maybe IPv6 and (reluctantly) an
outgoing SMTP relay, but you'll have to ask about it and they probably
wouldn't bother if they didn't need it for themselves. You want email, or 
web hosting or USENET or an ftp archive or ... "Go find it yourself start at
Google they've got everything you need".

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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#219187

From	Rich <rich@example.invalid>
Date	2021-10-01 17:13 +0000
Message-ID	<sj7fj2$ubo$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#219186

In sci.crypt Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 14:55:40 -0000 (UTC)
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> And, if those ISP's were running NNTP servers *and* carrying the 
>> alt.binaries hierarchy, the huge size of alt.binaries made the NNTP 
>> server a huge cost burden for the amount of storage necessary for 
>> even a few days of retention on alt.binaries.
> 
>        Not just storage (which is cheap) but also bandwidth lwhich 
> after all was (and is) their main product and at the time very 
> expensive.  Losing vast quantities of bandwidth to a full USENET feed 
> (and often that was the option for USENET peering take it all or take 
> none of it) at a time when WWW was often claimed to stand for World 
> Wide Wait was not good business.

Ah, yes, a 'peering' arrangement that is "all or nothing" causes a huge 
bandwidth charge, to receive alt.binaries.*, even if they were all 
subsequently dropped locally to avoid any 'copyright infringement' 
appearances.  That right there would have given the bean-counters at 
the ISP reason enough to target Usenet as a "drop this cost center" 
item.

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#219217

From	Mainlander <Mainlander@katamail.com>
Date	2021-10-02 16:26 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnslh20t.aop.Mainlander@dmaus.org>
In reply to	#219186

On 2021-10-01, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 14:55:40 -0000 (UTC)
> Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>
>> And, if those ISP's were running NNTP servers *and* carrying the 
>> alt.binaries hierarchy, the huge size of alt.binaries made the NNTP 
>> server a huge cost burden for the amount of storage necessary for even 
>> a few days of retention on alt.binaries.
>
> 	Not just storage (which is cheap) but also bandwidth lwhich after
> all was (and is) their main product and at the time very expensive. Losing
> vast quantities of bandwidth to a full USENET feed (and often that was the
> option for USENET peering take it all or take none of it) at a time when WWW
> was often claimed to stand for World Wide Wait was not good business.
>
>> They were not likely to lose anything but pocket change from 
>> the 2% of users who might complain or go elsewhere.
>
> 	Not even that when nobody is providing an NNTP service as part of
> the package because even if you have to go elsewhere for USENET you still
> need the ISP for connectivity.
>
> 	but USENET was just the first service to go, most ISPs these days
> provide connectivity, maybe static IPs, maybe IPv6 and (reluctantly) an
> outgoing SMTP relay, but you'll have to ask about it and they probably
> wouldn't bother if they didn't need it for themselves. You want email, or 
> web hosting or USENET or an ftp archive or ... "Go find it yourself start at
> Google they've got everything you need".
>

news.individual.net


-- 
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

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#219222

From	Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date	2021-10-02 18:11 +0100
Message-ID	<20211002181130.ef0973842165ffa10ff8de89@eircom.net>
In reply to	#219217

On 2 Oct 2021 16:26:05 GMT
Mainlander <Mainlander@katamail.com> wrote:

> On 2021-10-01, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> > On Fri, 1 Oct 2021 14:55:40 -0000 (UTC)

> > themselves. You want email, or web hosting or USENET or an ftp archive
> > or ... "Go find it yourself start at Google they've got everything you
> > need".
> >
> 
> news.individual.net

	Sure or Eternal September or Aoie or ... but for sure not your ISP
who don't care where you go for the many services they don't provide.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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#219475

From	sidd@situ.com
Date	2021-10-16 07:01 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnsml035.6pa.sidd@hugin.membrane.com>
In reply to	#219186

On 2021-10-01, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> most ISPs these days
> provide connectivity, maybe static IPs, maybe IPv6 and (reluctantly) 

[USA]
i ask for their business service. more expensive, but comes with an SLA
and much easier static ip allocation (5US$ bucks a month for each from 
verizon fiber east coast) Seen the same in the midwest, if you want a 
static IP talk to their bizness end. 

sidd

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#219465

From	Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net>
Date	2021-10-13 18:39 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnsme9v0.5qe.xenon@vox.wsalamon.net>
In reply to	#219185

On 2021-10-01, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>
> From the ISP perspective, it is a simple matter to monitor number of 
> users signing up vs.  number of users using "the web" and number of 
> users using "Usenet".  They all likely had logs and stats showing 
> something like 99% of new users never touch Usenet and something like 
> 98% of existing users never touch Usenet and so after some time, they 
> decided to drop Usenet because it was a direct cost to them, but 
> clearly not a reason why all those users were paying them for access.

My previous ISP provided a feed as well as remote login to their servers,
so I would read Usenet on their system because that was faster than reading
over dial-up or DSL. One day news stopped working, so I waited a few days and
called them. The tech put me on hold for a bit, then came back and said
"We stopped the news feed, as there was only one user; you." I was supposed
to get a warning email but didn't. Any way, I switched to Eternal September.

-- 
WJS

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#219466

From	ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date	2021-10-13 17:58 -0500
Message-ID	<fs2dnWx_bIYe-fr8nZ2dnUU7-UvNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#219465

Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
> On 2021-10-01, Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
> >
> > From the ISP perspective, it is a simple matter to monitor number of 
> > users signing up vs.  number of users using "the web" and number of 
> > users using "Usenet".  They all likely had logs and stats showing 
> > something like 99% of new users never touch Usenet and something like 
> > 98% of existing users never touch Usenet and so after some time, they 
> > decided to drop Usenet because it was a direct cost to them, but 
> > clearly not a reason why all those users were paying them for access.

> My previous ISP provided a feed as well as remote login to their servers,
> so I would read Usenet on their system because that was faster than reading
> over dial-up or DSL. One day news stopped working, so I waited a few days and
> called them. The tech put me on hold for a bit, then came back and said
> "We stopped the news feed, as there was only one user; you." I was supposed
> to get a warning email but didn't. Any way, I switched to Eternal September.

Same with MM Internet. Was that your ISP too?
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#219467

From	Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net>
Date	2021-10-14 09:25 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnsmftsh.5qe.xenon@vox.wsalamon.net>
In reply to	#219466

On 2021-10-13, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
> Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
>
>> My previous ISP provided a feed as well as remote login to their servers,
>> so I would read Usenet on their system because that was faster than reading
>> over dial-up or DSL. One day news stopped working, so I waited a few days and
>> called them. The tech put me on hold for a bit, then came back and said
>> "We stopped the news feed, as there was only one user; you." I was supposed
>> to get a warning email but didn't. Any way, I switched to Eternal September.
>
> Same with MM Internet. Was that your ISP too?

No, Xecunet. They were great, still in business but don't do home users anymore.
I used them for dial-up starting in the mid-90s, then DSL later on. When the
DSL switch happened, I didn't want to wait for the DSL box in the mail, so I
called and asked whether I could pick it up from their office. The reply was
"Sure, if it's after 5:00 PM just come around back and knock on the door."

Every call to them was handled by a tech who knew what they were doing. A bit
refreshing to talk to someone who understood traceroute, unlike the most of the
support staff at the DSL circuit provider.

-- 
WJS

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#219468

From	Maus <Greymaus@mail.com>
Date	2021-10-14 15:29 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnsmgj5v.253.Greymaus@dmaus.org>
In reply to	#219467

On 2021-10-14, Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
> On 2021-10-13, Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote:
>> Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> My previous ISP provided a feed as well as remote login to their servers,
>>> so I would read Usenet on their system because that was faster than reading
>>> over dial-up or DSL. One day news stopped working, so I waited a few days and
>>> called them. The tech put me on hold for a bit, then came back and said
>>> "We stopped the news feed, as there was only one user; you." I was supposed
>>> to get a warning email but didn't. Any way, I switched to Eternal September.
>>
>> Same with MM Internet. Was that your ISP too?
>
> No, Xecunet. They were great, still in business but don't do home users anymore.
> I used them for dial-up starting in the mid-90s, then DSL later on. When the
> DSL switch happened, I didn't want to wait for the DSL box in the mail, so I
> called and asked whether I could pick it up from their office. The reply was
> "Sure, if it's after 5:00 PM just come around back and knock on the door."
>
> Every call to them was handled by a tech who knew what they were doing. A bit
> refreshing to talk to someone who understood traceroute, unlike the most of the
> support staff at the DSL circuit provider.
>

I was amazed when I moved from a BBS to usenet, at how `wild' the
discussion was people would attack you for nno reason, just for fun.
With the BBS system. if you get such a messae, you could call round to
the poster to discuss the matter.

With the bbs systems, it cost little to set up a host, but expensive to
call them. 


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That's not a mousehole!

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#219469

From	Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date	2021-10-14 14:27 -1000
Message-ID	<87lf2v874x.fsf@localhost>
In reply to	#219468

Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> writes:
> I was amazed when I moved from a BBS to usenet, at how `wild' the
> discussion was people would attack you for nno reason, just for fun.
> With the BBS system. if you get such a messae, you could call round to
> the poster to discuss the matter.
>
> With the bbs systems, it cost little to set up a host, but expensive to
> call them. 

... also periodically noticed from 90s on ... if troll wasn't generating
enough for their satisfaction ... they would assume multiple persona
taking different sides trying to draw in as many as possible into
discussion

-- 
virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970

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#219472

From	"Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1>
Date	2021-10-15 10:07 +0100
Message-ID	<20211015100724.7b7ae5f860ea27da081a882e@127.0.0.1>
In reply to	#219469

On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:27:10 -1000
Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:

> Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> writes:
> > I was amazed when I moved from a BBS to usenet, at how `wild' the
> > discussion was people would attack you for nno reason, just for fun.
> > With the BBS system. if you get such a messae, you could call round
> > to the poster to discuss the matter.
> >
> > With the bbs systems, it cost little to set up a host, but
> > expensive to call them. 
> 
> ... also periodically noticed from 90s on ... if troll wasn't
> generating enough for their satisfaction ... they would assume
> multiple persona taking different sides trying to draw in as many as
> possible into discussion

There's still a few lonely loons; see e.g. alt.usenet.kooks, but I
really wouldn't recommend it.

-- 
Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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#219473

From	Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com>
Date	2021-10-16 02:53 +0000
Message-ID	<u8raJ.149973$lC6.48373@fx41.iad>
In reply to	#219472

On 2021-10-15, Kerr-Mudd, John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Oct 2021 14:27:10 -1000
> Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> wrote:
>
>> Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> writes:
>> > I was amazed when I moved from a BBS to usenet, at how `wild' the
>> > discussion was people would attack you for nno reason, just for fun.
>> > With the BBS system. if you get such a messae, you could call round
>> > to the poster to discuss the matter.
>> >
>> > With the bbs systems, it cost little to set up a host, but
>> > expensive to call them. 
>> 
>> ... also periodically noticed from 90s on ... if troll wasn't
>> generating enough for their satisfaction ... they would assume
>> multiple persona taking different sides trying to draw in as many as
>> possible into discussion
>
> There's still a few lonely loons; see e.g. alt.usenet.kooks, but I
> really wouldn't recommend it.
>
You can tell a difference if Loon is capable to talk about different
subject, switch schema and stay ON TOPIC :p


-- 

7-77-777
Evil Sinner!
with software, you repeat same experiment, expecting different results...

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#219478

From	ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
Date	2021-10-16 15:34 -0500
Message-ID	<ArWdnYrAMIOmqvb8nZ2dnUU7-X2dnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to	#219467

Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> wrote:
...
> Every call to them was handled by a tech who knew what they were doing. A bit
> refreshing to talk to someone who understood traceroute, unlike the most of the
> support staff at the DSL circuit provider.

Ha, it's not just DSL services. It's like everyone!
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Doyers! :D So many brokenesses, oldnesses, leaks, illnesses, videos, spams, issues, software updates, games, sins, tiredness, busyness, etc. Dang colony life! D:
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