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| Started by | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| First post | 2020-11-13 18:10 -0600 |
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line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-13 18:10 -0600
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-14 09:49 +0000
Re: line editors Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2020-11-15 00:39 +0000
Re: line editors Bill Findlay <findlaybill@blueyonder.co.uk> - 2020-11-15 01:32 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-15 08:54 +0000
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 06:35 -0700
Re: line editors Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-16 14:33 +0000
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 11:52 -0700
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-16 11:45 -0500
Re: line editors "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-17 18:25 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-14 12:53 +0100
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 09:52 -0600
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-14 20:09 +0100
Re: line editors JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-15 13:59 -0600
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-15 20:55 +0000
Re: line editors JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-16 12:49 -0600
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 11:53 -0700
Re: line editors JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-11-16 17:40 -0600
Re: line editors "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-17 18:35 +0000
Re: line editors Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-17 18:42 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-17 21:04 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-17 23:28 +0100
Re: line editors Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-11-18 15:51 +0200
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-18 14:32 +0000
Re: line editors "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-23 11:35 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-17 22:07 +0100
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-17 19:43 +0100
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-17 20:14 +0000
Re: line editors maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-18 08:44 +0000
Re: line editors Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-12-21 12:24 -0500
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-17 21:04 +0000
Re: line editors Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-12-21 12:28 -0500
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-21 16:00 -0700
Re: line editors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-14 21:03 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 15:15 -0600
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-14 21:33 +0000
Re: line editors songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2020-11-14 08:02 -0500
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-14 14:51 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-14 15:30 +0000
Re: line editors Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-14 12:34 -0500
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 12:28 -0600
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-14 18:36 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 13:39 -0600
Re: line editors Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-15 10:07 +0000
Re: line editors Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-11-15 14:30 +0000
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-15 15:58 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-15 17:35 +0000
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-15 18:32 +0000
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-15 20:46 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-14 21:06 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-14 15:20 -0600
Re: line editors Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-14 09:57 -0600
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-14 17:48 +0000
Re:line editors Sarr Blumson <sarr.blumson@alum.dartmouth.org> - 2020-11-14 22:03 -0500
Re: line editors Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-11-16 19:06 +0200
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-16 11:26 -0600
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-16 20:38 +0100
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-16 14:38 -0600
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 14:13 -0700
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-16 22:33 +0100
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-16 14:13 -0700
Re: line editors Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-16 21:24 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-16 21:40 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-16 21:45 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-16 22:38 +0100
Re: line editors Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-11-16 23:46 +0200
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-16 23:20 +0100
Re: line editors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-17 00:18 +0000
Re: line editors "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-11-17 18:29 +0000
Re: line editors "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2020-11-17 19:42 +0100
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-17 14:23 -0700
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-17 21:42 +0000
Re: line editors Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-17 17:32 -0500
Re: line editors drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-11-17 21:29 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-17 23:19 -0500
Re: line editors Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-18 04:01 -0600
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 04:57 -0600
Re: line editors Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-18 09:15 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 12:51 -0500
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 12:00 -0600
Re: line editors Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-18 18:14 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 15:41 -0600
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Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 16:27 -0500
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 15:45 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 17:46 -0500
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 20:20 -0600
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 08:16 -0500
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-18 07:31 -0700
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-18 12:40 -0500
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-18 22:06 +0000
Re: line editors Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-20 21:33 +0100
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-20 18:09 -0500
Re: line editors Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-21 18:27 +0000
Re: line editors Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-11-21 15:06 -0500
Re: line editors Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-11-22 09:09 +0000
Re: line editors Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-11-22 10:02 +0000
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-21 18:52 +0000
Re: line editors Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-11-18 12:19 -0800
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-18 04:54 -0600
Re: line editors Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-11-19 16:34 +0100
Re: line editors Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-17 18:32 +0000
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-17 18:40 +0000
Re: line editors Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-11-17 19:44 +0000
Re: line editors Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-11-19 16:45 +0100
Re: line editors Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-11-17 14:11 -0600
Re: line editors Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2020-11-17 21:20 +0000
Re: line editors Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-19 21:41 +0100
Re: line editors Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-11-20 06:53 +0000
Re: line editors Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-11-20 07:50 +0000
Re: line editors Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-11-20 08:07 +0000
Re: line editors Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-30 20:52 +0100
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-20 09:07 +0000
Re: line editors Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-11-23 08:59 +0000
Re: line editors Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-11-23 10:09 +0000
Re: line editors Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-11-23 08:07 -0600
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Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-23 15:28 +0000
Re: line editors drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-11-23 14:58 -0600
Re: line editors Richard Thiebaud <thiebauddick2@aol.com> - 2020-11-23 18:21 -0500
Re: line editors drb@ihatespam.msu.edu (Dennis Boone) - 2020-11-23 20:15 -0600
Re: line editors Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-11-24 11:01 -0700
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-24 18:54 +0000
Re: line editors J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-11-23 09:02 -0500
Re: line editors scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-11-23 15:26 +0000
Re: line editors Jan van den Broek <fortytwo@xs4all.nl> - 2020-11-30 20:47 +0100
Re: line editors maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-11-20 17:47 +0000
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 21:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i1is7iFh280U22@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215328 |
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:42:37 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: > Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: > >> Carlos wrote: >> >>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>> printer, >> >> Something about copy con prn >> >> ? > > mode lpt1:=con: > > maybe? CTTY PRN -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 23:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <icvd8h-2ir.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #215337 |
On 17/11/2020 22.04, Bob Eager wrote: > On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:42:37 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: > >> Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: >> >>> Carlos wrote: >>> >>>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>>> printer, >>> >>> Something about copy con prn >>> >>> ? >> >> mode lpt1:=con: >> >> maybe? > > CTTY PRN That sounds like it. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> |
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| Date | 2020-11-18 15:51 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <sm0wnyi4vtg.fsf@lakka.kapsi.fi> |
| In reply to | #215337 |
Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: > On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:42:37 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: > >> Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: >> >>> Carlos wrote: >>> >>>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>>> printer, >>> >>> Something about copy con prn >>> >>> ? >> >> mode lpt1:=con: >> >> maybe? > > CTTY PRN Yep, CTTY it is. It works with serial ports too. I even used it recently (i.e. sometime in the last decade), someone in the diy OS group was asking people to run some kind of USB host controller identification program on different computers and it was a DOS program. I had an old Thinkpad X20 so I ran it on that but the problem was getting data out of that computer when it was booted to DOS (PXE boot over the network). No network access from DOS, no USB access either, the only HD was formatted for Linux so ext3 or ext4. And no floppy drive. So by using CTTY COM1: and a null modem cable I could get the program's output over serial port to another computer and go from there. Of course that sort of thing doesn't work with software that writes directly in display memory but luckily this wasn't the case here.
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-11-18 14:32 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i1kpkeFh280U23@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215351 |
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:51:39 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: > >> On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:42:37 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: >> >>> Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: >>> >>>> Carlos wrote: >>>> >>>>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>>>> printer, >>>> >>>> Something about copy con prn >>>> >>>> ? >>> >>> mode lpt1:=con: >>> >>> maybe? >> >> CTTY PRN > > Yep, CTTY it is. It was what you used (with a serial port) to bootstrap INTERSVR onto the other machine. For those who don't remember, it was a way of transparently accessing files on another machine via a serial line, and came free with later versions of DOS. I found it very useful. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2020-11-23 11:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <XnsAC7E75FC9FF08admin127001@144.76.35.198> |
| In reply to | #215353 |
On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 14:32:46 GMT, Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> wrote: > On Wed, 18 Nov 2020 15:51:39 +0200, Anssi Saari wrote: > >> Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> writes: >> >>> On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:42:37 +0000, Andy Burns wrote: >>> >>>> Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: >>>> >>>>> Carlos wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>>>>> printer, >>>>> >>>>> Something about copy con prn >>>>> >>>>> ? >>>> >>>> mode lpt1:=con: >>>> >>>> maybe? >>> >>> CTTY PRN >> >> Yep, CTTY it is. > > It was what you used (with a serial port) to bootstrap INTERSVR onto the > other machine. > > For those who don't remember, it was a way of transparently accessing > files on another machine via a serial line, and came free with later > versions of DOS. I found it very useful. > You had to make up a null-modem cable though. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 22:07 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <pkqd8h-1mn.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #215328 |
On 17/11/2020 19.42, Andy Burns wrote: > Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: > >> Carlos wrote: >> >>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>> printer, >> >> Something about copy con prn >> >> ? > > mode lpt1:=con: > > maybe? Maybe. As I said, I don't remember: it happened on 1992 or 93. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | "Carlos E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 19:43 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <48id8h-66h.ln1@Telcontar.valinor> |
| In reply to | #215327 |
On 17/11/2020 19.35, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: > On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 19:59:14 GMT, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:09:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>> On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: >>>> On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>>>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&old >>>>>> id=973653121#Line_editors >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >>>>>> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >>>>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>>>> >>>>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>>>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination >>>> made a sort of TTY interface? >>> >>> Yep. >>> >>> There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>> printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one >>> it was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I >>> even had a paper manual. > > Something about > > copy con prn "con" and "prn" were part of the line, that I remember. But not the copy command. -- Cheers, Carlos.
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 20:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20201117201435.1705070bb1e3e2f0f4fc641f@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #215327 |
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:35:37 -0000 (UTC) "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > copy con prn Some kind of scam involving copies of porn sites ? -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | maus <maus@dmaus.org> |
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| Date | 2020-11-18 08:44 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnrr9nmo.2ec.maus@dmaus.org> |
| In reply to | #215335 |
On 2020-11-17, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote: > On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:35:37 -0000 (UTC) > "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > >> copy con prn > > Some kind of scam involving copies of porn sites ? > I have a book om LaTeX on my desktoop, causes comments when the nurse calls. There was something in Amigados like 'copy * [filename]' which I once entered in a golf competition as the smallest wordprocessor. golf as in 'smallest program that does anything'. -- greymausg@mail.com
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2020-12-21 12:24 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87eejjm5qs.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #215335 |
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 20:14:35 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:35:37 -0000 (UTC) > "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> wrote: > >> copy con prn > > Some kind of scam involving copies of porn sites ? That you need to run on an M6809 (or others) CPU, which has SEX as an opcode. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SEX_(computing) -- Andreas https://news-commentaries.blogspot.com/
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-11-17 21:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i1is6sFh280U21@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215327 |
On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:35:37 +0000, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: > On Sun, 15 Nov 2020 19:59:14 GMT, JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 20:09:48 +0100, "Carlos E.R." >> <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >>>On 14/11/2020 16.52, Dallas wrote: >>>> On 11/14/2020 5:53 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote: >>>>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>>>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&old >>>>>> id=973653121#Line_editors >>>>>> >>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor and it brought back to my >>>>>> mind my many days of using some of them, especially EDLIN and ed >>>>> >>>>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>>>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> That was clever of you! So the keyboard / printer combination made >>>> a sort of TTY interface? >>> >>>Yep. >>> >>>There was a command in MsDOS that would redirect the console to the >>>printer, which I first had to type blind. I don't remember which one it >>>was. I had an older computer where I could look it up, or perhaps I >>>even had a paper manual. > > Something about > > copy con prn Nope. CTTY PRN -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> |
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| Date | 2020-12-21 12:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <87blenm5l2.fsf@usenet.ankman.de> |
| In reply to | #215336 |
On 17 Nov 2020 21:04:28 GMT, Bob Eager wrote: > > On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:35:37 +0000, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: > >> Something about >> >> copy con prn > > Nope. > > CTTY PRN City porn? Later made popular on TV with "Sex and the city". -- Andreas PGP fingerprint 952B0A9F12C2FD6C9F7E68DAA9C2EA89D1A370E0
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| From | Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> |
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| Date | 2020-12-21 16:00 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <907237524.630283996.261468.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> |
| In reply to | #215600 |
Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> wrote: > On 17 Nov 2020 21:04:28 GMT, Bob Eager wrote: >> >> On Tue, 17 Nov 2020 18:35:37 +0000, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote: >> >>> Something about >>> >>> copy con prn >> >> Nope. >> >> CTTY PRN > > City porn? Later made popular on TV with "Sex and the city". Mabe Kitty Porn, funny pictures of cats. -- Pete
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 21:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ropgml01bj@news4.newsguy.com> |
| In reply to | #215245 |
On 2020-11-14, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: > >> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >> >> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >> especially EDLIN and ed > > Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit > autoexec.bat or config.sys. Ah, good old edlin - sufficiently similar to CP/M's ed that you could start using it immediately, and sufficiently different that you would soon hurt yourself. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | "Some of you may die, \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | but it's sacrifice X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | I'm willing to make." / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Lord Farquaad (Shrek)
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| From | Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 15:15 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <rophdo$h7u$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215267 |
On 11/14/2020 3:03 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: > On 2020-11-14, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: > >> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >> >>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >>> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >>> especially EDLIN and ed >> >> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >> autoexec.bat or config.sys. > > Ah, good old edlin - sufficiently similar to CP/M's ed that you > could start using it immediately, and sufficiently different that > you would soon hurt yourself. > The very first line editors I used got complicated when the file you were editing could not fit entirely into the buffer. You had to do a crude paging of a large file to access the entirety of it.
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 21:33 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i1b0ofFh280U9@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215269 |
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 15:15:35 -0600, Dallas wrote: > On 11/14/2020 3:03 PM, Charlie Gibbs wrote: >> On 2020-11-14, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote: >> >>> On 14/11/2020 01.10, Dallas wrote: >>> >>>> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor and it brought back to my >>>> mind my many days of using some of them, >>>> especially EDLIN and ed >>> >>> Once when my monitor broke I used edlin with a printer to edit >>> autoexec.bat or config.sys. >> >> Ah, good old edlin - sufficiently similar to CP/M's ed that you could >> start using it immediately, and sufficiently different that you would >> soon hurt yourself. >> >> > The very first line editors I used got complicated when the file you > were editing could not fit entirely into the buffer. > > You had to do a crude paging of a large file to access the entirety of > it. I remember the way you split large files into smaller parts using a form feed character; that was on TECO. The CHEF editor I mentioned did it is a similar way to 'ed'; that is, it spilled the file to disk. CHEF used extra space in that file for undo information. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | songbird <songbird@anthive.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 08:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <i3158h-2m2.ln1@anthive.com> |
| In reply to | #215237 |
Dallas wrote: > I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor > > and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, especially EDLIN and ed > > There was a line editor on the CDC 6600 at UT Austin that I used via a TTY, in the early 1970's but > I forget what it was called. @ED was on the univacs we were using. it had a macro language so you could do a lot more than simple editing. i had quite a pile of macros to use by the time the project i was working on finished up. all of those are gone now as too the box of printouts i kept and hauled around for years. the punch cards i only moved 20 times and then finally got rid of them. songbird
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| From | Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 14:51 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20201114145149.b6e51f913b93c5559484b333@eircom.net> |
| In reply to | #215237 |
On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600 Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote: > I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" > > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor > > and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, > especially EDLIN and ed i recall using ZED on the Cambridge 370 - it was called ZED because it was "The last word in line editors". -- Steve O'Hara-Smith | Directable Mirror Arrays C:\>WIN | A better way to focus the sun The computer obeys and wins. | licences available see You lose and Bill collects. | http://www.sohara.org/
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| From | Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 15:30 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <i1abh2Fh280U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #215251 |
On Sat, 14 Nov 2020 14:51:49 +0000, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600 Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote: > >> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >> >> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >> especially EDLIN and ed > > i recall using ZED on the Cambridge 370 - it was called ZED because > it was "The last word in line editors". I have a copy of that. -- Using UNIX since v6 (1975)... Use the BIG mirror service in the UK: http://www.mirrorservice.org
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| From | Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2020-11-14 12:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <rop4ef$f5o$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #215251 |
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes: > On Fri, 13 Nov 2020 18:10:47 -0600 > Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> wrote: > >> I tripped across this list of so-called "line editors" >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_text_editors&oldid=973653121#Line_editors >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_editor >> >> and it brought back to my mind my many days of using some of them, >> especially EDLIN and ed > > i recall using ZED on the Cambridge 370 - it was called ZED because > it was "The last word in line editors". You guys must have more patience than I do. The first line editor I saw was ed on my first UNIX assignment at Bell Labs. Some co-worker suggested that a paper terminal and ed would be a good way to edit mainframe code. I wasn't having any of that, so I hunted down a copy of Emacs and grabbed an HP 2621 terminal and I was a happy camper. I only spent a few minutes in ed before I rejected it. If not for Emacs, I would have put up with using one of the shared 3270s attached to IMS where they had a home grown full screen editor. -- Dan Espen
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