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Re: Who Knew ?

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  Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-01 13:52 -0400
    Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-01 21:40 +0000
      Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-01 19:27 -0400
        Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-02 05:19 +0000
    Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-01 17:38 -0700
    Re: Who Knew ? Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2021-11-02 00:21 -0400
      Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 19:09 +0000
    Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-02 00:11 -0400
      Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-02 06:17 +0000
        Re: Who Knew ? Niklas Karlsson <nikke.karlsson@gmail.com> - 2021-11-02 10:16 +0000
        Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 00:27 -0400
          Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-03 07:26 +0000
            Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
              Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-03 19:58 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 21:34 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 09:51 -0700
                    Re: Who Knew ? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-11-04 15:37 -0400
                      Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:13 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:22 -0500
                      Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:22 +0000
                      Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 12:05 -0500
                        Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-05 08:20 -1000
                  Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:02 -0700
                    Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:26 +0000
                      Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:25 -0500
                      Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 19:10 -0400
                        Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 21:43 -0400
                            Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-05 08:53 +0000
                              Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 11:38 +0000
                              Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 13:30 -0400
                            Re: Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-05 18:23 +0000
                              Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:37 +0000
                                Re: Who Knew ? Churchillian version John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-05 20:02 +0000
                              Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:14 -0400
                        Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:26 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:47 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000
                            Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:17 -0400
                              Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 21:50 +0000
                                Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
                                  Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-06 19:07 +0000
                                Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-06 11:31 +0000
                                  Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-06 15:14 +0000
                                    Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-06 16:45 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
                    Re: Who Knew ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-11-05 22:43 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:05 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:19 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 20:13 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
                      Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
                      Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 11:40 +0000
                        Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-05 14:09 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:53 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 17:40 +0000
                            Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:18 +0000
                              Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 20:04 +0000
                                Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-05 23:52 +0000
                                  Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-06 05:13 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:16 +0000
              Re: Who Knew ? "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> - 2021-11-04 07:17 -0700
                Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-04 15:47 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 20:34 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-m46-this> - 2021-11-05 07:08 -0800
                    Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-07 15:43 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 16:17 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-04 17:19 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 22:18 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-11-04 19:21 -0300
                    Re: Who Knew ? Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> - 2021-11-05 05:46 +0000
                      Re: Who Knew ? Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2021-11-05 04:01 -0300
                    Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:27 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
                    Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:29 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-04 15:12 -0500
                Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
            Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-03 21:02 -0400
              Re: Who Knew ? Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-11-04 00:01 -0500
                Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:09 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 13:49 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:11 -0700
                  Re: Who Knew ? Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2021-11-04 10:16 -0700
                  Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-04 17:31 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-04 13:04 -0500
                      Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:58 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-04 17:47 -1000
                      Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 15:07 +0000
                      Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
                        Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 14:42 -0500
                    Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-04 17:53 -1000
                      Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 13:33 -0400
                      Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:28 -0700
                        Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-05 10:06 -1000
                          Re: Who Knew ? Robert Swindells <rjs@fdy2.co.uk> - 2021-11-06 15:38 +0000
                        Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 17:39 -0400
                          Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
                            Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 19:33 -0400
                              Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 12:17 -0500
                                Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 14:45 -0400
                                  Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 15:28 -0500
                                    Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-06 18:52 -0400
                                      Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 08:54 -0600
                                        Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 10:07 -0500
                            Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-06 08:26 -1000
                        Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 22:05 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700
                    Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 12:04 -0700
                  Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 18:32 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-06 19:25 -0500
                    Re: Who Knew ? gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-07 11:20 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 08:55 -0600
                      Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 10:15 -0500
                      Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-07 23:44 -0600
                        Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-08 15:39 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-11-08 17:06 +0000
                            Re: Who Knew ? lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom (Lawrence Statton (NK1G)) - 2021-11-09 19:06 -0600
                        Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 09:51 -0600
                        Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-08 10:52 -0700
                          Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-08 19:14 +0000
                            Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-08 12:09 -1000
                              Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:38 -0600
                              Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-09 15:30 +0000
                                Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 14:57 -0600
                                  Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:03 +0000
                              Re: Who Knew ? Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-11-11 17:02 -1000
                            Re: Alternate Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-08 22:22 +0000
                          Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 18:07 -0500
                            Re: military options, was Who Knew ? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-09 01:58 +0000
                              Re: military options, was Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 23:17 -0500
                                Re: military options, was Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-09 10:02 -0500
                              Re: military options, was Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:51 -0600
                          Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-08 22:35 -0600
                            Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 09:09 -0600
                          Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2021-11-14 18:45 +0100
                            Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 12:39 -0600
                              Re: Who Knew ? 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-11-15 00:43 -0600
                                Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-16 08:58 -0600
                              Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-16 16:57 -0500
                                Re: Who Knew ? D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 10:54 -0600
                                  Re: Who Knew ? Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-11-17 14:16 -0500
                            Re: Who Knew ? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-11-14 14:32 -0500
              Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-04 05:01 +0000
                Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-04 13:48 +0000
                  Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-04 15:46 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-11-04 15:26 -0400
                Re: Who Knew ? 1p166 <z24ba6.net> - 2021-11-04 23:51 -0400
                  Re: Who Knew ? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-11-05 07:37 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-05 08:54 +0000
                    Re: Who Knew ? scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-11-05 13:49 +0000
              Re: Who Knew ? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2021-11-04 11:08 +0000
          Re: Who Knew ? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-11-03 17:18 +0000
        Re: Who Knew ? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2021-11-05 22:17 +0000
          Re: Who Knew ? Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-11-05 22:46 +0000
          Re: Who Knew ? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-05 15:55 -0700

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#219614

FromMaus <Greymaus@mail.com>
Date2021-11-05 15:16 +0000
Message-ID<slrnsoain6.7q3.Greymaus@dmaus.org>
In reply to#219580
On 2021-11-04, gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 04/11/2021 11:05, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
>> On 03/11/2021 19:58, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>> For sure, both of those speak to deep rooted truths about human
>>> nature - sad really. Just wait till we get sentient robots and reinvent
>>> slavery.
>>
>> We never lost slavery. We just use poverty and  debt, not chains.
>>
>
> It is strange that the current wokery about removing the symbolism
> of slavery, pulling down statues or renaming educational establishments,
> continues to support the descendant spawn of the Norman invaders who
> subjugated our ancestors into the slavery of serfdom

Wokery, I think, is somewhat correct. Onne should remember that the
Devon sailors who singed the Spanish King's beard, started off as slave
traders. The Saxons had slaves as well.



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#219562

From"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this>
Date2021-11-04 07:17 -0700
Message-ID<6183EC48.352.news.afc@realitycheckbbs.org>
In reply to#219551
  To: Charlie Gibbs
-=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers <=-

 CG> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and
 CG> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're
 CG> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been
 CG> replaced by social media.

Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)

         kurt weiske | kweiske at realitycheckbbs dot org
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#219564

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2021-11-04 15:47 +0000
Message-ID<HgTgJ.17842$lz3.2686@fx34.iad>
In reply to#219562
"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> writes:
>  To: Charlie Gibbs
>-=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
>comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers <=-
>
> CG> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and
> CG> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're
> CG> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been
> CG> replaced by social media.
>
>Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)
>

They may already have a SOMA[*] office.  Many tech companies
have offices there.


[*] south of market area

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#219583

FromBob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date2021-11-04 20:34 +0000
Message-ID<iuiueaFqi9U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#219564
On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 15:47:51 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> writes:
>>  To: Charlie Gibbs
>>-=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
>>comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers <=-
>>
>> CG> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and CG>
>> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're CG>
>> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been CG> replaced
>> by social media.
>>
>>Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)
>>
>>
> They may already have a SOMA[*] office.  Many tech companies have
> offices there.
> 
> 
> [*] south of market area

I was thinking of SOcial MediA.



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#219590

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2021-11-04 23:27 +0000
Message-ID<s%ZgJ.10013$zF3.8080@fx03.iad>
In reply to#219583
On 2021-11-04, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

> On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 15:47:51 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>
>> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> writes:
>>
>>> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
>>> comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers
>>>
>>>> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and
>>>> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're
>>>> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been
>>>> replaced by social media.
>>>
>>> Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)
>>
>> They may already have a SOMA[*] office.  Many tech companies have
>> offices there.
>> 
>> [*] south of market area
>
> I was thinking of SOcial MediA.

Good one.  :-)

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#219677

From"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-m46-this>
Date2021-11-05 07:08 -0800
Message-ID<6187DF5B.464.news.afc@realitycheckbbs.org>
In reply to#219564
  To: scott
-=> scott wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-

 sc> They may already have a SOMA[*] office.  Many tech companies
 sc> have offices there.

I used to work in SOMA for many years, starting in the Multimedia Gulch 
days - I don't think they have an office there, but most companies prefer to 
have a SF mailing address, somewhere.

They were working on a proper campus on Marsh Road in Menlo Park or Palo 
Alto, with housing and commercial spaces. Sounds great, until you're laid 
off and need to move.

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#219682

Fromscott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date2021-11-07 15:43 +0000
Message-ID<duShJ.33577$VS2.22892@fx44.iad>
In reply to#219677
"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-m46-this> writes:
>  To: scott
>-=> scott wrote to alt.folklore.computers <=-
>
> sc> They may already have a SOMA[*] office.  Many tech companies
> sc> have offices there.
>
>I used to work in SOMA for many years, starting in the Multimedia Gulch 
>days - I don't think they have an office there, but most companies prefer to 
>have a SF mailing address, somewhere.
>
>They were working on a proper campus on Marsh Road in Menlo Park or Palo 
>Alto, with housing and commercial spaces. Sounds great, until you're laid 
>off and need to move.

East Palo Alto.  Used to be known as Sun Quentin before Facebook bought it.

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#219565

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-11-04 16:17 +0000
Message-ID<20211104161746.101ea7daa45fcd6f45e3d5bd@eircom.net>
In reply to#219562
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 07:17:00 -0700
"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> wrote:

>   To: Charlie Gibbs
> -=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
> comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers <=-
> 
>  CG> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and
>  CG> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're
>  CG> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been
>  CG> replaced by social media.
> 
> Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)

	https://soylent.com/ - No this is not a joke

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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#219570

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2021-11-04 17:19 +0000
Message-ID<RCUgJ.86380$831.75214@fx40.iad>
In reply to#219565
On 2021-11-04, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 07:17:00 -0700
> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> wrote:
>
>>   To: Charlie Gibbs
>> -=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
>> comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers <=-
>> 
>>> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and
>>> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're
>>> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been
>>> replaced by social media.
>> 
>> Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)

Maybe the inventors of the Soma cube puzzle

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soma_cube

might sue them.

Rumour has it that the puzzle was named after Huxley's drug.

A friend played with it a lot in the early '70s,
and subscribed to a newsletter whose trademark
was a 2 x 2 x 7 tower with one cube missing.
Originally this was a very stable structure,
but my friend found a way to build it in a very
unstable form.  He liked to think that there
was a lot of screaming when the newsletter editors
read his letter explaining what he had done.

> 	https://soylent.com/ - No this is not a joke

That web site sets some sort of JavaScript record.
I had to tell NoScript to "Temporarily allow all
this page" half a dozen times before I could see
the whole thing.

I didn't find Soylent Green, although their
mint chocolate flavour comes close...

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Life is perverse.
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  It can be beautiful -
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  but it won't.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Lily Tomlin

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#219585

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-11-04 22:18 +0000
Message-ID<20211104221809.7f3625315f3843105396b5fe@eircom.net>
In reply to#219570
On Thu, 04 Nov 2021 17:19:45 GMT
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> wrote:

> I didn't find Soylent Green, although their
> mint chocolate flavour comes close...

	You won't find Soylent Green in the book either.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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#219584

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2021-11-04 19:21 -0300
Message-ID<87ee7vbm06.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#219565
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:

> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 07:17:00 -0700
> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> wrote:
> 
>> Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)
> 
> 	https://soylent.com/ - No this is not a joke

But is it Green?

Clinging doggedly to the notion of literary allusion, would it sell
better if they called it Heracliophorbia?  Or Filboid Studge?

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#219598

FromLeonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net>
Date2021-11-05 05:46 +0000
Message-ID<iujuqdFagieU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#219584
On 2021-11-04, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:

> Clinging doggedly to the notion of literary allusion, would it sell
> better if they called it Heracliophorbia?  Or Filboid Studge?


I've monitored this group for 25 years but don't think I've ever posted.
I've always run a Mac, and there is little to no Mac traffic here.
Without googling, I do know what Filboid Studge is, one of many great
Saki stories. 

<https://postimg.cc/GHkV2D84>

Without googling, I have no idea what heracliophorbia is.

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#219599

FromMike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date2021-11-05 04:01 -0300
Message-ID<875yt7axxd.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to#219598
Leonard Blaisdell <leoblaisdell@sbcglobal.net> writes:

> On 2021-11-04, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
> 
>> Clinging doggedly to the notion of literary allusion, would it sell
>> better if they called it Heracliophorbia?  Or Filboid Studge?
> 
> I've monitored this group for 25 years but don't think I've ever posted.

Well, about time then, eh?

> I've always run a Mac, and there is little to no Mac traffic here.

Some might say that Macs are barely old enough, even now, to be
folklore.  Take heart, time flies. :-)

> Without googling, I do know what Filboid Studge is, one of many great
> Saki stories. 

Just so.  Full text at:

https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Filboid_Studge,_the_Story_of_a_Mouse_That_Helped

> <https://postimg.cc/GHkV2D84>
> 
> Without googling, I have no idea what heracliophorbia is.

H.G. Wells, The Food of the Gods.


     It'th the earwigth Thir,  it'th the earwigth!

-- 
Mike Spencer                  Nova Scotia, Canada

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#219616

FromMaus <Greymaus@mail.com>
Date2021-11-05 15:27 +0000
Message-ID<slrnsoajbp.7q3.Greymaus@dmaus.org>
In reply to#219584
On 2021-11-04, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote:
>
> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>
>> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 07:17:00 -0700
>> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> wrote:
>> 
>>> Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)
>> 
>> 	https://soylent.com/ - No this is not a joke
>
> But is it Green?
>
> Clinging doggedly to the notion of literary allusion, would it sell
> better if they called it Heracliophorbia?  Or Filboid Studge?
>

Or Quorn?


-- 
greymausg@mail.com
That's not a mousehole!

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#219588

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
Message-ID<1761783689.657759809.848052.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#219565
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 07:17:00 -0700
> "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> wrote:
> 
>> To: Charlie Gibbs
>> -=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
>> comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers <=-
>> 
>>> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and
>>> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're
>>> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been
>>> replaced by social media.
>> 
>> Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)
> 
> 	https://soylent.com/ - No this is not a joke
> 

Either they don’t watch movies, or they’re counting on others not watching.

-- 
Pete

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#219600

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2021-11-05 07:29 +0000
Message-ID<20211105072924.a1002c376d53c41a1a05079f@eircom.net>
In reply to#219588
On Thu, 4 Nov 2021 16:11:55 -0700
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

> > 	https://soylent.com/ - No this is not a joke
> > 
> 
> Either they don’t watch movies, or they’re counting on others not
> watching.

	They are fully aware that they got the word from "Make Room, Make
Room" just as the film did.


-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith
Odds and Ends at http://www.sohara.org/

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#219579

From711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart>
Date2021-11-04 15:12 -0500
Message-ID<sm1eo1$njm$1@gioia.aioe.org>
In reply to#219562
On 11/4/21 9:17 AM, Kurt Weiske wrote:
>   To: Charlie Gibbs
> -=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
> comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers <=-
> 
>  CG> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and
>  CG> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're
>  CG> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been
>  CG> replaced by social media.


Big Brother says, "Drink your fluoride. Take your shots. Don't ask
questions. There will never be a lethal round of those mandatory
boosters shots. We promise. We're here to save you by culling--er, um,
ahem--reducing the population."

-- 
──┏━━━━┓──┏━━┓───┏━━┓──  ┌────────────────────────┐ ┌────────┐
──┗━━┓─┃──┗┓─┃───┗┓─┃──  │ Spooky Mart [chan] 711 │ │ always │
─────┃─┃──┏┛─┗┓──┏┛─┗┓─  │ https://bitmessage.org │ │  open  │
─────┗━┛──┗━━━┛──┗━━━┛─  └────────────────────────┘ └────────┘

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#219587

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2021-11-04 16:11 -0700
Message-ID<1331756789.657759748.161930.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#219562
Kurt Weiske <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-n7j-this> wrote:
>   To: Charlie Gibbs
> -=> Charlie Gibbs wrote to
> comp.os.linux.misc,comp.os.linix,alt.folklore.computers <=-
> 
>  CG> My wife and I just finished re-reading both _Animal Farm_ and
>  CG> _Brave New World_.  Both are frighteningly close to what we're
>  CG> seeing today, although _Brave New World's_ "soma" has been
>  CG> replaced by social media.
> 
> Imagine if Facebook chose "Soma" as their new name...   :)
> 
>          kurt weiske | kweiske at realitycheckbbs dot org
>                      | https://realitycheckbbs.org
> 
> 			
> 
> ... Discover your formulas and abandon them
> --- MultiMail/DOS v0.52
> --- Synchronet 3.19a-Win32 NewsLink 1.113
>  *  realitycheckBBS - Aptos, CA - telnet://realitycheckbbs.org
> 

Apparently there’s a lawsuit about “Meta.”

-- 
Pete

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#219554

From1p166 <z24ba6.net>
Date2021-11-03 21:02 -0400
Message-ID<wIadnSSQpq-GrB78nZ2dnUU7-cfNnZ2d@earthlink.com>
In reply to#219549
On 11/3/21 3:26 AM, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2021 00:27:54 -0400
> 1p166 <z24ba6.net> wrote:
> 
>>     The Big Money people had this figured out LONG
>>     ago - centuries ago actually. Even Machivelli
>>     understood the utility of cultivating those
>>     fake "sides".
> 
> 	Sadly this and all above it is all too true - the lessons of
> Machiavelli and Sun Tzu are well understood by the major players and have
> been polished for centuries into a smooth art. In a similar vein I fairly
> recently re-read Orwell's 1984 and found it shockingly simplistic and naive,
> that was a sobering discovery.

   It used to be the politicians/priesthood, but then
   the ADVERTISERS came - and post-WW2 undertook what
   you might call the "science of salesmanship", lots
   of psych experiments designed to yield objective
   data. What motivates people, in what ways, how much,
   how long ... they made manipulation a science.  And
   then the politicians/priesthood (esp evangelicals)
   borrowed all that data.

   I'll rec a somewhat old book to you - it can still
   be had. It was writ in the late 50s by a polymath
   named Jaques Ellul and called "The Technological
   Society". It was not about computers - it was about
   the growth of science-informed psychological
   manipulation by State and private entities. The
   original was in French, but the English translation
   is perfectly readable, albeit with some rather odd
   wording at times.

   Hmm ... I wonder what Obama's "Brain Initiative" was
   REALLY supposed to find out  :-)


> 	The indoctrination for it starts in the earliest school with "What's
> your favourite colour" and gets strengthened outside the classroom with
> "Who do you support".
> 
> 	I remain thankful that Hermann Göring's astute observation on the
> ease of raising war fever is not widely utilised today - I remain slightly
> suspicious about the Falkland's War being a field test of the principle, it
> was certainly a good demonstration if not.
> 

   Goebbels ... Goring's interests rarely strayed from killing
   people .......

   Goebbels was a very GOOD propagandist ... but fortunately
   his instincts and insights were mostly limited to German
   culture. His stuff never translated very well.

   But if Goebbels had the wealth of scientific data the
   Mad Men compiled ...

   Anyway, the MS/Apple "duality" is a sort of deliberate
   scam. You pick a side and are encouraged to feel all
   superior about it, hurl distain at "those OTHERS".
   Meanwhile the big investors buy stock in BOTH companies
   and encourage the 'competition' illusion.

   Besides we Linux people know WE are the best  :-)

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#219555

FromDave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date2021-11-04 00:01 -0500
Message-ID<slvpfk$ach$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#219554
On 11/3/2021 8:02 PM, 1p166 wrote:

>    Goebbels ... Goring's interests rarely strayed from killing
>    people .......

Goebbels was a good propagandist. Goering (former fighter ace) was 
more of a junkie who was self-important. His was a perceptive observation:

> Naturally, the common people don't want war ... but after all it is the leaders of a country who determine the policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in every country.
> Hermann Goring

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