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Is the Eternal September over

Started byJason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com>
First post2020-08-08 13:34 +0000
Last post2020-08-11 23:20 +0000
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  Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-08 13:34 +0000
    Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 12:16 -0400
      Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-08 16:23 +0000
        Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:34 -0400
          Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:41 -0400
            Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 16:21 -0400
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 13:38 -0400
        Re: Is the Eternal September over hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2020-08-17 12:47 -0700
      Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-08-08 16:14 -0400
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-09 20:06 +0200
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:46 +0000
      Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garrett <dave@compassnet.com> - 2020-08-08 18:53 -0500
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-08 20:43 -0400
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 08:03 +0000
          Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 08:25 -0400
            Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 14:32 +0100
              Re: Is the Eternal September over Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-08-10 01:15 +0000
            Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 14:01 +0000
              Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 10:40 -0400
                Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-09 14:57 +0000
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:48 -0400
                Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 11:09 -0400
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 15:15 +0000
                    Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-09 16:32 +0000
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 17:46 +0100
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:54 -0400
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over snipeco.2@gmail.com (Sn!pe) - 2020-08-09 19:58 +0100
                    Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 13:18 -0400
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-09 20:09 +0200
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:34 -0400
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-08-10 16:01 +0200
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-10 15:00 -0400
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 21:25 +0100
                            Re: EU, was Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-10 12:33 -0700
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 15:30 -0700
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-09 17:41 +0100
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 10:07 -0700
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 14:50 -0400
                    Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 19:52 +0000
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-09 17:06 -0400
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-09 21:56 +0000
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 15:30 -0700
                      UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) lawrence <lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom> - 2020-08-10 14:48 -0500
                        Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-10 13:05 -0700
                          Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-10 18:19 -0400
                        Re: UK / EU split (was Re: Is the Eternal September over) Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 21:38 +0100
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-08-10 01:16 +0000
                Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-09 10:07 -0700
                Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-13 09:57 +0200
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 08:01 -0400
                    Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 14:33 +0000
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 10:46 -0400
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 10:40 -0500
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 11:49 -0400
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:24 +0100
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:05 +0000
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 17:04 +0000
                            Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-13 22:57 +0000
                              Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
                                Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-14 02:48 +0000
                                Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-16 11:45 +0200
                                  Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 07:37 -0400
                                  Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-08-16 16:00 +0000
                                    Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-08-23 12:25 +0200
                                  Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 09:16 +0100
                              Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 21:11 -0400
                                Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                                  Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-14 17:06 -0500
                                    Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 22:45 +0000
                                    Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 20:29 -0300
                                      Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-15 17:44 +0000
                                      Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2020-08-15 22:52 -0400
                                        Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-16 03:40 +0000
                                        Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-15 23:51 -0400
                                    Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over greymaus@smaus.org - 2020-08-15 07:44 +0000
                                Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
                                  Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 16:04 -0400
                                    Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 20:18 -0300
                                      Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 21:15 -0400
                                  Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 17:08 -0300
                                    Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-15 07:56 +0100
                                      Re: The ideal Language, or Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-15 10:25 +0000
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-13 17:02 +0000
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 18:50 +0100
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2020-08-13 14:59 -0700
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 23:01 -0500
                                Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 22:55 +0000
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 22:46 +0000
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-16 19:22 -0500
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 09:53 -0700
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 13:27 -0400
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 17:58 -0400
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 10:06 -0500
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-13 22:41 +0100
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-13 17:12 -0700
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2020-08-13 21:45 -0400
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:37 +0000
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over jtmpreno <none@znet.com> - 2020-08-13 20:54 -0700
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 04:03 +0000
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 06:14 -0400
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-14 11:57 +0100
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:19 +0000
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                                Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 16:12 +0100
                                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 11:46 -0700
                                    Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:07 +0000
                                      Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-16 11:22 -0500
                                Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:03 +0000
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-14 18:45 +0000
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:42 -0300
                                Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 13:42 -0700
                                  Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-15 23:10 +0000
                                    Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 09:21 +0100
                                      Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 09:46 +0100
                                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 11:14 +0100
                                          Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 11:33 +0100
                                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
                                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:37 +0100
                                          Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:36 +0000
                                        Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:34 +0000
                                      Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-17 10:25 -0700
                                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-17 19:42 +0100
                                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-18 11:17 -0700
                                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2020-08-18 19:41 +0100
                                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-08-18 04:19 -0500
                                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-18 11:31 -0700
                                        Re: Is the Eternal September over maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-08-18 14:45 +0000
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:43 -0400
                                Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:49 -0300
                                Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:50 -0500
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-08-14 16:31 -0300
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2020-08-14 01:40 +0000
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-09-08 16:37 +0200
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-08 14:42 +0000
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-08 15:42 +0000
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 11:56 -0400
                              Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-08 19:23 +0000
                                Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 15:47 -0400
                                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Rink <rink.hof.haalditmaarweg@planet.nl> - 2020-10-04 21:38 +0200
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-09 18:28 -0400
          Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-10 15:33 +0000
            Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-10 17:16 +0100
            Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:40 +0100
              Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-14 11:22 +0000
      Re: Is the Eternal September over David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2020-08-31 23:17 +0000
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-09-01 01:19 +0000
          Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-01 04:40 +0000
            Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-09-01 20:21 +0000
          Re: Is the Eternal September over Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-01 01:55 -0300
          Re: Is the Eternal September over Anssi Saari <as@sci.fi> - 2020-09-01 09:36 +0300
    Re: Is the Eternal September over scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-08-10 15:30 +0000
    Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 17:47 +0000
      Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-11 11:26 -0700
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 18:37 +0000
          Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 15:46 -0400
            Re: Is the Eternal September over Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-08-11 19:58 +0000
              Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 18:44 -0400
            Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 16:20 -0400
              Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-12 19:23 +0000
                Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 17:37 -0400
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-13 21:05 +0000
                    Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 18:12 -0400
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-13 19:08 -0400
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2020-08-13 23:15 -0500
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-14 07:13 -0700
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 13:44 -0400
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 10:08 -0500
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-08-14 03:42 +0000
                    Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 06:25 -0400
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 18:18 +0000
                        Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-14 15:57 -0400
                          Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-14 21:01 +0000
                            Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-23 16:54 -0400
            Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 21:34 +0000
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-11 19:56 +0100
          Re: Is the Eternal September over Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-08-11 19:13 +0000
          Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 22:53 +0000
            Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 19:17 -0400
        Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-12 07:01 +0000
      Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-11 18:39 +0000
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-11 20:28 +0100
          Re: Is the Eternal September over "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@127.0.0.1> - 2020-08-12 07:12 +0000
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-11 22:53 +0000
      Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 15:06 -0400
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:35 +0000
          Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
        Re: Is the Eternal September over Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-11 17:29 -0700
          Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 20:30 -0400
          Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 21:44 -0400
            Re: Is the Eternal September over J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-08-11 21:50 -0400
              Re: Is the Eternal September over Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-08-12 06:50 -0400
              Re: Is the Eternal September over Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-08-12 18:02 +0000
          Re: Is the Eternal September over gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-08-12 14:50 +0100
            Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-12 15:56 +0100
              Re: Is the Eternal September over Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-08-12 15:26 +0000
                Re: Is the Eternal September over Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2020-08-12 15:41 +0000
                Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-08-12 17:47 +0100
                  Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
                    Re: Is the Eternal September over Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-02 09:41 +0100
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over Neodome Admin <admin@neodome.net> - 2020-09-06 01:02 +0000
                    Re: Is the Eternal September over Neodome Admin <admin@neodome.net> - 2020-09-06 01:02 +0000
                      Re: Is the Eternal September over usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2020-09-08 02:29 +0000
          Re: Is the Eternal September over lawrence <lawrenabe@abaluon.com> - 2020-08-12 14:59 -0500
      Re: Is the Eternal September over Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> - 2020-08-11 23:20 +0000

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#212694

FromJorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
Date2020-08-12 15:26 +0000
Message-ID<slrnrj82h8.kpi.grahn+nntp@frailea.sa.invalid>
In reply to#212693
On Wed, 2020-08-12, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 14:50:46 +0100
> gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> On 12/08/2020 01:29, Peter Flass wrote:
>> >
>> > They’re not legally responsible for user-posted content.
>> >
>>
>> But, yes, I agree, the postal services are not reponsible for
>> the contents of what they carry and that same principle should be
>> extended to ISPs.
>
> 	ISPs have always claimed 'common carrier' status and declined any
> responsibility for the actions of their users, which in the days of
> dial-up ISPs hosting small websites, mail lists and USENET for their users
> was sensible. What is going on now is that this is being challenged by cases
> being brought against the big social media companies. As I see it their
> trouble is going to be that they are *already* filtering and blocking
> people and imposing conditions on content after the content has already
> been published.

If I were Facebook or Google, I would be secretly delighted by such
responsibilities: it must be hard for a small actor today to afford
the censorship, either software filters or human censors.

If Usenet somehow became more popular and useful again, someone would
come along and crush it.

/Jorgen

-- 
  // Jorgen Grahn <grahn@  Oo  o.   .     .
\X/     snipabacken.se>   O  o   .

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#212695

FromJason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com>
Date2020-08-12 15:41 +0000
Message-ID<rh12id$dmc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#212694
On 12 Aug 2020 15:26:32 GMT, Jorgen Grahn wrote:

> If Usenet somehow became more popular and useful again, someone would
> come along and crush it.

They could take the big backbone servers offline whose entire business 
model is providing a way to download pirated material and calling it 
Usenet. They could possibly even find everyone that hosts smaller text-
only servers though that would be pretty difficult. 

When you read about the early days, Usenet at its true core was always 
about discussion. All you need are 2 or more servers peering and talking 
NNTP to each other and you have a new Usenet.

__
JE

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#212698

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-08-12 17:47 +0100
Message-ID<20200812174703.ef39c620d41d23a540329716@eircom.net>
In reply to#212694
On 12 Aug 2020 15:26:32 GMT
Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:

> If Usenet somehow became more popular and useful again, someone would
> come along and crush it.

	USENET was always hard to crush, as long as there are people
running servers and exchanging feeds USENET is running. I keep thinking it
would be a good thing to do to set one up here (text only of course).

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#213575

Fromusenet@only.tnx (Questor)
Date2020-09-02 07:03 +0000
Message-ID<5f4f43ce.6755584@news.dslextreme.com>
In reply to#212698
On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:47:03 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
wrote:
>On 12 Aug 2020 15:26:32 GMT
>Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>
>> If Usenet somehow became more popular and useful again, someone would
>> come along and crush it.
>
>	USENET was always hard to crush, as long as there are people
>running servers and exchanging feeds USENET is running. I keep thinking it
>would be a good thing to do to set one up here (text only of course).

"Back in the day," every site and nearly every computer hosted its own Usenet
feed.  Now, the ISPs that still offer Usenet access outsource that service to
a handful of third-party providers.  Between them and Google groups, I'd wager
that Usenet is more centralized now than ever before.

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#213584

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2020-09-02 09:41 +0100
Message-ID<20200902094144.391291ecfd44d77452fb2800@eircom.net>
In reply to#213575
On Wed, 02 Sep 2020 07:03:46 GMT
usenet@only.tnx (Questor) wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:47:03 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> >On 12 Aug 2020 15:26:32 GMT
> >Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
> >
> >> If Usenet somehow became more popular and useful again, someone would
> >> come along and crush it.
> >
> >	USENET was always hard to crush, as long as there are people
> >running servers and exchanging feeds USENET is running. I keep thinking
> >it would be a good thing to do to set one up here (text only of course).
> 
> "Back in the day," every site and nearly every computer hosted its own
> Usenet feed.  Now, the ISPs that still offer Usenet access outsource that
> service to a handful of third-party providers.  Between them and Google
> groups, I'd wager that Usenet is more centralized now than ever before.

	It is getting that way (well perhaps since the main transport
stopped being UUCP) - which is why I keep thinking of setting up a text
only node. I don't want to spend time policing trolls and spammers or
provide a playground for them - which is why I'm not running one yet.

-- 
Steve O'Hara-Smith                          |   Directable Mirror Arrays
C:\>WIN                                     | A better way to focus the sun
The computer obeys and wins.                |    licences available see
You lose and Bill collects.                 |    http://www.sohara.org/

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#213820

FromNeodome Admin <admin@neodome.net>
Date2020-09-06 01:02 +0000
Message-ID<rj1cf8$2eif$1@neodome.net>
In reply to#213584
Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Sep 2020 07:03:46 GMT
> usenet@only.tnx (Questor) wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:47:03 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
>> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>>> On 12 Aug 2020 15:26:32 GMT
>>> Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If Usenet somehow became more popular and useful again, someone would
>>>> come along and crush it.
>>> 
>>> USENET was always hard to crush, as long as there are people
>>> running servers and exchanging feeds USENET is running. I keep thinking
>>> it would be a good thing to do to set one up here (text only of course).
>> 
>> "Back in the day," every site and nearly every computer hosted its own
>> Usenet feed.  Now, the ISPs that still offer Usenet access outsource that
>> service to a handful of third-party providers.  Between them and Google
>> groups, I'd wager that Usenet is more centralized now than ever before.
> 
> 	It is getting that way (well perhaps since the main transport
> stopped being UUCP) - which is why I keep thinking of setting up a text
> only node. I don't want to spend time policing trolls and spammers or
> provide a playground for them - which is why I'm not running one yet.

If you change your mind, shoot me a line. I’ll peer with you.

-- 
Neodome

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#213821

FromNeodome Admin <admin@neodome.net>
Date2020-09-06 01:02 +0000
Message-ID<rj1cf9$2eif$2@neodome.net>
In reply to#213575
Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:47:03 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
> wrote:
>> On 12 Aug 2020 15:26:32 GMT
>> Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>> 
>>> If Usenet somehow became more popular and useful again, someone would
>>> come along and crush it.
>> 
>> USENET was always hard to crush, as long as there are people
>> running servers and exchanging feeds USENET is running. I keep thinking it
>> would be a good thing to do to set one up here (text only of course).
> 
> "Back in the day," every site and nearly every computer hosted its own Usenet
> feed.  Now, the ISPs that still offer Usenet access outsource that service to
> a handful of third-party providers.  Between them and Google groups, I'd wager
> that Usenet is more centralized now than ever before.

Nothing prevents you from running your own node.

-- 
Neodome

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#213892

Fromusenet@only.tnx (Questor)
Date2020-09-08 02:29 +0000
Message-ID<5f56ec8a.1674427@news.dslextreme.com>
In reply to#213821
On Sun, 6 Sep 2020 01:02:33 -0000 (UTC), Neodome Admin <admin@neodome.net>
wrote:
>Questor <usenet@only.tnx> wrote:
>> On Wed, 12 Aug 2020 17:47:03 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
>> wrote:
>>> On 12 Aug 2020 15:26:32 GMT
>>> Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If Usenet somehow became more popular and useful again, someone would
>>>> come along and crush it.
>>> 
>>> USENET was always hard to crush, as long as there are people
>>> running servers and exchanging feeds USENET is running. I keep thinking it
>>> would be a good thing to do to set one up here (text only of course).
>> 
>> "Back in the day," every site and nearly every computer hosted its own Usenet
>> feed.  Now, the ISPs that still offer Usenet access outsource that service to
>> a handful of third-party providers.  Between them and Google groups, I'd wager
>> that Usenet is more centralized now than ever before.
>
>Nothing prevents you from running your own node.

In theory, yes; in practice, no.

There are practical reasons why not.  Also, I do not want another hobby.

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#212702

Fromlawrence <lawrenabe@abaluon.com>
Date2020-08-12 14:59 -0500
Message-ID<87bljfoctm.fsf@cluon.com>
In reply to#212682
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> They’re not legally responsible for user-posted content.

Not *now*.

There was a time before Section 230.

--
echo "lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom" | sed -e 's/aba/c/g'

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#212679

FromNomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com>
Date2020-08-11 23:20 +0000
Message-ID<rgv94m$20gu$7@neodome.net>
In reply to#212658
Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> writes:

> On 2020-08-08, Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> wrote:
>
>> If the Eternal September is over and we care about Usenet as a real
>> and living form of communication over the Internet, what are the most 
>> important things that we want newbies (and oldies) to know when they 
>> start using Usenet? 
>
> I wonder whether the question is moot.  How many young people would
> even care about Usenet anymore, even if they knew it existed?  The
> fact that Usenet is text-only is enough to drive most of them away.
> "You mean, like, no pictures?  No videos?  Ewww... gross!"

Retro is trendy nowadays.

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