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"Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust

Started byhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
First post2016-06-15 13:22 -0700
Last post2016-06-18 13:00 +0000
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  "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-15 13:22 -0700
    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-16 12:30 +0000
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-16 13:01 -0700
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 04:21 -0400
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-06-18 18:56 +0000
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-19 13:31 +0000
          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-19 16:59 +0100
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-06-22 16:41 -0500
    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-16 07:58 -0700
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-16 08:13 -0700
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-16 10:38 -0700
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-16 10:44 -0700
          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> - 2016-06-16 10:46 -0700
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-16 13:27 -0700
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-06-16 19:08 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-17 12:51 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-17 14:11 -0700
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-17 21:22 +0000
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 16:47 -0500
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-06-17 23:02 -0700
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-18 09:12 +0000
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-18 11:49 +0200
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-18 15:47 +0000
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-01 19:09 -0700
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-18 17:32 +0100
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 19:07 -0400
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-17 16:33 -0500
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-06-17 17:19 -0500
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-17 19:54 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-18 00:47 +0000
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:48 -0500
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-18 15:44 -0500
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-18 22:40 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-19 05:05 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-20 13:12 -0700
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-01 19:20 -0700
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-17 02:30 +0000
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-16 22:26 +0100
            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-20 13:20 -0700
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-20 19:47 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-21 09:02 +0200
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 04:14 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-21 11:42 +0200
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-21 10:24 +0000
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-21 12:08 +0100
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-21 17:13 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 07:05 -0400
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-21 13:16 +0100
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-21 12:44 -0400
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-21 14:01 -0700
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:20 -0700
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-22 06:35 +0100
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-22 05:43 +0000
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 18:44 -0500
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-22 08:52 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:49 -0500
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-22 13:17 -0400
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:11 -0500
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:22 -0700
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-22 21:03 -0400
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-23 14:17 +0000
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-22 23:47 -0700
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-23 09:11 +0100
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 05:17 -0400
                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-23 07:51 -0400
                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 20:52 -0400
                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-24 12:30 -0700
                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-25 09:03 +0000
                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 05:23 -0400
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-25 19:59 +0000
                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-23 12:10 +0100
                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 13:08 +0000
                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 20:47 -0400
                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-24 12:33 +0000
                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-24 17:14 +0000
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-24 20:13 +0000
                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-24 21:59 +0100
                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-25 08:49 +0000
                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 12:10 +0200
                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 12:00 +0100
                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-25 07:31 -0400
                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 12:40 +0100
                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-06-25 12:05 +0000
                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 14:07 +0200
                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-25 15:31 +0100
                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-25 15:51 +0000
                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-25 19:59 +0000
                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-25 21:45 +0000
                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anonymous <no_email@invalid.invalid> - 2016-06-26 01:16 +0000
                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-25 18:47 +0000
                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 20:12 +0100
                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-28 10:43 +0100
                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-28 08:36 -0400
                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@Last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-28 16:47 +0200
                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-28 19:41 +0000
                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 09:14 +0100
                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-29 10:42 +0200
                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-29 10:04 +0000
                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 12:28 +0100
                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-29 17:52 -0400
                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-29 12:15 +0100
                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-29 15:45 +0200
                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-29 15:29 +0000
                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-29 08:32 -0700
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-29 16:08 +0000
                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-29 18:45 +0200
                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:08 +0000
                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-29 18:02 +0100
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-29 19:37 +0000
                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-29 17:11 -0700
                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-29 22:31 -0400
                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-30 18:54 +0000
                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-30 13:22 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-30 22:49 +0100
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-01 08:35 -0500
                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-01 12:33 -0400
                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-01 18:19 +0000
                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:29 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-03 15:12 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 11:27 -0400
                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-01 12:33 -0400
                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 16:40 -0400
                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-01 21:46 -0500
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 23:21 -0400
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 04:08 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 13:21 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-05 09:55 -0400
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-02 07:20 -0700
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-07-02 07:36 -0500
                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-02 12:59 +0000
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-02 13:30 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-03 13:33 +0000
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2016-07-03 17:55 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-04 17:07 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-04 15:33 -0400
                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:32 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-05 18:48 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-05 19:39 -0400
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-06 08:15 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-06 12:54 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-04 21:19 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-04 16:48 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-04 21:25 +0200
                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-05 09:26 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 12:08 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-05 06:36 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-05 12:40 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-05 08:47 -0400
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-05 14:53 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 09:05 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 17:12 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-05 18:33 +0100
                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 08:54 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 11:50 +0200
                                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-06 10:59 +0100
                                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 07:54 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 16:57 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-06 10:20 -0700
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-05 12:37 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-07-05 13:51 -0700
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:12 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-05 16:35 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-05 11:21 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:33 +0100
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-05 16:38 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-05 17:39 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-05 17:26 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 20:46 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 09:00 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-05 13:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:29 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-04 12:42 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2016-07-04 22:25 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-07-05 01:07 -0400
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2016-07-05 12:54 +0100
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-05 08:47 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-05 16:40 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-05 18:24 +0100
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 08:50 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:16 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 17:16 +0000
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 23:21 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 08:52 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 11:44 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 07:54 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 16:51 +0000
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-07-06 00:18 -0400
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ibmekon <Ibmekon> - 2016-07-06 08:46 +0100
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 11:42 +0200
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Elliott Roper <nospam@yrl.co.uk> - 2016-07-06 12:51 +0100
                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-05 13:32 +0000
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-05 12:49 -0500
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-06 13:11 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 19:17 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-06 15:12 -0500
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-07 01:59 +0200
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-07 12:52 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 03:51 -0400
                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-08 12:18 +0000
                                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-08 09:33 -0400
                                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-08 15:16 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-08 10:56 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-07-08 14:20 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 19:57 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-09 13:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-10 12:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-10 17:32 -0500
                                                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 19:30 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 18:43 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-07-12 18:56 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-09 13:04 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-09 13:00 -0700
                                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-09 18:33 -0700
                                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 22:08 -0400
                                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-09 12:38 -0500
                                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Bernd Felsche <berfel@innovative.iinet.net.au> - 2016-07-11 14:09 +0800
                                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-08 16:25 +0000
                                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-09 17:17 +0000
                                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-09 12:41 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-09 18:49 +0100
                                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-09 21:38 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-07-10 09:39 -0400
                                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-10 09:55 -0400
                                                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-10 07:04 -0700
                                                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-10 17:05 -0500
                                                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-07-11 04:02 +0000
                                                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-11 07:55 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-09 12:39 -0500
                                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 13:43 -0400
                                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-09 20:02 +0100
                                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-11 21:19 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-12 07:17 +0100
                                                                                                                                    Insulation - was Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-12 09:42 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Insulation - was Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-12 16:01 +0100
                                                                                                                                      Re: Insulation - was Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-12 09:41 -0700
                                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-07-09 20:42 -0500
                                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-07-10 09:38 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-11 16:39 +0100
                                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-11 16:52 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-11 12:50 +0000
                                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-08 19:51 -0400
                                                                                                                        Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Jack Myers" <jmyers@n6wuz.net> - 2016-07-08 22:05 -0700
                                                                                                                          Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 07:00 -0400
                                                                                                                            Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                              Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 11:12 -0400
                                                                                                                                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-09 12:35 -0500
                                                                                                                                  Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-09 18:08 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 22:09 -0400
                                                                                                                                      Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-07-09 21:05 -0700
                                                                                                                                    Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-10 12:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                      Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust pechter@pechter.net (William Pechter) - 2016-07-12 18:39 +0000
                                                                                                                                        Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-13 12:48 +0000
                                                                                                                                Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-10 12:06 +0000
                                                                                                                                  Re: Phoenix area TV reception (was: Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-10 07:01 -0700
                                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-09 14:18 +0000
                                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-09 10:51 -0400
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-02 16:50 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 16:08 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-02 22:27 +0100
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:22 -0400
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 16:18 -0500
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-03 13:33 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 13:32 +0000
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-05 16:20 +0200
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-05 11:39 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 12:24 -0500
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-05 12:51 -0500
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 13:28 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-05 14:57 +0100
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-05 11:36 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-05 17:12 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-05 17:03 +0000
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 08:47 +0000
                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-07-06 11:04 +0100
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 19:13 +0200
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-06 20:47 +0000
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-06 17:18 -0400
                                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-07 07:57 +0000
                                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-07-10 11:33 +0200
                                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-10 17:23 -0500
                                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-07 02:15 +0200
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-05 11:30 -0400
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-05 18:42 +0100
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 19:42 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-06 02:21 +0100
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-05 21:29 -0500
                                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-07-06 11:31 +0200
                                                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-06 07:50 -0700
                                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-06 10:24 -0700
                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 12:27 -0400
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-02 17:05 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-07-02 19:34 +0100
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-07-02 20:28 +0100
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-07-02 22:20 +0000
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 13:28 -0400
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-02 16:08 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-02 19:16 -0400
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-05 11:37 -0700
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-05 15:34 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-07-05 13:36 +0000
                                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-05 09:55 -0400
                                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-05 20:43 -0400
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-02 19:35 -0400
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-07-03 07:11 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-03 11:39 -0400
                                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-07-03 18:03 -0500
                                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-03 08:38 +0000
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 06:17 -0400
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-07-03 09:46 -0500
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-03 08:13 -0700
                                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-03 11:35 -0400
                                                                                                Trump - was: Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-04 21:45 +0100
                                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-07-03 15:20 -0700
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:02 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-30 20:23 -0400
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:24 -0700
                                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-01 20:50 +0000
                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-30 13:14 -0700
                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-30 07:04 +0100
                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:16 +0000
                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-30 22:45 +0100
                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 06:46 -0400
                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Rob Morley <nospam@ntlworld.com> - 2016-06-30 15:34 +0100
                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-30 13:16 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-30 17:40 -0500
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 20:16 -0400
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 11:30 -0400
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:05 -0700
                                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-30 20:16 -0400
                                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-07-01 13:22 -0700
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:13 +0000
                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-29 16:07 +0100
                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-29 10:06 +0000
                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 12:29 +0100
                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 12:26 +0100
                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-29 07:27 -0400
                                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 12:30 +0100
                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-29 12:52 +0000
                                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-29 14:05 +0100
                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 15:07 +0100
                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-29 16:08 +0100
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 17:00 +0100
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-29 16:51 +0000
                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-29 18:41 +0100
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-29 19:37 +0000
                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-30 12:53 +0000
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:18 +0000
                                                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-06-30 14:05 -0500
                                                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-07-01 07:47 +0000
                                                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-07-02 06:54 +0100
                                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-29 15:37 +0000
                                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-29 16:51 +0000
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-29 17:13 +0000
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-29 12:13 -0700
                                                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-07-01 08:38 -0500
                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-25 11:28 +0000
                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 12:43 +0100
                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-06-25 11:59 +0000
                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 16:10 +0100
                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 14:12 +0200
                                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 08:52 -0400
                                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 16:11 +0100
                                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-25 12:36 -0400
                                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 14:06 +0200
                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-25 01:17 +0000
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-24 21:09 -0400
                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-25 07:31 -0400
                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust maus <mausg@mail.com> - 2016-06-25 12:11 +0000
                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-25 17:39 -0400
                                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-26 04:05 +0100
                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-24 09:57 -0700
                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 22:50 -0400
                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-25 11:59 +0200
                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-23 10:01 -0400
                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:09 -0500
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-23 09:48 +0200
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-23 10:01 -0400
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 10:58 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 08:12 -0700
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:41 -0700
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-22 12:47 +0000
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:43 -0500
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 11:30 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:35 -0700
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 18:08 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-21 19:56 -0700
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:04 -0700
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 21:39 -0500
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 08:58 +0000
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 17:34 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 13:49 -0700
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-22 21:57 -0400
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 04:29 -0400
                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-23 11:26 -0400
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-22 00:13 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:08 -0700
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 08:52 +0000
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:11 -0700
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-23 00:46 +0000
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-22 12:47 +0000
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:47 -0500
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-06-22 19:20 -0500
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 13:08 +0000
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:13 -0500
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:37 -0700
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 13:08 +0000
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-22 09:19 -0500
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:26 -0700
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-22 16:23 +0100
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-22 22:02 +0200
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:35 -0700
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-23 00:46 +0000
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-21 01:06 -0500
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 04:12 -0400
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-06-21 11:32 +0200
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 11:00 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-21 17:40 +0100
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 16:18 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 16:29 -0400
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 20:13 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 21:14 -0500
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-21 20:49 +0000
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-21 12:49 -0400
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 16:27 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:37 -0700
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 06:34 -0700
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 20:12 +0000
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-21 10:15 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 06:44 -0700
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-21 15:41 +0100
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 08:07 -0700
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 11:30 -0400
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-21 17:35 +0100
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-06-21 12:46 -0400
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 16:27 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Alfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca> - 2016-06-22 22:35 +0000
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 21:11 -0500
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 09:04 +0000
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:39 -0500
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:07 -0500
                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-22 15:57 -0400
                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 21:34 -0500
                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:14 -0500
                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-07-01 20:06 -0700
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 11:30 -0400
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:25 -0700
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 19:46 -0400
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 18:47 -0500
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 09:02 +0000
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 09:37 -0500
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-22 16:35 +0100
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 14:05 -0500
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-23 00:46 +0000
                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 21:47 -0500
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-22 21:21 +0100
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-22 20:55 +0000
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:30 -0700
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-23 06:01 +0100
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:25 -0700
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:15 -0700
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-23 13:07 +0000
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-23 14:15 +0000
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 10:29 -0500
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-23 11:33 -0400
                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-23 15:57 +0000
                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-23 13:50 -0400
                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-23 15:55 -0400
                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-23 20:33 +0000
                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-24 06:46 -0400
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-24 12:03 +0100
                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-24 11:54 -0400
                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-06-24 16:08 +0000
                                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 14:39 -0500
                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-24 17:48 +0100
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-06-24 07:18 -0400
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-24 12:21 +0100
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-24 10:10 -0400
                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 09:32 -0500
                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-24 11:03 -0700
                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 22:51 -0400
                                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-25 13:10 +0000
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-24 16:30 +0000
                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-24 09:51 -0700
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-24 22:47 -0400
                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-24 22:02 -0500
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-25 10:18 +0100
                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-23 18:50 -0400
                                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-24 12:39 +0000
                                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-24 15:41 +0100
                                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-24 19:49 -0700
                                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-25 08:58 +0100
                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-24 11:40 +0000
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 17:37 -0400
              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-21 06:54 -0400
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-06-21 10:57 +0000
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-21 06:49 -0700
                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:33 -0700
                    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 18:05 -0400
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-21 20:07 -0400
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-06-21 22:37 -0400
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-22 04:31 -0400
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 14:02 -0700
                      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-22 13:47 -0700
                        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-23 00:46 +0000
                          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2016-06-23 06:42 +0100
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-06-23 05:59 +0000
                              Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 04:31 -0400
                                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-06-23 09:12 -0500
                                  Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-06-23 11:11 -0500
                            Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-06-23 07:39 +0100
                Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-21 14:13 -0700
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-16 13:12 -0700
          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-16 21:39 -0700
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-16 14:37 -0700
          Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-16 19:35 -0700
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-16 13:02 -0700
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-06-16 14:51 -0700
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-16 13:06 -0700
    Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-06-17 03:38 +0000
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-06-17 08:07 -0400
      Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-06-17 14:34 -0700
        Re: "Computer & Automation" later issues--anti-establishment thrust jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-06-18 13:00 +0000

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#165707

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-06-21 16:27 -0400
Message-ID<1472602113.488233455.585441.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#165696
Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
> 
>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>> - while the Nazi
>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>> 
>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>> 
> Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
> reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
> camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
> retroactively made the connection.

I'm not sure I agree, since reservations were much bigger and not walled or
guarded.

> 
>   Michael
> 
> 



-- 
Pete

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#165806

FromAlfred Falk <falk@arc.ab.ca>
Date2016-06-22 22:35 +0000
Message-ID<XnsA62FA8CF1F6DCfalkarcabca@213.239.209.88>
In reply to#165707
Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:1472602113.488233455.585441.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-septem
ber.org: 

> Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>> 
>>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com... 
>>>> - while the Nazi
>>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>> 
>>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>> 
>> Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>> reservations in North America for indians were a model for
>> concentration camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or
>> people today have retroactively made the connection. 
> 
> I'm not sure I agree, since reservations were much bigger and not
> walled or guarded.
>>   Michael

I don't know about eastern Canada or the U.S., but until mid-twentieth 
century treaty Indians in Alberta and British Columbia were not allowed to 
leave reserves without special permission which also specified exactly where 
they were could go.  Many indigenous customs were also forbiddon _on_ 
reserves.  The colonial mess extended far beyond residential schools. 

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#165736

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-21 21:11 -0500
Message-ID<gpsjmblronjqaa5dopofgkbh5h0haomptp@4ax.com>
In reply to#165696
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:46:39 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
wrote:

>On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>
>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>> - while the Nazi
>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>
>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>
>Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
>camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
>retroactively made the connection.
>
>   Michael

The Native Americans were promised beef so they didn't have to hunt,
many tribes' weapons were taken away, but due to corruption the beef
was either scraggly or didn't arrive. People died of malnutrition or
starved. Some, not all, of the times they left reservations was for
nothing more than to get food they were otherwise denied.

And some who had made treaties, and were loyal to America, were
attacked and murdered because some white groups apparently just felt
like doing it.

-- 
JimP.

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#165757

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-06-22 09:04 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnmkhk1.1np.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#165736
On 2016-06-22, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:46:39 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>
>>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>>> - while the Nazi
>>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>>
>>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>>
>>Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>>reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
>>camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
>>retroactively made the connection.
>>
>>   Michael
>
> The Native Americans were promised beef so they didn't have to hunt,
> many tribes' weapons were taken away, but due to corruption the beef
> was either scraggly or didn't arrive. People died of malnutrition or
> starved. Some, not all, of the times they left reservations was for
> nothing more than to get food they were otherwise denied.
>
> And some who had made treaties, and were loyal to America, were
> attacked and murdered because some white groups apparently just felt
> like doing it.
>

One of my favourite TV shows is "Longmire", part of which, I believe is
filmed on the Crow and Cheyanne reservations. Life is still crap there.


-- 
greymaus.ireland.ie
 .
  .
...

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#165772

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-22 09:39 -0500
Message-ID<jm8lmbdql7tmiufoq3t22t7n9if8gc3p42@4ax.com>
In reply to#165757
On 22 Jun 2016 09:04:17 GMT, mausg@mail.com wrote:

>On 2016-06-22, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:46:39 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>>>> - while the Nazi
>>>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>>>
>>>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>>>
>>>Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>>>reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
>>>camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
>>>retroactively made the connection.
>>>
>>>   Michael
>>
>> The Native Americans were promised beef so they didn't have to hunt,
>> many tribes' weapons were taken away, but due to corruption the beef
>> was either scraggly or didn't arrive. People died of malnutrition or
>> starved. Some, not all, of the times they left reservations was for
>> nothing more than to get food they were otherwise denied.
>>
>> And some who had made treaties, and were loyal to America, were
>> attacked and murdered because some white groups apparently just felt
>> like doing it.
>>
>
>One of my favourite TV shows is "Longmire", part of which, I believe is
>filmed on the Crow and Cheyanne reservations. Life is still crap there.

The poorest county in the US is the Rosebud Reservation. These are the
decendants of the people who killed Custer. But then, I don't feel
anyone is responsible for something that happened before they were
born.

-- 
JimP.

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#165779

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-06-22 12:17 -0400
Message-ID<1349229349.488304713.385882.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#165772
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 22 Jun 2016 09:04:17 GMT, mausg@mail.com wrote:
> 
>> On 2016-06-22, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:46:39 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>> - while the Nazi
>>>>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>>>> 
>>>>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>>>> 
>>>> Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>>>> reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
>>>> camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
>>>> retroactively made the connection.
>>>> 
>>>> Michael
>>> 
>>> The Native Americans were promised beef so they didn't have to hunt,
>>> many tribes' weapons were taken away, but due to corruption the beef
>>> was either scraggly or didn't arrive. People died of malnutrition or
>>> starved. Some, not all, of the times they left reservations was for
>>> nothing more than to get food they were otherwise denied.
>>> 
>>> And some who had made treaties, and were loyal to America, were
>>> attacked and murdered because some white groups apparently just felt
>>> like doing it.
>>> 
>> 
>> One of my favourite TV shows is "Longmire", part of which, I believe is
>> filmed on the Crow and Cheyanne reservations. Life is still crap there.
> 
> The poorest county in the US is the Rosebud Reservation. These are the
> decendants of the people who killed Custer. But then, I don't feel
> anyone is responsible for something that happened before they were
> born.
> 

What is the reason for this, and what is the solution?

-- 
Pete

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#165784

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-22 14:07 -0500
Message-ID<pcolmblg79npnfsh0rd86r42gqq16af4b9@4ax.com>
In reply to#165779
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:17:27 -0400, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

>JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 22 Jun 2016 09:04:17 GMT, mausg@mail.com wrote:
>> 
>>> On 2016-06-22, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:46:39 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>> - while the Nazi
>>>>>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>>>>> reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
>>>>> camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
>>>>> retroactively made the connection.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Michael
>>>> 
>>>> The Native Americans were promised beef so they didn't have to hunt,
>>>> many tribes' weapons were taken away, but due to corruption the beef
>>>> was either scraggly or didn't arrive. People died of malnutrition or
>>>> starved. Some, not all, of the times they left reservations was for
>>>> nothing more than to get food they were otherwise denied.
>>>> 
>>>> And some who had made treaties, and were loyal to America, were
>>>> attacked and murdered because some white groups apparently just felt
>>>> like doing it.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> One of my favourite TV shows is "Longmire", part of which, I believe is
>>> filmed on the Crow and Cheyanne reservations. Life is still crap there.
>> 
>> The poorest county in the US is the Rosebud Reservation. These are the
>> decendants of the people who killed Custer. But then, I don't feel
>> anyone is responsible for something that happened before they were
>> born.
>> 
>
>What is the reason for this, and what is the solution?

Well, its holding people who weren't alive when Custer died for
killing Custer. Apparently by the local whites and the US government
officials who 'help' them run the reservation. Getting them to stop
being bigots may or may not help.

-- 
JimP.

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#165786

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-06-22 15:57 -0400
Message-ID<749209190.488317910.422821.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#165784
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:17:27 -0400, Peter Flass
> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
>> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On 22 Jun 2016 09:04:17 GMT, mausg@mail.com wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 2016-06-22, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:46:39 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>> - while the Nazi
>>>>>>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>>>>>> reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
>>>>>> camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
>>>>>> retroactively made the connection.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Native Americans were promised beef so they didn't have to hunt,
>>>>> many tribes' weapons were taken away, but due to corruption the beef
>>>>> was either scraggly or didn't arrive. People died of malnutrition or
>>>>> starved. Some, not all, of the times they left reservations was for
>>>>> nothing more than to get food they were otherwise denied.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And some who had made treaties, and were loyal to America, were
>>>>> attacked and murdered because some white groups apparently just felt
>>>>> like doing it.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> One of my favourite TV shows is "Longmire", part of which, I believe is
>>>> filmed on the Crow and Cheyanne reservations. Life is still crap there.
>>> 
>>> The poorest county in the US is the Rosebud Reservation. These are the
>>> decendants of the people who killed Custer. But then, I don't feel
>>> anyone is responsible for something that happened before they were
>>> born.
>>> 
>> 
>> What is the reason for this, and what is the solution?
> 
> Well, its holding people who weren't alive when Custer died for
> killing Custer. Apparently by the local whites and the US government
> officials who 'help' them run the reservation. Getting them to stop
> being bigots may or may not help.
> 

Regardless of history, it's obviously the poorest county because of a
shortage of good jobs  and/or a shortage of natural resources.  You can't
fix the latter, but the first one can be fixed.  Many reservations make
money by catering to the vices of other americans - cigarettes, gambling,
etc.  Possibly tourism would be a possibility.

I don't think the Custer thing resonates today.   The man was an idiot and
deserved what he got, it's the rest of the men who deserve some sympathy. 
In any case, we celebrate our home-grown opponents, look at the
unreconstructed Confederates.

-- 
Pete

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#165817

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-22 21:34 -0500
Message-ID<37immbt376i88be1vluf79arn8r9cdkrur@4ax.com>
In reply to#165786
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:57:22 -0400, Peter Flass
<peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

>JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:17:27 -0400, Peter Flass
>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> On 22 Jun 2016 09:04:17 GMT, mausg@mail.com wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 2016-06-22, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:46:39 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>> - while the Nazi
>>>>>>>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>>>>>>> reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
>>>>>>> camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
>>>>>>> retroactively made the connection.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Native Americans were promised beef so they didn't have to hunt,
>>>>>> many tribes' weapons were taken away, but due to corruption the beef
>>>>>> was either scraggly or didn't arrive. People died of malnutrition or
>>>>>> starved. Some, not all, of the times they left reservations was for
>>>>>> nothing more than to get food they were otherwise denied.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And some who had made treaties, and were loyal to America, were
>>>>>> attacked and murdered because some white groups apparently just felt
>>>>>> like doing it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> One of my favourite TV shows is "Longmire", part of which, I believe is
>>>>> filmed on the Crow and Cheyanne reservations. Life is still crap there.
>>>> 
>>>> The poorest county in the US is the Rosebud Reservation. These are the
>>>> decendants of the people who killed Custer. But then, I don't feel
>>>> anyone is responsible for something that happened before they were
>>>> born.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> What is the reason for this, and what is the solution?
>> 
>> Well, its holding people who weren't alive when Custer died for
>> killing Custer. Apparently by the local whites and the US government
>> officials who 'help' them run the reservation. Getting them to stop
>> being bigots may or may not help.
>> 
>
>Regardless of history, it's obviously the poorest county because of a
>shortage of good jobs  and/or a shortage of natural resources.  You can't
>fix the latter, but the first one can be fixed.  Many reservations make
>money by catering to the vices of other americans - cigarettes, gambling,
>etc.  Possibly tourism would be a possibility.
>
>I don't think the Custer thing resonates today.   The man was an idiot and
>deserved what he got, it's the rest of the men who deserve some sympathy. 
>In any case, we celebrate our home-grown opponents, look at the
>unreconstructed Confederates.

I'm not so sure that people don't revere Custer based on several
documentaries I've watched. Myself, I think he did a good job in
1860-1865. However, his attacks out west were against villages with
few men there. When he got into a battle with warriors, he lost. There
were mitigating circumstances, not just numbers.

He and his troop had rollng block rifles, copper cartridges. They
jammed easily after several minutes of firing due to heating of the
cartridges and it took a knife to get them out. A number of Cavalry
rifles were found with cartridges broken off or japped in the guns.
Many of the Native Americans had Henry repeaters. Although manym ovies
depict them as having bows and arrows and some spears. The US Cavalry
at the time were not trained in handling skirmishers like Native
Americans. And while he had 2 gatling guns available, he left them at
the fort claiming they would slow him down. And since he didn't see
well by the time of his last battle, he simply didn't see, and ignored
warnings about, the hundreds of tipis there. His ego certainly got in
the way of survival.

-- 
JimP.

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#165847

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-23 09:14 -0500
Message-ID<elrnmb9hkvf04574d47tpah9uvmhn8h6d2@4ax.com>
In reply to#165817
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 21:34:55 -0500, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 15:57:22 -0400, Peter Flass
><peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 12:17:27 -0400, Peter Flass
>>> <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 22 Jun 2016 09:04:17 GMT, mausg@mail.com wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2016-06-22, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 12:46:39 -0400, Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> "Quadibloc" <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in message
>>>>>>>>> news:a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com...
>>>>>>>>>> - while the Nazi
>>>>>>>>>> concentration camps were unique in history
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The concentration camp was a British invention of the Boer War.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Is that true?  I see some truth there, but I've also seen it said that
>>>>>>>> reservations in North America for indians were a model for concentration 
>>>>>>>> camps.  But I'm not sure if that actually happened, or people today have 
>>>>>>>> retroactively made the connection.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Michael
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The Native Americans were promised beef so they didn't have to hunt,
>>>>>>> many tribes' weapons were taken away, but due to corruption the beef
>>>>>>> was either scraggly or didn't arrive. People died of malnutrition or
>>>>>>> starved. Some, not all, of the times they left reservations was for
>>>>>>> nothing more than to get food they were otherwise denied.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> And some who had made treaties, and were loyal to America, were
>>>>>>> attacked and murdered because some white groups apparently just felt
>>>>>>> like doing it.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> One of my favourite TV shows is "Longmire", part of which, I believe is
>>>>>> filmed on the Crow and Cheyanne reservations. Life is still crap there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The poorest county in the US is the Rosebud Reservation. These are the
>>>>> decendants of the people who killed Custer. But then, I don't feel
>>>>> anyone is responsible for something that happened before they were
>>>>> born.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> What is the reason for this, and what is the solution?
>>> 
>>> Well, its holding people who weren't alive when Custer died for
>>> killing Custer. Apparently by the local whites and the US government
>>> officials who 'help' them run the reservation. Getting them to stop
>>> being bigots may or may not help.
>>> 
>>
>>Regardless of history, it's obviously the poorest county because of a
>>shortage of good jobs  and/or a shortage of natural resources.  You can't
>>fix the latter, but the first one can be fixed.  Many reservations make
>>money by catering to the vices of other americans - cigarettes, gambling,
>>etc.  Possibly tourism would be a possibility.
>>
>>I don't think the Custer thing resonates today.   The man was an idiot and
>>deserved what he got, it's the rest of the men who deserve some sympathy. 
>>In any case, we celebrate our home-grown opponents, look at the
>>unreconstructed Confederates.
>
>I'm not so sure that people don't revere Custer based on several
>documentaries I've watched. Myself, I think he did a good job in
>1860-1865. However, his attacks out west were against villages with
>few men there. When he got into a battle with warriors, he lost. There
>were mitigating circumstances, not just numbers.
>
>He and his troop had rollng block rifles, copper cartridges. They
>jammed easily after several minutes of firing due to heating of the
>cartridges and it took a knife to get them out. A number of Cavalry
>rifles were found with cartridges broken off or japped in the guns.

Jammed in the guns.

-- 
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#166272

FromAnne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date2016-07-01 20:06 -0700
Message-ID<874m88eo2d.fsf@garlic.com>
In reply to#165817
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> writes:
> I'm not so sure that people don't revere Custer based on several
> documentaries I've watched. Myself, I think he did a good job in
> 1860-1865. However, his attacks out west were against villages with
> few men there. When he got into a battle with warriors, he lost. There
> were mitigating circumstances, not just numbers.


The Comanche Empire
http://www.amazon.com/Comanche-Empire-Lamar-Western-History-ebook/dp/B001HZZ05C/

Sheriden adopted Sherman's scortched earth policies (from civil war) for
the Indian Wars ... raid their compounds, killing non-combatants and
destroying sources of food, loc4695-99:

Short of troops and wary of open battles, the army set out to deprive
the Comanches of shelter and sustenance by destroying their winter
camps, food supplies, and horse herds. By the early 1870s this kind of
total warfare against entire populations was an established practice in
the U.S. Army. Sherman had pioneered it against the Confederacy in his
"March to the Sea," and Sheridan had introduced a stripped-down version
of it to the plains in his 1868-69 winter campaign against the
Cheyennes.

... snip ...

While most accounts have Sherman destorying food sources and other
infrastructure ... he tried to keep his forces from massacring woman and
children .... while Sheriden's indian campaign was more like genocide.

Generals South, Generals North: The Commanders of the Civil War
Reconsidered
http://www.amazon.com/Generals-South-North-Commanders-Reconsidered-ebook/dp/B012A1WML6/

loc6085-88:

Despite the mixed results of his approach to cavalry and the moral
ambiguity (in the Indian Wars verging on genocide) of his policy of
waging war on civilians, it cannot be denied that Sheridan was a superb
leader of troops, a fine tactician, and an aggressive fighter, who was
especially effective in forcing Lee to surrender his Army of Northern
Virginia in the closing weeks of the Civil War.

... snip ...

past ref:
http://manana.garlic.com/~lynn/2016c.html#44 Qbasic

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#165689

FromPeter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date2016-06-21 11:30 -0400
Message-ID<2013347164.488215305.066393.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#165679
Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 4:15:32 AM UTC-6, ma...@mail.com wrote:
> 
>> I would agree with most of the above, except I would disagree with
>> the thing about the communists being (necessarily) `bad' people.
> 
> Not understood. One might as well say that Nazis aren't necessarily bad people.

True of many in both groups.  In Nazi Germany and Communist Russia it was
necessary to be a member of the ruling party in good standing to get
various perks such as a good job, admission to college, good housing, etc. 
Many apolitical people joined for that reason, and could have cared less
about ideology.  Probably many of the elite didn't care that much either,
but simply used the party to advance their own personal fortunes. Then
there were the really bad guys.

> 
> After the menace of Nazism was ended, Communism denied freedom for decades to 
> the people of Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia, 
> Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Tibet, among other countries.
> 
> Some of the cruelty and brutality of Communism was effectively recounted in 
> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's work _The Gulag Archipelago_ - while the Nazi 
> concentration camps were unique in history, Soviet slave labor camps came close.
> 
> One can also recommend _Deliver Us from Evil_ by Dr. Tom Dooley for information 
> about Viet Cong atrocities during the Vietnam War.
> 
> And the People's Republic of China is also known for suppressing dissent, and 
> it continues to protect the reputation of the Communist Party from 
> accountability for the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, and the 
> Tienanmen Square Massacre, even if it has distanced itself from the Cultural 
> Revolution.
> 
> It falsely claims to allow freedom of religion, when in fact Catholics in China 
> are only allowed to worship in a state-run church, and religious movements 
> insisting on independence are ruthlessly suppressed, such as Falun Gong.
> 
> Because of resumed Russian aggression, first against Georgia and more recently 
> the Ukraine, and China's regime, American citizens are forced to pay higher 
> taxes than would otherwise be needed. If there was world peace, with all 
> countries fully democratic and otherwise in harmony, defense budgets would be 
> minimal.
> 
> John Savard
> 



-- 
Pete

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#165720

Fromhancock4@bbs.cpcn.com
Date2016-06-21 14:25 -0700
Message-ID<43bdc816-0a28-4076-a4be-d55613b40a07@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#165679
On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 9:44:25 AM UTC-4, Quadibloc wrote:
> Some of the cruelty and brutality of Communism was effectively recounted in 
> Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's work _The Gulag Archipelago_ - while the Nazi 
> concentration camps were unique in history, Soviet slave labor camps came close.
> 
> One can also recommend _Deliver Us from Evil_ by Dr. Tom Dooley for information 
> about Viet Cong atrocities during the Vietnam War.

Another excellent resource is Victor Kravchenko's "I Chose Freedom".
When it was published it was criticized as right-wing propaganda,
but it was subsequently proven as all fact.

Lenin and his Bolsheviks didn't take over in Russia by winning
over the hearts and minds of the people.  They did so by
terrorizing them.  Stalin continued that effort, and he was
as ruthless and cruel as Hitler.  As the victor in WW II, Stalin's
crimes remained 'buried' until exposed much later, with much less
publicity.

In terms of propaganda, Stalin was superior.  Most people saw
Hitler for what he was.  However, Stalin was revered by many
Americans (e.g. "Mission to Moscow").

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#165730

From"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-21 19:46 -0400
Message-ID<MPG.31d39beaeee6ba0698a2a3@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#165679
In article <a67bb6fd-5fdb-4aee-9bfd-1c1f7776cb31@googlegroups.com>, 
jsavard@ecn.ab.ca says...
> 
> On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 4:15:32 AM UTC-6, ma...@mail.com wrote:
> 
> > I would agree with most of the above, except I would disagree with
> > the thing about the communists being (necessarily) `bad' people.
> 
> Not understood. One might as well say that Nazis aren't necessarily bad people.

Remember, Oskar Schindler was a Nazi.  Merely belonging to a political 
party, no matter how reprehensible it might be, does not make one evil.

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#165731

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-21 18:47 -0500
Message-ID<gdkjmb11kfbr2qi5od2bon8m6j1ooohb61@4ax.com>
In reply to#165679
On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:44:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
<jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:

>On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 4:15:32 AM UTC-6, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>
>> I would agree with most of the above, except I would disagree with
>> the thing about the communists being (necessarily) `bad' people.
>
>Not understood. One might as well say that Nazis aren't necessarily bad people.
>
>After the menace of Nazism was ended, Communism denied freedom for decades to 
>the people of Poland, Hungary, Czechoslovakia, Bulgaria, Romania, Yugoslavia, 
>Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, and Tibet, among other countries.
>
>Some of the cruelty and brutality of Communism was effectively recounted in 
>Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's work _The Gulag Archipelago_ - while the Nazi 
>concentration camps were unique in history, Soviet slave labor camps came close.
>
>One can also recommend _Deliver Us from Evil_ by Dr. Tom Dooley for information 
>about Viet Cong atrocities during the Vietnam War.
>
>And the People's Republic of China is also known for suppressing dissent, and 
>it continues to protect the reputation of the Communist Party from 
>accountability for the Great Leap Forward, the Cultural Revolution, and the 
>Tienanmen Square Massacre, even if it has distanced itself from the Cultural 
>Revolution.
>
>It falsely claims to allow freedom of religion, when in fact Catholics in China 
>are only allowed to worship in a state-run church, and religious movements 
>insisting on independence are ruthlessly suppressed, such as Falun Gong.
>
>Because of resumed Russian aggression, first against Georgia and more recently 
>the Ukraine, and China's regime, American citizens are forced to pay higher 
>taxes than would otherwise be needed. If there was world peace, with all 
>countries fully democratic and otherwise in harmony, defense budgets would be 
>minimal.
>
>John Savard

As I've said in here before, the main differences between communism
and nazism is 1) the color of their uniforms, 2) the reasons they use
to murder millions of people. Otherwise nutters.

-- 
JimP.

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#165756

Frommausg@mail.com
Date2016-06-22 09:02 +0000
Message-ID<slrnnmkhft.1np.mausg@Smaus.org>
In reply to#165731
On 2016-06-21, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:44:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>
>>On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 4:15:32 AM UTC-6, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>>
>>countries fully democratic and otherwise in harmony, defense budgets would be 
>>minimal.
>>
>>John Savard
>
> As I've said in here before, the main differences between communism
> and nazism is 1) the color of their uniforms, 2) the reasons they use
> to murder millions of people. Otherwise nutters.
>

The Nazis were, and are (read what AfD is about), racists. They would never
have won  WWII because of that.


-- 
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#165771

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-22 09:37 -0500
Message-ID<mj8lmb9dpl2memdv0m75tso8r44edvcl09@4ax.com>
In reply to#165756
On 22 Jun 2016 09:02:04 GMT, mausg@mail.com wrote:

>On 2016-06-21, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 21 Jun 2016 06:44:24 -0700 (PDT), Quadibloc
>><jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote:
>>
>>>On Tuesday, June 21, 2016 at 4:15:32 AM UTC-6, ma...@mail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>countries fully democratic and otherwise in harmony, defense budgets would be 
>>>minimal.
>>>
>>>John Savard
>>
>> As I've said in here before, the main differences between communism
>> and nazism is 1) the color of their uniforms, 2) the reasons they use
>> to murder millions of people. Otherwise nutters.
>>
>
>The Nazis were, and are (read what AfD is about), racists. They would never
>have won  WWII because of that.

The communists are racists to. I know what both have done while
pretending to free people. The Axis was racist. And frankly, so were
some of the Allies in WW2, they just hid it better. Mostly.

-- 
JimP.

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#165776

FromAhem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net>
Date2016-06-22 16:35 +0100
Message-ID<20160622163510.481c951ecd242e30adf0517f@eircom.net>
In reply to#165771
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:37:58 -0500
JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:

> The communists are racists to. I know what both have done while
> pretending to free people. The Axis was racist. And frankly, so were
> some of the Allies in WW2, they just hid it better. Mostly.

	Being racist was respectable not too long before WWII, it's only
relatively recently it's become deplorable. My father (who served in WWII)
was racist and proud of it - he wanted to "send them all home" and thought
that "they were all savages until we British came and taught them
civilisation" and I even heard him say "they're not long down from the
trees". He really believed it all, and he wasn't unusual for his time
AFAICT. Consider the British politician Enoch Powell who wanted to prevent
immigration from the commonwealth countries among other things, wiki seems
to think his views were very common at the time.

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#165783

FromJimP <solosam90@gmail.com>
Date2016-06-22 14:05 -0500
Message-ID<caolmbl6ovpt1j34qpt96o89vokocrriqj@4ax.com>
In reply to#165776
On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:35:10 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
<steveo@eircom.net> wrote:

>On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:37:58 -0500
>JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The communists are racists to. I know what both have done while
>> pretending to free people. The Axis was racist. And frankly, so were
>> some of the Allies in WW2, they just hid it better. Mostly.
>
>	Being racist was respectable not too long before WWII, it's only
>relatively recently it's become deplorable. My father (who served in WWII)
>was racist and proud of it - he wanted to "send them all home" and thought
>that "they were all savages until we British came and taught them
>civilisation" and I even heard him say "they're not long down from the
>trees". He really believed it all, and he wasn't unusual for his time
>AFAICT. Consider the British politician Enoch Powell who wanted to prevent
>immigration from the commonwealth countries among other things, wiki seems
>to think his views were very common at the time.

Very much so. I've heard other people say 'not long down from the
trees' when talking about people of other nations. Of course, it
doesn't make any sense.

-- 
JimP.

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#165809

FromCharlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Date2016-06-23 00:46 +0000
Message-ID<nkfbhj11ngl@news3.newsguy.com>
In reply to#165783
On 2016-06-22, JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 16:35:10 +0100, Ahem A Rivet's Shot
> <steveo@eircom.net> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 22 Jun 2016 09:37:58 -0500
>> JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The communists are racists to. I know what both have done while
>>> pretending to free people. The Axis was racist. And frankly, so were
>>> some of the Allies in WW2, they just hid it better. Mostly.
>>
>> Being racist was respectable not too long before WWII, it's only
>> relatively recently it's become deplorable. My father (who served in WWII)
>> was racist and proud of it - he wanted to "send them all home" and thought
>> that "they were all savages until we British came and taught them
>> civilisation" and I even heard him say "they're not long down from the
>> trees". He really believed it all, and he wasn't unusual for his time
>> AFAICT. Consider the British politician Enoch Powell who wanted to prevent
>> immigration from the commonwealth countries among other things, wiki seems
>> to think his views were very common at the time.
>
> Very much so. I've heard other people say 'not long down from the
> trees' when talking about people of other nations. Of course, it
> doesn't make any sense.

It probably does to Donald Trump (and his supporters).

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