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SUSE Reviving Usenet

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First post	2021-09-29 09:04 -0500
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  SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-29 09:04 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-29 14:44 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-09-30 01:44 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-09-30 12:25 -0400
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 14:03 -0500
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-09-30 23:36 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 20:20 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-09-30 14:45 -1000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-01 06:30 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 14:48 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-01 13:47 -0400
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-01 17:56 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-01 22:07 -0400
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 20:49 +0100
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:03 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-02 10:49 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 15:13 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Mainlander <Mainlander@katamail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:35 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 12:49 -0400
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 13:34 -0700
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 20:04 -0400
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:50 +0000
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-03 05:52 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet chris <chris-nospam@tridac.net> - 2021-10-20 00:00 +0100
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:13 -0500
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-03 01:48 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-02 22:23 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 16:07 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 18:06 +0100
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-02 19:55 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 22:17 +0100
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-10-03 08:15 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2021-10-02 13:29 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-02 07:53 -1000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2021-10-02 18:58 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:27 -0500
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Alan Ralph <usenet@alanralph.co.uk> - 2021-10-03 15:34 +0000
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 01:05 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich Alderson <news@alderson.users.panix.com> - 2021-10-02 20:04 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-03 00:24 -0400
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-05 00:13 -0400
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2021-10-05 20:14 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-04 14:17 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-04 16:42 +0100
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-04 17:17 +0100
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 16:38 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 16:10 -0400
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-05 00:11 -0400
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 08:31 -0400
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-05 11:34 -0400
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-05 17:31 +0000
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-10-06 09:31 +0100
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Michael Trew <michael.trew@att.net> - 2021-10-08 18:53 -0400
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 17:41 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-05 20:58 -0400
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 06:38 +0100
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 01:26 -0500
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 08:12 +0100
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 03:41 -0500
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-05 23:04 +0000
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-05 06:48 -0700
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-05 14:17 +0000
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-05 23:03 -0500
                              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-06 04:58 +0000
                                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 00:59 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-04 16:00 -0400
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> - 2021-11-25 20:13 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2021-11-26 04:02 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Geeknix <usenet@apple.geeknix135.net> - 2021-11-26 07:41 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2021-11-26 21:01 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bud Frede <frede@mouse-potato.com> - 2022-02-28 16:58 -0500
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2022-02-28 18:30 -0700
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-03-01 09:09 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet songbird <songbird@anthive.com> - 2022-03-01 08:25 -0500
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-03-01 15:49 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2022-03-04 03:19 -0400
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2022-03-04 09:14 +0000
                              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-03-04 15:28 +0000
                                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-03-04 15:32 +0000
                                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2022-03-04 16:59 -0400
                                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-03-04 21:02 +0000
                                    Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2022-03-04 21:39 +0000
                                      Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-03-04 22:17 +0000
                                        Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2022-03-04 17:07 -0700
                                          Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-03-05 00:12 +0000
                                        Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet meff <email@example.com> - 2022-03-05 00:26 +0000
                                        Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2022-03-05 15:48 +0000
                                          Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> - 2022-03-05 20:56 +0000
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2022-03-04 13:35 -1000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-vck-this> - 2021-11-26 09:42 -0800
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet sidd@situ.com - 2021-10-16 06:40 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-16 09:14 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-16 13:19 -0700
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-17 17:31 -1000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-23 09:52 -1000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom (Lawrence Statton (NK1G)) - 2021-10-01 16:26 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-10-01 23:19 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2021-09-30 18:38 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-30 19:26 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-09-30 21:39 +0200
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:43 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-01 21:32 +0200
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 20:31 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 21:24 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 11:12 -0500
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 18:09 +0100
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-02 18:32 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 20:41 +0100
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:40 -0500
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-03 13:31 +0200
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-03 22:57 -0500
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-04 14:06 +0200
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-04 14:11 +0100
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-05 10:28 +0200
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 10:44 +0100
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-04 14:21 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-04 15:29 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2021-10-05 11:04 +0200
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet lawrence@cluon.com (Lawrence Statton (NK1G)) - 2021-10-04 13:42 -0500
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ulick Magee <ulickmagee@feckoff.invalid> - 2021-11-09 23:55 +0000
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2021-11-09 20:44 -0600
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 06:22 +0100
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 14:55 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-01 17:19 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-01 17:13 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Mainlander <Mainlander@katamail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:26 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-02 18:11 +0100
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet sidd@situ.com - 2021-10-16 07:01 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> - 2021-10-13 18:39 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-10-13 17:58 -0500
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> - 2021-10-14 09:25 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-10-14 15:29 +0000
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2021-10-14 14:27 -1000
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-10-15 10:07 +0100
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-16 02:53 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-10-16 15:34 -0500
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Wayne Salamon <xenon@wsalamon.net> - 2021-10-18 10:55 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 17:30 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-10-01 18:27 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jakob Bohm <jb-usenet@wisemo.com.invalid> - 2021-10-01 22:46 +0200
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-01 21:26 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2021-10-02 01:12 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-02 11:08 +0000
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Mainlander <Mainlander@katamail.com> - 2021-10-02 16:31 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-04 14:19 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-10-05 07:36 +0000
                      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 09:30 +0100
                        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-10-05 10:07 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-05 12:57 +0100
                            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Maus <Greymaus@mail.com> - 2021-10-05 13:48 +0000
                          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-06 10:08 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-29 16:25 +0100
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:17 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jason Evans <jsevans@mailfence.com> - 2021-09-29 15:56 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-09-29 17:22 +0100
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:23 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:22 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-09-30 13:27 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 12:58 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-09-30 19:12 +0100
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-09-30 13:16 -0700
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 15:59 -0500
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2021-10-01 17:38 -0700
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealmtje@yahoo.com> - 2021-09-29 17:36 +0000
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@gmail.com> - 2021-09-29 22:32 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-09-30 08:25 -0500
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-02 10:57 -0500
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2021-10-02 22:07 +0000
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-02 23:07 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 11:46 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-03 18:14 +0100
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:35 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2021-10-03 14:28 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2021-10-03 17:31 +0000
    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2021-10-06 15:55 +0300
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Richard Heathfield <rjh@cpax.org.uk> - 2021-10-06 14:35 +0100
      Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 00:37 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2021-10-07 07:04 +0100
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-07 18:30 +0000
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2021-10-07 08:47 -0400
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-07 13:07 +0000
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:16 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Rich <rich@example.invalid> - 2021-10-08 00:08 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:50 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 09:32 -0500
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:38 -0500
        Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Phil Carmody <pc+usenet@asdf.org> - 2021-10-07 17:42 +0300
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 18:26 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-07 23:44 +0000
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:23 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-08 01:27 +0000
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-07 20:56 -0500
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Branimir Maksimovic <branimir.maksimovic@icloud.com> - 2021-10-08 01:58 +0000
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-07 20:01 -0700
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-08 00:54 -0500
            Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2021-10-12 12:23 -0500
              Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 13:35 -0500
                Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-12 16:16 -0700
                  Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2021-10-13 00:17 +0000
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2021-10-12 20:00 -0700
                    Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet "Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2021-10-13 17:48 +0100
          Re: SUSE Reviving Usenet 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> - 2021-10-12 09:38 -0500

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From	Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date	2022-03-04 15:32 +0000
Message-ID	<j8epnuFhr6oU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#220225

On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:28:40 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>On 04 Mar 2022 03:19:44 -0400 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
>>wrote:
>>
>>> I remember having to use the % hack to get email from Bitnet to an IP
>>> address.  How long has it been since you've had to do anthing like
>>> that?
>>
>>	Not this century that's for sure.
>>
>>> K&R put C into less than 300 pages. The Bat Book on Sendmail is big
>>
>>	They put C into way less than that - all the facts were in the
>>short reference section at the back (about ten pages IIRC) the rest was
> 
> 40 pages (179 to 219) in the first edition.
> 
>>just verbose explanation and examples. I learned C from a photocopy of
>>the reference section of the first edition in the two weeks I had to
>>wait for the compiler to arrive - workplace training circa 1982 - when
>>it did arrive I had to rewrite a lot of the code I'd written because it
>>lacked bitfield support.
>>
>>> enough to anchor a small boat and, alas, I've been forced a couple of
>>> times to grovel through it.
>>
>>	With great power comes great complexity ?
> 
> With 'm4' comes great complexity.

With m4 comes great crock-ery. I hate it.

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#220231

From	Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
Date	2022-03-04 16:59 -0400
Message-ID	<87h78dzb5d.fsf@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
In reply to	#220226

Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:

> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:28:40 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
> 
>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>
>>> On 04 Mar 2022 03:19:44 -0400 Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> enough to anchor a small boat and, alas, I've been forced a couple of
>>>> times to grovel through it.
>>>
>>>	With great power comes great complexity ?
>> 
>> With 'm4' comes great complexity.
> 
> With m4 comes great crock-ery. I hate it.

What he said. For awhile, I managed to get what I needed, against
all advice, by directly editing sendmail.cf.  Last time not.  Combination
of cook-booking and BatBook groveling and m4.  A separate language
just to edit a config file?  Yow!

-- 
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#220232

From	Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date	2022-03-04 21:02 +0000
Message-ID	<j8fd3eFhr6oU6@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#220231

On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 16:59:58 -0400, Mike Spencer wrote:

> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:
> 
>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 15:28:40 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:
>> 
>>> Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> On 04 Mar 2022 03:19:44 -0400 Mike Spencer
>>>> <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> enough to anchor a small boat and, alas, I've been forced a couple
>>>>> of times to grovel through it.
>>>>
>>>>	With great power comes great complexity ?
>>> 
>>> With 'm4' comes great complexity.
>> 
>> With m4 comes great crock-ery. I hate it.
> 
> What he said. For awhile, I managed to get what I needed, against all
> advice, by directly editing sendmail.cf.  Last time not.  Combination of
> cook-booking and BatBook groveling and m4.  A separate language just to
> edit a config file?  Yow!

Having said that, I use a macro processor (not m4) for lightly 
preprocessing my input to ipfw.



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#220234 — Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet

From	John Levine <johnl@taugh.com>
Date	2022-03-04 21:39 +0000
Subject	Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet
Message-ID	<svu0v9$2ln6$1@gal.iecc.com>
In reply to	#220231

According to Mike Spencer  <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere>:
>> With m4 comes great crock-ery. I hate it.
>
>What he said. For awhile, I managed to get what I needed, against
>all advice, by directly editing sendmail.cf.  Last time not.  Combination
>of cook-booking and BatBook groveling and m4.  A separate language
>just to edit a config file?  Yow!

As the old saying goes, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a thumb.

There were a lot of macrogenerators floating around in the 1960s.  m4 was a fairly
direct rewrite in 1977 of Strachey's GPM which was written around 1964.

If you were developing a Unix mail program in the early 1980s, and you found
that the config files were getting tedious to write by hand, and you
looked for a tool to automate the repetitive parts, m4 is what you had.

I agree it would be nice if someone had redone the config language to be less opaque,
and maybe even strip out some of the complex rewriting stuff nobody has used in this
millennium, but if you care about that, you use postfix or exim.

Can't explain gnu autoconf, though.  That was a decade later and by then we all knew
how painful m4 was.

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John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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#220236 — Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet

From	Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date	2022-03-04 22:17 +0000
Subject	Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet
Message-ID	<j8fhfbFhr6oU7@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#220234

On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:39:53 +0000, John Levine wrote:

> There were a lot of macrogenerators floating around in the 1960s.  m4
> was a fairly direct rewrite in 1977 of Strachey's GPM which was written
> around 1964.

This is the one I still use:

 http://www.ml1.org.uk

The guy was at Cambridge around the time of Strachey, but he wanted 
something much more general. No marker to introduce a macro.
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#220239 — Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet

From	Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date	2022-03-04 17:07 -0700
Subject	Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet
Message-ID	<1208487086.668131331.469169.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#220236

Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:39:53 +0000, John Levine wrote:
> 
>> There were a lot of macrogenerators floating around in the 1960s.  m4
>> was a fairly direct rewrite in 1977 of Strachey's GPM which was written
>> around 1964.
> 
> This is the one I still use:
> 
>  http://www.ml1.org.uk
> 
> The guy was at Cambridge around the time of Strachey, but he wanted 
> something much more general. No marker to introduce a macro.

Funny this comes up. Right now I’m working on a work-alike for IBM’s PL/I
macro preprocessor. The input is mostly free-form, and the macro language
itself is roughly a subset of PL/I. I won’t post a link to the current
version, which I labeled “pre-alpha” and has some problems, but the new
version will be coming along “real soon now” and fixes all the bugs that
have been identified.

-- 
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#220240 — Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet

From	Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date	2022-03-05 00:12 +0000
Subject	Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet
Message-ID	<j8fo7rFhr6oU9@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#220239

On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 17:07:20 -0700, Peter Flass wrote:

> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:39:53 +0000, John Levine wrote:
>> 
>>> There were a lot of macrogenerators floating around in the 1960s.  m4
>>> was a fairly direct rewrite in 1977 of Strachey's GPM which was
>>> written around 1964.
>> 
>> This is the one I still use:
>> 
>>  http://www.ml1.org.uk
>> 
>> The guy was at Cambridge around the time of Strachey, but he wanted
>> something much more general. No marker to introduce a macro.
> 
> Funny this comes up. Right now I’m working on a work-alike for IBM’s
> PL/I macro preprocessor. The input is mostly free-form, and the macro
> language itself is roughly a subset of PL/I. I won’t post a link to the
> current version, which I labeled “pre-alpha” and has some problems, but
> the new version will be coming along “real soon now” and fixes all the
> bugs that have been identified.

THe guy who did the one I'm talking about (he passed it all on to me two 
decades ago) worked for IBM Hursley, UK for a bit. The name of tyhe macro 
processor was a piss take on IBM.

He called it@   ML/I



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#220241 — Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet

From	meff <email@example.com>
Date	2022-03-05 00:26 +0000
Subject	Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet
Message-ID	<svuann$5dh$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#220236

On 2022-03-04, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
> On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:39:53 +0000, John Levine wrote:
> This is the one I still use:
>
>  http://www.ml1.org.uk
>
> The guy was at Cambridge around the time of Strachey, but he wanted 
> something much more general. No marker to introduce a macro.

Huh I'd been looking for M4 alternatives, thanks. This is an
interesting thing to check out.

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#220244 — Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet

From	scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal)
Date	2022-03-05 15:48 +0000
Subject	Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet
Message-ID	<gDLUJ.56113$oF2.23397@fx10.iad>
In reply to	#220236

Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:
>On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:39:53 +0000, John Levine wrote:
>
>> There were a lot of macrogenerators floating around in the 1960s.  m4
>> was a fairly direct rewrite in 1977 of Strachey's GPM which was written
>> around 1964.
>
>This is the one I still use:
>
> http://www.ml1.org.uk
>
>The guy was at Cambridge around the time of Strachey, but he wanted 
>something much more general. No marker to introduce a macro.

Today, I generally use the C pre-processor rather than m4.

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#220245 — Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet

From	Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx>
Date	2022-03-05 20:56 +0000
Subject	Re: ancient macros SUSE Reviving Usenet
Message-ID	<j8i145Fm0ltU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to	#220244

On Sat, 05 Mar 2022 15:48:28 +0000, Scott Lurndal wrote:

> Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> writes:
>>On Fri, 04 Mar 2022 21:39:53 +0000, John Levine wrote:
>>
>>> There were a lot of macrogenerators floating around in the 1960s.  m4
>>> was a fairly direct rewrite in 1977 of Strachey's GPM which was
>>> written around 1964.
>>
>>This is the one I still use:
>>
>> http://www.ml1.org.uk
>>
>>The guy was at Cambridge around the time of Strachey, but he wanted
>>something much more general. No marker to introduce a macro.
> 
> Today, I generally use the C pre-processor rather than m4.

It is really very basic. NO macro-time decision making, or macro time 
variables, etc.



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#220238

From	Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date	2022-03-04 13:35 -1000
Message-ID	<871qzh47g0.fsf@localhost>
In reply to	#220223

Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> writes:
> I remember having to use the % hack to get email from Bitnet to an IP
> address.  How long has it been since you've had to do anthing like
> that?

co-worker at cambridge science center was responsible for what becomes
the ibm internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just
about the beginning until sometime mid/late 80s) ... was also used
for the corporate sponsored BITNET:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET

77, we transfer out to IBM San Jose Research and in fall of 1982 get
a csnet gateway (NSF funds CSNET, later merges with BITNET)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CSNET
CSNET was a forerunner of the National Science Foundation Network
(NSFNet) which eventually became a backbone of the Internet. CSNET
operated autonomously until 1989, when it merged with Bitnet to form the
Corporation for Research and Educational Networking (CREN). By 1991, the
success of the NSFNET and NSF-sponsored regional networks had rendered
the CSNET services redundant, and the CSNET network was shut down in
October 1991.[9]

... snip ...

1998 afc post with SJR CSNET gateway announce
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/98.html#email821022
2000 afc posts with CSNET email about ARPANET moving off NCP to TCP/IP
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#email821230
and CSNET email about transition had more than few problems
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#email830212

Edson was responsible for the internal network
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
SJMerc article about Edson (he recently passed aug2020) and "IBM'S
MISSED OPPORTUNITY WITH THE INTERNET" (gone behind paywall but lives
free at wayback machine) SJMerc article 
http://web.archive.org/web/20000124004147/http://www1.sjmercury.com/svtech/columns/gillmor/docs/dg092499.htm

Also from wayback machine, some references off Ed's website
http://web.archive.org/web/20000115185349/http://www.edh.net/bungle.htm

Starting early 80s, I had HSDT project (T1 and faster computer links)
and working with the NSF director, was suppose to get $20M to
interconnect the NSF supercomputer centers ... then congress cuts the
budget, some other things happen, and finally an RFP is released (based
in part on what we already had running). Copy of Preliminary announce
(Mar1986)
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2002k.html#12

The OASC has initiated three programs: The Supercomputer Centers Program
to provide Supercomputer cycles; the New Technologies Program to foster
new supercomputer software and hardware developments; and the Networking
Program to build a National Supercomputer Access Network - NSFnet.

... internal IBM politics prevent us from bidding on the RFP. the NSF
director tries to help by writing the company a letter (with support
from other agencies), but that just makes the internal politics worse
(as did claims that what we already had running was at least 5yrs ahead
of the winning bid). The winning bid doesn't even install T1 links
called for ... they are 440kbit/sec links ... but apparently to make it
look like its meeting the requirements, they install telco multiplexors
with T1 trunks (running multiple links/trunk). We periodically ridicule
them that why don't they call it a T5 network (because some of those T1
trunks would in turn be multiplexed over T3 or even T5 trunks). as
regional networks connect in, it becomes the NSFNET backbone, precursor
to modern internet
https://www.technologyreview.com/s/401444/grid-computing/

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#219855

From	"Kurt Weiske" <kurt.weiske@realitycheckbbs.org.remove-vck-this>
Date	2021-11-26 09:42 -0800
Message-ID	<61A3AC35.645.news.afc@realitycheckbbs.org>
In reply to	#219843

  To: David Lesher
-=> David Lesher wrote to sci.crypt,alt.folklore.computers <=-

 DL> I arrived between the Great Renaming and the "kremvax" successor
 DL> April Fools post about not being fooled by forged Usenet posts;
 DL> does anyone recall that year?

1984?

My first experiences on usenet were 1993-1994 or so, reading the ba.* 
newsgroups and comp.dcom.telecom. I was a telecom manager in a former life, 
back when desk phones roamed the corporate world.

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#219474

From	sidd@situ.com
Date	2021-10-16 06:40 +0000
Message-ID	<slrnsmkurp.6pa.sidd@hugin.membrane.com>
In reply to	#219171

On 2021-09-30, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:

>
> 40 years for me, and that's more than half of mine!
>

In the 80s i was on BITNET and had access to usenet, but i cannot find 
any posts anymore. My address used to be sidd@ohstpy and i was mostly
active on the physics groups. Toward the end of the 80s i switched to
a more contemporary email address, something like sidd@.xxx.xxx.edu

The google archive os quite horrible, as most here know, and i have 
long since taken to saving anything i might wish to retain on local
drives.

sidd

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#219476

From	D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com>
Date	2021-10-16 09:14 -0500
Message-ID	<6hnlmgtbbd9afh0ahjmt6ip8c5fup95kpi@4ax.com>
In reply to	#219474

On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 06:40:29 -0000 (UTC), sidd@situ.com wrote:
>On 2021-09-30, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>
>>
>> 40 years for me, and that's more than half of mine!
>>
>
>In the 80s i was on BITNET and had access to usenet, but i cannot find 
>any posts anymore. My address used to be sidd@ohstpy and i was mostly
>active on the physics groups. Toward the end of the 80s i switched to
>a more contemporary email address, something like sidd@.xxx.xxx.edu
>
>The google archive os quite horrible, as most here know, and i have 
>long since taken to saving anything i might wish to retain on local
>drives.
>
>sidd

I was on Bitnet in the late 1980s. Mostly on an Amiga listserv email
list.

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#219477

From	Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com>
Date	2021-10-16 13:19 -0700
Message-ID	<1153408219.656108143.847960.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>
In reply to	#219476

D.J. <chucktheouch@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 06:40:29 -0000 (UTC), sidd@situ.com wrote:
>> On 2021-09-30, Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 40 years for me, and that's more than half of mine!
>>> 
>> 
>> In the 80s i was on BITNET and had access to usenet, but i cannot find 
>> any posts anymore. My address used to be sidd@ohstpy and i was mostly
>> active on the physics groups. Toward the end of the 80s i switched to
>> a more contemporary email address, something like sidd@.xxx.xxx.edu
>> 
>> The google archive os quite horrible, as most here know, and i have 
>> long since taken to saving anything i might wish to retain on local
>> drives.
>> 
>> sidd
> 
> I was on Bitnet in the late 1980s. Mostly on an Amiga listserv email
> list.
> 

The best thing about Bitnet was that each host was an actively managed
system. If you started to get insults, threats, etc. from someone you could
contact POSTMAST AT <host>. In really bad cases they could revoke the
user’s access to Bitnet.

-- 
Pete

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#219479

From	Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date	2021-10-17 17:31 -1000
Message-ID	<87k0ib100k.fsf@localhost>
In reply to	#219477

Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
> The best thing about Bitnet was that each host was an actively managed
> system. If you started to get insults, threats, etc. from someone you
> could contact POSTMAST AT <host>. In really bad cases they could
> revoke the user’s access to Bitnet.

co-worker at (IBM) cambridge science center was responsible for the
internal network (larger than arpanet/internet from just about the
beginning until sometime mid/late 80s)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edson_Hendricks
... technology was also used for the corporate sponsored university
BITNET (which was also larger than arpanet/internet for a time).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BITNET

I was blamed for online computer conferencing on the internal network in
the late 70s and early 80s (folklore is that when corporate executive
committee was told about it, 5of6 wanted to fire me). Afterwards, there
was officially sanctioned computer conferencing software and discussion
groups (with moderators).

I have old (1984) email from person in Paris tasked with setting up
BITNET in Europe (EARN):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Academic_Research_Network#EARN
looking for networking applications. Early history (1985) of LISTSERV
(had subset of functions available in internal computer conferencing
software)
http://www.lsoft.com/products/listserv-history.asp

trivia: TYMSHARE:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tymshare
had started offering its (VM370/)CMS-based online computer conferencing
free to the (mainframe user group) SHARE
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SHARE_(computing)
in AUG1976, archives here:
http://vm.marist.edu/~vmshare

I had a deal with TYMSHARE to get monthly tape dump of all VMSHARE files
for putting up on internal systems and network ... which sort of what
sucked me into also doing computer conferencing on the internal
corporate network.

we both transfer to silicon valley in 1977, SJMerc article about Edson
and "IBM'S MISSED OPPORTUNITY WITH THE INTERNET" (gone behind paywall
but lives free at wayback machine)
http://web.archive.org/web/20000124004147/http://www1.sjmercury.com/svtech/columns/gillmor/docs/dg092499.htm
Above article references Ed's website, other articles from Ed ... from
the wayback machine.
http://web.archive.org/web/20000115185349/http://www.edh.net/bungle.htm

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#219504

From	Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Date	2021-10-23 09:52 -1000
Message-ID	<87bl3ftt6i.fsf@localhost>
In reply to	#219477

archived recent post in (facebook) internet history group, mentions
internal corporate network, bitnet, csnet, nsfnet, etc.
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2021j.html#54
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2021j.html#55

references archived a.f.c. post with copy of Aug1989 "A Critical
Analysis of the Internet Management Situation" from "THE CRUCIBLE"
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2000e.html#19

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#219202

From	lawrenabae@abaluon.abaom (Lawrence Statton (NK1G))
Date	2021-10-01 16:26 -0500
Message-ID	<87mtns77yh.fsf@cluon.com>
In reply to	#219157

Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> writes:
> On Thu, 30 Sep 2021 01:44:05 -0400, Michael Trew wrote:
> I'm reading and posting for 25 years now, which is more than half of my
> life (is that what you call "Half Life? ;-).

My first Usenet post was in 1985 — before the Great Renaming.

--
NK1G
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#219209

From	Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com>
Date	2021-10-01 23:19 -0500
Message-ID	<sj8mkj$lcs$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to	#219137

On 9/30/2021 12:44 AM, Michael Trew wrote:
> On 9/29/2021 10:44 AM, Rich wrote:
>> Now we have a problem that few folks younger than X even know of
>> Usenet, or if they do, they only know if it as "that place where one
>> downloads binaries via NZB files".  And with #1 (few ISP's carrying it
>> anymore) it is hard to gain new folks joining up to discuss anything.
> 
> Ah, but there must be a few stand-outs.. I've been lurking in various 
> text newsgroups for years, and posting in a few as well.  I'm 26 years 
> old, for the record.. :)

I hooked my dialup BBS to a few newsgroups in the mid '90s (yes, 
UUCP). My BBS was business oriented, so alas I had to deal with a few 
spammers (who I think at that time just didn't know it wasn't 
acceptable). Then came the web, and dialups vanished.

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#219163

From	usenet@only.tnx (Questor)
Date	2021-09-30 18:38 +0000
Message-ID	<6156040a.3268209@news.dslextreme.com>
In reply to	#219114

On Wed, 29 Sep 2021 14:44:06 -0000 (UTC), Rich <rich@example.invalid> wrote:
>In sci.crypt 711 Spooky Mart <711@spooky.mart> wrote:
>> I've been lurking Usenet for decades and I never considered it dead.
>> It's obscure because most people are mesmerized by social media, reddit,
>> and the like.
>
>It is also obscure because:
>
>  1) many (most?) ISP's began dropping NNTP feeds as part of their 
>     provided package of features when one purchased an account.  If 
>     one's ISP did not provide NNTP, and the person signing up did not 
>     already know of Usenet and also know how to buy separate access, 
>     then there was limited to no discovery on the part of new people 
>     on the 'net' of Usenet

As I mentioned in another forum, blame also needs to be placed on former New
York Attorney General Eliot Spitzer, who threatened to prosecute ISPs over
alleged child pornography in binary newsgoups and gave the major ISPs an excuse
to shut down their NNTP servers entirely back in the mid-aughts.

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