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| Started by | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| First post | 2016-06-29 15:11 +0100 |
| Last post | 2016-06-30 18:22 +0000 |
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Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 15:11 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-06-29 16:14 +0200
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 16:57 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-06-29 11:02 -0500
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-29 17:59 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> - 2016-06-29 19:37 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-06-29 19:41 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-29 20:36 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:20 +0000
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-06-30 19:40 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-06-30 16:26 -0700
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-01 09:40 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2016-07-01 09:58 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2016-07-01 11:20 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-07-01 12:49 +0000
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-07-01 11:37 -0400
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> - 2016-07-01 13:09 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> - 2016-06-30 09:06 +0100
Re: Nearly there, linuxing ... mausg@mail.com - 2016-06-30 18:22 +0000
| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 15:11 +0100 |
| Subject | Nearly there, linuxing ... |
| Message-ID | <nl0kue$4q4$1@dont-email.me> |
In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names, and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should in fact be labelled "/". Much googling has no revealed the answer. Anyone here know the answer? Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing Windows XP.
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| From | Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 16:14 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <nl0l3l$i5n$2@news.albasani.net> |
| In reply to | #166121 |
On 6/29/16 4:11 PM, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names, > and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should > in fact be labelled "/". > > Much googling has no revealed the answer. > > Anyone here know the answer? > > Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing > Windows XP. > > In Linux, partitions are represented as block devices. eg : /dev/sda1 What you think is actually mount point.
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 16:57 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nl0r59$rmd$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #166121 |
"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote in message news:nl0kue$4q4$1@dont-email.me... > In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names, > and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should > in fact be labelled "/". > Much googling has no revealed the answer. > Anyone here know the answer? > Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing > Windows XP. All went well except that the menus.lst produced by puppy's version of grub would not boot windows. So, resorting to the on-line manual, copied verbatim what the manual said should be for the Windows boot and now is all hunky dory!
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| From | Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 11:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <AN2dnXOz5_xjbe7KnZ2dnUU7-I3NnZ2d@giganews.com> |
| In reply to | #166121 |
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names, > and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should > in fact be labelled "/". > > Much googling has no revealed the answer. > > Anyone here know the answer? > Yes, the "root directory" is / The partition table is totally separate from the file system, in fact you can have several different file systems (Linux, Windows) on one disk in different partitions. For quite some time Linux has been able to boot from a single partition, but there are some slight benefits to having the kernel and boot files in a separate partition/file system. That would be the /boot partiton/file system. Also, most large desktop systems have a swap partition, which does not have a file system on it. Not sure if I have added confusion with the above, hope not. > Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing > Windows XP. I have been using Ubuntu for a long time, and only run a couple CAD packages on XP via virtualbox, under the Linux system. I've been using Linux since 1998, my family has been using Linux pretty exclusively since the mid 2000's, I think. Jon
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| From | "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 17:59 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.yjtv5izlmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup> |
| In reply to | #166135 |
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:02:05 +0100, Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> wrote: > gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > >> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names, >> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should >> in fact be labelled "/". >> >> Much googling has no revealed the answer. >> >> Anyone here know the answer? >> > Yes, the "root directory" is / > > The partition table is totally separate from the file system, in fact you > can have several different file systems (Linux, Windows) on one disk in > different partitions. For quite some time Linux has been able to boot > from > a single partition, but there are some slight benefits to having the > kernel > and boot files in a separate partition/file system. That would be the > /boot > partiton/file system. Also, most large desktop systems have a swap > partition, which does not have a file system on it. > > Not sure if I have added confusion with the above, hope not. > >> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing >> Windows XP. > > I have been using Ubuntu for a long time, and only run a couple CAD > packages > on XP via virtualbox, under the Linux system. I've been using Linux > since > 1998, my family has been using Linux pretty exclusively since the mid > 2000's, I think. > > Jon Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo, who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug
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| From | Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 19:37 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <20160629193742.5113086d@amaterasu> |
| In reply to | #166147 |
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:59:32 +0100 "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote: > Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo, > who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll. Yup, this is collateral damage from the battles in the UK's radio amateur "community". They're poisoning a lot of wells. OTOH gareth has been behaving much better in here than in other places, so I allow some slack. Mike
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| From | "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 19:41 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.yjt0vdztmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup> |
| In reply to | #166156 |
On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 19:37:42 +0100, Mike Causer <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:59:32 +0100 > "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote: > >> Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo, >> who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll. > > Yup, this is collateral damage from the battles in the UK's radio > amateur "community". They're poisoning a lot of wells. OTOH gareth > has been behaving much better in here than in other places, so I > allow some slack. That's generous of you, but once bitten, twice shy, is my motto. He silently xposted, I think he knows what he's about, just stirring. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-29 20:36 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nl180j$d52$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #166156 |
"Mike Causer" <m.r.causer@goglemail.com> wrote in message news:20160629193742.5113086d@amaterasu... > Yup, this is collateral damage from the battles in the UK's radio > amateur "community". They're poisoning a lot of wells. OTOH gareth > has been behaving much better in here than in other places, so I > allow some slack. I have _ALWAYS_ behaved with the utmost propriety on Usenet in the 22 years that I have been a subscriber. Do not confuse me with the Mongolian Hordes of abusive 5-year-olds who cannot disagree without introducing some rudeness or other and who stalk me wherever I choose to post.
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| From | mausg@mail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-30 18:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnnal73.1oi.mausg@Smaus.org> |
| In reply to | #166147 |
On 2016-06-29, Kerr Mudd-John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote: > On Wed, 29 Jun 2016 17:02:05 +0100, Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> > wrote: > >> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >> >>> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names, >>> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should >>> in fact be labelled "/". >>> >>> Much googling has no revealed the answer. >>> >>> Anyone here know the answer? >>> >> Yes, the "root directory" is / >> >> The partition table is totally separate from the file system, in fact you >> can have several different file systems (Linux, Windows) on one disk in >> different partitions. For quite some time Linux has been able to boot >> from >> a single partition, but there are some slight benefits to having the >> kernel >> and boot files in a separate partition/file system. That would be the >> /boot >> partiton/file system. Also, most large desktop systems have a swap >> partition, which does not have a file system on it. >> >> Not sure if I have added confusion with the above, hope not. >> >>> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing >>> Windows XP. >> >> I have been using Ubuntu for a long time, and only run a couple CAD >> packages >> on XP via virtualbox, under the Linux system. I've been using Linux >> since >> 1998, my family has been using Linux pretty exclusively since the mid >> 2000's, I think. >> >> Jon > > Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo, > who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll. > seconded. -- greymaus.ireland.ie . . ...
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-06-30 19:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nl3p35$hpl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #166202 |
<mausg@mail.com> wrote in message news:slrnnnal73.1oi.mausg@Smaus.org... > On 2016-06-29, Kerr Mudd-John <admin@127.0.0.1> wrote: >> >> Note the previous xpost; gareth is an electronics and computer supremo, >> who belittles anyone with lesser knowledge. i.e. a troll. >> > seconded. With good reason, because of his repeated rudeness, Kerr Mudd John (Curmudgeon) is KFed here. But I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me but unfortunately there are a number of you who respond childishly instead of merely voicing a difference of opinion in a mature fashion.
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| From | Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> |
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| Date | 2016-06-30 16:26 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <phabnb586ls3irprhp4u4g3r0b815g1cps@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #166205 |
On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 19:40:35 +0100, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339"
<no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote:
[snip]
>But I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me but unfortunately there
>are a number of you who respond childishly instead of merely voicing
>a difference of opinion in a mature fashion.
Pot-kettle-black.
Continually haranguing others about how they are supposely
childish is not "voicing a difference of opinion in a mature fashion."
Sincerely,
Gene Wirchenko
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 09:40 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nl5a9q$us$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #166219 |
"Gene Wirchenko" <genew@telus.net> wrote in message news:phabnb586ls3irprhp4u4g3r0b815g1cps@4ax.com... > On Thu, 30 Jun 2016 19:40:35 +0100, "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" > <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> wrote: >>But I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me but unfortunately >>there >>are a number of you who respond childishly instead of merely voicing >>a difference of opinion in a mature fashion. > > Pot-kettle-black. > > Continually haranguing others about how they are supposely > childish is not "voicing a difference of opinion in a mature fashion." Nonsense. The way for the childish abusers to hold sway is if the mature civilised adults remain silent.
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| From | Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 09:58 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <dtmpksFgjisU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #166205 |
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've pissed-off so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ...
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| From | "gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 11:20 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <nl5g4i$j0r$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #166229 |
"Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:dtmpksFgjisU2@mid.individual.net... > gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > >> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me > > Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've pissed-off > so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ... I fail to see how anybody could become pissed off by me.
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| From | jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 12:49 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <PM000536925DB1808D@aca42375.ipt.aol.com> |
| In reply to | #166232 |
gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message > news:dtmpksFgjisU2@mid.individual.net... >> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >> >>> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me >> >> Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've pissed-off >> so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ... > > I fail to see how anybody could become pissed off by me. > > <snort> Are you kidding? I've told you; you still have not reexamined your assumptions. /BAH
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| From | Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 11:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <nl62ni$huh$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #166232 |
"gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> writes: > "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message > news:dtmpksFgjisU2@mid.individual.net... >> gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >> >>> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me >> >> Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've pissed-off >> so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ... > > I fail to see how anybody could become pissed off by me. After your claim that you work on systems more complicated than anyone I decided I'd just not respond. I wouldn't say I was pissed off though. Just not interested because you didn't offer any information. -- Dan Espen
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| From | "Kerr Mudd-John" <admin@127.0.0.1> |
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| Date | 2016-07-01 13:09 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <op.yjw715gfmsr2db@dell3100.workgroup> |
| In reply to | #166229 |
On Fri, 01 Jul 2016 09:58:03 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote: > gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > >> I am no troll; I discuss things that interest me > > Discussing requires more than one person, unfortunately you've > pissed-off so many people, you're left muttering to yourself ... > PDFTT. Or if you do want to, ura (sometimes spelt ukra) is over there --> -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug
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| From | AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> |
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| Date | 2016-06-30 09:06 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <5q4dz.73133$S64.61176@fx11.fr7> |
| In reply to | #166121 |
On 29/06/2016 15:11, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: > In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names, > and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should > in fact be labelled "/". > > Much googling has no revealed the answer. > > Anyone here know the answer? > > Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing > Windows XP. > Your disks sit under the /dev/ directory and should be named sda/sdb/sdc/... and the active partitions on this disk are normally should be sequentially numbered under the disk ID sda1/sda2/sda3/... / is not a partition your patition tables and directiory tables are different things. / is your root directory, all other directories sit under this. You can physically put /home somewhere else and symbolically link it to /. I usually have a dedicated /home partition for ease for backup. Additionally I have a swap partition that is 2 or 3 times the size of my RAM. Andy
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| From | mausg@mail.com |
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| Date | 2016-06-30 18:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <slrnnnalbb.1oi.mausg@Smaus.org> |
| In reply to | #166184 |
On 2016-06-30, AndyW <Andy@nojunqmail.com> wrote: > On 29/06/2016 15:11, gareth G4SDW GQRP #3339 wrote: >> In Linux, partition names are not in the same tree as directory names, >> and I cannot pin down whether my intended main partition should >> in fact be labelled "/". >> >> Much googling has no revealed the answer. >> >> Anyone here know the answer? >> >> Otherwise, puppy linux slacko-6.3.2-uefi is well on the way to replacing >> Windows XP. >> > > Your disks sit under the /dev/ directory and should be named > sda/sdb/sdc/... and the active partitions on this disk are normally > should be sequentially numbered under the disk ID sda1/sda2/sda3/... > > / is not a partition your patition tables and directiory tables are > different things. > > / is your root directory, all other directories sit under this. > > You can physically put /home somewhere else and symbolically link it to > /. I usually have a dedicated /home partition for ease for backup. > Additionally I have a swap partition that is 2 or 3 times the size of my > RAM. > > Andy > You have /home symbolically linked to `/'?.. Hmmm? -- greymaus.ireland.ie . . ...
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