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| From | Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: “A damn stupid thing to do”—the origins of C |
| Date | 2020-12-21 08:11 +0000 |
| Organization | news.netcologne.de |
| Message-ID | <rrplbp$f28$1@newsreader4.netcologne.de> (permalink) |
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Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> schrieb: > Yep, z/OS was pretty tightly tied to 8 character all upper case external > symbols. IBM seemed to struggle with the problem. It looked like, at > first, they didn't want to mess with the linker. That linker was a pig (or still is, I guess). I remember, back in the day, writing programs that used a Calcomp graphics library on a 3090. They took around 20 minutes, wall time, to link. As a student assistant, I was paid by the hour, but it as still aggravating. It was a revelation when the first HP workstations arrived, and gnuplot came along. If you've ever wondered why gnuplot's PostScript terminal has all these circles and squares where each quadrant is either filled or isn't (just run "test" on a PostScript terminal in gnuplot): I created these for a friend. His advisor had extremely strict standards of what graphs should look like in a PhD thesis, and it had always been done by a draftsman before. > HP/UX is just another Unix flavor. Like I said, I don't remember a lot > of details but somehow the other UNIX vendors managed to hide the > ugliness better than HP and IBM did. Compiling software from the net could be a headache. Of course, these were the days where everything had #ifdef __HPUX__ or similar, long before today's configure scripts. Of course, I haven't used HP-UX for more than 20 years. It would be interesting to sit down at one of these old boxes and try the look and feel today.
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Re: “A damn stupid thing to do”—the origins of C Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-12-21 08:11 +0000
Re: “A damn stupid thing to do”—the origins of C Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-12-22 10:39 -0700
Re: “A damn stupid thing to do”—the origins of C Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-12-21 17:33 +0000
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