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Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer?

From Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer?
Date 2020-06-18 20:30 +0000
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On 2020-06-18, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:

> J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On 17 Jun 2020 21:18:49 GMT, Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Wed, 2020-06-17, Dallas wrote:
>>> ...
>>> (1973)
>>> 
>>>> #1 a programmer who had a reputation of slinging out code
>>>> quickly that actually worked, but whose code had to then
>>>> be taken by other programmers and made suitable for
>>>> incorporation into the product for reasons of maintainability.
>>> ...
>>>> #1 - this was actually a workable arrangement
>>> 
>>> Not quite unlike the practice of code reviews, popular today.
>>> 
>>> Although I hope the imbalance is rare. Maybe that first guy should
>>> just have been brought in to generate design ideas.
>> 
>> I have encountered a similar situation.  Give the guy a calculation to
>> solve and he'll produce code that solves it.  But he just plain could
>> not grasp concepts like "Production code must not halt on any
>> anticipated error"--he'd merrily test for an error condition and crash
>> the program instead of making the extra effort to make it recover.  
>
> Error recovery makes up large amount of production code, and it’s usually
> not “fun” to write.

Indeed.  But when a system falls over due to an unhandled error,
it's usually not "fun" to get it back up again either.  Anyone
who skimps on error handling should be forced to participate in
said recovery.  (It's a variation on "eating your own dog food".)

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The shambolic self-taught programmer? Gareth Evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-17 11:34 +0100
  Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-17 06:48 -0500
    Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-06-17 21:18 +0000
      Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-17 19:32 -0400
        Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-06-18 14:45 +0000
          Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-18 18:01 -0400
            Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-18 17:21 -0500
              Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-19 10:03 -0700
                Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-19 17:22 -0400
        Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-18 11:18 -0700
          Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-06-18 20:30 +0000
            Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-06-18 22:56 +0100
              Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2020-06-20 13:00 +0200
                Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-06-20 15:01 -0400
                Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> - 2020-06-20 20:02 +0000
                Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-06-20 20:32 +0000
                Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-06-20 21:34 +0100
            Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-06-18 22:23 +0000
  Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? mentificium@gmail.com - 2020-06-17 07:21 -0700
    Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2020-06-17 12:39 -0500
  Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-06-18 11:17 -0700
    Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? Dallas <dallas@texas.usa> - 2020-06-18 13:39 -0500
      Re: The shambolic self-taught programmer? "Kerr-Mudd,John" <notsaying@invalid.org> - 2020-06-19 07:48 +0000

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