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Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD!

From Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD!
Date 2020-09-26 11:24 +0000
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2020 05:48:32 +0000, Jorgen Grahn wrote:

> As I understand it, only the disk I/O and filesystem were taken from
> TRIPOS: dos.library.  And it was a way to cut corners; it was not
> something people /wanted/ to have.  I vaguely remember it being hard to
> program against, because it used Pascal strings and pointers were to
> 32-bit words (?)

You may well be right; I must find out more.

The strings were stored as a count byte followed by that number of 
characters. That may well be a 'Pascal string' but TRIPOS was written in 
BCPL, and that certainly uses that as a string format.

The file system is quite interesting, with some metadata within each file 
block (which was to increase resilience, but in some situations could be 
a pain). I know this because I have been digging deep into TRIPOS, and 
have recently written a program to create and populate a TRIPOS disk 
image.

-- 
Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

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SYSTEMD? EGAD! gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-08 12:08 +0100
  Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-08 11:13 +0000
    Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 07:57 -0400
      Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-08 13:27 +0000
        Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 06:40 -0700
          Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-08 16:21 +0000
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 09:27 -0700
        Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-08 14:31 +0000
          Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-08 14:34 +0000
      Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-08 16:14 +0100
      Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2020-09-10 11:20 +0000
        Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-10 11:57 +0000
          Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 08:23 -0400
          Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-10 17:37 +0100
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-10 17:37 +0000
        Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 08:19 -0400
          Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Stefan Möding <Sep2020.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2020-09-10 14:32 +0200
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 09:15 -0400
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-10 13:30 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 09:34 -0400
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-10 13:35 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 10:00 -0400
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 07:15 -0700
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-10 14:22 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-10 16:01 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-09-10 17:18 +0100
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Andy Leighton <andyl@azaal.plus.com> - 2020-09-10 11:59 -0500
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-09-10 18:20 +0100
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-10 23:12 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-11 06:35 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-10 23:23 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-09-11 01:11 +0100
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! JimP <chucktheouch@gmail.com> - 2020-09-11 09:11 -0500
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-10 16:24 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-10 17:03 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Andreas Kohlbach <ank@spamfence.net> - 2020-09-10 17:55 -0400
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-11 02:12 -0300
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2020-09-11 20:41 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-11 21:11 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-09-12 15:06 +0100
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-12 16:03 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Chris <xxx.syseng.yyy@gfsys.co.uk> - 2020-09-26 16:05 +0100
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-25 23:15 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-09-10 23:55 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Stefan Möding <Sep2020.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2020-09-11 08:09 +0200
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-09-10 23:54 +0000
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Stefan Möding <Sep2020.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2020-09-10 15:54 +0200
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Dan Espen <dan1espen@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 10:14 -0400
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Melzzzzz <Melzzzzz@zzzzz.com> - 2020-09-10 23:57 +0000
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-10 15:56 +0000
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-10 09:53 -0700
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-25 23:03 +0000
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-26 08:35 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-26 18:37 +0000
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Stefan Möding <Sep2020.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2020-09-26 17:41 +0200
          Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! antispam@math.uni.wroc.pl - 2020-09-10 16:09 +0000
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2020-09-10 12:17 -0400
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-10 09:53 -0700
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de> - 2020-09-11 13:22 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2020-09-11 13:39 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-11 14:11 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2020-09-11 20:24 -0300
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2020-09-10 17:21 +0000
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-10 17:36 +0000
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-10 17:34 +0000
        Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-10 17:14 +0100
        Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-10 09:53 -0700
          Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Niklas Karlsson <anksil@yahoo.se> - 2020-09-10 17:05 +0000
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Stefan Möding <Sep2020.5.kill-9@spamgourmet.com> - 2020-09-10 19:13 +0200
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2020-09-10 19:19 +0000
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-10 17:39 +0000
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2020-09-10 20:25 +0100
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-10 20:23 +0000
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-26 05:48 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-26 11:24 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2020-09-26 16:14 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-26 20:53 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! maus <maus@dmaus.org> - 2020-09-26 12:44 +0000
                Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-26 13:03 +0000
  Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Douglas Miller <durgadas311@gmail.com> - 2020-09-08 06:04 -0700
    Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-08 16:16 +0100
      Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-08 16:22 +0100
      Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-08 15:40 +0000
        Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-08 19:42 +0100
          Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-08 19:52 +0100
            Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! Bob Eager <news0073@eager.cx> - 2020-09-08 19:38 +0000
              Re: SYSTEMD? EGAD! gareth evans <headstone255@yahoo.com> - 2020-09-08 21:02 +0100

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