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Re: AM radio Qbasic

From Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: AM radio Qbasic
Date 2016-05-08 18:34 +0200
Organization Me, Myself and I
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In article <3cnuibla8ai8jej57488qd3s27k4q6l471@4ax.com>,
JimP  <solosam90@gmail.com> wrote:
>On Sun, 8 May 2016 02:36:36 +0200, Morten Reistad
><first@last.name.invalid> wrote:
>
>>In article <MPG.319829377ea5de0b98a17b@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>J. Clarke <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>In article <85n10d-dq6.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>, 
>>>first@last.name.invalid says...
>>>> 
>>>> In article <dp6jqlFer1iU1@mid.individual.net>, Simo <dhy287@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >"J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote in message 
>>>> >news:MPG.31978100c61db8a398a16f@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> >> In article <cmcvvc-82r.ln1@sambook.reistad.name>,
>>>> >> first@last.name.invalid says...
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> In article <slrnnipaqk.18n.mausg@Smaus.org>,  <mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> >On 2016-05-06, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> >><mausg@mail.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>> On 2016-05-04, Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>> Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>>> On 03/05/2016 13:35, Ahem A Rivet's Shot wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>>>> On 3 May 2016 11:50:50 GMT
>>>> >>> >>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>> >>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>> >>>>>>> The US is repeating the mid-1960s again.
>>>> >>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>> >>>>>> So we can expect some decent music and a space program in the near
>>>> >>> >>>>>> future then, along with a number of less pleasant things.
>>>> >>> >>>>>>
>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>> >>> >>>>> NASA is not going back to the Moon but its children are. Moon 
>>>> >>> >>>>> Express
>>>> >>> >>>>> plans to land on the Moon next year.
>>>> >>> >>>>>
>>>> >>> >>>>
>>>> >>> >>>> NASA are idiots.
>>>> >>> >>>>
>>>> >>> >>> because?
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>>
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >> Given all the problems with getting to Mars it would seem to make 
>>>> >>> >> sense to
>>>> >>> >> start with something a bit closer and then scale up.  Fortunately some
>>>> >>> >> private groups want to go to the Moon, otherwise you'd need a Chinese
>>>> >>> >> passport to go there in a few years.
>>>> >>> >>
>>>> >>> >
>>>> >>> >I think that Maars is a handy unattainable goal, you can talk about it
>>>> >>> >forever without having to actuallly go there. Consider a Soviet gulag on
>>>> >>> >the Kolmya, it is a veritable paradise compared to Mars, even a capsule
>>>> >>> > at the botom of the ocean would be. Discovering something useful.. very
>>>> >>> >unlikely. A base on the Moon, and on to the asteroids, would be a better
>>>> >>> >goal.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Indeed. Even the most inhospitable place on Earth. The cold poles in 
>>>> >>> Siberia
>>>> >>> or Antarctica are still several tens of degrees warmer than the average
>>>> >>> Martian winter. And there is breathable air here, and a sheltering 
>>>> >>> magnetic
>>>> >>> field protecting us from the constant flux of solar wind and interstellar
>>>> >>> particles.
>>>> >>>
>>>> >>> Mars has none of this. The stunts that brought 12 men to the moon and
>>>> >>> back will not make it there. It takes less than a week to get back from
>>>> >>> the moon, and a backup "chute" is perfectly doable. Taking off in an
>>>> >>> emergency chute is just duplicating the Apollo CM and LM. Having a few
>>>> >>> extra LMs deployed and a CM or two in permanent orbit should not break
>>>> >>> a moon budget.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> "chute"?  That is not a word in English.  If you mean something to do
>>>> >> with parachutes, parachutes do not help you if you are crashed on the
>>>> >> Moon.
>>>> 
>>>> Oh, so I created an English word? 
>>>> 
>>>> It is self-evident. Bailout. 
>>>> 
>>>> >>> But the distance and gravity for Mars make this several orders of
>>>> >>> magnitude more difficult.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> The difficult we do right now, the impossible takes a little while.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Why does something being difficult seem to you to make it an
>>>> >> insurmountable obstacle?
>>>> >
>>>> >Because some things are. Try farting your way to the moon for example. 
>>>> 
>>>> No, it is not insurmountable. But it is WAY more difficult going to Mars
>>>> than to the moon. Not least if you want to do it sort-of-safely, and
>>>> have the option to come back.
>>>> 
>>>> An escape system from the moon duplicating Apollo would need the Apollo
>>>> LM ascent stage, the Command and Service modules. The first two weigh
>>>> around 5 tons each, the latter around 25; 18 of which are propellant.
>>>> 
>>>> This means ~18 tons per person. 
>>>> 
>>>> A CM/SM combo could be had in high moon orbit for decades, made to descend
>>>> on demand. The LM would need some maintenance, but a fuel&comsumables store and
>>>> some solar panels to charge the batteries shoul mostly do it. The crew
>>>> would spend s few hours there, so no food and only a little water would
>>>> be needed, plus some oxygen and scrubber.
>>>> 
>>>> The CM/SM would need up to 6 days of travel time, given pessimal orbit
>>>> alignments.
>>>> 
>>>> On Mars we are in a whole different league. At ~$300-900/gram for transport; 
>>>> vs ~$50-100 for transport to the moon (at scales, suitable for humans) Mars
>>>> is several times as expensive, 
>>>> 
>>>> The speed to get from moon surface to low moon orbit is around 1.6 km/sec.
>>>> Similar for Mars is around 4.7 (to slightly higher orbit due to athmosphere).
>>>> This is three times as large. This is the limiting factor in terms of cost.
>>>> The LM Ascent stage would need to grow from around 5 tons to about 35, by some
>>>> back of the envelope calculations; increasing the fuel load from ~1800 kg
>>>> to around ~22000 kg, and with a lot bigger and heavier rockets. This is 
>>>> idealised figures, based on a very flimsy shell like the LM. 
>>>> 
>>>> If we go by the low transport costs this is ~300 x 35 000 000 for Mars, and
>>>> ~50 x 5 000 000 to return two people to orbit from Moon. $ 10-11 billion 
>>>> for the Mars lander, $25 million for the Lunar lander. 
>>>> 
>>>> (this is just mass transport costs, the crafts themselves are extra). But a 
>>>> 1:500 cost differential should be reasonable.
>>>> 
>>>> The transport from the moon was 3.5 to 6 days. From Mars to earth is a
>>>> minimum of 6.5 months, but the maximum if you totally blow the launch
>>>> windows is in excess of two years; over 2/3rds of which is spent in high
>>>> Mars orbit.
>>>> 
>>>> Just feeding the humans for such a period implies a quite huge mass, 
>>>> and you would need shielding and redundancy for the craft. Budgeting
>>>> 20x the cost of the earth-moon craft should be a low one.
>>>> 
>>>> The upside of this is that a trip to the moons of Jupiter or Saturn
>>>> would not be much more expensive, just take longer.
>>>> 
>>>> Apollo cost $98 billion. A mars project bringing a similar number
>>>> of people back and forth with a similar degree of safety would cost 
>>>> at least 200x as much. $20 trillion, anyone?
>>>> 
>>>> -- mrr
>>>> 
>>>> I'll stick with an army of unmanned probes instead.
>>>>  
>>>
>>>Your argument is basically "The Wright Flyer can't cross the Atlantic so 
>>>nobody can every fly an airplane across the Atlantic".
>>
>>No, it is "A jumbo flying across oceans safely and at mach 0.8 is going
>>to cost a hell of a lot more than a Sopwith Camel or a Spitfire to 
>>build.".
>>
>>Until we fix the cost for bringing mass into space we cannot afford to
>>go to mars bringing humans there and back safely. 
>>
>>-- mrr
>>
>>
>
>I'll accept J. Clarke's statement as much of this whining about not
>being able to go to Mars, not just in this group, sounds more like the
>type of claims made when the move out of the caves came about and the
>use of that new thing called fire came into use.

If you want this analogy, we have just invented fire. Using wet wood
and flint. Very hard with limited effect.

We now need to find gasoline. 

A way to bring stuff into some high earth orbit. Or a high lunar/martian
one. 

A space elevator, perhaps, even though the materials science is a few
orders of magnitude behind on that one. Or some catapult. 

-- mrr

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                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-04 15:09 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 18:05 -0400
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                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 20:10 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 21:52 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 22:55 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 04:33 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:10 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:16 -0500
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-04 15:54 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 17:52 -0400
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-04 15:54 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-04 09:22 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:42 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 20:05 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-03 22:03 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:38 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-03 06:17 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 10:01 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 17:20 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 12:02 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 03:44 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-03 20:23 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-03 15:14 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:50 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-03 19:52 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 04:40 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 15:00 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 10:23 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:57 +1000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-04 08:41 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 19:53 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-05 21:14 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-04 09:10 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 17:52 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-05 11:27 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-05 14:52 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 04:04 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-05 22:50 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 08:26 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-04 05:39 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-04 04:37 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-03 10:52 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-04 17:40 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-04 19:04 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-05 12:57 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-05 13:43 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Thomas Johns" <TJzz@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 07:38 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-11 17:24 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-12 11:45 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-12 13:47 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-12 16:50 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 05:04 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 17:32 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-12 17:30 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-12 17:00 -0700
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-13 13:18 -0700
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 17:36 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-14 16:07 +0200
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 12:04 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-14 09:28 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-13 19:47 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-14 11:43 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-14 16:20 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-14 20:35 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-15 09:23 -0400
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-15 12:51 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-15 16:59 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-15 11:59 -0400
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 18:52 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-16 01:45 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-15 22:24 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-16 10:13 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 18:41 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-17 11:09 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-17 10:29 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-20 20:36 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-20 19:48 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-16 09:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-16 13:16 +0200
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-16 13:13 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-16 10:36 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-16 20:18 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-16 20:46 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-17 09:53 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-17 12:07 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-17 08:51 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-17 09:26 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:51 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:44 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 09:44 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 12:43 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 12:41 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-19 18:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-19 12:00 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 01:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 08:38 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-18 16:44 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 16:38 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-18 13:04 -0500
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-18 18:51 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-18 14:03 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:19 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:13 -0500
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-26 11:42 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-26 11:49 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:32 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Jack Brown" <7865jb@nospam.com> - 2016-04-28 06:09 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-18 16:12 -0300
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-18 20:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 20:20 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-19 06:20 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:17 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-18 21:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:11 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 14:47 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2016-04-19 22:06 -0300
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 10:31 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-20 10:55 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 11:15 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-21 08:01 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 12:34 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-20 10:20 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 15:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:24 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-20 15:25 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-20 18:07 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-20 13:07 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-20 11:44 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-20 15:25 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-21 08:19 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-21 15:25 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 17:58 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-21 11:28 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-21 07:11 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-04-20 17:49 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 03:52 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-21 08:11 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-21 17:58 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 12:34 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-21 14:57 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-21 20:20 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-04-22 11:18 -0400
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 11:24 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-21 16:25 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-16 19:42 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:15 +1000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 12:21 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-19 06:03 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:33 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-22 07:11 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 05:31 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-22 15:01 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-23 12:21 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-24 11:21 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-24 12:43 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Bob Martin <bob.martin@excite.com> - 2016-04-25 07:16 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-25 10:10 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-25 15:42 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-25 16:55 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name,invalid> - 2016-04-26 00:05 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 06:14 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-04-26 07:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-26 12:39 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 13:54 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-26 10:18 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-26 16:39 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-26 11:44 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-26 18:15 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-26 22:44 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-27 10:50 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 11:10 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-24 11:39 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-24 07:43 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-24 12:20 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-24 17:01 -0300
                Re: Qbasic Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2016-04-26 21:37 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-04-26 16:37 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-26 22:16 -0500
                Re: Qbasic "Jack Brown" <7865jb@nospam.com> - 2016-04-27 14:18 +1000
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-27 12:39 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 19:32 +0100
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-28 12:06 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-28 13:43 +0100
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-29 12:18 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-29 13:39 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-29 15:19 +0200
                Re: Qbasic scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-04-29 14:27 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-29 09:58 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-29 19:51 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 06:28 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 08:11 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 14:14 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 09:54 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 13:54 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-30 13:46 +1000
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-28 06:11 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 09:02 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-04-29 05:49 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-25 15:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-25 16:55 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-25 23:56 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Gerard Schildberger <gerard46@rrt.net> - 2016-04-22 01:02 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-22 15:22 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-22 11:41 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-04-19 11:21 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-18 13:25 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Mark Storkamp <mstorkamp@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-18 13:45 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-18 15:37 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-19 18:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-19 19:18 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-19 17:04 -0300
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-19 17:52 -0400
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-18 20:17 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:39 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-18 12:25 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-19 06:00 +0100
                Re: Qbasic "3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com> - 2016-04-22 14:22 +1000
                Re: Qbasic Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-04-25 20:49 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-26 11:02 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-26 17:38 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2016-04-26 14:31 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-04-26 21:21 +0000
                Re: Qbasic JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-04-26 18:33 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-26 22:35 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-27 16:19 -0300
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 19:53 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-04-30 15:24 -0300
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:14 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 06:06 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-27 10:59 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-27 11:12 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 14:21 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-27 11:38 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 13:51 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-27 19:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 08:48 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 20:05 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 09:09 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-04-28 22:25 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 13:46 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 20:01 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 20:00 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 22:39 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-27 22:03 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-04-27 19:36 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:30 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-29 19:30 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-30 23:39 +0200
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:23 -0500
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                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-04-27 10:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-27 12:40 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-27 14:24 -0400
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-04-28 12:06 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-27 12:59 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-04-28 08:59 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Clark G <clarkm.geimsler@ieeemmm.org> - 2016-04-28 20:43 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-04-28 19:14 -0400
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-04-29 16:41 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-29 19:30 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-04-29 22:05 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-29 17:20 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-04-30 07:10 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-04-30 01:44 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-04-30 06:25 -0400
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-04-30 23:58 -0400
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:55 +0000
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-01 12:26 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 18:25 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:12 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-02 17:52 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 16:58 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 04:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> - 2016-05-02 22:11 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-03 06:59 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-03 14:34 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 12:37 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-03 19:00 +0000
                Re: Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 17:07 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-05-03 22:49 -0400
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 04:35 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-03 13:43 -0700
                Re: Qbasic "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-05-02 06:02 +1000
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-06 19:13 -0400
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-07 13:14 +0000
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-07 16:27 -0400
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-08 13:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic sidd@situ.com (sidd) - 2016-05-08 20:49 -0400
                Re: Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-09 13:08 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-07 20:29 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-07 16:47 +0000
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-07 20:23 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 12:29 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-04-30 12:43 -0500
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-04-30 19:58 +0100
                Re: Qbasic Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-05-01 06:59 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Lawrence Statton NK1G <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-04-30 15:09 -0500
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:49 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-01 00:06 +0200
                Re: Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-01 04:36 +0100
                Re: Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-01 08:53 +0000
                Re: Qbasic Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-05-01 06:04 -0700
                Re: Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:12 +0000
                Re:AM radio  Qbasic hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-04-30 12:00 -0700
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                Re: AM radio  Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-01 00:15 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-01 12:26 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-01 15:24 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-02 13:13 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-05-02 14:45 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-02 15:51 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-05-02 16:09 -0500
                Re: AM radio Qbasic "Simo" <dhy287@gmail.com> - 2016-05-03 07:40 +1000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-03 18:33 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-03 16:09 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-05-03 13:47 -0700
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:33 +0100
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-05-04 15:11 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-03 11:50 +0000
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-05-03 13:35 +0100
                Re: AM radio  Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-03 18:28 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-03 16:09 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-05-03 16:50 -0500
                Re: AM radio Qbasic jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-05-04 13:02 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:32 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:30 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:27 +0100
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:35 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 06:23 +0100
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-04 17:43 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-04 16:13 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btopenworld.com> - 2016-05-04 22:08 +0100
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-05 19:45 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-05-06 07:22 -0400
                Re: AM radio Qbasic mausg@mail.com - 2016-05-06 15:34 +0000
                Re: AM radio Qbasic Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-05-06 22:50 +0200

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