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the history of Java in Android (was Re: What’s Your Least Favourite Programming Language?)

From Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org>
Newsgroups comp.lang.misc, alt.folklore.computers
Subject the history of Java in Android (was Re: What’s Your Least Favourite Programming Language?)
Date 2026-08-28 20:27 -0300
Organization Primarily biological and memetic
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Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026 16:43:56 -0300, Kragen Javier Sitaker wrote:
>> Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
>>> But J2SE was available in an open-source form, namely OpenJDK. So
>>> they adapted that instead.
>>
>> With respect, I think you may have gotten this wrong. Originally
>> they used Apache Harmony (presumably they preferred its non-copyleft
>> licensing) but switched to OpenJDK in 02016 in response to the
>> Oracle lawsuit
>> <https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/01/android-n-switches-to-openjdk-google-tells-oracle-it-is-protected-by-the-gpl/>
>
> You are mixing up the language implementation with the library
> implementation.

Your statement, “So [the Android team] adapted [OpenJDK] instead [when
they could have chosen J2ME],” is not true of *either* the language
implementation (Dalvik) *or* the library implementation (initially they
adapted Harmony, and many years later they adapted OpenJDK).

Kragen

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the history of Java in Android (was Re: What’s Your Least Favourite Programming Language?) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-28 20:27 -0300
  Re: the history of Java in Android (was Re: What’s Your Least Favourite Programming Language?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-29 01:30 +0000
    Re: the history of Java in Android (was Re: What’s Your Least Favourite Programming Language?) Kragen Javier Sitaker <kragen@canonical.org> - 2026-08-29 15:24 -0300
      Re: the history of Java in Android (was Re: What’s Your Least Favourite Programming Language?) Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-08-29 21:57 +0000

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