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Re: disARMed

From Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: disARMed
Date 2015-12-05 08:42 -0800
Organization Wheeler&Wheeler
Message-ID <878u584zke.fsf@garlic.com> (permalink)
References <n3rsbt$c74$1@dont-email.me> <slrnn65ggf.156d.howard@foxtrot.local> <1971581435.471013501.229083.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org> <n3uv0f$fj2$1@news.albasani.net>

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David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> writes:
> I think thats the approach IBM took with the z Series
> mainframes. There ae various levels of microcode ansd millicode so
> knowing what is actually as basic instruction can be interesting...

there are so few Z series being sold that they are increasingly
leveraging other technologies (with some differentiation layer on top).

z12 processor was 32nm technology ... I had calculated that based on
1qtr2014 sale numbers and straight remap 32nm to 14nm and 300mm to 450mm
wafers ... processor chips for several years of z mainframe sales could
be handled by a single wafer (little over decade ago I had chip done and
minimum wafer run was six wafers, assume that it is still something
similar).

recent posts
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#82 Is there an Inventory of the Installed Mainframe Systems Worldwide
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#31 IBM Z13
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015c.html#36 IBM Z13
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015f.html#83 Miniskirts and mainframes
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015g.html#19 Linux Foundation Launches Open Mainframe Project

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disARMed "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-04 11:13 +0000
  Re: disARMed Bob Eager <news0005@eager.cx> - 2015-12-04 11:52 +0000
  Re: disARMed Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-04 12:11 +0000
  Re: disARMed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-04 14:07 +0000
  Re: disARMed Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-04 13:30 +0100
    Re: disARMed cb@elaine.df.lth.se (Christian Brunschen) - 2015-12-05 16:35 +0000
  Re: disARMed Andrew Swallow <am.swallow@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-04 17:03 +0000
  Re: disARMed Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-04 14:00 -0600
    Re: disARMed "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-05 20:12 +0000
      Re: disARMed Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-07 16:54 -0600
    Re: disARMed Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2015-12-06 13:35 -0600
      Re: disARMed timcaffrey420@gmail.com - 2015-12-06 17:28 -0800
  Re: disARMed Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-12-05 10:53 +0000
    Re: disARMed "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-05 12:07 +0000
      Re: disARMed Howard S Shubs <howard@shubs.net> - 2015-12-07 06:17 +0000
        Re: disARMed "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-07 10:35 +0000
          Re: disARMed Andy Burns <usenet.feb2014@adslpipe.co.uk> - 2015-12-07 12:22 +0000
            Re: disARMed "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-07 12:32 +0000
              Re: disARMed Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-07 18:22 +0000
                Re: disARMed "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-07 18:30 +0000
    Re: disARMed Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-05 08:11 -0500
      Re: disARMed Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-05 14:21 +0000
        Re: disARMed Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-12-05 13:38 -0600
          Re: disARMed Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-05 16:45 -0500
            Re: disARMed "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-05 23:38 +0000
          Re: disARMed Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-05 21:49 +0000
          Re: disARMed Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-12-06 08:01 +0000
            Re: disARMed hda <agent700@ay.invalid> - 2015-12-06 12:16 +0100
              Re: disARMed Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-12-06 16:13 +0000
                Re: disARMed Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-06 20:51 +0100
          Re: disARMed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-07 14:52 +0000
          Re: disARMed Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-12-07 14:33 -0500
            Re: disARMed jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2015-12-08 13:58 +0000
        Re: disARMed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-07 14:49 +0000
      Re: disARMed David Wade <dave.g4ugm@gmail.com> - 2015-12-05 15:14 +0000
        Re: disARMed Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-12-05 08:42 -0800
          Re: disARMed Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-05 17:20 -0800
      Re: disARMed Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2015-12-05 13:35 -0600
        Re: disARMed Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2015-12-06 03:09 -0800
        Re: disARMed Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2015-12-06 12:16 +0100
          Re: disARMed "gareth" <no.spam@thank.you.invalid> - 2015-12-06 13:09 +0000
      Re: disARMed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-07 14:47 +0000
        Re: disARMed "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-07 13:38 -0600
          Re: disARMed Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2015-12-07 16:37 -0600
            Re: disARMed Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2015-12-08 08:00 +0000
            Re: disARMed "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2015-12-08 07:33 -0600
          Re: disARMed scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-12-08 14:23 +0000
          Re: disARMed Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-08 11:55 -0500
            Re: disARMed Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2015-12-08 20:21 +0000
            Re: disARMed "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-08 16:48 -0600

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