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Re: book "1984"--modern privacy

From Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: book "1984"--modern privacy
Date 2015-12-14 07:40 -0800
Organization Wheeler&Wheeler
Message-ID <8761012g3x.fsf@garlic.com> (permalink)
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hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com writes:
> IMHO, the big risk to privacy are the hidden and not so hidden
> databases that may contain derogatory information about us,
> be it accurate or not.  For instance, the newspaper reported
> that doctors have a database about difficult patients, and
> landlords have a database about difficult tenants.
>
> Journalists push for these kinds of things--lack of privacy--
> because it makes their job easier, indeed, helps create
> opportunities.  If a Senator's son misbehaves at college,
> now they can find out about it and report on it, something
> that might have been buried years ago.

just finishing schneier's book: Data and Goliath
http://www.amazon.com/Data-Goliath-Battles-Collect-Control-ebook/dp/B00L3KQ1LI/

he glosses over a number of details like opt-in/opt-out ...  I've posted
before about being somewhat involved in cal. data breach notification
and cal. opt-in legislation ... having been brought in to help word
smith cal. electronic signature legislation ... while they were also
working on the other two pieces. The data-breach notification
legislation passed although since then there has been a number of
federal bills (none yet passed), about evenly divided between those
similar to cal's and those that would effectively eliminate notification
requirement.

Before the opt-in bill passes, a (federal preemption) opt-out addenda
was added to GLBA (now better known for repeal of Glass-Steagall).
Opt-in requires explicit authorization before an organization can share
your personal information, out-out can share your personal information
unless it has record of your objecting (opting-out).

I've posted before about being at a 2004 annual national privacy
conference in Wash DC and in a panel session with all the FTC
commissioners, somebody in the room gets up and asks them if they are
going to do anything about GLBA "opt-out" ... he says he is with a call
center technology company used by all the major financial operations
... and all of their 1-800 "opt-out" services provide no provisions for
keeping a record of a "opt-out" call (and with no "opt-out" record, they
are free to share your personal information).

posts mentioning electronic signature legislation
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/subpubkey.html#signature
posts mentiong data breach notification
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#data.breach.notification
posts mentioning Pecora Hearings &/or Glass-Steagall
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/submisc.html#Pecora&/orGlass-Steagall

recent posts mentioning opt-in/opt-out
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#17 Cromnibus cartoon
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#54 How do we take political considerations into account in the OODA-Loop?
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015.html#55 HealthCare.gov in Cahoots with Dozens of Tracking Websites
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2015h.html#45 rationality

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book "1984"--modern privacy hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2015-12-14 06:57 -0800
  Re: book "1984"--modern privacy Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-14 10:21 -0500
  Re: book "1984"--modern privacy Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2015-12-14 07:40 -0800
  Re: book "1984"--modern privacy Jorgen Grahn <grahn+nntp@snipabacken.se> - 2015-12-19 09:09 +0000
    Re: book "1984"--modern privacy Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-12-19 10:02 -0500
      Re: book "1984"--modern privacy mausg@mail.com - 2015-12-19 16:07 +0000
    Re: book "1984"--modern privacy JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2015-12-19 12:31 -0600
    Re: book "1984"--modern privacy Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2015-12-20 09:25 +0000
    Re: book "1984"--modern privacy "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2015-12-21 14:19 -0600

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