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| From | Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> |
| Newsgroups | alt.folklore.computers |
| Subject | Re: DEBE? |
| Date | Tue, 02 Feb 2021 14:13:29 -1000 |
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Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> writes: > 8. Did anything of LLMPS remain as part of UMMPS? > http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/discussions/anecdotes-comments-observations/8didanythingofllmpsremainaspartofummps > 8.1: Some information about LLMPS > http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/discussions/anecdotes-comments-observations/8-1someinformationaboutllmps this has reference to (later?) LLMPS documentation at bitsavers, dtic, and & mts archive http://archive.michigan-terminal-system.org/documentation topic drift warning ... lots of installations were sold 360/67 for tss/360 ... but got early 360s to work with pending availability of 360/67 with virtual memory. ... however tss/360 never really came to production fruition and lots of 360/67s ran as 360/65 with os/360 ... but some places like UofM and Stanford wrote their own virtual memory operating systems for 360/67. Cambridge Science Center got a 360/40 and added hardware modifications to support virtual memory and developed (virtual machine) CP40/CMS ... when 360/67 became available, CP40/CMS morphs into CP67/CMS (precursor to VM370/CMS). MIT Lincoln Labs got a duplex (two processor) 360/67 for tss/360 ... but became the 1st place (after cambridge) to install cp67. I had taken two semester hr intro to computers/fortran, the univ was running 709 tape->tape with 1401 front end for unit record. At the end of the semester the got a 360/30 replacing the 1401 as part of transition to 360/67 replacing the 709/1401 and I got a job to reimplement 1401 MPIO (somewhat like DEBE) in 360 assembler (although 360/30 could directly run MPIO in 1401 emulation) ... I got to design and implement my own monitor, device drivers, interrupt handlers, error recovery, storage management etc. ... eventually 2000 cards with assembler option for generating stand-alone (w/BPS loader) or under os/360 (DCB macros). Trivia: stand alone version took 30mins to assemble, os/360 version took an hr with each DCB macros taking 5mins each. I was then hired fulltime to be responsible of OS/360 and the 360/67 spent all its time as 360/65 ... univ. shutdown datacenter from 8am sat to 8am mon & I had the place dedicated to myself for 48hrs straight. Last week Jan1968, three people came out from cambridge to install cp67 (1st place after lincoln labs) ... but it was mostly restricted to my playing with it on weekends. -- virtualization experience starting Jan1968, online at home since Mar1970
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