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| First post | 2020-01-17 22:47 -0600 |
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The Road to Nowhere "MK" <Ms.Kitty@home.net> - 2020-01-17 22:47 -0600
Re: The Road to Nowhere mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2020-01-18 01:13 -0500
Re: The Road to Nowhere "Sir Hømer Hall, Esq." <greghall@høme.fake> - 2020-01-18 11:21 -0500
Re: The Road to Nowhere mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> - 2020-01-18 13:07 -0500
Re: The Road to Nowhere Fran <f2r2a3n4@loonynutters.com> - 2020-01-19 11:26 +1100
Re: The Road to Nowhere Graham <j.hutson@chello.nl> - 2020-02-29 00:25 +0100
Re: The Road to Nowhere Raven <raven@invalid.net> - 2020-02-28 18:28 -0500
| From | "MK" <Ms.Kitty@home.net> |
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| Date | 2020-01-17 22:47 -0600 |
| Subject | The Road to Nowhere |
| Message-ID | <crqo6f.fgh.19.1@news.alt.net> |
Bryson City, North Carolina This road in the Great Smoky Mountains was supposed to assuage a displaced community, but ended up a $52 million dead end. The Fontana Dam, rising high above the Little Tennessee River in western North Carolina, is the tallest dam in the eastern United States. It was a long and winding road to getting the dam built, and what was lost during the journey can be seen in the nearby "Road to Nowhere." The Lost Town of Proctor Fontana Dam was built in 1941, on land given over to the Tennessee Valley Authority by the Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA). The United States' entry into World War II meant a huge spike in the demand for aluminum for aircraft, ships, and munitions, so a deal was struck for the TVA to build the dam with ALCOA as the primary consumer. With a readymade customer in the U.S. War Department, the aluminum company stood to benefit from all that hydroelectric power coming in. The people that did not benefit were the flooded-out communities along the banks of the rising water. Where there had previously been small towns, villages, and homesteads along the north side of the river, there was now Fontana Lake, and the people who lived and worked there were either bought out or moved off. To assuage those being displaced, part of the dam deal was to build a road from Bryson City to Deals Gap along a route north of the river. It was intended not only to allow people to make the journey but to provide ongoing access to their ancestral lands and cemeteries. The road was to be cut through the newly created Great Smoky Mountains National Park. The people were moved, the water rose, and by the 1970s-30 years after the original agreement was made-only a small portion of the road was built. This small section, still there today, is about seven miles long and ends abruptly at a quarter-mile tunnel in the park, in the middle of nowhere. The road was never finished due to environmental concerns: someone noticed that snowflakes melted unusually quickly on the newly exposed rock, as well as a strong smell of sulfur. The rock had the potential to turn runoff acidic, threatening wildlife in nearby streams. The only solution was to stop construction. The road sat unfinished for decades, and finally, the U.S. Department of Interior agreed to pay a consolation prize of $52 million to Swain County in lieu of building the road. As of 2016 only $12 million had been paid, and the county filed a lawsuit for the remainder of the promised money. In 2018, the last payment was made in the settlement; the funds are held by the state of North Carolina and Swain County receives interest on the settlement money. As for the road itself, it will remain as it is now: going nowhere. It's no wonder one landowner has maintained a now-iconic sign: "Welcome to the Road to Nowhere-a broken promise! 1943 - ? ?" Reply: Perhaps President Trump should make North Carolina great again, and fufill President Franklin Rosevelt's dead promises? https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-road-to-nowhere-bryson-city-north-carolina
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| From | mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> |
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| Date | 2020-01-18 01:13 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qvu7ls$use$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #76722 |
On 1/17/2020 11:47 PM, MK wrote: > Bryson City, North Carolina > > This road in the Great Smoky Mountains was supposed to assuage a displaced > community, but ended up a $52 million dead end. > > The Fontana Dam, rising high above the Little Tennessee River in western > North Carolina, is the tallest dam in the eastern United States. It was a > long and winding road to getting the dam built, and what was lost during the > journey can be seen in the nearby "Road to Nowhere." > > The Lost Town of Proctor > > Fontana Dam was built in 1941, on land given over to the Tennessee Valley > Authority by the Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA). The United States' > entry into World War II meant a huge spike in the demand for aluminum for > aircraft, ships, and munitions, so a deal was struck for the TVA to build > the dam with ALCOA as the primary consumer. With a readymade customer in the > U.S. War Department, the aluminum company stood to benefit from all that > hydroelectric power coming in. > > The people that did not benefit were the flooded-out communities along the > banks of the rising water. Where there had previously been small towns, > villages, and homesteads along the north side of the river, there was now > Fontana Lake, and the people who lived and worked there were either bought > out or moved off. > > To assuage those being displaced, part of the dam deal was to build a road > from Bryson City to Deals Gap along a route north of the river. It was > intended not only to allow people to make the journey but to provide ongoing > access to their ancestral lands and cemeteries. The road was to be cut > through the newly created Great Smoky Mountains National Park. > > The people were moved, the water rose, and by the 1970s-30 years after the > original agreement was made-only a small portion of the road was built. This > small section, still there today, is about seven miles long and ends > abruptly at a quarter-mile tunnel in the park, in the middle of nowhere. > > The road was never finished due to environmental concerns: someone noticed > that snowflakes melted unusually quickly on the newly exposed rock, as well > as a strong smell of sulfur. The rock had the potential to turn runoff > acidic, threatening wildlife in nearby streams. The only solution was to > stop construction. > > The road sat unfinished for decades, and finally, the U.S. Department of > Interior agreed to pay a consolation prize of $52 million to Swain County in > lieu of building the road. As of 2016 only $12 million had been paid, and > the county filed a lawsuit for the remainder of the promised money. In 2018, > the last payment was made in the settlement; the funds are held by the state > of North Carolina and Swain County receives interest on the settlement > money. > > As for the road itself, it will remain as it is now: going nowhere. It's no > wonder one landowner has maintained a now-iconic sign: > > "Welcome to the Road to Nowhere-a broken promise! 1943 - ? ?" > > Reply: Perhaps President Trump should make North Carolina great again, and > fufill President Franklin Rosevelt's dead promises? > > https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-road-to-nowhere-bryson-city-north-carolina Maybe they should be talking to Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska, a close ally of Russian President Vladimir Putin, who is helping Mr. The President Trump and Senator Moscow Mitch McConnell create thousands of aluminum jobs in America? https://time.com/5651345/rusal-investment-braidy-kentucky/ -- Grizzly H.
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| From | "Sir Hømer Hall, Esq." <greghall@høme.fake> |
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| Date | 2020-01-18 11:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <13c62fdl32bjn93ujgpqaomdol2890g0dl@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76722 |
On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 22:47:31 -0600, "MK" <Ms.Kitty@home.net> wrote: >Bryson City, North Carolina > >This road in the Great Smoky Mountains was supposed to assuage a displaced >community, but ended up a $52 million dead end. > >The Fontana Dam, rising high above the Little Tennessee River in western >North Carolina, is the tallest dam in the eastern United States. It was a >long and winding road to getting the dam built, and what was lost during the >journey can be seen in the nearby "Road to Nowhere." > >The Lost Town of Proctor > >Fontana Dam was built in 1941, on land given over to the Tennessee Valley >Authority by the Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA). The United States' >entry into World War II meant a huge spike in the demand for aluminum for >aircraft, ships, and munitions, so a deal was struck for the TVA to build >the dam with ALCOA as the primary consumer. With a readymade customer in the >U.S. War Department, the aluminum company stood to benefit from all that >hydroelectric power coming in. > >The people that did not benefit were the flooded-out communities along the >banks of the rising water. Where there had previously been small towns, >villages, and homesteads along the north side of the river, there was now >Fontana Lake, and the people who lived and worked there were either bought >out or moved off. > >To assuage those being displaced, part of the dam deal was to build a road >from Bryson City to Deals Gap along a route north of the river. It was >intended not only to allow people to make the journey but to provide ongoing >access to their ancestral lands and cemeteries. The road was to be cut >through the newly created Great Smoky Mountains National Park. > >The people were moved, the water rose, and by the 1970s-30 years after the >original agreement was made-only a small portion of the road was built. This >small section, still there today, is about seven miles long and ends >abruptly at a quarter-mile tunnel in the park, in the middle of nowhere. > >The road was never finished due to environmental concerns: someone noticed >that snowflakes melted unusually quickly on the newly exposed rock, as well >as a strong smell of sulfur. The rock had the potential to turn runoff >acidic, threatening wildlife in nearby streams. The only solution was to >stop construction. > >The road sat unfinished for decades, and finally, the U.S. Department of >Interior agreed to pay a consolation prize of $52 million to Swain County in >lieu of building the road. As of 2016 only $12 million had been paid, and >the county filed a lawsuit for the remainder of the promised money. In 2018, >the last payment was made in the settlement; the funds are held by the state >of North Carolina and Swain County receives interest on the settlement >money. > >As for the road itself, it will remain as it is now: going nowhere. It's no >wonder one landowner has maintained a now-iconic sign: > >"Welcome to the Road to Nowhere-a broken promise! 1943 - ? ?" > >Reply: Perhaps President Trump should make North Carolina great again, and >fufill President Franklin Rosevelt's dead promises? > >https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-road-to-nowhere-bryson-city-north-carolina Interesting, thanks. -- Yours Truly, Sir Gregory Nadegda, kensi, Fran, Pandora » these are easily ignøred misandrists and anti-American, leftist liars.
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| From | mixed nuts <melopsitticus@undulatus.budgie> |
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| Date | 2020-01-18 13:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <qvvhgs$or1$1@gioia.aioe.org> |
| In reply to | #76722 |
On 1/17/2020 11:47 PM, MK wrote: > To assuage those being displaced, part of the dam deal was to build a road > from Bryson City to Deals Gap There's a superhighway between them places now, with motorcycle resorts, campgrounds, fast food joints, and prolly even miniature golf places with hot dog's and ice cream's where people can feel right at home. So, they don't need no damn dirt road winding through the forest where the bears can attack people who get stuck in the mud. -- Grizzly H.
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| From | Fran <f2r2a3n4@loonynutters.com> |
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| Date | 2020-01-19 11:26 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <r007od$4s1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76722 |
On 18/01/2020 3:47 pm, MK wrote: > Bryson City, North Carolina > > This road in the Great Smoky Mountains was supposed to assuage a displaced > community, but ended up a $52 million dead end. > > The Fontana Dam, rising high above the Little Tennessee River in western > North Carolina, is the tallest dam in the eastern United States. It was a > long and winding road to getting the dam built, and what was lost during the > journey can be seen in the nearby "Road to Nowhere." > > The Lost Town of Proctor > > Fontana Dam was built in 1941, on land given over to the Tennessee Valley > Authority by the Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA). The United States' > entry into World War II meant a huge spike in the demand for aluminum for > aircraft, ships, and munitions, so a deal was struck for the TVA to build > the dam with ALCOA as the primary consumer. With a readymade customer in the > U.S. War Department, the aluminum company stood to benefit from all that > hydroelectric power coming in. > > The people that did not benefit were the flooded-out communities along the > banks of the rising water. Where there had previously been small towns, > villages, and homesteads along the north side of the river, there was now > Fontana Lake, and the people who lived and worked there were either bought > out or moved off. > > To assuage those being displaced, part of the dam deal was to build a road > from Bryson City to Deals Gap along a route north of the river. It was > intended not only to allow people to make the journey but to provide ongoing > access to their ancestral lands and cemeteries. The road was to be cut > through the newly created Great Smoky Mountains National Park. > > The people were moved, the water rose, and by the 1970s-30 years after the > original agreement was made-only a small portion of the road was built. This > small section, still there today, is about seven miles long and ends > abruptly at a quarter-mile tunnel in the park, in the middle of nowhere. > > The road was never finished due to environmental concerns: someone noticed > that snowflakes melted unusually quickly on the newly exposed rock, as well > as a strong smell of sulfur. The rock had the potential to turn runoff > acidic, threatening wildlife in nearby streams. The only solution was to > stop construction. > > The road sat unfinished for decades, and finally, the U.S. Department of > Interior agreed to pay a consolation prize of $52 million to Swain County in > lieu of building the road. As of 2016 only $12 million had been paid, and > the county filed a lawsuit for the remainder of the promised money. In 2018, > the last payment was made in the settlement; the funds are held by the state > of North Carolina and Swain County receives interest on the settlement > money. > > As for the road itself, it will remain as it is now: going nowhere. It's no > wonder one landowner has maintained a now-iconic sign: > > "Welcome to the Road to Nowhere-a broken promise! 1943 - ? ?" > > Reply: Perhaps President Trump should make North Carolina great again, and > fufill President Franklin Rosevelt's dead promises? > > https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-road-to-nowhere-bryson-city-north-carolina What an interesting tale. Thank you.
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| From | Graham <j.hutson@chello.nl> |
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| Date | 2020-02-29 00:25 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <hbtls4FaabnU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76722 |
Op 18-1-2020 om 05:47 schreef MK: > Bryson City, North Carolina > > This road in the Great Smoky Mountains was supposed to assuage a displaced > community, but ended up a $52 million dead end. > > The Fontana Dam, rising high above the Little Tennessee River in western > North Carolina, is the tallest dam in the eastern United States. It was a > long and winding road to getting the dam built, and what was lost during the > journey can be seen in the nearby "Road to Nowhere." > > The Lost Town of Proctor > > Fontana Dam was built in 1941, on land given over to the Tennessee Valley > Authority by the Aluminum Company of America (ALCOA). The United States' > entry into World War II meant a huge spike in the demand for aluminum for > aircraft, ships, and munitions, so a deal was struck for the TVA to build > the dam with ALCOA as the primary consumer. With a readymade customer in the > U.S. War Department, the aluminum company stood to benefit from all that > hydroelectric power coming in. > > The people that did not benefit were the flooded-out communities along the > banks of the rising water. Where there had previously been small towns, > villages, and homesteads along the north side of the river, there was now > Fontana Lake, and the people who lived and worked there were either bought > out or moved off. > > To assuage those being displaced, part of the dam deal was to build a road > from Bryson City to Deals Gap along a route north of the river. It was > intended not only to allow people to make the journey but to provide ongoing > access to their ancestral lands and cemeteries. The road was to be cut > through the newly created Great Smoky Mountains National Park. > > The people were moved, the water rose, and by the 1970s-30 years after the > original agreement was made-only a small portion of the road was built. This > small section, still there today, is about seven miles long and ends > abruptly at a quarter-mile tunnel in the park, in the middle of nowhere. > > The road was never finished due to environmental concerns: someone noticed > that snowflakes melted unusually quickly on the newly exposed rock, as well > as a strong smell of sulfur. The rock had the potential to turn runoff > acidic, threatening wildlife in nearby streams. The only solution was to > stop construction. > > The road sat unfinished for decades, and finally, the U.S. Department of > Interior agreed to pay a consolation prize of $52 million to Swain County in > lieu of building the road. As of 2016 only $12 million had been paid, and > the county filed a lawsuit for the remainder of the promised money. In 2018, > the last payment was made in the settlement; the funds are held by the state > of North Carolina and Swain County receives interest on the settlement > money. > > As for the road itself, it will remain as it is now: going nowhere. It's no > wonder one landowner has maintained a now-iconic sign: > > "Welcome to the Road to Nowhere-a broken promise! 1943 - ? ?" > > Reply: Perhaps President Trump should make North Carolina great again, and > fufill President Franklin Rosevelt's dead promises? > > https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/the-road-to-nowhere-bryson-city-north-carolina > > > xxxx
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| From | Raven <raven@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2020-02-28 18:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <_mh6G.145637$b36.16437@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #76729 |
Graham used his keyboard to write : > Op 18-1-2020 om 05:47 schreef MK: >> Bryson City, North Carolina > Nice little choke and puke truck-stop there. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qtRv5oMJdwU
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