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| Started by | joy <jgaylord1@dslextreme.com> |
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| First post | 2018-10-03 15:55 -0700 |
| Last post | 2019-12-22 20:37 -0500 |
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Where is everybody? joy <jgaylord1@dslextreme.com> - 2018-10-03 15:55 -0700
Re: Where is everybody? Gina Man <mangina@davidscrotch.eww> - 2018-10-04 17:13 -0400
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-10-21 18:48 -0700
Re: Where is everybody? Gina Man <mangina@davidscrotch.eww> - 2018-10-22 09:58 -0400
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-10-21 18:50 -0700
Re: Where is everybody? joy <jgaylord1@dslextreme.com> - 2018-10-21 22:19 -0700
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-10-26 11:30 -0700
Re: Where is everybody? joy <gaylord3103@twc.com> - 2018-10-26 15:59 -0700
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-11-04 13:12 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? joy <gaylord3103@twc.com> - 2018-11-04 16:34 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 12:48 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2018-11-05 21:10 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? joy <gaylord3103@twc.com> - 2018-11-05 16:52 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 14:32 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 17:23 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2018-12-14 01:52 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2018-12-18 11:44 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2018-12-22 11:35 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2018-12-26 15:29 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2018-12-27 16:00 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 19:48 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2019-01-03 20:23 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 12:54 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2019-01-08 20:44 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-11 20:03 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-01-12 13:27 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 13:33 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-01-13 15:36 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 18:21 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-01-13 23:14 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 00:17 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-01-14 22:02 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-14 23:49 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-14 21:10 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-01-16 11:29 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 14:01 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-12 14:15 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 21:38 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-14 20:53 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2019-01-12 16:56 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-14 20:59 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-12 13:50 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2019-01-12 23:50 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Woe <woe_is_me@the_bar.room> - 2019-01-13 09:28 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-01-13 15:31 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 18:17 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-14 21:01 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-01-15 12:28 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 14:56 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-15 20:07 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-01-16 11:54 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-13 18:13 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-14 21:06 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-01-15 14:43 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> - 2019-01-15 20:12 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2019-01-17 19:23 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Graham <j.hutson@chello.nl> - 2019-01-20 09:26 +0100
Re: Where is everybody? Graham <j.hutson@chello.nl> - 2019-01-20 09:48 +0100
Re: Where is everybody? joy <gaylord3103@twc.com> - 2018-11-05 16:52 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-11-06 17:25 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? joy <gaylord3103@twc.com> - 2018-11-06 22:01 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-11-10 16:05 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2018-11-11 10:19 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? joy <gaylord3103@twc.com> - 2018-11-12 22:26 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2018-11-23 19:07 -0800
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2018-12-22 11:40 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> - 2019-10-23 20:12 -0700
Re: Where is everybody? Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> - 2019-10-24 10:19 +0100
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2019-12-13 18:30 -0500
Re: Where is everybody? Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> - 2019-12-14 15:30 +0000
Re: Where is everybody? Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> - 2019-12-22 20:37 -0500
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| From | "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-14 20:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ga4t3rFjv6nU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76610 |
Bob Flora wrote: > On 1/11/2019 8:03 PM, Jean B. wrote: >> Bob Flora wrote: >> >>> Finally got over the cold and the nervousness, with the aid of some >>> prescribed tranquilizers that allowed me to get some sleep. >>> >>> Warm (50's) all last week, with a little rain. Now it's going to get >>> cold during Jan and Feb, our coldest months. >> >> Gee, Guys, what are we? Getting older or something? (I am commenting >> on this thread, not just the last comment by Bob.) >> >> I decided to peek in on the groups while I am confined to home because >> of very communicable bacterial conjunctivitis. I am also just >> recovering from the flu and other woes. >> >> I wonder how an inhaler differs from a CPAP machine? (For some reason, >> the discussion seems not to be alluding to a medicine that one breathes >> in, but I'm probably just ignorant.) I wouldn't be able to get to sleep >> without my CPAP machine. >> >> Probably stupid comments, but I wanted to chime in on the only recent >> thread here. > > Well,hello, Jean B. > Haven't heard from you in many years. I see you've had a rough holiday > also. I've been feeling bad since the first week in Dec, just now > feeling half decent. Not getting old, AM old. :-( > > l'm not sure what a CPAP machine is, apparently something you wear to > help you breathe at night. An inhaler is a tube attached to a small > bottle that emits a gas that opens up breathing passages that are > congested from a cold or worse, used intermittently. There is an > emergency inhaler used in extreme cases. Didn't have that problem, it > seemed that oxygen just wasn't getting to the muscles. > > Like you I only checked in here occasionally, because the site is so > seldom used. Just replied to Mick, an old friend who visited us on his > trip to the US in 2001. Guess that dates all of us because I remember > you from about the same time. Cheers! > I am rarely on the groups because I am usually spending my free time volunteering at a local library. I don't know why you and others who are here don't go to alt.sixtyplus. There is more action there (but more to avoid also). Yes, the CPAP machine helps me breathe at night. My throat tends to cloe down the second I start going to sleep, as my muscles relax. My confusion re "inhalers" was because I wasn't sure whether the terminology is different in other countries--or whether there was something by that name that I hadn't heard of. I think it's helpful to feel young. My inner age is 16. In general, I don't go around thinking that I'm old, even as I am about to turn 69. But then there are those glitches....
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| From | Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 13:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <igm_D.58192$mz2.23340@fx23.am4> |
| In reply to | #76602 |
On Tue, 08 Jan 2019 20:44:46 -0500, Bob Flora wrote: > Weather in The UK seems moderate, although there was a lot of snow in > Eastern Europe. There, you had to say it. For the next three days it was bloody cold, although maybe not as cold as Eastern Europe. Back up to 10c this morning though. Positively balmy. > What do you think of Brexit? From here May seems to be having a hard > time getting it done without losing her office. There seems to be > considerable interest in a second vote. No-one talks about Brexit in this country. We just let them get on with it and one day we'll find out whether it was a mistake or not. If/when May goes, I dread to think who will replace her. As for a second vote, if one were to happen and overturn the first one, you can compare the civil unrest that would ensue, albeit in a more measured 'British' way, with that which would follow Mike Pence assuming the mantle of POTUS. Huge swathes of folks would object in the strongest possible way, to their democratic vote being set aside, as it were. -- Mick.
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| From | Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-12 23:50 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <q1eg2c$knj$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76606 |
On 1/12/2019 8:50 AM, Mick wrote: >> What do you think of Brexit? From here May seems to be having a hard >> time getting it done without losing her office. There seems to be >> considerable interest in a second vote. > > No-one talks about Brexit in this country. We just let them get on with > it and one day we'll find out whether it was a mistake or not. If/when > May goes, I dread to think who will replace her. As for a second vote, if > one were to happen and overturn the first one, you can compare the civil > unrest that would ensue, albeit in a more measured 'British' way, with > that which would follow Mike Pence assuming the mantle of POTUS. > > Huge swathes of folks would object in the strongest possible way, to > their democratic vote being set aside, as it were. I've looked all over and can't find a discussion of what happens to UK if Brexit goes through. EU says they won't reopen the deal. Can't imagine UK not trading more or less openly with the EU as it is your major trading partner. From here it looks messy. Add the problems Trump is causing with EU and UK? trade,our government shutdown, and it is all very confusing.
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| From | Woe <woe_is_me@the_bar.room> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 09:28 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <2him3ehef4ld40dbev1o3d3ch4gls72npn@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #76611 |
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 23:50:14 -0500, Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> wrote: >On 1/12/2019 8:50 AM, Mick wrote: > >>> What do you think of Brexit? From here May seems to be having a hard >>> time getting it done without losing her office. There seems to be >>> considerable interest in a second vote. >> >> No-one talks about Brexit in this country. We just let them get on with >> it and one day we'll find out whether it was a mistake or not. If/when >> May goes, I dread to think who will replace her. As for a second vote, if >> one were to happen and overturn the first one, you can compare the civil >> unrest that would ensue, albeit in a more measured 'British' way, with >> that which would follow Mike Pence assuming the mantle of POTUS. >> >> Huge swathes of folks would object in the strongest possible way, to >> their democratic vote being set aside, as it were. > >I've looked all over and can't find a discussion of what happens to UK >if Brexit goes through. EU says they won't reopen the deal. Can't >imagine UK not trading more or less openly with the EU as it is your >major trading partner. From here it looks messy. Add the problems Trump >is causing with EU and UK? trade,our government shutdown, and it is all >very confusing. It is to wonder why so many people who know practically nothing about anything feel compelled to speak up and display their ignorance where there is little or no interest in hearing it??? -- Woe is me!
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| From | Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 15:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <GRI_D.27087$f65.9459@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #76612 |
wotsit Woe sed... > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 23:50:14 -0500, Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> wrote: > >On 1/12/2019 8:50 AM, Mick wrote: > > > >>> What do you think of Brexit? From here May seems to be having a hard > >>> time getting it done without losing her office. There seems to be > >>> considerable interest in a second vote. > >> > >> No-one talks about Brexit in this country. We just let them get on with > >> it and one day we'll find out whether it was a mistake or not. If/when > >> May goes, I dread to think who will replace her. As for a second vote, if > >> one were to happen and overturn the first one, you can compare the civil > >> unrest that would ensue, albeit in a more measured 'British' way, with > >> that which would follow Mike Pence assuming the mantle of POTUS. > >> > >> Huge swathes of folks would object in the strongest possible way, to > >> their democratic vote being set aside, as it were. > > > >I've looked all over and can't find a discussion of what happens to UK > >if Brexit goes through. EU says they won't reopen the deal. Can't > >imagine UK not trading more or less openly with the EU as it is your > >major trading partner. From here it looks messy. Add the problems Trump > >is causing with EU and UK? trade,our government shutdown, and it is all > >very confusing. > > It is to wonder why so many people who know > practically nothing about anything feel compelled > to speak up and display their ignorance where > there is little or no interest in hearing it??? I wanna hear it, I want to hear your opinion too. It's better than looking at a blank screen.
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| From | Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 18:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <GgL_D.32769$AD1.23282@fx05.am4> |
| In reply to | #76612 |
On Sun, 13 Jan 2019 09:28:38 -0500, Woe wrote: > It is to wonder why so many people who know practically nothing about > anything feel compelled to speak up and display their ignorance where > there is little or no interest in hearing it??? But shorely Mr (or Ms) Woe, that's the very reason that the internet was invented. It has no other discernible worthwhile use. And presumably your very presence here proves your own point. -- Mick.
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| From | "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-14 21:01 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ga4t8iFjv6nU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76612 |
Woe wrote: > On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 23:50:14 -0500, Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> wrote: >> On 1/12/2019 8:50 AM, Mick wrote: >> >>>> What do you think of Brexit? From here May seems to be having a hard >>>> time getting it done without losing her office. There seems to be >>>> considerable interest in a second vote. >>> >>> No-one talks about Brexit in this country. We just let them get on with >>> it and one day we'll find out whether it was a mistake or not. If/when >>> May goes, I dread to think who will replace her. As for a second vote, if >>> one were to happen and overturn the first one, you can compare the civil >>> unrest that would ensue, albeit in a more measured 'British' way, with >>> that which would follow Mike Pence assuming the mantle of POTUS. >>> >>> Huge swathes of folks would object in the strongest possible way, to >>> their democratic vote being set aside, as it were. >> >> I've looked all over and can't find a discussion of what happens to UK >> if Brexit goes through. EU says they won't reopen the deal. Can't >> imagine UK not trading more or less openly with the EU as it is your >> major trading partner. From here it looks messy. Add the problems Trump >> is causing with EU and UK? trade,our government shutdown, and it is all >> very confusing. > > It is to wonder why so many people who know > practically nothing about anything feel compelled > to speak up and display their ignorance where > there is little or no interest in hearing it??? > I'm interested. I'd especially like to know what folks from the UK are thinking. From here in the United States, it sounds like a real mess. I'd also be interested in what role, if any, Russian meddling played in creating this mess.
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| From | Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 12:28 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <Olk%D.96961$JW5.75896@fx46.iad> |
| In reply to | #76624 |
wotsit Jean B. sed... > > Woe wrote: > > On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 23:50:14 -0500, Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> wrote: > >> On 1/12/2019 8:50 AM, Mick wrote: > >> > >>>> What do you think of Brexit? From here May seems to be having a hard > >>>> time getting it done without losing her office. There seems to be > >>>> considerable interest in a second vote. > >>> > >>> No-one talks about Brexit in this country. We just let them get on with > >>> it and one day we'll find out whether it was a mistake or not. If/when > >>> May goes, I dread to think who will replace her. As for a second vote, if > >>> one were to happen and overturn the first one, you can compare the civil > >>> unrest that would ensue, albeit in a more measured 'British' way, with > >>> that which would follow Mike Pence assuming the mantle of POTUS. > >>> > >>> Huge swathes of folks would object in the strongest possible way, to > >>> their democratic vote being set aside, as it were. > >> > >> I've looked all over and can't find a discussion of what happens to UK > >> if Brexit goes through. EU says they won't reopen the deal. Can't > >> imagine UK not trading more or less openly with the EU as it is your > >> major trading partner. From here it looks messy. Add the problems Trump > >> is causing with EU and UK? trade,our government shutdown, and it is all > >> very confusing. > > > > It is to wonder why so many people who know > > practically nothing about anything feel compelled > > to speak up and display their ignorance where > > there is little or no interest in hearing it??? > > > I'm interested. I'd especially like to know what folks from the UK are > thinking. From here in the United States, it sounds like a real mess. > I'd also be interested in what role, if any, Russian meddling played in > creating this mess. I'm thinking it's a stitch up. Mrs May, who campaigned for remain in the lead up to the referendum, deliberately negotiated a bad deal with the EU so that parliament would not accept it. So the choice is leave with no deal or remain in the EU. And with most MPs being in the remain camp we will be remaining. So much for democracy. The Russians meddling in other countries affairs is nothing new. What effect it may have had is speculation. It had no effect on how I voted as my mind was made up before the campaigning.
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| From | Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 14:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <wwm%D.106526$Ur2.44475@fx14.am4> |
| In reply to | #76627 |
On Tue, 15 Jan 2019 12:28:28 +0000, Steve wrote: > So much for democracy. You can't blame Teresa, Steve. When Creepy Cameron walked out on his grave misjudgement, not one of the 'Leave' big guns were interested in taking his place. If there was a decent deal to be had, Johnson or Reece Mogg would have been first in the queue for the job, but no. She's the only one with the guts to try to salvage something, anything, from the mess. In essence, she would have been doomed to fail. The last thing Tory Eton boys want is a strong successful woman in charge. It's true that I've been intrigued, all along, why a staunch 'remainer' should be doing the job, but the fact is, that by hiding away at the moment of truth, *they* let her. Democracy? I've heard of that. I'll google it when I have time. ;-) -- Mick.
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| From | "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 20:07 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ga7ef1F6mmaU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76627 |
Steve wrote: > > wotsit Jean B. sed... >> >> Woe wrote: >>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 23:50:14 -0500, Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> wrote: >>>> On 1/12/2019 8:50 AM, Mick wrote: >>>> >>>>>> What do you think of Brexit? From here May seems to be having a hard >>>>>> time getting it done without losing her office. There seems to be >>>>>> considerable interest in a second vote. >>>>> >>>>> No-one talks about Brexit in this country. We just let them get on with >>>>> it and one day we'll find out whether it was a mistake or not. If/when >>>>> May goes, I dread to think who will replace her. As for a second vote, if >>>>> one were to happen and overturn the first one, you can compare the civil >>>>> unrest that would ensue, albeit in a more measured 'British' way, with >>>>> that which would follow Mike Pence assuming the mantle of POTUS. >>>>> >>>>> Huge swathes of folks would object in the strongest possible way, to >>>>> their democratic vote being set aside, as it were. >>>> >>>> I've looked all over and can't find a discussion of what happens to UK >>>> if Brexit goes through. EU says they won't reopen the deal. Can't >>>> imagine UK not trading more or less openly with the EU as it is your >>>> major trading partner. From here it looks messy. Add the problems Trump >>>> is causing with EU and UK? trade,our government shutdown, and it is all >>>> very confusing. >>> >>> It is to wonder why so many people who know >>> practically nothing about anything feel compelled >>> to speak up and display their ignorance where >>> there is little or no interest in hearing it??? >>> >> I'm interested. I'd especially like to know what folks from the UK are >> thinking. From here in the United States, it sounds like a real mess. >> I'd also be interested in what role, if any, Russian meddling played in >> creating this mess. > > I'm thinking it's a stitch up. Mrs May, who campaigned for remain > in the lead up to the referendum, deliberately negotiated a bad > deal with the EU so that parliament would not accept it. So the > choice is leave with no deal or remain in the EU. And with most > MPs being in the remain camp we will be remaining. > So much for democracy. > The Russians meddling in other countries affairs is nothing new. > What effect it may have had is speculation. It had no effect on > how I voted as my mind was made up before the campaigning. > First, mea culpa. Shoulda said Great Britain, not the UK. From this side of the pond, I just don't see Theresa May doing that. And how can the British stay in the EU without another referendum? I am wondering how Theresa May can remain as PM. But who would want the job when it involves negotiating the exit... or having another referendum? It seems like a thankless task.
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| From | Steve <steve-usenet-posts@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-16 11:54 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <dYE%D.10276$q54.3494@fx15.iad> |
| In reply to | #76630 |
wotsit Jean B. sed... > > Steve wrote: > > > > wotsit Jean B. sed... > >> > >> Woe wrote: > >>> On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 23:50:14 -0500, Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> wrote: > >>>> On 1/12/2019 8:50 AM, Mick wrote: > >>>> > >>>>>> What do you think of Brexit? From here May seems to be having a hard > >>>>>> time getting it done without losing her office. There seems to be > >>>>>> considerable interest in a second vote. > >>>>> > >>>>> No-one talks about Brexit in this country. We just let them get on with > >>>>> it and one day we'll find out whether it was a mistake or not. If/when > >>>>> May goes, I dread to think who will replace her. As for a second vote, if > >>>>> one were to happen and overturn the first one, you can compare the civil > >>>>> unrest that would ensue, albeit in a more measured 'British' way, with > >>>>> that which would follow Mike Pence assuming the mantle of POTUS. > >>>>> > >>>>> Huge swathes of folks would object in the strongest possible way, to > >>>>> their democratic vote being set aside, as it were. > >>>> > >>>> I've looked all over and can't find a discussion of what happens to UK > >>>> if Brexit goes through. EU says they won't reopen the deal. Can't > >>>> imagine UK not trading more or less openly with the EU as it is your > >>>> major trading partner. From here it looks messy. Add the problems Trump > >>>> is causing with EU and UK? trade,our government shutdown, and it is all > >>>> very confusing. > >>> > >>> It is to wonder why so many people who know > >>> practically nothing about anything feel compelled > >>> to speak up and display their ignorance where > >>> there is little or no interest in hearing it??? > >>> > >> I'm interested. I'd especially like to know what folks from the UK are > >> thinking. From here in the United States, it sounds like a real mess. > >> I'd also be interested in what role, if any, Russian meddling played in > >> creating this mess. > > > > I'm thinking it's a stitch up. Mrs May, who campaigned for remain > > in the lead up to the referendum, deliberately negotiated a bad > > deal with the EU so that parliament would not accept it. So the > > choice is leave with no deal or remain in the EU. And with most > > MPs being in the remain camp we will be remaining. > > So much for democracy. > > The Russians meddling in other countries affairs is nothing new. > > What effect it may have had is speculation. It had no effect on > > how I voted as my mind was made up before the campaigning. > > > First, mea culpa. Shoulda said Great Britain, not the UK. You got it right the first time. The UK is GB *and* Northern Ireland. > > From this side of the pond, I just don't see Theresa May doing that. > And how can the British stay in the EU without another referendum? I don't know. No-one does. I just have the feeling that those in charge are going through the motions for appearances' sake. > I am wondering how Theresa May can remain as PM. But who would want the > job when it involves negotiating the exit... or having another > referendum? It seems like a thankless task. It's not been handled well at all. She should have negotiated a clean break, instead she tried for half in half out which has resulted in an utter mess that prolly no-one can fix.
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| From | Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-13 18:13 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <1dL_D.32768$AD1.20710@fx05.am4> |
| In reply to | #76611 |
On Sat, 12 Jan 2019 23:50:14 -0500, Bob Flora wrote: > I've looked all over and can't find a discussion of what happens to UK if > Brexit goes through. EU says they won't reopen the deal. Can't imagine > UK not trading more or less openly with the EU as it is your major > trading partner. From here it looks messy. I have no idea what the deal that is on the table amounts to. No-one seems interested in telling us, the plebs in the street, what's involved, other than banging on about the Irish border. Personally, I'd imagine that if the deal is agreed by Parliament, we will leave the EU and few people will notice the difference. Without the deal, everyone will notice the difference for a while but within say, three or four years, everything will be hammered out properly and life will go on. But I could be wrong. > Add the problems Trump is > causing with EU and UK? trade,our government shutdown, and it is all > very confusing. I find the whole Trump/shutdown thing highly entertaining, but then since our media stays well away from it, my only sources are late night talk shows viewed on Youtube a day or so later. Stephen Colbert, Trevor Noah and Seth Myers. The Holy Trinity of humour. ;-) -- Mick.
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| From | "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-14 21:06 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ga4thtFk1pnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76615 |
Mick wrote: > I have no idea what the deal that is on the table amounts to. No-one > seems interested in telling us, the plebs in the street, what's > involved, other than banging on about the Irish border. Personally, > I'd imagine that if the deal is agreed by Parliament, we will leave > the EU and few people will notice the difference. Without the deal, > everyone will notice the difference for a while but within say, three > or four years, everything will be hammered out properly and life will > go on. > > But I could be wrong. I have been away from home for a while. I assume the vote is still being held tomorrow (actually today, there). I hope you are right about the ramifications. > ... > I find the whole Trump/shutdown thing highly entertaining, but then > since our media stays well away from it, my only sources are late > night talk shows viewed on Youtube a day or so later. Stephen > Colbert, Trevor Noah and Seth Myers. The Holy Trinity of humour. ;-) Interesting. I see talk of such things at the very front of my BBC home page. I wonder if that is somehow geared toward me, given that I am in the United States. It must be, because I sometimes wonder why the goings on in this country are so prominent!
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| From | Mick <mick.fanner@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 14:43 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <ckm%D.106525$Ur2.68982@fx14.am4> |
| In reply to | #76625 |
On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:06:55 -0500, Jean B. wrote: > Interesting. I see talk of such things at the very front of my BBC home > page. I wonder if that is somehow geared toward me, given that I am in > the United States. It must be, because I sometimes wonder why the > goings on in this country are so prominent! > Must be a USA-centric home page. We do get mention of the Trump goings on, but nothing compared with what is on US news channels on Youtube. As fiction, the whole sordid saga would be riveting, but as true life happenings, it's head shakingly sad. Whatever, I have to get my daily fix from over there. Takes my mind off of Brexit. -- Mick.
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| From | "Jean B." <jbxyz@rcn.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-15 20:12 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <ga7eo3F6og6U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76628 |
Mick wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:06:55 -0500, Jean B. wrote: > >> Interesting. I see talk of such things at the very front of my BBC home >> page. I wonder if that is somehow geared toward me, given that I am in >> the United States. It must be, because I sometimes wonder why the >> goings on in this country are so prominent! >> > > Must be a USA-centric home page. We do get mention of the Trump goings > on, but nothing compared with what is on US news channels on Youtube. > > As fiction, the whole sordid saga would be riveting, but as true life > happenings, it's head shakingly sad. Whatever, I have to get my daily > fix from over there. Takes my mind off of Brexit. > Nods. Yes, I feel the same way when I read about what's going on over there. What's going on in the United States hits too close to home. The Brexit mess, while extremely important, isn't as gut-wrenching for me. BTW, ALL of the top stories on my BBC homepage are about the Brexit vote.
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| From | Bob Flora <florab@roadrunner.com> |
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| Date | 2019-01-17 19:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <q1r6ai$tdm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #76628 |
On 1/15/2019 9:43 AM, Mick wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:06:55 -0500, Jean B. wrote: > >> Interesting. I see talk of such things at the very front of my BBC home >> page. I wonder if that is somehow geared toward me, given that I am in >> the United States. It must be, because I sometimes wonder why the >> goings on in this country are so prominent! >> > > Must be a USA-centric home page. We do get mention of the Trump goings > on, but nothing compared with what is on US news channels on Youtube. It is. We have a BBC America channel that gives us interesting news about the us and the UK. On 24/7 and very interesting to watch. > > As fiction, the whole sordid saga would be riveting, but as true life > happenings, it's head shakingly sad. Whatever, I have to get my daily > fix from over there. Takes my mind off of Brexit. Even watching reasonably decent coverage of the Brexit issue, there doesn't seem to be a viable idea what to do, despite the massive failure of May's plan. As she said, the opposition has no plan at all. About as bad as the US stalemate over Trump's "Wall," which a majority of Americans do not want.
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| From | Graham <j.hutson@chello.nl> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 09:26 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <gaiplvFlg4lU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76634 |
On 18-1-2019 01:23, Bob Flora wrote: > On 1/15/2019 9:43 AM, Mick wrote: >> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:06:55 -0500, Jean B. wrote: >> >>> Interesting. I see talk of such things at the very front of my BBC home >>> page. I wonder if that is somehow geared toward me, given that I am in >>> the United States. It must be, because I sometimes wonder why the >>> goings on in this country are so prominent! >>> >> >> Must be a USA-centric home page. We do get mention of the Trump goings >> on, but nothing compared with what is on US news channels on Youtube. > > It is. We have a BBC America channel that gives us interesting news > about the us and the UK. On 24/7 and very interesting to watch. >> >> As fiction, the whole sordid saga would be riveting, but as true life >> happenings, it's head shakingly sad. Whatever, I have to get my daily >> fix from over there. Takes my mind off of Brexit. > > Even watching reasonably decent coverage of the Brexit issue, there > doesn't seem to be a viable idea what to do, despite the massive failure > of May's plan. As she said, the opposition has no plan at all. About as > bad as the US stalemate over Trump's "Wall," which a majority of > Americans do not want. > > I live in the Netherlands and now have Dutch nationality, though I was born British, and served in the Royal Navy, I receive a small pension from my British Naval service. I get it cos of a European community deal, don't ask me to explain it, that's what it says on the contract I received when I retired 4 years ago. I mailed them last year asking what would happen now Britain was leaving the EC. They finally replied in one sentence, 'Thank you for you email dated 27th July 2018 You would still be entitled to your UK state pension.' I am guessing like everybody else in Britain they didn't have a clue what will happen. I am guessing by no deal they ain't going to pay a foreigner a pension. Thank god I took Dutch nationality 16 years ago or I could be up shit creek without a paddle ;-)
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| From | Graham <j.hutson@chello.nl> |
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| Date | 2019-01-20 09:48 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <gaiqvbFlqm7U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #76635 |
On 20-1-2019 09:26, Graham wrote: > On 18-1-2019 01:23, Bob Flora wrote: >> On 1/15/2019 9:43 AM, Mick wrote: >>> On Mon, 14 Jan 2019 21:06:55 -0500, Jean B. wrote: >>> >>>> Interesting. I see talk of such things at the very front of my BBC >>>> home >>>> page. I wonder if that is somehow geared toward me, given that I am in >>>> the United States. It must be, because I sometimes wonder why the >>>> goings on in this country are so prominent! >>>> >>> >>> Must be a USA-centric home page. We do get mention of the Trump goings >>> on, but nothing compared with what is on US news channels on Youtube. >> >> It is. We have a BBC America channel that gives us interesting news >> about the us and the UK. On 24/7 and very interesting to watch. >>> >>> As fiction, the whole sordid saga would be riveting, but as true life >>> happenings, it's head shakingly sad. Whatever, I have to get my daily >>> fix from over there. Takes my mind off of Brexit. >> >> Even watching reasonably decent coverage of the Brexit issue, there >> doesn't seem to be a viable idea what to do, despite the massive >> failure of May's plan. As she said, the opposition has no plan at all. >> About as bad as the US stalemate over Trump's "Wall," which a majority >> of Americans do not want. >> >> > I live in the Netherlands and now have Dutch nationality, though I was > born British, and served in the Royal Navy, I receive a small pension > from my British Naval service. I get it cos of a European community > deal, don't ask me to explain it, that's what it says on the contract I > received when I retired 4 years ago. I mailed them last year asking what > would happen now Britain was leaving the EC. They finally replied in one > sentence, > 'Thank you for you email dated 27th July 2018 You would still be > entitled to your UK state pension.' > I am guessing like everybody else in Britain they didn't have a clue > what will happen. I am guessing by no deal they ain't going to pay a > foreigner a pension. Thank god I took Dutch nationality 16 years ago or > I could be up shit creek without a paddle ;-) BTW I wish they would hurry up and make up their minds, so I can get a visa in time to visit my 93 year old mother in the spring, don't look like a terrorist do I?
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| From | joy <gaylord3103@twc.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-05 16:52 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <4B5ED.817765$LK2.313505@fx36.iad> |
| In reply to | #76526 |
On 11/5/2018 12:48 PM, Sue in Ok wrote: > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 6:34:44 PM UTC-6, joy wrote: >> On 11/4/2018 1:12 PM, Sue in Ok wrote: >>> On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 5:59:31 PM UTC-5, joy wrote: >>>> On 10/26/2018 11:30 AM, Sue in Ok wrote: >>>>> On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 12:19:10 AM UTC-5, joy wrote: >>>>>> On 10/21/2018 6:50 PM, Sue in Ok wrote: >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 5:55:51 PM UTC-5, joy wrote: >>>>>>>> I haven't seen any posts here for a couple of days. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Joy! Not much new to report-been reading about those folks that are trying to get to USA thru Mexico...it could mess up my husband's trip to Mexico if Trump has to close the border...hope it does not come to that...how are you? Have you heard from Dalin lately? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi Sue! No, I haven't heard from Dalin in a while. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm okay. I've been having internet problems for a couple of weeks. I >>>>>> switched providers and now I'm having a problem getting everything set >>>>>> up so I can access my new email through Thunderbird. I'll get it >>>>>> figured out eventually, I'm sure. >>>>> >>>>> I am enjoying the fall weather/cooler temps :) Hope you are having better luck with your computer,ect... >>>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks. I think it's all straightened out now. >>>> >>>> The weather here is in the low 80's. It's supposed to warm up over the >>>> next few days. Summer in Southern California just doesn't know when to >>>> quit. ;-) >>> >>> till loving fall weather- also wanted to wish a Happy Birthday to all having one in November! : < ) >>> >> >> Thank you. Thank you for my aunt, too. She'll be 99 in a couple of weeks. > > I'd share my age but why give these poor bored spammers a break? lol!!! I don't read their negative posts as just the titles are whacked! ;) I am so glad us ladies were brought up better and KNOW better ;) > Very true. I use "Create Filter from Message", so I never see the headers more than once.
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| From | Sue in Ok <31josiah814ds7@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2018-11-06 17:25 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <821df407-ecd9-45ec-a131-f13e54600ec4@googlegroups.com> |
| In reply to | #76530 |
On Monday, November 5, 2018 at 6:52:17 PM UTC-6, joy wrote: > On 11/5/2018 12:48 PM, Sue in Ok wrote: > > On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 6:34:44 PM UTC-6, joy wrote: > >> On 11/4/2018 1:12 PM, Sue in Ok wrote: > >>> On Friday, October 26, 2018 at 5:59:31 PM UTC-5, joy wrote: > >>>> On 10/26/2018 11:30 AM, Sue in Ok wrote: > >>>>> On Monday, October 22, 2018 at 12:19:10 AM UTC-5, joy wrote: > >>>>>> On 10/21/2018 6:50 PM, Sue in Ok wrote: > >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 3, 2018 at 5:55:51 PM UTC-5, joy wrote: > >>>>>>>> I haven't seen any posts here for a couple of days. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Hi Joy! Not much new to report-been reading about those folks that are trying to get to USA thru Mexico...it could mess up my husband's trip to Mexico if Trump has to close the border...hope it does not come to that...how are you? Have you heard from Dalin lately? > >>>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Hi Sue! No, I haven't heard from Dalin in a while. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> I'm okay. I've been having internet problems for a couple of weeks. I > >>>>>> switched providers and now I'm having a problem getting everything set > >>>>>> up so I can access my new email through Thunderbird. I'll get it > >>>>>> figured out eventually, I'm sure. > >>>>> > >>>>> I am enjoying the fall weather/cooler temps :) Hope you are having better luck with your computer,ect... > >>>>> > >>>> > >>>> Thanks. I think it's all straightened out now. > >>>> > >>>> The weather here is in the low 80's. It's supposed to warm up over the > >>>> next few days. Summer in Southern California just doesn't know when to > >>>> quit. ;-) > >>> > >>> till loving fall weather- also wanted to wish a Happy Birthday to all having one in November! : < ) > >>> > >> > >> Thank you. Thank you for my aunt, too. She'll be 99 in a couple of weeks. > > > > I'd share my age but why give these poor bored spammers a break? lol!!! I don't read their negative posts as just the titles are whacked! ;) I am so glad us ladies were brought up better and KNOW better ;) > > > > Very true. I use "Create Filter from Message", so I never see the > headers more than once. Hi Joy! I voted today-did not even have to wait in line-it was that easy and quick! now am waiting for results....
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