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  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-02-25 15:53 +0000
    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-02-26 07:23 -0500
      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-02-28 12:54 +0000
        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-01 09:27 -0500
          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-02 09:30 -0500
            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-04 21:21 +0000
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-04 18:52 -0500
                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Moron-a-lago <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 20:42 -0500
                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-06 15:11 +0000
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-06 20:41 +0000
                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-07 07:39 -0500
                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-07 13:18 +0000
                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-07 14:36 +0000
                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-07 14:43 +0000
                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-08 12:40 +0000
                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-08 08:45 -0500
                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Earl Weber <duke@cox.net> - 2025-03-08 10:40 -0800
                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-08 22:59 +0000
                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-09 09:36 -0400
                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-09 13:54 +0000
                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-09 14:00 +0000
                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-09 10:41 -0400
                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-09 17:58 +0000
                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-09 08:45 -0700
                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 J Carlson <j_carlson@gmx.com> - 2025-03-10 08:29 -0700
                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-10 19:59 +0000
                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-03-11 00:46 +0000
                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-11 07:08 -0400
                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-11 04:19 -0700
                                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-11 13:10 +0000
                                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-13 11:53 +0000
                                                  Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-13 12:31 +0000
                                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-13 12:57 +0000
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 super70s <super70s@super70s.invalid> - 2025-03-14 01:52 -0500
                                                    Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-14 07:22 -0400
                                                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-15 09:35 -0400
                                                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-15 14:44 +0000
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-03-15 08:22 -0700
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-03-15 13:33 -0400
                                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-03-16 01:41 +0000
                                                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 John Smyth <smythlejon2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-16 02:29 +0000
                                                          Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-16 09:04 -0400
                                                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-16 14:32 +0000
                                                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-17 06:58 -0400
                                                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2025-03-17 14:50 +0000
                                                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Kurt Lochner <baron.von.mind@gmail.com> - 2025-03-17 08:43 -0700
                                Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-09 09:37 -0400
                            Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-08 08:44 -0500
                              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Pipewrench Peterson <pp@ua.org> - 2025-03-08 10:38 -0800
                        Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> - 2025-03-08 08:43 -0500
                      Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Scout <pothead@snakebite.com> - 2025-03-07 10:04 -0800
              Re: Car Prices Up $3,000 Moron-a-lago <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-03-04 20:41 -0500

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#2901356 — Re: Car Prices Up $3,000

>>>>>>>>> | The Mood of the American Consumer is Souring

>>>>>> | For CEOs and Bankers, the Trump Euphoria Is Fading Fast

 | 
 | ... how Americans view the economy.
 | 
 | -Just 20% view it as excellent or good. Worse than at any
 | pt during Trump's 1st term.
 | 
 | -"Yikes": 59% say the economy is getting worse... Worse
 | than at any pre-covid pt during Trump's 1st term.
 | 
 | Danger territory.
 | 
<https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1894036838844617090>

    --bks

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#2901730

On Tue, 25 Feb 2025 15:53:01 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>> | The Mood of the American Consumer is Souring
>
>>>>>>> | For CEOs and Bankers, the Trump Euphoria Is Fading Fast
>
> | 
> | ... how Americans view the economy.
> | 
> | -Just 20% view it as excellent or good. Worse than at any
> | pt during Trump's 1st term.
> | 
> | -"Yikes": 59% say the economy is getting worse... Worse
> | than at any pre-covid pt during Trump's 1st term.
> | 
> | Danger territory.
> | 
><https://x.com/ForecasterEnten/status/1894036838844617090>
>
>    --bks

Laughter.  We're still in Biden's economy dummy.

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#2902738

>>>>>>>>>>> | The Mood of the American Consumer is Souring

 | ... 
 | The misplaced expectation among Trump's supporters that he
 | will bring down prices (a virtual impossibility in the
 | absence of a depression) is politically problematic by
 | itself. The greater downside risk, however, is that prices
 | could rise even further thanks to Trump's widespread use of
 | tariffs. It's unlikely that such a scenario could cost
 | Republicans the Senate, but it could mean greater losses in
 | the House, which would render Trump the lamest of ducks in
 | 2027 and 2028.
 | ...
<https://e.customeriomail.com/deliveries/dgSQzggDAJaKBZWKBQGVSXo2ny09A1IMfGYpWe4=>

    --bks

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#2903153

On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:54:14 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Mood of the American Consumer is Souring
>
> | ... 
> | The misplaced expectation among Trump's supporters that he
> | will bring down prices (a virtual impossibility in the
> | absence of a depression) is politically problematic by
> | itself. The greater downside risk, however, is that prices
> | could rise even further thanks to Trump's widespread use of
> | tariffs. It's unlikely that such a scenario could cost
> | Republicans the Senate, but it could mean greater losses in
> | the House, which would render Trump the lamest of ducks in
> | 2027 and 2028.
> | ...
><https://e.customeriomail.com/deliveries/dgSQzggDAJaKBZWKBQGVSXo2ny09A1IMfGYpWe4=>
>
>    --bks

So first they say it's impossible and then promptly complain about
that fact.

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#2903468

On Sat, 01 Mar 2025 09:27:44 -0500, NoBody <NoBody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 28 Feb 2025 12:54:14 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
>Sherman) wrote:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Mood of the American Consumer is Souring
>>
>> | ... 
>> | The misplaced expectation among Trump's supporters that he
>> | will bring down prices (a virtual impossibility in the
>> | absence of a depression) is politically problematic by
>> | itself. The greater downside risk, however, is that prices
>> | could rise even further thanks to Trump's widespread use of
>> | tariffs. It's unlikely that such a scenario could cost
>> | Republicans the Senate, but it could mean greater losses in
>> | the House, which would render Trump the lamest of ducks in
>> | 2027 and 2028.
>> | ...
>><https://e.customeriomail.com/deliveries/dgSQzggDAJaKBZWKBQGVSXo2ny09A1IMfGYpWe4=>
>>
>>    --bks
>
>So first they say it's impossible and then promptly complain about
>that fact.

And Bradley has run away.

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#2904402

>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Mood of the American Consumer is Souring

>>> | The misplaced expectation among Trump's supporters that he
>>> | will bring down prices (a virtual impossibility in the
>>> | absence of a depression) is politically problematic by
>>> | itself. The greater downside risk, however, is that prices
>>> | could rise even further thanks to Trump's widespread use of
>>> | tariffs. It's unlikely that such a scenario could cost
>>> | Republicans the Senate, but it could mean greater losses in
>>> | the House, which would render Trump the lamest of ducks in
>>> | 2027 and 2028.

 | 
 | Trump Takes the Dumbest Tariff Plunge
 | 
 | He says the 25% levies on Mexico and Canada will begin
 | Tuesday. Stocks fall.
 | ...
<https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-takes-the-dumbest-tariff-plunge-5da57946>

    --bks

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#2904440

Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Mood of the American Consumer is Souring
>
>>>> | The misplaced expectation among Trump's supporters that he
>>>> | will bring down prices (a virtual impossibility in the
>>>> | absence of a depression) is politically problematic by
>>>> | itself. The greater downside risk, however, is that prices
>>>> | could rise even further thanks to Trump's widespread use of
>>>> | tariffs. It's unlikely that such a scenario could cost
>>>> | Republicans the Senate, but it could mean greater losses in
>>>> | the House, which would render Trump the lamest of ducks in
>>>> | 2027 and 2028.
>
> | Trump Takes the Dumbest Tariff Plunge
> | 
> | He says the 25% levies on Mexico and Canada will begin
> | Tuesday. Stocks fall.
> | ...
> <https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-takes-the-dumbest-tariff-plunge-5da57946>

Collapse the economy, hoover up the leftovers, cut taxes for the
hooverers.

-- 
You cannot use your friends and have them too.

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#2904480

On Tue, 4 Mar 2025 18:52:47 -0500, Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> wrote:

>Bradley K. Sherman wrote this post while blinking in Morse code:
>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> | The Mood of the American Consumer is Souring
>>
>>>>> | The misplaced expectation among Trump's supporters that he
>>>>> | will bring down prices (a virtual impossibility in the
>>>>> | absence of a depression) is politically problematic by
>>>>> | itself. The greater downside risk, however, is that prices
>>>>> | could rise even further thanks to Trump's widespread use of
>>>>> | tariffs. It's unlikely that such a scenario could cost
>>>>> | Republicans the Senate, but it could mean greater losses in
>>>>> | the House, which would render Trump the lamest of ducks in
>>>>> | 2027 and 2028.
>>
>> | Trump Takes the Dumbest Tariff Plunge
>> | 
>> | He says the 25% levies on Mexico and Canada will begin
>> | Tuesday. Stocks fall.
>> | ...
>> <https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-takes-the-dumbest-tariff-plunge-5da57946>
>
>Collapse the economy, hoover up the leftovers, cut taxes for the
>hooverers.

<BUUUUURPPPP>

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#2905078

Flip-flop, flip-flop:
 | 
 | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
 | Continue
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/05/us/politics/trump-lutnick-tariffs-reduction-canada-mexico.html>

    --bks

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#2905156

>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>> | Continue

Flip-flop, flip-flop:
 | 
 | President Donald Trump on Thursday postponed 25% tariffs on
 | many imports from Mexico and some imports from Canada for a
 | month amid widespread fears of the economic fallout from a
 | broader trade war.
 | ...
<https://apnews.com/article/tariffs-trump-economy-mexico-canada-bfed103a11a2a71d8353350f94c78814>

    --bks

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#2905430

On Thu, 6 Mar 2025 15:11:59 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>Flip-flop, flip-flop:
> | 
> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
> | Continue
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/05/us/politics/trump-lutnick-tariffs-reduction-canada-mexico.html>
>
>    --bks

Would you and the NYT make up your minds already???

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#2905448

>>Flip-flop, flip-flop:
>> | 
>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>> | Continue

 | 
 | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'
 | 
 | The President invokes a law that doesn't give him power to
 | impose sweeping tariffs. Someone should sue.
 | ...
<https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-emergency-power-ieepa-trade-mexico-canada-33e2739a>

    --bks

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#2905488

bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) wrote in
news:vqero2$g9k$3@reader1.panix.com: 

>>>Flip-flop, flip-flop:
>>> | 
>>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>>> | Continue
> 
> | 
> | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'
> | 
> | The President invokes a law that doesn't give him power to
> | impose sweeping tariffs. Someone should sue.
> | ...
> <https://www.wsj.com/opinion/donald-trump-tariffs-emergency-power-ieepa
> -trade-mexico-canada-33e2739a> 
> 
>     --bks
> 


    And that is from the Fox News-owned WSJ, no less.....

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#2905494

>>>>Flip-flop, flip-flop:
>>>> | 
>>>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>>>> | Continue

>> | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'

 | 
 | Tariff War Risks Sinking World Into New Great Depression,
 | International Chamber of Commerce Warns
 | 
 | The world economy could face a crash similar to the Great
 | Depression of the 1930s
 | ...
<https://www.wsj.com/economy/trade/tariff-war-risks-sinking-world-into-new-great-depression-235fffeb>

    --bks

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#2905773

>>>>>Flip-flop, flip-flop:
>>>>> | 
>>>>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>>>>> | Continue

>>> | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'

> | Tariff War Risks Sinking World Into New Great Depression,
> | International Chamber of Commerce Warns

 | 
 | The Trump Depression
 | 
 | Donald Trump is on track to be the first president to
 | deliberately engineer a severe depression.
 | ... 
<https://prospect.org/economy/2025-03-05-trump-depression/>

    --bks

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#2905789

On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 12:40:02 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>Flip-flop, flip-flop:
>>>>>> | 
>>>>>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>>>>>> | Continue
>
>>>> | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'
>
>> | Tariff War Risks Sinking World Into New Great Depression,
>> | International Chamber of Commerce Warns
>
> | 
> | The Trump Depression
> | 
> | Donald Trump is on track to be the first president to
> | deliberately engineer a severe depression.
> | ... 
><https://prospect.org/economy/2025-03-05-trump-depression/>
>
>    --bks

Biden doubles the cost of everything but "Trump!"

Laughter.

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#2905837

On 3/8/2025 5:45 AM, NoBody wrote:
> On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 12:40:02 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
> Sherman) wrote:
> 
>>>>>>> Flip-flop, flip-flop:
>>>>>>> |
>>>>>>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>>>>>>> | Continue
>>
>>>>> | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'
>>
>>> | Tariff War Risks Sinking World Into New Great Depression,
>>> | International Chamber of Commerce Warns
>>
>> |
>> | The Trump Depression
>> |
>> | Donald Trump is on track to be the first president to
>> | deliberately engineer a severe depression.
>> | ...
>> <https://prospect.org/economy/2025-03-05-trump-depression/>
>>
>>     --bks
> 
> Biden doubles the cost of everything

Cite.

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#2905906

>>>>>>>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>>>>>>>> | Continue

>>>>>> | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'

>>>> | Tariff War Risks Sinking World Into New Great Depression,
>>>> | International Chamber of Commerce Warns

>>> | The Trump Depression

Flip-flop, flip-flop:
 | 
 | After drops in the stock market, outcry from the Big Three
 | automakers in the U.S. and a conversation with Mexico's
 | president, President Trump again reversed himself and is
 | delaying tariffs against Mexico and Canada.
 | 
 | It was just the latest chapter in a chaotic rollout of one
 | of Trump's favorite economic tools, one that economists
 | broadly say will lead to higher prices. Many tariffs on
 | lots of goods are still in place, and the delay on the rest
 | only extends until April 2, leaving companies and consumers
 | unsure of what to expect, sometimes hour to hour.
 | ...
<https://www.npr.org/2025/03/07/nx-s1-5320159/trump-week-tariffs-mexico-canada-doge>

    --bks

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#2906074

On Sat, 8 Mar 2025 22:59:57 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>>>>>>>>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>>>>>>>>> | Continue
>
>>>>>>> | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'
>
>>>>> | Tariff War Risks Sinking World Into New Great Depression,
>>>>> | International Chamber of Commerce Warns
>
>>>> | The Trump Depression
>
>Flip-flop, flip-flop:
> | 
> | After drops in the stock market, outcry from the Big Three
> | automakers in the U.S. and a conversation with Mexico's
> | president, President Trump again reversed himself and is
> | delaying tariffs against Mexico and Canada.
> | 
> | It was just the latest chapter in a chaotic rollout of one
> | of Trump's favorite economic tools, one that economists
> | broadly say will lead to higher prices. Many tariffs on
> | lots of goods are still in place, and the delay on the rest
> | only extends until April 2, leaving companies and consumers
> | unsure of what to expect, sometimes hour to hour.
> | ...
><https://www.npr.org/2025/03/07/nx-s1-5320159/trump-week-tariffs-mexico-canada-doge>
>
>    --bks

So...where's the "flip flop"?

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#2906091

>>>>>>>>>> | Trump to Pause Auto Tariffs for One Month as Other Levies
>>>>>>>>>> | Continue

>>>>>>>> | Trump's Tariffs Are No 'Emergency'

>>>>>> | Tariff War Risks Sinking World Into New Great Depression,
>>>>>> | International Chamber of Commerce Warns

>>>>> | The Trump Depression

>>Flip-flop, flip-flop:
>> | 
>> | After drops in the stock market, outcry from the Big Three
>> | automakers in the U.S. and a conversation with Mexico's
>> | president, President Trump again reversed himself and is
>> | delaying tariffs against Mexico and Canada.

Trump puts the "FFS" in "tariffs."

    --bks

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