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  MAGA And Iran, Sittin' In A Tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-06-24 18:38 -0400
    Re: MAGA And Iran, Sittin' In A Tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G bks@panix.com (Bradley K. Sherman) - 2026-06-25 12:40 +0000
      Re: MAGA And Iran, Sittin' In A Tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 21:22 -0400
    Re: MAGA And Iran, Sittin' In A Tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 21:15 -0400

#3048575 — MAGA And Iran, Sittin' In A Tree, K-I-S-S-I-N-G

 | 
 | For decades, the idea that Iran's regime represented the
 | worst of the world's worst stood as a pillar of Republican
 | foreign policy.
 | 
 | But in recent months, and especially as the Trump
 | administration has defended its preliminary peace deal, a
 | different perspective has been taking hold in parts of the
 | American right: Iran as a pragmatic country that the United
 | States can, and must, learn to live with.
 | 
 | The stark shift has been led by President Trump, who called
 | Iran's leaders "strong people, smart people" last week, but
 | it goes well beyond him. Vice President JD Vance has
 | emerged as its main proponent. Conservatives who long had
 | an isolationist streak have been energized. Even some
 | longtime hawks have changed their tone.
 | ...
<https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/24/us/politics/republicans-iran.html>

    --bks

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#3048718

> | The stark shift has been led by President Trump, who called
> | Iran's leaders "strong people, smart people" last week, but
> | it goes well beyond him. Vice President JD Vance has
> | emerged as its main proponent. Conservatives who long had
> | an isolationist streak have been energized. Even some
> | longtime hawks have changed their tone.

 |
 | The Whiplash of Trump's Iran Capitulation
 | ... 
 | But nothing compares to "the Iran war" as an off-the-rails
 | subplot that defies comprehension: A major military
 | operation that began with thunderous promises of regime
 | change in Tehran and the remaking of the Middle East is now
 | fizzling out with Vice President Vance gamely standing
 | around in Switzerland while Donald Trump proclaims that
 | Iran needs missiles and the new ayatollah's emissaries
 | demand more reparations. The whiplash is so extreme, the
 | outcomes so ludicrous, that no sensible screenwriter would
 | attempt to sell any of this as a coherent story.
 | ...
<https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/trump-iran-foreign-policy/687683/?gift=otEsSHbRYKNfFYMngVFweLt_sL6gXwEQlzA-iN1Wy6c&preview=yGDm-5lfXkZioxsij6SoaSfcSpQ>

    --bks

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#3049022

On Thu, 25 Jun 2026 12:40:57 -0000 (UTC), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

>> | The stark shift has been led by President Trump, who called
>> | Iran's leaders "strong people, smart people" last week, but
>> | it goes well beyond him. Vice President JD Vance has
>> | emerged as its main proponent. Conservatives who long had
>> | an isolationist streak have been energized. Even some
>> | longtime hawks have changed their tone.
>
> |
> | The Whiplash of Trump's Iran Capitulation
> | ... 
> | But nothing compares to "the Iran war" as an off-the-rails
> | subplot that defies comprehension: A major military
> | operation that began with thunderous promises of regime
> | change in Tehran and the remaking of the Middle East is now
> | fizzling out with Vice President Vance gamely standing
> | around in Switzerland while Donald Trump proclaims that
> | Iran needs missiles and the new ayatollah's emissaries
> | demand more reparations. The whiplash is so extreme, the
> | outcomes so ludicrous, that no sensible screenwriter would
> | attempt to sell any of this as a coherent story.
> | ...
><https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/trump-iran-foreign-policy/687683/?gift=otEsSHbRYKNfFYMngVFweLt_sL6gXwEQlzA-iN1Wy6c&preview=yGDm-5lfXkZioxsij6SoaSfcSpQ>
>
>    --bks

It's odd that phat mouth Phreddie, who's insulted every ally in NATO,
has nothing bad to say about Iran.  (but it could change at any moment
so stay tuned)

"Trump, for his part, started denying that regime change was ever a
goal—“I never cared about regime change,” he said a few weeks
ago—while asserting at the same time that he had, in fact, effected a
change in regime by killing a lot of top Iranian leaders. Trump has
since left even that argument behind: He is negotiating with members
of the same Iranian regime that existed four months ago, but now Trump
calls them “very rational people” who are “nice to deal with,” who are
“not radicalized,” and who are “you know, looking to help their
country.”"

This just a day after threatening to bomb the country out of existence
and steal all their land.

He's insane.
-- 
TACO is as TACO does

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#3049021

On Wed, 24 Jun 2026 18:38:28 -0400 (EDT), bks@panix.com (Bradley K.
Sherman) wrote:

> | 
> | For decades, the idea that Iran's regime represented the
> | worst of the world's worst stood as a pillar of Republican
> | foreign policy.
> | 
> | But in recent months, and especially as the Trump
> | administration has defended its preliminary peace deal, a
> | different perspective has been taking hold in parts of the
> | American right: Iran as a pragmatic country that the United
> | States can, and must, learn to live with.
> | 
> | The stark shift has been led by President Trump, who called
> | Iran's leaders "strong people, smart people" last week, but
> | it goes well beyond him. Vice President JD Vance has
> | emerged as its main proponent. Conservatives who long had
> | an isolationist streak have been energized. Even some
> | longtime hawks have changed their tone.
> | ...
><https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/24/us/politics/republicans-iran.html>

Well, that's what you do when you fsck up, isn't it?  Try to spin it
into a victory?

"It's not a bug, it's a feature!"
-- 
TACO is as TACO does

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