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  Re: 9/11 and the gullible "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-08 09:15 -0500
    Re: Red herrings galore jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-08 18:17 +0000
      Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-08 16:30 -0400
        Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-08 16:53 -0400
          Re: 9/11 and the gullible "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-08 16:29 -0500
          Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-08 17:30 -0400
            Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore Sarah Ehrett <ninety7gt@cox.net> - 2015-09-08 19:47 -0400
              Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-09 12:41 -0400
            Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-13 14:41 -0500
              Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore warrenbuckley1@gmail.com - 2015-10-13 14:01 -0700
                Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore edrhodes@hotmail.com - 2015-10-14 10:31 -0700
              Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore dmaster <dan.woj@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-10-15 10:42 -0700
            Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-10-13 14:51 -0500
        Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-09-08 20:59 +0000
        Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 03:51 -0500
          Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-09 12:46 -0400
            Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 18:44 -0500
              Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-10 10:31 -0400
                Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-10 19:34 -0500
                  Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-11 09:37 -0400
                    Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-11 11:00 -0400
                      Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-09-11 15:23 +0000
                        Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-11 12:22 -0400
                    Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore joeturn <joeturn2000@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-11 13:06 -0700
                    Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-11 18:05 -0500
                      Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> - 2015-09-12 13:19 -0400
                        Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-09-12 14:06 -0400
                        Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-12 20:16 -0500
    Re: 9/11 and the gullible "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-09 03:48 -0500

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#266734 — Re: 9/11 and the gullible

"Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message 
news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a cave.
> steel framed buildings falling into their "footprint".
> You couldn't make this up in a "B" sci-fi movie. No one , well only
> those "educated" in the gummint skools would believe it.
> We call them "Sheeple" for a reason or two.

Two jets flying in Nuke York City
forgot their shadows and that was a pity..

Two 110 story buildings appeared to fall down
but a closer observation shows next to nothing around.

Some people say that there was a nuke or more
other people that love cartoons say what a bore.

Areas of Ground Zero were covered with M291
and when Osama was killed people thought we won.

Samples for radiation levels were carefully picked
and lying seismic readings are hard to be licked.

Most everyone thinks they are people
but to our government we are no more than sheeple.

:-)

Rocky 

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#266764 — Re: Red herrings galore

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> 
> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message 
> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a cave.

On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.



-- 
Jim Pennino

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#266777 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>> cave.
>
> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.





WRONG.
The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to sea.

Of course if you prefer to keep thinking that the whole of the US armed 
forces are nothing but a bunch of buffoons.
And that a few camel jockeys can outsmart them all.

....Maybe you deserve them, keeping you safe from all the bad ol' boogy-men

Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC except 
perhaps a cruise missle and some bomb explosions, it would make sense to 
keep any credible witnesses away as far as possible. 

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#266780 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>
>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>>> cave.
>>
>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
>
>
>
>
>
>WRONG.
>The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to sea.

Incorrect.  

The alert aircraft that morning were F15's from the Massachusetts ANG's
104th Fighter Wing.  They scrambled from Cape Cod's Otis Air Guard Base.  

At no point were they vectored out to sea.  

>Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC except 
>perhaps a cruise missle ...

A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch platform?  

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#266788

"Sarah Ehrett" <ninety7gt@cox.net> wrote in message 
news:45iuuahlo5mbg3vsjaroiec56af4mpdeec@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>>>> cave.
>>>
>>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
>>
>>
>>WRONG.
>>The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to sea.
>
> Incorrect.

So if it wasn't the Flight 175 where NORAD sent their pilots out to see then 
it was Flight 77 because that flight had multiple radar blibs as part of one 
of the war games the military was playing on 9/11/01.


> The alert aircraft that morning were F15's from the Massachusetts ANG's
> 104th Fighter Wing.  They scrambled from Cape Cod's Otis Air Guard Base.
>
> At no point were they vectored out to sea.

ROTFLMAO because the stories from NORAD where constantly changing and 
changing and changing so they ended up looking like they didn't have the 
time they needed.

And the most important thing to note about NORAD is for once in their 
history they closed their bomb door as if they were expecting to be nuked 
themselves.

>>Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC except
>>perhaps a cruise missle ...
>
> A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch platform?

A ship duh.  And the cruise missile that rammed the Pentagon was launched 
from a ship.

You really should watch the following to learn what our media would not tell 
us.

Dimitri Khalezov - WTC Nuclear Demolition [Complete / Full Length]
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lec9giab90I

Rocky 

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#266789 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

Sarah Ehrett wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>>>> cave.
>>>
>>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> WRONG.
>> The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to
>> sea.
>
> Incorrect.
>
> The alert aircraft that morning were F15's from the Massachusetts ANG's
> 104th Fighter Wing.  They scrambled from Cape Cod's Otis Air Guard Base.
>
> At no point were they vectored out to sea.
>
>> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
>> except perhaps a cruise missle ...
>
> A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch
> platform?





I can not answer that, but these people saw it, so I suggest you ask them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM 

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#266804 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 17:30:06 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:

>
>
>Sarah Ehrett wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>>>>> cave.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>>>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> WRONG.
>>> The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to
>>> sea.
>>
>> Incorrect.
>>
>> The alert aircraft that morning were F15's from the Massachusetts ANG's
>> 104th Fighter Wing.  They scrambled from Cape Cod's Otis Air Guard Base.
>>
>> At no point were they vectored out to sea.
>>
>>> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
>>> except perhaps a cruise missle ...
>>
>> A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch
>> platform?
>
>
>
>
>
>I can not answer that, but these people saw it, so I suggest you ask them.
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM 
>

You're passing if off as the truth so you must believe it.  Where is your
evidence?  

Or do you just want me to call you Polly?

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#266844 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

Sarah Ehrett wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 17:30:06 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Sarah Ehrett wrote:
>>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>>>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in
>>>>>>> a cave.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>>>>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> WRONG.
>>>> The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to
>>>> sea.
>>>
>>> Incorrect.
>>>
>>> The alert aircraft that morning were F15's from the Massachusetts
>>> ANG's 104th Fighter Wing.  They scrambled from Cape Cod's Otis Air
>>> Guard Base.
>>>
>>> At no point were they vectored out to sea.
>>>
>>>> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
>>>> except perhaps a cruise missle ...
>>>
>>> A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch
>>> platform?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I can not answer that, but these people saw it, so I suggest you ask
>> them.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM
>>
>
> You're passing if off as the truth so you must believe it.  Where is
> your evidence?




I just gave you a link to watch, of eywitness' that the media captured 
live,....but seemed to lose, and never re-broadcast it.
Do you not trust live newsfootage ??

You did when you say you saw planes, and alleged hijackers faces, and WMD's 
in Iraq, and Bin Ladens dead body.



>
> Or do you just want me to call you Polly?




Well, you can call me Polly
Or you can call me sam
Or you can call me sammy-joe.
But don't call me late for dinner.

......Ya gotta love vaudeville 

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#269622 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

"dmaster" <danwojciechowski5@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:b87a0b8d-f2d6-4841-8221-5c500710bb38@googlegroups.com...
> On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Bast wrote:
> ...
>> >> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
>> >> except perhaps a cruise missle ...
>> >
>> > A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch
>> > platform?
> ...
>> I can not answer that, but these people saw it, so I suggest you ask 
>> them.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM
>
> Actually, the evidence clearly indicates that people saw a large passenger 
> jet, not a missile.
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary
>
> Dan (Woj...)


ROTFLMAO because it doesn't matter one iota how many people claimed to see a 
jet in Nuke York City on 9/11 because nothing can change the fact those 
people were all consistent with crisis actors and the alleged jet was not 
consistent with a real jet.  See:

Theory of Ghostplane
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNXmgF2yAEc

or

07 - The Key
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds

And the speed that the Twin Towers fell is not consistent with a kerosene 
collapse and what was left of the Twin Towers was not consistent with a 
kerosene collapse either.
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

Plus there are a lot of people out there bashing NIST for all the crap they 
fed us and NIST themselves could not explain why the Twin Towers kept 
falling after they started falling or why WTC7 fell as fast as it did but 
underground nukes can.  <G>

And there is something else underground nukes can explain and that is why 
there is nobody in the following photo:
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

And don't forget dmaster, it was you who proved underground nukes don't have 
to have a flash or an air blast wave so they could be used right in front of 
your eyes and you wouldn't know it unless if you looked at the total 
destruction left behind by nukes.

and then why there are just Iron Workers in this photo.  Here, I'll help. 
The radiation at GZ was so bad the first 3 days nobody was allowed in the 
first two days and only Iron workers with big machines were allowed in on 
the third day after 9/11.
 http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5090/1289/1600/Ground%20Zero%20on%209111.jpg 

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#269626 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 8:42:31 PM UTC+1, Rocky wrote:
> "dmaster" <danwojciechowski5@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:b87a0b8d-f2d6-4841-8221-5c500710bb38@googlegroups.com...
> > On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Bast wrote:
> > ...
> >> >> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
> >> >> except perhaps a cruise missle ...
> >> >
> >> > A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch
> >> > platform?
> > ...
> >> I can not answer that, but these people saw it, so I suggest you ask 
> >> them.
> >>
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM
> >
> > Actually, the evidence clearly indicates that people saw a large passenger 
> > jet, not a missile.
> >
> > https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary
> >
> > Dan (Woj...)
> 
> 
> ROTFLMAO because it doesn't matter one iota how many people claimed to see a 
> jet in Nuke York City on 9/11 because nothing can change the fact those 
> people were all consistent with crisis actors and the alleged jet was not 
> consistent with a real jet.  See:
> 
> Theory of Ghostplane
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONXmgF2yAEc
> 

ROTFLMAO because it doesn't matter one iota how many people claimed to see a
jet in New York City on 9/11 because nothing can change the fact those
people were all consistent with New York citizens and the jet was not
consistent with a CGI.
> 
> 07 - The Key
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds
> 
> And the speed that the Twin Towers fell is not consistent with a kerosene 
> collapse and what was left of the Twin Towers was not consistent with a 
> kerosene collapse either.
>  http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
> 
> Plus there are a lot of people out there bashing NIST for all the crap they 
> fed us and NIST themselves could not explain why the Twin Towers kept 
> falling after they started falling or why WTC7 fell as fast as it did but 
> underground nukes can.  <G>


"could not explain why the Twin Towers kept  falling after they started 
falling" Could that be gravity, or did you expect them to stop falling? 
> And there is something else underground nukes can explain and that is why 
> there is nobody in the following photo:
>  http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
> 
> And don't forget dmaster, it was you who proved underground nukes don't have 
> to have a flash or an air blast wave so they could be used right in front of 
> your eyes and you wouldn't know it unless if you looked at the total 
> destruction left behind by nukes.
> 
> and then why there are just Iron Workers in this photo.  Here, I'll help. 
> The radiation at GZ was so bad the first 3 days nobody was allowed in the 
> first two days and only Iron workers with big machines were allowed in on 
> the third day after 9/11.
>  http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5090/1289/1600/Ground%20Zero%20on%209111.jpg

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#269648 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 5:01:41 PM UTC-4, warrenb...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 8:42:31 PM UTC+1, Rocky wrote:
> > "dmaster" <danwojciechowski5@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> > news:b87a0b8d-f2d6-4841-8221-5c500710bb38@googlegroups.com...
> > > On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Bast wrote:
> > > ...
> > >> >> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
> > >> >> except perhaps a cruise missle ...
> > >> >
> > >> > A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch
> > >> > platform?
> > > ...
> > >> I can not answer that, but these people saw it, so I suggest you ask 
> > >> them.
> > >>
> > >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM
> > >
> > > Actually, the evidence clearly indicates that people saw a large passenger 
> > > jet, not a missile.
> > >
> > > https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary
> > >
> > > Dan (Woj...)
> > 
> > 
> > ROTFLMAO because it doesn't matter one iota how many people claimed to see a 
> > jet in Nuke York City on 9/11 because nothing can change the fact those 
> > people were all consistent with crisis actors and the alleged jet was not 
> > consistent with a real jet.  See:
> > 
> > Theory of Ghostplane
> >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONXmgF2yAEc
> > 
> 
> ROTFLMAO because it doesn't matter one iota how many people claimed to see a
> jet in New York City on 9/11 because nothing can change the fact those
> people were all consistent with New York citizens and the jet was not
> consistent with a CGI.
> > 
> > 07 - The Key
> >  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml2TL5N8ds
> > 
> > And the speed that the Twin Towers fell is not consistent with a kerosene 
> > collapse and what was left of the Twin Towers was not consistent with a 
> > kerosene collapse either.
> >  http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
> > 
> > Plus there are a lot of people out there bashing NIST for all the crap they 
> > fed us and NIST themselves could not explain why the Twin Towers kept 
> > falling after they started falling or why WTC7 fell as fast as it did but 
> > underground nukes can.  <G>
> 
> 
> "could not explain why the Twin Towers kept  falling after they started 
> falling" Could that be gravity, or did you expect them to stop falling? 
> > And there is something else underground nukes can explain and that is why 
> > there is nobody in the following photo:
> >  http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
> > 
> > And don't forget dmaster, it was you who proved underground nukes don't have 
> > to have a flash or an air blast wave so they could be used right in front of 
> > your eyes and you wouldn't know it unless if you looked at the total 
> > destruction left behind by nukes.
> > 
> > and then why there are just Iron Workers in this photo.  Here, I'll help. 
> > The radiation at GZ was so bad the first 3 days nobody was allowed in the 
> > first two days and only Iron workers with big machines were allowed in on 
> > the third day after 9/11.
> >  http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5090/1289/1600/Ground%20Zero%20on%209111.jpg

I honestly think they expected the top portion to fall AROUND the lower section of each Tower. This might have actually happened had the Towers had evenly spaced vertical supports within them like most buildings. But, as we know, they designed the Towers so the vertical supports were in the outer frame and the inner core. When the outer frame failed, the inner core could not hold the strain and the buildings collapsed.

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#269673 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 2:42:31 PM UTC-5, Rocky wrote:
> "dmaster" <danwojciechowski5@gmail.com> wrote in message 
...
> And don't forget dmaster, it was you who proved underground nukes don't have 
> to have a flash or an air blast wave so they could be used right in front of 
> your eyes and you wouldn't know it unless if you looked at the total 
> destruction left behind by nukes.
...
Of course I did no such thing. The videos I linked showed a shock wave that was visible on camera from an airplane or helicopter far from the site of the blast. One of the videos showed the ground heaving several feet into the air. Most of the video clips showed an enormous collapse shortly after the detonation. None of these things were seen at the WTC towers, as even Rocky clearly must know.

But of course, trying to discuss anything with Rocky is like playing chess with a pigeon: No matter how well you play, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, crap on the board, and strut around like it has won.

Dan (Woj...)

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#269623 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

"dmaster" <danwojciechowski5@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:58b1f0f4-2c3d-4c15-98a3-c14fad52eb13@googlegroups.com...
> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 1:19:42 PM UTC-5, dmaster wrote:
>> On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 1:17:13 PM UTC-5, dmaster wrote:
>> > On Tuesday, October 13, 2015 at 1:15:18 PM UTC-5, dmaster wrote:
>> > > On Tuesday, September 8, 2015 at 4:30:13 PM UTC-5, Bast wrote:
>> > > ...
>> > > > >> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in 
>> > > > >> NYC
>> > > > >> except perhaps a cruise missle ...
>> > > > >
>> > > > > A cruise missile?   What kind of cruise missile and what launch
>> > > > > platform?
>> > > ...
>> > > > I can not answer that, but these people saw it, so I suggest you 
>> > > > ask them.
>> > > >
>> > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM
>> > >
>> > > Actually, the evidence clearly indicates that people saw a large 
>> > > passenger jet, not a missile.
>> > >
>> > > https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/911pentagonflight77evidencesummary
>> > >
>> > > Dan (Woj...)
>> >
>> > Oops, that is for the Pentagon. Sorry.
>> >
>> > Dan (Woj...)
>>
>> Here is a link for what some people in NYC reported seeing:
>>
>> https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/whattheysaw%3Aeyewitnessaccountsofthenycai
>>
>> Dan (Woj...)
>
> Further evidence for airplane attacks on the WTC towers on 9/11 (as if it 
> weren't obvious enough to the sane).
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/wtc7lies/aircraftpartsnyc911
>
> Dan (Woj...)


ROTFLMAO because the above was copied from Popular Mechanics and I've 
already proven that Popular Mechanic was full of bullshit by using NIST. 
<G>

NIST knows damn well they can not explain the total destruction of the Twin 
Towers by a "Pancake collapse" so they didn't but what the hell did Popular 
Mechanics do?  Yep, you guessed it PM took a lie that even NIST wouldn't use 
and used it themselves.

BTW how do we know that the Twin Towers were not a pancake collapse? 
Because the floors on the bottom would be stacked up like pancakes but they 
were not.  See:
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

Sadly the floors on the very bottom of the Twin Towers resemble a nuclear 
demolition instead of a kerosene collapse.  And even the very high radiation 
from ground zero the first 3 days was also consistent with a nuclear 
demolition instead of kerosene collapse.  <G>
 http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/5090/1289/1600/Ground%20Zero%20on%209111.jpg

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#266782 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

In sci.physics Bast <fakename@nomail.invalid> wrote:
> 
> 
> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>>> cave.
>>
>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> WRONG.
> The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to sea.

Correct.

Prior to 9/11 the entire continental air defense system was looking
outward for exterior threats as no one had imagined an airstrike
on the continental US originating from within the US.

Given the thinking and mission at that time, sending aircraft out to
sea to seek an exterior threat would make complete sense.


<snip remaing babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#266824 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
wrote:

>jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>>> cave.
>>
>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
>
>
>WRONG.
>The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to sea.

     So Jim is wrong AND right? 

>
>Of course if you prefer to keep thinking that the whole of the US armed 
>forces are nothing but a bunch of buffoons.
>And that a few camel jockeys can outsmart them all.

     Nice racism.

>
>....Maybe you deserve them, keeping you safe from all the bad ol' boogy-men
>
>Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC except 
>perhaps a cruise missle and some bomb explosions, it would make sense to 
>keep any credible witnesses away as far as possible. 

     Yet thousands of people stated they saw the planes hit the
towers. Odd that.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#266845 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>>>> cave.
>>>
>>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
>>
>>
>> WRONG.
>> The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to
>> sea.
>
>     So Jim is wrong AND right?
>
>>
>> Of course if you prefer to keep thinking that the whole of the US armed
>> forces are nothing but a bunch of buffoons.
>> And that a few camel jockeys can outsmart them all.
>
>     Nice racism.
>
>>
>> ....Maybe you deserve them, keeping you safe from all the bad ol'
>> boogy-men
>>
>> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
>> except perhaps a cruise missle and some bomb explosions, it would make
>> sense to keep any credible witnesses away as far as possible.
>
>     Yet thousands of people stated they saw the planes hit the
> towers. Odd that.




Who are these THOUSANDS you speak of ???
Are they the movie extras that were used in the making of Ben Hur ???
".....And a cast of thousands"


They sure weren't around during 9/11, only these guys.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM

Thousands of people see UFO's every year though,....although I'm not sure if 
that helps you at all.

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#266876 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:46:49 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
wrote:

>K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
>> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
>>>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
>>>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
>>>>>> cave.
>>>>
>>>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
>>>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
>>>
>>>
>>> WRONG.
>>> The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to
>>> sea.
>>
>>     So Jim is wrong AND right?
>>
>>> Of course if you prefer to keep thinking that the whole of the US armed
>>> forces are nothing but a bunch of buffoons.
>>> And that a few camel jockeys can outsmart them all.
>>
>>     Nice racism.
>>
>>> ....Maybe you deserve them, keeping you safe from all the bad ol'
>>> boogy-men
>>>
>>> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
>>> except perhaps a cruise missle and some bomb explosions, it would make
>>> sense to keep any credible witnesses away as far as possible.
>>
>>     Yet thousands of people stated they saw the planes hit the
>> towers. Odd that.
>
>Who are these THOUSANDS you speak of ???

     The thousands who have publicly stated they saw the planes hit
the towers.
     Of course, far more saw the second plane, since attention was
focused on the towers due to the first one having been hit.

>Are they the movie extras that were used in the making of Ben Hur ???
>".....And a cast of thousands"

     It is very plausible some were actors. New York had, and has, a
great theater business. It isn't at all plausible to even suggest that
*all* were.

>
>
>They sure weren't around during 9/11, only these guys.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM
>
>Thousands of people see UFO's every year though,....although I'm not sure if 
>that helps you at all.
>

     If one sees something in the air they can't identify, then it is
an Unidentified Flying Object. 
     You probably mean alien space craft. If thousands of people were
to claim they saw the same craft at the same time, I'd be more willing
to accept that such a space craft existed and was seen. 

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#266901 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

In article <31h1vah5la8d3deogjqel6d5emh012rmu7@4ax.com>, 
compuelf@gmail.com says...
> 
> On Wed, 9 Sep 2015 12:46:49 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> >K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
> >> On Tue, 8 Sep 2015 16:30:15 -0400, "Bast" <fakename@nomail.invalid>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com wrote:
> >>>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> "Karen Silkwood" <georgeswk@toast.net> wrote in message
> >>>>> news:georgeswk-D2611A.07362525032011@news.toast.net...
> >>>>>> a national air defense system that can be defeated by some guy in a
> >>>>>> cave.
> >>>>
> >>>> On 9/11 the national air defense system no mission for the interior
> >>>> airpace of the continental US; it was all looking outward.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> WRONG.
> >>> The planes that could have been in NYC,  were deliberaly sent out to
> >>> sea.
> >>
> >>     So Jim is wrong AND right?
> >>
> >>> Of course if you prefer to keep thinking that the whole of the US armed
> >>> forces are nothing but a bunch of buffoons.
> >>> And that a few camel jockeys can outsmart them all.
> >>
> >>     Nice racism.
> >>
> >>> ....Maybe you deserve them, keeping you safe from all the bad ol'
> >>> boogy-men
> >>>
> >>> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
> >>> except perhaps a cruise missle and some bomb explosions, it would make
> >>> sense to keep any credible witnesses away as far as possible.
> >>
> >>     Yet thousands of people stated they saw the planes hit the
> >> towers. Odd that.
> >
> >Who are these THOUSANDS you speak of ???
> 
>      The thousands who have publicly stated they saw the planes hit
> the towers.
>      Of course, far more saw the second plane, since attention was
> focused on the towers due to the first one having been hit.

This simple fact seems to be totally beyond Bast's ability to 
understand. WTF else did she think most of the NYC area's population 
would be looking at?

> 
> >Are they the movie extras that were used in the making of Ben Hur ???
> >".....And a cast of thousands"
> 
>      It is very plausible some were actors. New York had, and has, a
> great theater business. It isn't at all plausible to even suggest that
> *all* were.
> 
> >
> >
> >They sure weren't around during 9/11, only these guys.
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GffVvYFrtPM
> >
> >Thousands of people see UFO's every year though,....although I'm not sure if 
> >that helps you at all.
> >
> 
>      If one sees something in the air they can't identify, then it is
> an Unidentified Flying Object. 
>      You probably mean alien space craft. If thousands of people were
> to claim they saw the same craft at the same time, I'd be more willing
> to accept that such a space craft existed and was seen. 



-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, Psychotronic World Dominator. Master of 
Remote Viewing. Level 6 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#266940 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:31:01 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
wrote:

[...]

>> >>> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
>> >>> except perhaps a cruise missle and some bomb explosions, it would make
>> >>> sense to keep any credible witnesses away as far as possible.
>> >>
>> >>     Yet thousands of people stated they saw the planes hit the
>> >> towers. Odd that.
>> >
>> >Who are these THOUSANDS you speak of ???
>> 
>>      The thousands who have publicly stated they saw the planes hit
>> the towers.
>>      Of course, far more saw the second plane, since attention was
>> focused on the towers due to the first one having been hit.
>
>This simple fact seems to be totally beyond Bast's ability to 
>understand. WTF else did she think most of the NYC area's population 
>would be looking at?

     I think Bast took the short bus to school.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#266978 — Re: 9/11 Red herrings galore

K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
> On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 10:31:01 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
> wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>>>>>> Of course if someone knew there was nothing for them to see in NYC
>>>>>> except perhaps a cruise missle and some bomb explosions, it would
>>>>>> make sense to keep any credible witnesses away as far as possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>     Yet thousands of people stated they saw the planes hit the
>>>>> towers. Odd that.
>>>>
>>>> Who are these THOUSANDS you speak of ???
>>>
>>>      The thousands who have publicly stated they saw the planes hit
>>> the towers.
>>>      Of course, far more saw the second plane, since attention was
>>> focused on the towers due to the first one having been hit.
>>
>> This simple fact seems to be totally beyond Bast's ability to
>> understand. WTF else did she think most of the NYC area's population
>> would be looking at?
>
>     I think Bast took the short bus to school.



9/11 Anatomy Of A Great Deception
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0Q5eZhCPuc


15 Disturbing facts about 9/11 yoe;ll wish were not true
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbsZjW-m0x8


Watch, and do your own further research and verification

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