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WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys

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First post2015-08-23 12:40 -0500
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  WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 12:40 -0500
    Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 12:47 -0500
      Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 13:02 -0500
        Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 18:23 +0000
        Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 15:50 -0500
        Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-24 12:06 -0400
    Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 10:53 -0700
      Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 15:56 -0500
        caught gilber34 in bullshit (was: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 16:41 -0500
          Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 21:44 +0000
          Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit (was: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys) je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 15:02 -0700
          Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 17:07 -0500
            Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 17:22 -0500
              Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 18:20 -0500
                caught gilber34 in even more bullshit "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:00 -0500
                  Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 18:07 -0700
                    Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:24 -0500
                      Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 18:36 -0700
                      Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 02:29 +0000
                      Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 23:04 -0500
                        Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 22:11 +0100
                          Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 20:16 -0500
                            Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-25 10:06 +0100
                  Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 02:28 +0000
                  Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 23:02 -0500
                  Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-24 06:07 +0200
              Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-24 01:48 +0200
                Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 20:52 -0500
                  Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 02:30 +0000
                  Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-24 05:47 +0200
                    Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 04:12 -0500
                      Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@sci.physics.cunt.scabs> - 2015-08-25 10:45 +0000
                        Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 08:11 -0500
                          Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:38 +0000
                      Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 08:00 -0500
                        Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 11:18 -0500
                        Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:39 +0000
                        Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-24 19:06 +0200
                          Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 12:54 -0500
                            Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 20:19 -0500
                            Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 04:51 +0200
                      Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-24 17:12 +0200
                        Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 10:32 -0500
                          Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-24 20:02 +0200
                            Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 13:37 -0500
                              Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-24 15:08 -0400
                                Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 04:40 +0200
                                  Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 23:53 -0500
                                    Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 08:52 +0200
                                      Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post snipe@spambin.fsnet.co.uk (Sn!pe) - 2015-08-25 08:03 +0100
                                        Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 08:58 -0500
                                          Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 17:25 +0200
                                            Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-25 10:52 -0500
                                              Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 11:34 -0500
                                              Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-25 16:47 +0000
                                              Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 20:31 +0200
                                            Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:24 -0500
                                              Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-26 08:06 -0400
                                  Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-25 11:00 -0400
                                    Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 18:42 +0200
                                      Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-25 13:09 -0400
                                        Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-26 03:44 +0200
                                          Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-26 08:00 -0400
                                            Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-26 19:59 +0200
                                              Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-26 15:39 -0400
                                                Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 06:42 +0200
                                                  Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-27 09:58 -0400
                                                    Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-27 20:09 +0200
                              Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 19:28 +0000
                              Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit + short post Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-25 05:29 +0200
                      Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 16:35 +0000
                      Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:57 -0500
              Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 00:10 +0000
          Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 23:15 +0100
            Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 18:08 -0500
              Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 00:11 +0000
              Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 23:11 -0500
                Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 21:20 -0700
                  Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-08-24 18:47 +0200
                    Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 12:24 -0500
                      Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 22:11 +0100
                      Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 20:20 -0500
    Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 18:20 +0000
    Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 22:35 +0200
      Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 17:28 -0500
        Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-24 01:32 +0200
        Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-24 17:28 -0500
          Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-24 23:48 +0100
            Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-24 23:17 +0000
          Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:59 -0500
          Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-24 20:21 -0500
          Re: w.t.c towers (no asbestos cladding <period "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-23 16:17 -0500
            Re: w.t.c towers (no asbestos cladding <period "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-09-24 09:19 -0500
              Re: w.t.c towers (no asbestos cladding <period "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-25 04:18 -0500
    Re: WTC Constructed to be nuclear device chimneys gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 16:19 -0500

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#265024 — Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit

FromTony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com>
Date2015-08-24 22:11 +0100
SubjectRe: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit
Message-ID<mrg171$llc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#264913
On 24/08/2015 05:04, gilber34 wrote:
> On 8/23/2015 8:24 PM, Rocky wrote:
>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>
>>> Since you say the explosion was below the surface how can a point on the
>>> surface
>>> be below that?
>>
>> Obviously the explosions went above the surface to vaporize the WTC1,
>> WTC2,
>> WTC3 and WTC4 the way they did.  See:
>
> <snip crap>
>
> so where is the radiation, dim bulb ?
>
>>
>> Rocky sheeple
>>
>>
>
  And what sort of radiation?
How was it detected?
Who detected it?

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#265062 — Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-24 20:16 -0500
SubjectRe: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit
Message-ID<mrgfmd$5ft$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#265024
On 8/24/2015 4:11 PM, Tony Dragon wrote:
> On 24/08/2015 05:04, gilber34 wrote:
>> On 8/23/2015 8:24 PM, Rocky wrote:
>>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>>
>>>> Since you say the explosion was below the surface how can a point on
>>>> the
>>>> surface
>>>> be below that?
>>>
>>> Obviously the explosions went above the surface to vaporize the WTC1,
>>> WTC2,
>>> WTC3 and WTC4 the way they did.  See:
>>
>> <snip crap>
>>
>> so where is the radiation, dim bulb ?
>>
>>>
>>> Rocky sheeple
>>>
>>>
>>
>   And what sort of radiation?
> How was it detected?
> Who detected it?

my questions exactly, where is the data Rockie, the flying squirrelie ?


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#265085 — Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit

FromTony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com>
Date2015-08-25 10:06 +0100
SubjectRe: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit
Message-ID<mrhb35$v36$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#265062
On 25/08/2015 02:16, gilber34 wrote:
> On 8/24/2015 4:11 PM, Tony Dragon wrote:
>> On 24/08/2015 05:04, gilber34 wrote:
>>> On 8/23/2015 8:24 PM, Rocky wrote:
>>>> "je suis charly" <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> wrote in message
>>>
>>>>> Since you say the explosion was below the surface how can a point on
>>>>> the
>>>>> surface
>>>>> be below that?
>>>>
>>>> Obviously the explosions went above the surface to vaporize the WTC1,
>>>> WTC2,
>>>> WTC3 and WTC4 the way they did.  See:
>>>
>>> <snip crap>
>>>
>>> so where is the radiation, dim bulb ?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rocky sheeple
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>   And what sort of radiation?
>> How was it detected?
>> Who detected it?
>
> my questions exactly, where is the data Rockie, the flying squirrelie ?
>
>
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He wont answer, the truth would upset his beliefs.

If he does answer he will point you to a video/ say he used to have the 
evidence but cant find it/ say that the web site no longer exists/ tell 
you to produce evidence that says otherwise/ evade the answer by trying 
to divert the thread or one of his other usual replies.

He has a history of going silent if asked specific questions.

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#264903 — Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-24 02:28 +0000
SubjectRe: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit
Message-ID<i3cqac-8i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#264892
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> bullshit.  See:
>  http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hypocenter
> and read where it states: "the point on the earth's surface directly below 
> the center of a nuclear bomb explosion"

Here are some other terms you should look up:

batshit crazy
crazy as a loon
retarded, delusional fuckwit

<snip remaining delusional drool>


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#264912 — Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-23 23:02 -0500
SubjectRe: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit
Message-ID<mre51f$ed3$1@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#264892
On 8/23/2015 8:00 PM, Rocky wrote:
> "gilber34" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
> news:mrdkg3$hfu$1@speranza.aioe.org...
>> On 8/23/2015 5:22 PM, Rocky wrote:
>>> "gilber34" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mrdg6e$8al$1@speranza.aioe.org...

>>>> Liar, 120 truckloads is about 600 cubic yards of dirt, enough to fill
>>>> the
>>>> twin towers to the depth of only 2 inches !
>>>
>>> It didn't have to fill the Twin Towers because the Hypocenter was under
>>> the
>>> side of WTC3
>>
>> no it was not, and there is no such thing as "hypocenter"
>

<snip crap>

>
>>> closest to WTC1 and not only did that nuke
>>
>> liar, no radiation => no nuke
>
> bullshit again and that is what I'm going to prove

kOOk, Quackers you are, kOoK

<snip crap>

>
>> wrong, if a nuke went off in Manhattan, the modern world would know about
>> it in less than a day, war would be declared.
>

<snip>

so where is your radiation, butt head ?
>

>> who ever is feeding you this crap, likes to feed you poo, and watch you
>> eat it, like a gullible as a 3 year old.
>

<snip kook poop>


>
> Stay tuned for how we know there was plenty of radiation at Ground Zero.

Liar, prove it.


>
> *Rocky, the Flying squirrelly*


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#264914 — Re: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2015-08-24 06:07 +0200
SubjectRe: caught gilber34 in even more bullshit
Message-ID<fee3f35d5834dc6b00bd9a45b090bb41@dizum.com>
In reply to#264892
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Rocky, in <news:8PmdnRRtaN3f8UfInZ2dnUU7-N2dnZ2d@giganews.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> "gilber34" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message 
> news:mrdkg3$hfu$1@speranza.aioe.org...

>> On 8/23/2015 5:22 PM, Rocky wrote:

>>> "gilber34" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message
>>> news:mrdg6e$8al$1@speranza.aioe.org...

>>>> Liar, 120 truckloads is about 600 cubic yards of dirt, enough to fill 
>>>> the twin towers to the depth of only 2 inches !

>>> <SMACKAKOOK!>

Tard. LOL
Kook. LOL

>> no it was not, and there is no such thing as "hypocenter"

> bu<SMACKAKOOK!>

You are delusional, gullible and stupid. Why haven't you taken your
meds?

Kook. LOL

>>> closest to WTC1 and not only did that nuke

>> liar, no radiation => no nuke

> bu<SMACKAKOOK!>

There was only "radiological cleanup" at the WTC site insofar as they
needed to remove the trace amounts of tritium found in the rubble,
which came from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapons
sights, trace amounts of radium from industrial processes unrelated to
nuclear weapons and *no* *other* radiation above background.

The video you provided of people washing off worker's boots with
fucking garden hoses isn't radiological decontamination, you fucking
tard. If there were any radiation at the WTC site, the workers would
be in NBC suits or CBRN suits, with full-face forced air breathing.
They'd be washing off in contained showers with catch basins to catch
the runoff water... do you believe they'd let the nuclear-contaminated
water just run back into the fucking ground? LOL

They most certainly would not have been wearing half-mask canister
respirators, blue jeans, steel-toed boots, dungaree shirts and
reflective vests, nor would they be wearing fucking Tyvek, you
retarded loon. They were cleaning asbestos and other toxics off their
shoes, they most certainly were not undergoing rad decon. LOL

And what the video k'lames is "volcanic glass detonation cavities" is
actually whirlpool basins carved by water flowing underneath glaciers
thousands of years ago... if it'd been "volcanic glass", the
striations would be twisted and convoluted like two colors of glass
mixed together, you'd see it all twisted up... not horizontal and
layered like rock that'd been worn away by water in a whirlpool, which
is what it is.

The truck you see being sprayed is merely ensuring its load is wet so
it doesn't blow that friable asbestos out the back. You'll note the
roll-over canvas cover at the front of the trailer... after the
contents are wet down, that's rolled back and locked into place so
shit doesn't blow out the back of the trailer. There was no
"decontamination" taking place there at all, that's standard practice
when hauling any loose material like sand, dirt, pulverized concrete,
etc. If you'd ever held any fucking job whatsoever, instead of being a
fucking unemployable mooch your whole life, you'd understand these
sorts of things, you less than useless turd.

"Strict full decontamination efforts taken including the standard
electrical taping of boots to prevent seeping of tritiated water into
the soft soles of human feet. This is standard protocol when leaving
ground zero."

BWAHAHAHAAAA! That's fucking retarded, nothing more than kook blather.
If any radiation had been present, they wouldn't fucking be using
electrical tape to keep water from seeping in to their fucking shoes,
they'd be in hermetically sealed NBC or CBRN suits with forced-air
full-face respirators, including rad boots. Let me guess, you made
this delusional little embarrassment of a video, right? LOL

For fuck sake, wake the fuck up, you clueless clown. LOL

Your broken brain is spewing utter bullshit with no proof. Even worse,
you're taking completely unrelated shit and trying to k'lame it's nuke
related. LOL

Kook. LOL

>> wrong, if a nuke went off in Manhattan, the modern world would know about 
>> it in less than a day, war would be declared.

> W<SMACKAKOOK!>

After that embarrassment of a video you just showed, you should be
shutting the fuck up. You just destroyed your own argument. I know
you're not smart enough to realize it, but everyone else is, and
they're *all* laughing at you.

Kook. LOL

>> who ever is feeding you this crap, likes to feed you poo, and watch you 
>> eat it, like a gullible as a 3 year old.

> <SMACKAKOOK!>

You're retarded and delusional.

Kook. LOL

> Stay tuned for how we know there was plenty of radiation at Ground Zero.

Message-ID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>
<http://www.takeourworldback.com/wtcnukeddisinfo.htm>
=====================================================
The absurdity of the "WTC was nuked" hoax

An excellent refutation of the "WTC was nuked" claims was
provided by Dr. Steven E. Jones, entitled "Hard Evidence
Repudiates the Hypothesis that Mini-Nukes Were Used on the WTC
Towers". He summarized a few key points as:

<http://www.journalof911studies.com/letters/a/Hard-Evidence-Rebudiates-the-Hypothesis-that-Mini-Nukes-were-used-on-the-wtc-towers-by-steven-jones.pdf>
===============
The data clearly demonstrate the large amount of tritium released
due to hydrogen bombs, the first of which was tested in 1951.
Thus, tritium is a tracer for hydrogen bombs, the "smoking gun."
Can proponents of the WTC-mini-nuke hypothesis explain how large
releases of tritium did NOT happen on 9/11/2001?

Sediment cores pulled from the Hudson River near the World Trade
Center site just a month after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist
attacks contain a thin layer of metal-rich ash and pulverized
debris. The top 3 cm of silt contained layers with unnaturally
high concentrations of copper, strontium, and zinc from the
towers, says Sarah D. Oktay, a geochemist. "Oktay and her
colleagues also found that the sediments contain small but
measurable quantities of iodine-131, a human-made radioactive
isotope with a half-life of about 8 days. Total iodine
concentrations were actually lower in the [WTC] debris-filled
layers, which means the source of the element probably isn't
related to the attacks."

Radionuclides. We analyzed the gamma spectrum of the samples
using an EG&G/Ortec high-purity Ge detector (50% relative
efficiency) gamma counter (EG&G/Ortec Instruments, Inc., Oak
Ridge, TN). We analyzed approximately 50 peaks based on
statistical significance (counting/lack of interferences). These
included thorium, uranium, actinium series, and primordial
radionuclides. Liquid scintillation analyses were conducted for
emissions on the total dust and smoke samples using a Packard
Tri-Carb Model 2770 TR/SL (Packard Instrument, Meriden, CT). The
MDA for alpha radioactivity was 0.30 DPM (0.14 pCi) based on a
NIST-traceable 226Ra standard (National Institute of Standards
and Technology, Gaithersburg, MD).

Results. We found only background levels of alpha radionuclide
activity by liquid scintillation counter analysis of all three
samples. Beta activity was slightly elevated, but not more than
twice the background level. There were no levels of gamma
activity > 1 Bq/g except for naturally occurring potassium-40.
These very low levels of radioactive isotopes (radionuclides) in
the WTC dust are by themselves sufficient to rule out the use of
atomic bombs (even as triggers) at the WTC, which could be
construed as an absurd notion as it confronts the empirical
facts.
===============

{NOTE: The elevated beta radiation was likely just as I stated,
the tritium from the airplane exit signs and law enforcement
weapon sights. Beta particles are nothing more than high-energy
electrons.}

- Observation of tritium (an important component of hydrogen-bomb
fuel) at WTC sites at the few nano-curie level only. This is
strong evidence against the mini-nuke hypothesis.

- The fact that radioactive iodine concentrations were actually
lower in the upper/WTC debris-filled layers.

- Radioactive hot-spots in NYC were found to be due to radium,
which is traceable to industrial uses (not bombs). This in itself
does not rule out mini-nukes, but these data certainly do not
support the mini-nuke hypothesis.

- Lioy et al. report that radioactivity from thorium, uranium,
actinium series and other radionuclides is at or near the
background level for WTC dust.

- Nuclear activation or residual "fall-out" radioactivity (above
background) was NOT observed, in tests performed by the author on
actual WTC samples. This result is consistent with the low
Iodine-131 measured by independent researchers (point 2 above)
and the low radionuclide counts (point 4 above) and again
provides compelling evidence against the mini-nuke-at-Towers
hypothesis.

- No fatalities due to radiation "burning" were reported near
ground zero. William Rodriguez survived the North Tower collapse.
No observed melting of glass due to the collapse-process of the
Towers.

- One more: The mini-nuke idea fails completely for WTC 7 where
vertically-directed plumes of dust were absent during the
collapse, and the building fell quite neatly onto its own
footprint. (Molten metal was observed under the WTC7 rubble as
well.)
=====================================================

Even the other broken-brained conspiracy kooks laugh at your
retardation, Rocky.

Kook. LOL

> Rocky

Now, get to addressing the 17 ways your kook conspiracy theory
violates the laws of physics:

======================================================
1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of
collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below
the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to
today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that
depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's
*why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al
Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human
history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep
Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep.

2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an
EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a
nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of
the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused
the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would
have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the
immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized
your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for
dozens of miles radius.

3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's
no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been
from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of
radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the
tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights
that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a
nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how
delusional you are.

4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or
anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>).
They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement
weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear
weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation.

5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be
sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people
in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed,
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2
MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were
buried.

6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron
source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay
byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it
decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon
poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger
being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any
sort of nuclear chain reaction.

7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it*
*was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical
support column and *NO* EMP:
======================
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo>
You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column
buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount
of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP.
======================

8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to
survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be
approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature
would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K?

9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a
hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding
rock.

10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic
taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of
satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were
detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects
were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft.

11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent
down to service those nukes (because now that you know the
neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a
periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire
facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the
technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with
"4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area
the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to
admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33
years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960
to 1840 degree heat?

12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>)
that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all
1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the
Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your
kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized"
(your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)?

13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic
signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC
site on 11 Sep 2001?

14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris
kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep
underground, Ko0K?

15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have
tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles
deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC
complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to
detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up
your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which
you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference
was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion
started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The
Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.).

16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes
(MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your
previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3
nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming
under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in
agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is?
While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps
(radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was
primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any
contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in
place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this
*still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed
"EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where
your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly
head again. LOL

17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your
"34 or more nukes" blather (you're now saying there were 65 nukes
(MID: <984122ddbf1e4e5d6f5a7b3f56eeeb6f@dizum.com>))... eventually,
your broken brain will be telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the
real city was blown up by
1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes
which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground
MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet
and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC
and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the
fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn
out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every
piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's
*proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL

Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back
on your meds, you delusional loon.
======================================================

There are now 17 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of
physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by
point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp
simple physics.

Kook. LOL

-- 

Rocky, your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting
*you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate
to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook
conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it
moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes.
Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent
nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot
"crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC
being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#264883 — Re: caught gilber34 in bullshit

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2015-08-24 01:48 +0200
SubjectRe: caught gilber34 in bullshit
Message-ID<7bf6e5bc9619de91b4a2fb88e5914239@dizum.com>
In reply to#264874
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Rocky, in <news:6pednczq5uTU2kfInZ2dnUU7-budnZ2d@giganews.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> "gilber34" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message 
> news:mrdg6e$8al$1@speranza.aioe.org...

>> Liar, 120 truckloads is about 600 cubic yards of dirt, enough to fill the 
>> twin towers to the depth of only 2 inches !

> It<SMACKAKOOK!>

Your math-challenged blathering are not allowed. If you're too fucking
stupid to provide any actual proof, choosing instead to fill that
gaping hole with frothing blather, do let us know now, so we can laugh
all the harder at your utter retardation.

Kook. LOL

>> you need a few thousand more trucks, and do the MATH first please!

> It is you who needs to get the correct location.  Again, the black or 
> treated dirt marks the spot of the covered up hypocenter that was under 
> WTC3.
> <SMACKAKOOK!>

Then why did they have it spread all around the place, you fucking
nitwit? It was diatomaceous earth, used to adsorb toxins and help in
the cleanup of those tons of friable asbestos.

And if it was under WTC3 (it wasn't, because no nukes were detonated
at the WTC site, no radiation associated with nukes was ever detected
anywhere in NYC, no EMP was recorded, no seismic signature of nukes
was recorded), how did it miss demolishing WTC3, you utter idiot?

Fuck sake, you're dumber than Emmett Gulley. LOL

Kook. LOL

> Rocky

Now, get to addressing the 17 ways your kook conspiracy theory
violates the laws of physics:

======================================================
1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of
collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below
the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to
today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that
depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's
*why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al
Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human
history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep
Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep.

2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an
EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a
nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of
the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused
the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would
have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the
immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized
your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for
dozens of miles radius.

3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's
no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been
from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of
radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the
tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights
that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a
nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how
delusional you are.

4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or
anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>).
They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement
weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear
weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation.

5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be
sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people
in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed,
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2
MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were
buried.

6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron
source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay
byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it
decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon
poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger
being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any
sort of nuclear chain reaction.

7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it*
*was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical
support column and *NO* EMP:
======================
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo>
You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column
buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount
of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP.
======================

8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to
survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be
approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature
would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K?

9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a
hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding
rock.

10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic
taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of
satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were
detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects
were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft.

11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent
down to service those nukes (because now that you know the
neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a
periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire
facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the
technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with
"4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area
the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to
admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33
years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960
to 1840 degree heat?

12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>)
that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all
1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the
Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your
kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized"
(your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)?

13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic
signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC
site on 11 Sep 2001?

14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris
kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep
underground, Ko0K?

15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have
tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles
deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC
complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to
detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up
your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which
you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference
was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion
started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The
Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.).

16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes
(MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your
previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3
nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming
under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in
agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is?
While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps
(radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was
primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any
contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in
place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this
*still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed
"EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where
your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly
head again. LOL

17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your
"34 or more nukes" blather... eventually, your broken brain will be
telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the real city was blown up by
1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes
which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground
MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet
and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC
and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the
fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn
out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every
piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's
*proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL

Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back
on your meds, you delusional loon.
======================================================

There are now 17 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of
physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by
point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp
simple physics.

Kook. LOL

-- 

Rocky, your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting
*you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate
to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook
conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it
moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes.
Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent
nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot
"crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC
being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#264897 — Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-23 20:52 -0500
SubjectCaught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit
Message-ID<mIqdnVlaf4Pv5UfInZ2dnUU7-I2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#264883
"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> 
wrote in message

> It was diatomaceous earth, used to adsorb toxins and help in
> the cleanup of those tons of friable asbestos.

That just happened to end up in the exact same location that deep a 
underground nuke would have to be detonated to do the damage it did to WTC1, 
WTC2 and WTC3.  See:
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg

And yes, the nuke under WTC3 also hit WTC2 that had already been destroyed 
by the nuke under WTC4 so all it did was lower the height of the "Surviving 
Wall" in WTC2 that was furthest from WTC4 but closest to WTC3.  See:
 http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg


> And if it was under WTC3 (it wasn't, because no nukes were detonated
> at the WTC site, no radiation associated with nukes was ever detected
> anywhere in NYC

ROTFLMAO because the post to prove our government was working hard because 
of the nukes detonated at Ground Zero is coming.  <G>

> no EMP was recorded

And you have not explained why there was an EMP recorded by WCBS at the 
exact same time that the ground shook under WTC2.  <G>

> no seismic signature of nukes

And at the same time there was no seismic signature of the ground shaking 
about 12 seconds before the North Tower was vaporized so someone screwed up.

Funny that all the earmarks needed that prove the Twin Towers were nuked 
exist except one and that one item completely missed the fact that the 
ground shook 12 seconds before the North Tower was vaporized so the seismic 
readings can be thrown out as bogus.  <G>

Talking about being thrown out as bogus.  So can the entire documentation by 
NIST as proven by:

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#264905 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-24 02:30 +0000
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit
Message-ID<i7cqac-8i7.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#264897
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
>> It was diatomaceous earth, used to adsorb toxins and help in
>> the cleanup of those tons of friable asbestos.

There were no nukes, delusional fuckwit.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs as the slight disturbances (less than 2 on the
Richter scale) that rational people would expect from such events.

A 1 kiloton explosion registers at about 4 on the Richter scale, a
fact that is widely known and trivial to verify.

Seismographs are trivial to make and since the invention of the PC it
has been trivial to record, store and analyze seismic data.

Real time seismic data from around the world is publicly available
on the Internet from many government, academic, and private sources.

Such data is not controlled by anyone; not the media and not any
governmental agency.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html

<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#264911 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2015-08-24 05:47 +0200
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit
Message-ID<9a360155110142fc53e8f9d521321dc4@dizum.com>
In reply to#264897
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Rocky, in <news:mIqdnVlaf4Pv5UfInZ2dnUU7-I2dnZ2d@giganews.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> 
> wrote in message

>> It was diatomaceous earth, used to adsorb toxins and help in
>> the cleanup of those tons of friable asbestos.

> Th<SMACKAKOOK!>

After that embarrassment of a video you keep touting, you'd do well to
shut the fuck up. There was *no* radiological decontamination going on
in any of the photos you showed in that stupid fucking video.

And I quote my previous post:
There was only "radiological cleanup" at the WTC site insofar as they 
needed to remove the trace amounts of tritium found in the rubble, 
which came from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapons 
sights, trace amounts of radium from industrial processes unrelated to 
nuclear weapons and *no* *other* radiation above background.

The video you provided of people washing off worker's boots with 
fucking garden hoses isn't radiological decontamination, you fucking 
tard. If there were any radiation at the WTC site, the workers would 
be in NBC suits or CBRN suits, with full-face forced air breathing. 
They'd be washing off in contained showers with catch basins to catch 
the runoff water... do you believe they'd let the nuclear-contaminated 
water just run back into the fucking ground? LOL

They most certainly would not have been wearing half-mask canister 
respirators, blue jeans, steel-toed boots, dungaree shirts and 
reflective vests, nor would they be wearing fucking Tyvek, you 
retarded loon. They were cleaning asbestos and other toxics off their 
shoes, they most certainly were not undergoing rad decon. LOL

And what the video k'lames is "volcanic glass detonation cavities" is 
actually whirlpool basins carved by water flowing underneath glaciers 
thousands of years ago... if it'd been "volcanic glass", the 
striations would be twisted and convoluted like two colors of glass 
mixed together, you'd see it all twisted up... not horizontal and 
layered like rock that'd been worn away by water in a whirlpool, which 
is what it is.

The truck you see being sprayed is merely ensuring its load is wet so 
it doesn't blow that friable asbestos out the back. You'll note the 
roll-over canvas cover at the front of the trailer... after the 
contents are wet down, that's rolled back and locked into place so 
shit doesn't blow out the back of the trailer. There was no 
"decontamination" taking place there at all, that's standard practice 
when hauling any loose material like sand, dirt, pulverized concrete, 
etc. If you'd ever held any fucking job whatsoever, instead of being a 
fucking unemployable mooch your whole life, you'd understand these 
sorts of things, you less than useless turd.

"Strict full decontamination efforts taken including the standard 
electrical taping of boots to prevent seeping of tritiated water into 
the soft soles of human feet. This is standard protocol when leaving 
ground zero."

BWAHAHAHAAAA! That's fucking retarded, nothing more than kook blather. 
If any radiation had been present, they wouldn't fucking be using 
electrical tape to keep water from seeping in to their fucking shoes, 
they'd be in hermetically sealed NBC or CBRN suits with forced-air 
full-face respirators, including rad boots. Let me guess, you made 
this delusional little embarrassment of a video, right? LOL

For fuck sake, wake the fuck up, you clueless clown. LOL

Your broken brain is spewing utter bullshit with no proof. Even worse, 
you're taking completely unrelated shit and trying to k'lame it's nuke 
related. LOL

Kook. LOL

>> And if it was under WTC3 (it wasn't, because no nukes were detonated
>> at the WTC site, no radiation associated with nukes was ever detected
>> anywhere in NYC

> RO<SMACKAKOOK!>

You're retarded.

Kook. LOL

>> no EMP was recorded

> A<SMACKAKOOK!>

As has already been explained to you, the WCBS video was nothing more
than satellite uplink interference, as happens from time to time, as
it happened 19 times in that very same video. You're fucking retarded.

Kook. LOL

>> no seismic signature of nukes

> A<SMACKAKOOK!>

The seismic signatures detected correlated exactly to when the central
column buckled and transmitted 1.5 million tons of shaking force into
the ground, you retarded fuckwit.

The only thing the seismic signatures *didn't* do was show there were
any nuclear detonation signatures *at* *all*.

Combine that with the fact that no radiation other than tritium from
the aircraft exit signs and LEO weapons sights and radium from
non-nuclear industrial processes *throughout* *the* *entire* *city*.

Combine that with the fact that an EMP would have *destroyed* all
cameras in a large area, thus there wouldn't have been any video from
inside the tower as it was collapsing or the immediate aftermath. And
those helicopters flying around would have all dropped out of the sky
at once. And all the vehicles in the area would have stopped working
forever, their ECUs burned out. And the electrical grid would have
burned out the substations and generating stations.

Combine that with the fact that no radiologically contaminated metal
was pulled from the rubble. Never before in history has a nuke been
detonated that didn't make the metal around it contaminated.

Combine that with the fact that you *still* have a discrepancy between
your k'lamed time of your k'lamed "EMP" (that caused *no* damage to
electronics, the first in history to do that), and the collapse of the
buildings. That's your unresolvable logic hole that keeps your broken
brain expanding your kooky little conspiracy theory.

IOW, you're a fucking retard. You have no proof, you're grasping at
straws and proving with each turn that *you* *are* *wrong*.

Take your meds, you idiotic insane idiot.

There's one way you can ascertain for certain whether nukes were
used... that large sculpture called The Sphere, by Fritz Koenig. It's
in Battery Park. Go test it for radioactivity. If it is contaminated,
I'll publicly admit I'm wrong. If it isn't contaminated, you'll shut
the fuck up, admit you're insane, and immediately consult a
psychiatric professional.

Kook. LOL

> Rocky

Now, get to addressing the 17 ways your kook conspiracy theory
violates the laws of physics:

======================================================
1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of
collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below
the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to
today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that
depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's
*why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al
Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human
history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep
Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep.

2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an
EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a
nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of
the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused
the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would
have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the
immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized
your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for
dozens of miles radius.

3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's
no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been
from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of
radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the
tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights
that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a
nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how
delusional you are.

4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or
anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>).
They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement
weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear
weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation.

5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be
sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people
in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed,
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2
MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were
buried.

6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron
source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay
byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it
decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon
poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger
being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any
sort of nuclear chain reaction.

7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it*
*was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical
support column and *NO* EMP:
======================
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo>
You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column
buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount
of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP.
======================

8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to
survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be
approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature
would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K?

9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a
hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding
rock.

10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic
taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of
satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were
detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects
were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft.

11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent
down to service those nukes (because now that you know the
neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a
periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire
facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the
technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with
"4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area
the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to
admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33
years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960
to 1840 degree heat?

12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>)
that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all
1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the
Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your
kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized"
(your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)?

13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic
signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC
site on 11 Sep 2001?

14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris
kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep
underground, Ko0K?

15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have
tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles
deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC
complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to
detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up
your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which
you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference
was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion
started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The
Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.).

16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes
(MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your
previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3
nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming
under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in
agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is?
While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps
(radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was
primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any
contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in
place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this
*still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed
"EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where
your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly
head again. LOL

17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your
"34 or more nukes" blather (you're now saying there were 65 nukes
(MID: <984122ddbf1e4e5d6f5a7b3f56eeeb6f@dizum.com>))... eventually,
your broken brain will be telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the
real city was blown up by
1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes
which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground
MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet
and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC
and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the
fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn
out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every
piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's
*proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL

Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back
on your meds, you delusional loon.
======================================================

There are now 17 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of
physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by
point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp
simple physics.

Kook. LOL

-- 

Rocky, your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting
*you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate
to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook
conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it
moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes.
Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent
nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot
"crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC
being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#264934 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-24 04:12 -0500
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list
Message-ID<WbmdnVQFqPKjfUfInZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#264911
"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> 
wrote in message news:9a360155110142fc53e8f9d521321dc4@dizum.com...
>
> After that embarrassment of a video you keep touting, you'd do well to
> shut the fuck up. There was *no* radiological decontamination going on
> in any of the photos you showed in that stupid fucking video.

ROTFLMFAO and that has got to be the funniest thing you have ever said.  <G>

I'll bet you didn't even bother to read the second screen in the following 
video.  <G>

Radiological Cleanup on ground zero - This video is dedicated to Dimitri 
Khalezov
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9npQPZh2po

Here, let me put it this way: If there were no nuclear detonations at Ground 
Zero then why was the NNSA all over Ground Zero?  NNSA?  See:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Nuclear_Security_Administration

And the biggest thing you missed was when they mentioned what Dr. Allison 
Geyh's job was a Ground Zero.  See 4:07 of the above video.

So, it doesn't really matter if there was any Radiological Cleanup in that 
video because what they were doing was far worse and that was to simply 
monitor how much radiation people were getting.  And I've seen one video 
where it even shows an alarm on a Geiger Counter going off.

And if you want to know more about Allison Geyh and her job with the NNSA 
just use the following link:
 https://www.google.com/search?q=alison+Geyh+%2B+NNSA

And you will probably see this in the list:
 http://911myths.com/html/dr_alison_geyh.html

And a quote from Alison where she states: "I personally saw open fires, 
glowing and twisted I-beams. I was told, but do not remember by whom, that 
the workers were finding molten steel. "

And that is consistent with someone that knows the molten steel was where 
the nukes were detonated so she wouldn't want to go there herself.  DUH.

So, now I have

1.  A photo of the hole made by the nuke that was detonated under WTC4 with 
the walls consistent with the spread pattern of that particular nuke.

2.  A photo of the remains of Ground Zero where the "Surviving Corners" can 
only be caused by deep underground nukes.

3.  A video clip that shows a mushroom cloud and another smoke pattern that 
are both consistent with nukes.

4.  A site that proves they covered the hypocenter that was on the north 
side of WTC3 with special dirt.

5.  A video from WCBS that just happened to record the EMP from the blast 
that shook the North Tower 12 seconds before it was vaporized.

6.  An inconsistent seismic reading that missed the 12 seconds of no shaking 
of the North Tower putting the seismic readings in doubt.

7.  And with the first video above proof that the NNSA was all over Nuke 
York City to help cover-up the fact that nukes were detonated there.  BTW 
the First Responders were told the badges they had to wear were to monitor 
air quality but they were really dosimeter badges.

8   And proof that NIST was a sack of shit just like you Friendly 
Neighborhood Nut with the following:

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#264939 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list

From"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@sci.physics.cunt.scabs>
Date2015-08-25 10:45 +0000
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list
Message-ID<Mon.Aug.2015.10.45.10.485@misc.free.breasts.pus-filled.and.lesioned>
In reply to#264934
On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:13:34 -0500 in
<WbmdnVQFqPKjfUfInZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com>, Rocky <wookiee@att.net>
disconnected their puny berries and carped:

> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus"
> <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx wrote in message
> news:9a360155110142fc53e8f9d521321dc4@dizum.com...
>>
>> After that embarrassment of a video you keep touting, you'd do well
>> to shut the fuck up. There was *no* radiological decontamination
>> going on in any of the photos you showed in that stupid fucking
>> video.
>
> ROTFLMFAO and that has got to be the funniest thing you have ever
> said.  <G
>
> I'll bet you didn't even bother to read the second screen in the
> following video.  <G
>
> Radiological Cleanup on ground zero - This video is dedicated to
> Dimitri Khalezov   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9npQPZh2po
>
> Here, let me put it this way: If there were no nuclear detonations at
> Ground Zero then why was the NNSA all over Ground Zero?  NNSA?  See:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Nuclear_Security_Administration

Given the nature of the event, they were probably there in case the
lunatics who flew the planes into the towers were carrying 'dirty
bombs', you utterly stupid cunt.

> And the biggest thing you missed was when they mentioned what Dr.
> Allison Geyh's job was a Ground Zero.  See 4:07 of the above video.
>
> So, it doesn't really matter if there was any Radiological Cleanup in
> that video because what they were doing was far worse and that was to
> simply monitor how much radiation people were getting.  And I've seen
> one video where it even shows an alarm on a Geiger Counter going off.
>
> And if you want to know more about Allison Geyh and her job with the
> NNSA just use the following link:
> https://www.google.com/search?q=alison+Geyh+%2B+NNSA
>
> And you will probably see this in the list:
>   http://911myths.com/html/dr_alison_geyh.html
>
> And a quote from Alison where she states: "I personally saw open
> fires, glowing and twisted I-beams. I was told, but do not remember by
> whom, that the workers were finding molten steel. "
>
> And that is consistent with someone that knows the molten steel was
> where the nukes were detonated so she wouldn't want to go there
> herself.  DUH.

LMFAO

> So, now I have
>
> 1.  A photo of the hole made by the nuke that was detonated under WTC4
> with the walls consistent with the spread pattern of that particular
> nuke.
>
> 2.  A photo of the remains of Ground Zero where the "Surviving
> Corners" can only be caused by deep underground nukes.
>
> 3.  A video clip that shows a mushroom cloud and another smoke pattern
> that are both consistent with nukes.
>
> 4.  A site that proves they covered the hypocenter that was on the
> north side of WTC3 with special dirt.
>
> 5.  A video from WCBS that just happened to record the EMP from the
> blast that shook the North Tower 12 seconds before it was vaporized.
>
> 6.  An inconsistent seismic reading that missed the 12 seconds of no
> shaking of the North Tower putting the seismic readings in doubt.
>
> 7.  And with the first video above proof that the NNSA was all over
> Nuke York City to help cover-up the fact that nukes were detonated
> there.  BTW the First Responders were told the badges they had to wear
> were to monitor air quality but they were really dosimeter badges.
>
> 8   And proof that NIST was a sack of shit just like you Friendly
> Neighborhood Nut with the following:
>
> The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W


--  
Straks vind ik je nog een opgeblazen illegale lesbie.

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#264948 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-24 08:11 -0500
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list
Message-ID<fvudnYkvjbivhUbInZ2dnUU7-UWdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#264939
24h.hd removed

"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@sci.physics.cunt.scabs> wrote in 
message 
news:Mon.Aug.2015.10.45.10.485@misc.free.breasts.pus-filled.and.lesioned...
> On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 04:13:34 -0500 in
> <WbmdnVQFqPKjfUfInZ2dnUU7-audnZ2d@giganews.com>, Rocky <wookiee@att.net>
> disconnected their puny berries and carped:
>
>> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus"
>> <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx wrote in message
>> news:9a360155110142fc53e8f9d521321dc4@dizum.com...
>>>
>>> After that embarrassment of a video you keep touting, you'd do well
>>> to shut the fuck up. There was *no* radiological decontamination
>>> going on in any of the photos you showed in that stupid fucking
>>> video.
>>
>> ROTFLMFAO and that has got to be the funniest thing you have ever
>> said.  <G
>>
>> I'll bet you didn't even bother to read the second screen in the
>> following video.  <G
>>
>> Radiological Cleanup on ground zero - This video is dedicated to
>> Dimitri Khalezov   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9npQPZh2po
>>
>> Here, let me put it this way: If there were no nuclear detonations at
>> Ground Zero then why was the NNSA all over Ground Zero?  NNSA?  See:
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Nuclear_Security_Administration
>
> Given the nature of the event, they were probably there in case the
> lunatics who flew the planes into the towers were carrying 'dirty
> bombs', you utterly stupid cunt.

Oh Rick, you are as blind as the other Television Set Lovers around here. 
All you had to do to see what the NNSA was doing at GZ was read the part on 
the screen at 4:07 in the video listed above.

But that part failed to mention anything about the NNSA would only allow 
people to work at GZ so many hours a day too.

And if you want to see another place the USA has lied about how much 
radiation was in a certain area check out the following.  (sorry I can't 
post the link from straightdope but it is so long I don't want to chance it)
"If nuclear fallout lasts thousands of years, how did Hiroshima and Nagasaki 
recover so quickly?"

>> And the biggest thing you missed was when they mentioned what Dr.
>> Allison Geyh's job was a Ground Zero.  See 4:07 of the above video.
>>
>> So, it doesn't really matter if there was any Radiological Cleanup in
>> that video because what they were doing was far worse and that was to
>> simply monitor how much radiation people were getting.  And I've seen
>> one video where it even shows an alarm on a Geiger Counter going off.
>>
>> And if you want to know more about Allison Geyh and her job with the
>> NNSA just use the following link:
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=alison+Geyh+%2B+NNSA
>>
>> And you will probably see this in the list:
>>   http://911myths.com/html/dr_alison_geyh.html
>>
>> And a quote from Alison where she states: "I personally saw open
>> fires, glowing and twisted I-beams. I was told, but do not remember by
>> whom, that the workers were finding molten steel. "
>>
>> And that is consistent with someone that knows the molten steel was
>> where the nukes were detonated so she wouldn't want to go there
>> herself.  DUH.
>
> LMFAO

FYI the guy that is the head of "Controlled Demolitions INC" said about the 
exact same thing after his visit to GZ.

>> So, now I have
>>
>> 1.  A photo of the hole made by the nuke that was detonated under WTC4
>> with the walls consistent with the spread pattern of that particular
>> nuke.
>>
>> 2.  A photo of the remains of Ground Zero where the "Surviving
>> Corners" can only be caused by deep underground nukes.
>>
>> 3.  A video clip that shows a mushroom cloud and another smoke pattern
>> that are both consistent with nukes.
>>
>> 4.  A site that proves they covered the hypocenter that was on the
>> north side of WTC3 with special dirt.
>>
>> 5.  A video from WCBS that just happened to record the EMP from the
>> blast that shook the North Tower 12 seconds before it was vaporized.
>>
>> 6.  An inconsistent seismic reading that missed the 12 seconds of no
>> shaking of the North Tower putting the seismic readings in doubt.
>>
>> 7.  And with the first video above proof that the NNSA was all over
>> Nuke York City to help cover-up the fact that nukes were detonated
>> there.  BTW the First Responders were told the badges they had to wear
>> were to monitor air quality but they were really dosimeter badges.
>>
>> 8   And proof that NIST was a sack of shit just like you Friendly
>> Neighborhood Nut with the following:
>>
>> The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W
>

Rocky 

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#264983 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-24 16:38 +0000
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list
Message-ID<astrac-9ib.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#264948
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> Oh Rick, you are as blind as the other Television Set Lovers around here. 
> All you had to do to see what the NNSA was doing at GZ was read the part on 
> the screen at 4:07 in the video listed above.

No one knew whether or not there was any radiation until someone
checked, kook.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs as the slight disturbances (less than 2 on the
Richter scale) that rational people would expect from such events.

A 1 kiloton explosion registers at about 4 on the Richter scale, a
fact that is widely known and trivial to verify.

Seismographs are trivial to make and since the invention of the PC it
has been trivial to record, store and analyze seismic data.

Real time seismic data from around the world is publicly available
on the Internet from many government, academic, and private sources.

Such data is not controlled by anyone; not the media and not any
governmental agency.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html

<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#264944 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-24 08:00 -0500
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list
Message-ID<_6OdnVSuP94WiEbInZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#264934
added alt.conspiracy

"gilber34" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message 
news:mrf0i7$fgn$1@speranza.aioe.org...
> On 8/24/2015 4:12 AM, Rocky wrote:
>>
>> Here, let me put it this way: If there were no nuclear detonations at 
>> Ground
>> Zero then why was the NNSA all over Ground Zero?  NNSA?  See:
>
> wrong question,  if nuke, why NO radiation anywhere ?

But obviously nukes were detonated at Ground Zero or the NNSA wouldn't have 
been at Ground Zero.  DUH.  NNSA?  See:
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Nuclear_Security_Administration

Besides, with the right detonator you could have a "clean" nuke you clown. 
And after they buried the places where the nukes were detonated with 
concrete that should work a lot like the concrete they buried parts of 
Chernobyl in.


>> And the biggest thing you missed was when they mentioned what Dr. Allison
>> Geyh's job was a Ground Zero.
>>
>> So, it doesn't really matter if there was any Radiological Cleanup in 
>> that
>> video because what they were doing was far worse and that was to simply
>> monitor how much radiation people were getting.  And I've seen one video
>> where it even shows an alarm on a Geiger Counter going off.
>
> so your "evidence" is that "you saw some video on the internet that has a 
> geiger  counter going off".

Don't forget, not only was Alision Geyh checking dosimeter badges but she 
had to keep track of how long people worked at Ground Zero each day too.


> and you cannot "clean up" radiation spills or nuke radiation, the area 
> remains radioactive for hundreds of years, easily detectable.

You aren't thinking.  That only happens if there is no immediate action and 
as I've proven earlier the place under WTC3 where the nuke was detonated 
that vaporized the North Tower was covered in some sort of special black 
dirt.

And I've seen a clip showing over 100 dumptrucks filled with something going 
to Ground Zero on the night of 9/11/01.

As a matter of fact part of the clean up of Ground Zero was moving old dirt 
out and fresh dirt in so obviously they were doing more than just moving 
debris out.  DUH.

And not only were cameras not allowed at Ground Zero but they would really 
throw a fuss if someone showed up with a Geiger Counter.  I wonder if that 
happened after the alarm on one or more Geiger Counters went off and people 
started asking questions.  <G>


>> And a quote from Alison where she states: "I personally saw open fires,
>> glowing and twisted I-beams. I was told, but do not remember by whom, 
>> that
>> the workers were finding molten steel. "
>>
>> And that is consistent with someone that knows the molten steel was where
>> the nukes were detonated so she wouldn't want to go there herself.  DUH.
>
> she would be *dead* by radiation, dude.  you remain moron.

You are the moron and you are a rather big moron too because if you had 
checked out 4:07 of the following video you would have seen how Alision 
died.  DUH.

Radiological Cleanup on ground zero - This video is dedicated to Dimitri
Khalezov
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9npQPZh2po

> you have NO Radiation, no nuke.

Too bad the NNSA was only at GZ because of nuclear detonations.  <G>

AND you should read the article about:
"If nuclear fallout lasts thousands of years, how did Hiroshima and Nagasaki 
recover so quickly?"

Because it proves even back then the USA was trying to lie about how much 
radiation there was at that nuclear detonation too.  <G>

And again, if NIST can be caught in lie after lie after lie about their 
"hypothetical" "Collapse Initiation" why not other government agencies too? 
See:

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#264977 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-24 11:18 -0500
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list
Message-ID<mrfg56$o7c$2@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#264944
<snip crap>

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#264984 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list

Fromjimp@specsol.spam.sux.com
Date2015-08-24 16:39 +0000
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list
Message-ID<0vtrac-9ib.ln1@mail.specsol.com>
In reply to#264944
In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

> But obviously nukes were detonated at Ground Zero or the NNSA wouldn't have 
> been at Ground Zero.  DUH.  NNSA?  See:

Obviously someone had to check out the possiblility of there being
radiation, but none was found, kook.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs as the slight disturbances (less than 2 on the
Richter scale) that rational people would expect from such events.

A 1 kiloton explosion registers at about 4 on the Richter scale, a
fact that is widely known and trivial to verify.

Seismographs are trivial to make and since the invention of the PC it
has been trivial to record, store and analyze seismic data.

Real time seismic data from around the world is publicly available
on the Internet from many government, academic, and private sources.

Such data is not controlled by anyone; not the media and not any
governmental agency.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html

<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#264989 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list

FromFriendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
Date2015-08-24 19:06 +0200
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN + My list
Message-ID<43acc7488b179f3bfea83ef7076f92b9@dizum.com>
In reply to#264944
Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Rocky, in <news:_6OdnVSuP94WiEbInZ2dnUU7-SGdnZ2d@giganews.com> did
thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> "gilber34" <invalid@invalid.com> wrote in message 
> news:mrf0i7$fgn$1@speranza.aioe.org...

>> On 8/24/2015 4:12 AM, Rocky wrote:

>>> Here, let me put it this way: If there were no nuclear detonations at 
>>> Ground
>>> Zero then why was the NNSA all over Ground Zero?  NNSA?  See:

>> wrong question,  if nuke, why NO radiation anywhere ?

> But obviously nukes were detonated at Ground Zero or the NNSA wouldn't have 
> been at Ground Zero<SMACKAKOOK!>

The NNSA was also at the Boston Marathon bombing, and every potential
terrorist attack site before and since, you fucking kook. Can you
think of a reason they'd do that?

Fodder for your paranoid brain... the NNSA was at the Boston Marathon
*before* the bombs went off. So now your broken brain *must* tell you
that there *were* nukes at the Boston Marathon, that NNSA *knew* what
was going to happen, and therefore the NNSA *is* *the* *one*
*detonating* *them*... *everywhere!* THERE'S NUKES DETONATING
EVERYWHERE AND THE NNSA IS DOING IT!!!!!!

Do you see how fucking insane you sound, you paranoid kook? LOL

Kook. LOL

> Besides, with the right detonator you could have a "clean" nuke you clown. 

Bwahahahahahahahahaaaa! No.

Kook. LOL

> A<SMACKAKOOK!>

The rest of your paranoid delusional blather isn't even worth the
electrons it's printed on, you less than worthless submoron.

Kook. LOL

> Rocky

Now, get to addressing the 17 ways your kook conspiracy theory
violates the laws of physics:

======================================================
1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of
collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep below
the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to drill to
today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact that at that
depth, the temperature is so high things like metal *melt*. That's
*why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636 miles of the Al
Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole *ever* dug in human
history)... the equipment fails. That's why the Kola Superdeep
Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep.

2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the WCBS video *you* provided wasn't an
EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd been a
nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond time frame of
the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP) would have caused
the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount of shielding would
have been sufficient to prevent that. That there is video of the
immediate aftermath proves there was no nuke, especially one sized
your claimed 150 kt, which would have destroyed all electronics for
dozens of miles radius.

3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that there's
no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke. If it had been
from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have shown high levels of
radioactivity for decades. It was found to be beta radiation from the
tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement weapon sights
that was the source. That you're gullible enough not to know that a
nuke would spread radiation far and wide is testament to how
delusional you are.

4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex or
anywhere in NYC (MID: <e62c14c89ab831a63f27243e265c711a@dizum.com>).
They found tritium from the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement
weapons sites, radium from industrial sources unrelated to nuclear
weapons and background levels for all other sources of radiation.

5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be
sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by people
in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you k'lamed,
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the order of 2
MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame the bombs were
buried.

6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron
source. It naturally radioactively decays over time, and its decay
byproducts, the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it
decays, include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon
poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger
being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start any
sort of nuclear chain reaction.

7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as* *it*
*was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling vertical
support column and *NO* EMP:
======================
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo>
You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column
buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No amount
of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP.
======================

8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going to
survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would be
approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the temperature
would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K?

9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through a
hole without any of the compressive blast going out into surrounding
rock.

10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic
taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of
satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were
detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill effects
were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or aircraft.

11) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel you claim were sent
down to service those nukes (because now that you know the
neutron-source triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a
periodic basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire
facility at 37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the
technology to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with
"4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area
the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced to
admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched for 33
years and maintained their viability) are supposed to survive in 960
to 1840 degree heat?

12) You admitted (MID:<ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com>)
that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers (all
1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked off to the
Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your admission with your
kook blather that significant percentages of the buildings "vaporized"
(your word) and "floated toward Europe" (your words)?

13) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic
signatures for these 19 nukes you k'lame were detonated at the WTC
site on 11 Sep 2001?

14) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris
kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep
underground, Ko0K?

15) Explain how the 19 nukes you claimed to have existed could have
tunneled holes from the underground installation 37.28 to 96.93 miles
deep that you claimed to have existed, to directly under the WTC
complex... in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to
detonating directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up
your timing between the detonations you claim took place (for which
you used the WCBS video, claiming the satellite uplink interference
was "EMP") and the collapses, leading you back to where your delusion
started. Congratulations, Dimwit, you've made the full circuit on The
Island of Insanity. Now go 'round again.).

16) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes
(MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to your
previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously k'lamed 3
nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain is squirming
under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality, screaming in
agony at its being forced to see just how delusional it truly is?
While you're at it, get to explaining how the regular rad sweeps
(radiological surveys) at the twin towers (because the space was
primarily rented by government agencies) showed no nukes or any
contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes were obtained and put in
place without drawing any attention whatsoever. Of course, this
*still* fucks up your timing between the detonations (ie: your claimed
"EMP" on the WCBS video) and the collapses, leading you back to where
your delusion started... that unresolvable logic hole rears its ugly
head again. LOL

17) Your broken brain is yet again expanding your delusion with your
"34 or more nukes" blather (you're now saying there were 65 nukes
(MID: <984122ddbf1e4e5d6f5a7b3f56eeeb6f@dizum.com>))... eventually,
your broken brain will be telling you that NYC today is a CGI and the
real city was blown up by
1,592,629,490,173,371,449,138,916,004,581,949 intelligent nano-nukes
which autonomously dug their way up from their secret underground
MoleMan base 15,682,941 miles below the surface of our hollow planet
and attached themselves to every steel part of every building in NYC
and vaporized them and they all floated down to MoleVille, and the
fact that the EMP from all those nukes detonating at once didn't burn
out every electrical generating station, electrical substation, every
piece of electronic equipment, every vehicle, every aircraft... that's
*proof* that NYC is a CGI today! LOL

Do you see how utterly ridiculous you're beginning to sound? Get back
on your meds, you delusional loon.
======================================================

There are now 17 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the laws of
physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each one, point by
point, or people are gonna know you're just a retard who can't grasp
simple physics.

Kook. LOL

-- 

Rocky, your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid admitting
*you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and more desperate
to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly demolishes your kook
conspiracy theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the WCBS video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you they
must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a simpleton, you
believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the nukes in, smoothed
over the concrete and walked away for 33 years.

B) Your timing on the WCBS video *you* *provided* between the
satellite uplink interference (what you deemed to be a "nuke EMP") and
the tower falling being 12 seconds (it was actually 14 seconds, but
kooks can't count) means your supposed nukes had to have been buried
from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* below the surface (dependent upon soil
composition and thus speed of compressive blast transmission). Never
mind that we don't have the technology to drill that deep even today,
let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to yet again change your
kooky little conspiracy theory to at least try to orient itself at
some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a shallow hole, dropped the
nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years" anymore, now it was
"dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require periodic
replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which naturally
radioactively decays over time, building up the decay byproduct xenon,
which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon poisoning. So your broken
brain told you that someone had to service those nukes to keep the
triggers viable... which means your broken brain was thus *forced* to
change from "dug a shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up,
walked away for 33 years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped
the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an
entire *facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back
into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain then said there were 19 nukes instead of your
original 3, because you knew there were 19 instances of satellite
uplink interference in the WCBS video *you* *provided*, in which you
k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink interference was an
EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP, they *all* must be EMPs,
so your broken brain now tells you there were 19 nukes detonated in
rapid succession... completely ignoring the fact that even one nuke
detonation would plunge the city into darkness due to EMP burning out
electrical substations, and completely ignoring the fact that no
nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble, in the
vicinity of the rubble, or anywhere in NYC.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were buried
deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius, which screwed up
your kooky k'lame that they were used to demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but
somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so your broken brain conceived that
the nuclear weapons could somehow dig themselves up from that
miles-deep facility to just below the WTC towers prior to exploding,
in order to make their cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that
your broken brain said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of
*solid* *bedrock* in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs your
broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up to
underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they didn't... first
because there were no nukes, second because it'd be impossible, but
for the sake of argument, we'll continue), that leads right back to
your calculation of the time between your claimed "EMP" (the satellite
uplink interference on the WCBS video *you* *provided*) and the time
the buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So I've
proven by drop-kicking your retarded ass around the perimeter of
sanity full-circle that you're insane. LOL

G) Realizing the utter ridiculousness of your kook blather above, your
broken brain has backpedaled and expanded your delusion even more as a
desperate attempt at attaining some semblance of plausibility...
saying there were 34 mini-nukes, and they were within and underneath
the twin towers. If those 34 nukes you claim existed *did* explode,
where are the nuclear detonation byproducts? The highly radioactive
metal? The radiation burns and radiation sickness of people in the
vicinity? Where are the nuclear detonation signature seismographs? Why
did the electrical grid, all electronics and all vehicles survive not
just one but *34* nuclear EMPs? And what about that timing between the
WCBS video satellite uplink interference (what you claimed was "EMP")
and the shaking and collapse of the tower? That's now off by 14 whole
seconds, just as it was when your kooky conspiracy theory began. LOL

H) Your brain becoming more and more broken, in just one short day it
moved from G) above to now telling you there are *more* than 34 nukes.
Where does your broken brain stop, Ko0k? Billions of intelligent
nano-nukes covering every metal surface of the twin towers? Robot
"crisis actors" able to withstand the extreme radiation? All of NYC
being blow up, replaced by a CGI that we all are fooled by today? LOL

I) Now your broken brain is back to k'laming the supposed nukes were
50 meters below the twin towers, instead of the 37.28 to 96.93 *miles*
you've k'lamed previously? Your poor broken brain is scrambling like
mad trying to come up with some way of making your retarded little
conspiracy theory have even an iota of plausibility... but you've yet
again run into your unresolvable logic hole. If, as you k'lame, these
nukes that you k'lame existed *were* buried 50 meters under the twin
towers (they weren't, but we're humoring a fucking retard... that's
you, ShortBus... so we'll continue) then the timing between your
k'lamed "EMP" (the satellite uplink interference) in the WCBS video
and the time the towers fell is now off by approximately 14 seconds.
Your *only* option is to make these 50 meter deep nukes you k'lame
existed dig their way *down* 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep prior to
exploding. At least then, they'd have a hole through which to direct
their explosion, right? LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality, so you've caught yourself in an unresolvable logic hole. And
the harder you try to resolve it, the more you run around in little
tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing your very
best Rainman impersonation. I can twist your brain into a Gordian Knot
with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I haven't even
worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#264998 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN

From"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net>
Date2015-08-24 12:54 -0500
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN
Message-ID<34qdnVQp9chOxEbInZ2dnUU7-QGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
In reply to#264989
"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> 
wrote in message news:43acc7488b179f3bfea83ef7076f92b9@dizum.com...
>
> The NNSA was also at the Boston Marathon bombing, and every potential
> terrorist attack site before and since, you fucking kook. Can you
> think of a reason they'd do that?

Were they also giving people dosimeter badges there too?  I doubt it.

And did any of them die later from leukemia?  I doubt that too.

And the funniest part about you is even after the EPA was caught in a big 
lie about the air quality in Nuke York City is your complete failure to 
address the fact that NIST gave us complete and udder bullshit about their 
"Hypothetical Collapse Initiation."  See:

The Questionable Collapse Initiation Sequence is:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zvCuMULutHs&list=PLm5UJ3igmxaIBJw8yvK1-a9H_11kBDS8W

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#265065 — Re: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN

Fromgilber34 <invalid@invalid.com>
Date2015-08-24 20:19 -0500
SubjectRe: Caught Friendly Neighborhood Nut in plenty of bullshit AGAIN
Message-ID<mrgfrh$5ft$4@speranza.aioe.org>
In reply to#264998
On 8/24/2015 12:54 PM, Rocky wrote:
> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>
> wrote in message news:43acc7488b179f3bfea83ef7076f92b9@dizum.com...
>>
<snip lies>

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