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  The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-21 17:22 -0500
    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse burfordtjustice <burford@uk.mo> - 2015-08-21 18:54 -0400
    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-21 22:56 +0000
    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse gilber34 <invalid@invalid.com> - 2015-08-21 18:59 -0500
    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse David <lerraf@mail.com> - 2015-08-21 20:48 -0400
      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 11:46 +1000
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 04:05 -0500
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 09:20 -0500
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Justin Tyme" <justin_tyme_2003@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 19:26 -0500
          Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:58 -0500
          Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Shoe-Chucker 2 <georgewk10@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-26 02:32 -0700
      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 04:03 -0500
    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-22 06:44 +0200
      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-22 11:48 -0400
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-22 18:47 +0200
          Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-22 15:08 -0400
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-22 21:46 +0200
              Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:06 -0500
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:54 -0700
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 04:07 +0200
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:21 +0000
              Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "\"Fakey's\" dogwhistle holder living at 5907 Stanton Ave., Pittsburgh, PA (aka Teh Mop  Jockey), socked up as 5907 Stanton Avenue, Pittsburgh, PA 15206-2117" <root@127.0.0.1> - 2015-08-23 03:59 -0400
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 17:43 +0200
      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 12:04 -0500
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-22 17:23 +0000
          Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 19:44 -0500
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:23 +0000
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:43 -0500
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse benj <nobody@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 14:36 -0400
          Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 19:54 -0500
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:54 -0700
              Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:53 -0500
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 19:01 -0700
                  Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 21:02 -0500
                    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 19:49 -0700
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:26 +0000
                  ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 05:42 -0500
                    Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 04:07 -0700
                      2 je suis charly was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 14:52 -0500
                        Re: 2 je suis charly was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 13:28 -0700
                        Re: 2 je suis charly was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 20:20 +0000
                    Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 12:15 +0100
                      Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 07:23 -0500
                        seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 07:35 -0500
                          Re: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 08:42 -0500
                            Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked)) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 09:05 -0500
                              Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 18:03 +0100
                                T-annoy the pain keeps keeps the bullshit going (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent ) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 12:53 -0500
                                  Re: T-annoy the pain keeps keeps the bullshit going jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 18:19 +0000
                                  Re: T-annoy the pain keeps keeps the bullshit going Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 21:33 +0100
                              Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 17:13 +0000
                              Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked)) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:04 -0500
                                Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked)) "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 14:18 -0500
                                  Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 19:50 +0000
                                    Jim the bullshitter keeps bullshitting "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-23 15:28 -0500
                                      Re: Jim the bullshitter keeps bullshitting jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 20:40 +0000
                                      Re: Jim the bullshitter keeps bullshitting je suis charly <charlie-gordon1492@no.where> - 2015-08-23 14:20 -0700
                                  Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 21:33 +0100
                                    Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 04:08 -0500
                                  Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent (was: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked)) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 04:03 -0500
                                Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-08-23 21:33 +0100
                          Re: seismic evidence is inconsistent jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 17:11 +0000
                    Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:46 -0500
                    Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 17:08 +0000
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:45 -0500
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:24 +0000
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:44 -0500
              Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 05:09 -0700
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 08:40 -0500
                  Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 09:36 -0700
                    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 14:07 -0500
                      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 13:03 -0700
                  Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-08-24 11:59 -0400
                    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-24 12:39 -0700
                      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Checkmate <Lunatic.Fringe@The.Edge> - 2015-08-24 18:44 -0700
                    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 19:57 -0500
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-22 21:35 +0200
          Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 19:41 -0500
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 17:55 -0700
              Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:13 -0500
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "%" <persent@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 18:55 -0700
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 03:44 +0200
              Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:50 -0500
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> - 2015-08-23 05:18 +0200
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:29 +0000
                Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:45 -0500
            Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:28 +0000
    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Ming Tiggle" <none@nomail.com> - 2015-08-21 21:52 -0700
      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 05:12 -0500
    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Ming Tiggle" <none@nomail.com> - 2015-08-21 21:53 -0700
      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 09:55 -0500
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 12:54 -0500
    Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-22 05:11 -0500
      Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-08-22 20:21 -0500
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com - 2015-08-23 05:30 +0000
        Re: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 06:44 -0500

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#264828 — Re: Kent the bullshitter keeps bullshitting (was: seismic evidence is inconsistent

On 23/08/2015 20:04, K Wills (Shill #3) wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 09:05:05 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:2djjtalggfqkvfl5u2us1pu43d4h0qtued@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 07:35:49 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:roejtalvjnnbv3hiuv81trbmhlc4jmmhrd@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 12:15:36 +0100, Tony Dragon
>>>>> <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/08/2015 11:42, Rocky wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Why have you not replied about the lack of seismic signature?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this yet another question that you refuse to answer?
>>>>>
>>>>>      Rocky is trying to claim everyone lied about the readings.
>>>>>      Because, you know, the people who monitor seismographs in China
>>>>> would naturally lie to help the U.S.
>>>>
>>>> We have video evidence that the North Tower shook for a few seconds then
>>>> it
>>>> stopped shaking and then about 12 seconds later it started to fall and
>>>> where
>>>> is that in the seismic evidence?  FYI for some reason fact and fiction to
>>>> not line up again.  <G>
>>>>
>>>
>>>      Local seismographs recorded the shaking of the ground when the
>>> towers collapsed. This is not a secret.
>>
>> And yet you can't point to it?
>
>       You've yet to point to a single seismograph that recorded any
> nuclear explosions on 9/11/2001.
>
>> Looks like more Kent Bullshit to me.
>>
>
>       Who is this Kent person about whom you are so obsessed?
>

Superman, perhaps?

>> And don't forget NIST could not explain why the remains of the Twin Towers
>> did not resemble a "Pancake collapse" so they were forced to quit using the
>> term "pancake collapse"
>
>       The term was in regards to each floor falling onto the one
> bellow. And it was the media that used the term. NIST used the term
> progressive collapse.
>       What compels you to lie about such things?
>
>> and then they simply went from a collapse initiation
>> to a "Global Collapse" and never tried to address why there was so little
>> debris at the base of the Twin Towers.  <G>
>
>       Most of the debris was found in the sub levels and bath tub. Old
> news. But you are intellectually unable to accept the truth.
>       What is most sad, is that I don't mean that as an insult.
>
>>
>> Oh, but you think you can address the lack of debris at the base of the Twin
>> Towers and I'll bet you will never try knowing exactly how NIST got around
>> that issue.  <G>
>>
>
>       Since there was no lack of debris, there was nothing to get
> around.
>
>> And don't forget how the Ediot from alt.conspiracy tried to explain the lack
>> of debris at the base of the Twin Towers.  The Ediot from alt.conspiracy
>> claimed the shaking by the jet weakened them.  ROTFLMAO
>
>       Direct quote and MID. Unless, of course, you're lying.
>
>>
>> The only way you will ever be able to figure out what really happened on
>> 9/11 is if you track down why there were so many inconsistencies with the
>> media bullshit about 9/11.
>
>       In the early hours there was a lot of confusion. Some of what was
> reported was wrong. This doesn't mean there were any inconsistencies.
> Not to the educated mind.
>


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#264749 — Re: seismic evidence is inconsistent

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> We have video evidence that the North Tower shook for a few seconds then it 
> stopped shaking and then about 12 seconds later it started to fall and where 
> is that in the seismic evidence?  FYI for some reason fact and fiction to 
> not line up again.  <G>

The collapse of the buildings show up in nearby seismic recordings, kook.

A nuclear explosion would have pegged the equipment, kook.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html

<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#264677 — Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked (was: The wings folded back like a birds wings going into a birdhouse)

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:42:55 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

>
><jimp@specsol.spam.sux.com> wrote in message 
>news:u42oac-n4t.ln1@mail.specsol.com...
>> In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
>>
>>> And the people that convinced me deep underground nukes and CGIs were 
>>> used
>>> at Ground Zero.  DUH
>>
>> Are just as batshit crazy as you are, kook.
>
>And yet it is you who has never been able to address what tell tale signs 
>are in the following:
>  http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>

     You seem obsessed with linking to a picture the proves your
claims wrong. Why is that?

>> When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
>> signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.
>
>Ok so explain why the remains of the Twin Towers look like they were 
>vaporized by two deep underground nukes.  See:
>  http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>

     The picture is proof that the buildings fell as a result of an
uncontrolled collapse.

>From a video posted by the Friendly Neighborhood Nut we know the North Tower 
>shook violently, stopped shaking for around 12 seconds and then started it's 
>trip down.  Where is that series of events on those seismograph readings?
>
>Since photographic evidence give us tell tale signs that they were nuked 
>there are only three possibilitys.:
>

     There is no such photographic evidence.

>1.  The people with the seismographs lied   That is what I suspected.
>

     So everyone with access to a seismograph all over the world all
chose to lie?
     Do you have any idea how crazy such a claim is?

>2.  With all the testing of undergroun nukes done by the USA they learned 
>how to fool the seismographs making you a LIAR.
>

     There is no way to fool a seismograph. 

>3.  Or a deep underground nuke leaves a different signature completely.  It 
>is very hard to tell from the readings you show where the building shook for 
>a few seconds and than sat for 12 seconds and then started to fall.
>

     Your most recent claim, as far as I am aware, is that the nukes
were only about 37 meters below the surface. To the educated mind, 37
meters is not deep.

>> This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.
>
>And on the other hand the following is clear evidence that two deep 
>underground nukes were used on the Twin Towers.  <G>
>  http://www.veteranstoday.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/blast3.jpeg
>

     The picture proves NO nukes were used.

>>
>> http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
>
>ROTFLMAO because that site proves it is screwed up right off the bat.  It 
>states: "were able to determine accurate times of the plane impacts and 
>building collapses."  They should get real because real jets don't have 
>disappearing wings but 3D CGIs do.
>

     No planes had a wing that disappeared. I was able to PROVE your
claim that one did to be the lie it was, and is. The best part is I
used the video you linked to.

>> http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html
>
>We already know from videos taken of the Twin Towers that they shook for a 
>few seconds stopped shaking for about 12 seconds then started their way 
>down.  Where is the video taken of the North Tower represened by the 
>seismograph readings?  <G>

     There was a local reading of 2.3. This wasn't due to any nukes,
of course. it was the result of the ground shaking due to the
uncontrolled collapse of the towers.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#264748 — Re: ? 4 Jim about why the Twin Towers look like they were nuked

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
> And yet it is you who has never been able to address what tell tale signs 
> are in the following:

Nuclear exposions leave giant, fucking enormous signs, not "tell tale"
signs, you babbling kook.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html

Note especially that there were no nuclear seismic signatures detected
on 9/11 by ANY seismograph ANYWHERE in the world but the collapse of the
two towers as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania
WERE detected by nearby seismographs.

 
<snip remaining kook babble>


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#264676

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 20:53:52 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

[...]

>> but you're the only one that thinks so
>
>And the people that convinced me deep underground nukes and CGIs were used 
>at Ground Zero.  DUH

     But there were no nukes or CGIs. You've proved this more times
than I care to count.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#264639

In sci.physics Rocky <wookiee@att.net> wrote:
 
<snip kook babble> 
 
> As for the Nukes and the CGIs.  I am calling it like I see it.  The remains 
> of the Twin Towers prove something vaporized them from below and not above 
> and the wing that fades in and out on the alleged Flight 175 could only be 
> recreated exactly by using 3D software.

When a nuclear device explodes, it creates a huge and unique seismic
signature that can be detected by a seismograph anywhere on the planet.

There were no nuclear seismic signatures detected on 9/11 by any
seismograph anywhere in the world but the collapse of the two towers
as well as the crashes at the Pentagon and in Pennsylvania were detected
by nearby seismographs.

This alone is enough to disprove any nuclear devices were used on 9/11.

http://911research.wtc7.net/mirrors/guardian2/wtc/seismic/WTC_PENT_KIM.htm
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/evidence/seismic.html


-- 
Jim Pennino

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#264673

On Sat, 22 Aug 2015 19:54:29 -0500, "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> wrote:

[...]

>> Rocky you are worse than a Kook. You are a disinformation specialist like 
>> HVAC (or maybe you ARE one of HVAC's "personalities").
>>
>> Anyone looking into the Pentagon evidence finds SEVERE problems with the 
>> official story. For one thing supposed flight path of the aircraft 
>> compared to eye witnesses showed that story impossible and wrong. Also 
>> there are problems with the size and shape of the Hole in the building and 
>> parts scattered around that at first glance are not from the supposed 
>> crash plane.
>>
>> So, as usual signs are everywhere of one more gummint coverup. So WHAT is 
>> being covered up? Who knows? The idea is to KEEP it covered up! But the 
>> fact that there IS a cover-up is beyond question.
>>
>> And "Rocky" is doing his part in the cover up. He brings together a bunch 
>> of the anomalous facts that gets all the conspiracy folks interested and 
>> then after he ties all the "kooks" with a big red bow, he proposes his 
>> "NUKE" theory that discredits them all wholesale! This is wonderful 
>> tradecraft at the HVAC level!
>
>WTF???  I know there are a lot of other things that prove the Pentagon was a 
>BIG LIE but I like the fact that one of the Crisis Actors had to say a 757 
>folded it's wings back to go into the small hole in the wall.
>

     There were no crisis actors. This lie of yours has been exposed a
few times. You should cease offering it.

>As for the Nukes and the CGIs.  I am calling it like I see it.  

     But no nukes or CGIs were used, so you could not have seen them.

>The remains 
>of the Twin Towers prove something vaporized them from below and not above 

     Since they were no vaporized, they could not have been vaporized
from above or below. Or the middle.

>and the wing that fades in and out on the alleged Flight 175 could only be 
>recreated exactly by using 3D software.

     And yet I was able to PROVE the wing did not disappear using the
video you linked to. 

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#264685

In article <ifcjta9pca3jrge9qr3gaapqt40375vfiq@4ax.com>,
 "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:

> >WTF???  I know there are a lot of other things that prove the Pentagon was a 
> >BIG LIE but I like the fact that one of the Crisis Actors had to say a 757 
> >folded it's wings back to go into the small hole in the wall.
> >
> 
>      There were no crisis actors. This lie of yours has been exposed a
> few times. You should cease offering it.

Don't pretend we weren't warned.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU

It's all for the best.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5KaicVg34

    Flights of black horseman soar over churches
    Pursued by an army of birds in the rain
    None of them can see the clouds, the polished wings don't care
    Animal ways through the hazy dreams full of pain

The flight of the two helpless planes over the 'churches' of Wall Street, 
followed by the Air Force interceptors overriding controlling their flight.

    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
    It all turns around, in the end
    The voices sound deadly, sometimes I hear
    Echoes of empires, spread throughout the sky

The towers crashing to the ground, a seeming blow to the American financial 
empire (World _Trade_ Center). Actually the bankers prosperred lending money to 
the US government and arms manufacturers ramping up production.

    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
    It all turns around, in the end

    Flights of black horseman soar over churches
    Pursued by an army of birds in the rain
    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
    It all turns around, in the end

It turned around American attitudes about Iraq, as Bush and the IJC intended.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylMaRaYc6mM

    White bird,
    in a golden cage,
    on a winter's day,
    in the rain.

A metaphorical winter's day.

    White bird,
    in a golden cage,
    alone.
    
Only one cruise missile would be used against the Pentagon.

    The leaves blow,
    Across the long black road.
    To the darkened skies,
    in its rage

And the enraged Americans, manipulated by Bush.

    But the white bird just sits in her cage,
    unknown.

The real airliner was diverted to Wright Patterson, disassembled (plane and 
passengers), and hidden in the underground vaults of Hangar 18.

    White bird must fly
    Or she will die

The airliner failed to escape the Air Force.

    White bird,
    dreams of the aspen trees,
    with their dying leaves,
    turning gold.

The bankers get rich with the murder of Real Americans.

    But the white bird just sits in her cage,
    growing old.

Bush Sr had missed his opportunity for greatness by killing Saddam Hussein.

    White bird must fly or she will die.
    White bird must fly or she will die.

    The sunsets come, the sunsets go.
    The clouds roll by,and the earth turns old.
    And the young bird's eyes do always glow.

'As they pretend it's a chore/to ship us off to war.'

    She must fly,
    She must fly,
    She must fly.

The cruise missile will strike the Pentagon.

    White bird,
    In a golden cage,
    On a winter's day, in the rain.

    White bird,
    In a golden cage alone.

    White bird must fly or she will die.
    White bird must fly or she will die.
    White bird must fly or she will die.
    White bird must fly

The sacrificial Pentagon employees were sitting ducks.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
When is a Kenyan not a Kenyan? When he's a Canadian.
That's People's Commissioner Siri Cruz now. Punch!

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#264699

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:09:17 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <ifcjta9pca3jrge9qr3gaapqt40375vfiq@4ax.com>,
> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >WTF???  I know there are a lot of other things that prove the Pentagon was a 
>> >BIG LIE but I like the fact that one of the Crisis Actors had to say a 757 
>> >folded it's wings back to go into the small hole in the wall.
>> 
>>      There were no crisis actors. This lie of yours has been exposed a
>> few times. You should cease offering it.
>
>Don't pretend we weren't warned.
>

     Is something bad going to happen to me?

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU
>
>It's all for the best.
>

     I don't see the connection between the 9/11 attacks and
"Godspell." You'll need to point it out.

>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5KaicVg34
>

     So Blue Oyster Cult was behind the attacks?

>    Flights of black horseman soar over churches
>    Pursued by an army of birds in the rain
>    None of them can see the clouds, the polished wings don't care
>    Animal ways through the hazy dreams full of pain
>
>The flight of the two helpless planes over the 'churches' of Wall Street, 
>followed by the Air Force interceptors overriding controlling their flight.
>
>    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
>    It all turns around, in the end
>    The voices sound deadly, sometimes I hear
>    Echoes of empires, spread throughout the sky
>
>The towers crashing to the ground, a seeming blow to the American financial 
>empire (World _Trade_ Center). Actually the bankers prosperred lending money to 
>the US government and arms manufacturers ramping up production.
>
>    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
>    It all turns around, in the end
>
>    Flights of black horseman soar over churches
>    Pursued by an army of birds in the rain
>    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
>    It all turns around, in the end
>
>It turned around American attitudes about Iraq, as Bush and the IJC intended.
>

     Do you happen to know the exact time you lost all contact with
reality?

>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylMaRaYc6mM
>

     That song is from the 60's. It can have NO connection to the 9/11
attacks.

>    White bird,
>    in a golden cage,
>    on a winter's day,
>    in the rain.
>
>A metaphorical winter's day.
>

     The lyrics state it was a winter's day. No metaphors present.
Additionally, it wasn't raining in NYC on 9/11/01.

>    White bird,
>    in a golden cage,
>    alone.
>    
>Only one cruise missile would be used against the Pentagon.
>

     And yet, none were.
     Odd that.

[snip the remainder of the k00k babble]

     If you believe what you've posted to be true, you should seek the
help of a mental health care professional. If you're simply trolling,
well, I hope you get something for getting me to reply to your troll
rant.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#264726

In article <g9jjtad91ileg5gef6dbsqrnel118vjkqg@4ax.com>,
 "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:

> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU
> >
> >It's all for the best.
> >
> 
>      I don't see the connection between the 9/11 attacks and
> "Godspell." You'll need to point it out.

He's no fun. He fell right over.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
When is a Kenyan not a Kenyan? When he's a Canadian.
That's People's Commissioner Siri Cruz now. Punch!

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#264797

On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 09:36:39 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <g9jjtad91ileg5gef6dbsqrnel118vjkqg@4ax.com>,
> "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU
>> >
>> >It's all for the best.
>> 
>>      I don't see the connection between the 9/11 attacks and
>> "Godspell." You'll need to point it out.
>
>He's no fun. He fell right over.

     Wait! Didn't I say that on the other side of the record?

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#264818

In article <ge6ktah2kqjtnptsg5veuou48eitqv9g0i@4ax.com>,
 "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 09:36:39 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <g9jjtad91ileg5gef6dbsqrnel118vjkqg@4ax.com>,
> > "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU
> >> >
> >> >It's all for the best.
> >> 
> >>      I don't see the connection between the 9/11 attacks and
> >> "Godspell." You'll need to point it out.
> >
> >He's no fun. He fell right over.
> 
>      Wait! Didn't I say that on the other side of the record?

Just because I see a pattern doesn't mean the pattern is there.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/patternicity-finding-meaningful-pattern
s/

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
When is a Kenyan not a Kenyan? When he's a Canadian.
That's People's Commissioner Siri Cruz now. Punch!

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#264974

In article <g9jjtad91ileg5gef6dbsqrnel118vjkqg@4ax.com>, 
compuelf@gmail.com says...
> 
> On Sun, 23 Aug 2015 05:09:17 -0700, Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> 
> >In article <ifcjta9pca3jrge9qr3gaapqt40375vfiq@4ax.com>,
> > "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> >WTF???  I know there are a lot of other things that prove the Pentagon was a 
> >> >BIG LIE but I like the fact that one of the Crisis Actors had to say a 757 
> >> >folded it's wings back to go into the small hole in the wall.
> >> 
> >>      There were no crisis actors. This lie of yours has been exposed a
> >> few times. You should cease offering it.
> >
> >Don't pretend we weren't warned.
> >
> 
>      Is something bad going to happen to me?
> 
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzoC01dFXHU
> >
> >It's all for the best.
> >
> 
>      I don't see the connection between the 9/11 attacks and
> "Godspell." You'll need to point it out.
> 
> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4V5KaicVg34
> >
> 
>      So Blue Oyster Cult was behind the attacks?
> 
> >    Flights of black horseman soar over churches
> >    Pursued by an army of birds in the rain
> >    None of them can see the clouds, the polished wings don't care
> >    Animal ways through the hazy dreams full of pain
> >
> >The flight of the two helpless planes over the 'churches' of Wall Street, 
> >followed by the Air Force interceptors overriding controlling their flight.
> >
> >    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
> >    It all turns around, in the end
> >    The voices sound deadly, sometimes I hear
> >    Echoes of empires, spread throughout the sky
> >
> >The towers crashing to the ground, a seeming blow to the American financial 
> >empire (World _Trade_ Center). Actually the bankers prosperred lending money to 
> >the US government and arms manufacturers ramping up production.
> >
> >    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
> >    It all turns around, in the end
> >
> >    Flights of black horseman soar over churches
> >    Pursued by an army of birds in the rain
> >    Wings wetted down, stumbling on the ground
> >    It all turns around, in the end
> >
> >It turned around American attitudes about Iraq, as Bush and the IJC intended.
> >
> 
>      Do you happen to know the exact time you lost all contact with
> reality?
> 

WTF is it with kOOks and their linking songs to their delusions?

> >
> >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ylMaRaYc6mM
> >
> 
>      That song is from the 60's. It can have NO connection to the 9/11
> attacks.
> 
> >    White bird,
> >    in a golden cage,
> >    on a winter's day,
> >    in the rain.
> >
> >A metaphorical winter's day.
> >
> 
>      The lyrics state it was a winter's day. No metaphors present.
> Additionally, it wasn't raining in NYC on 9/11/01.
> 
> >    White bird,
> >    in a golden cage,
> >    alone.
> >    
> >Only one cruise missile would be used against the Pentagon.
> >
> 
>      And yet, none were.
>      Odd that.
> 
> [snip the remainder of the k00k babble]
> 
>      If you believe what you've posted to be true, you should seek the
> help of a mental health care professional. If you're simply trolling,
> well, I hope you get something for getting me to reply to your troll
> rant.

The poor kOOk...

-- 
BDK: Head Government Shill, and future Psychotronic World Dominator. 
Master of Remote Viewing. Level 5 expert in kOOkStudies.
Former FEMA camp activities director. Head Strategic Writer. Former 
Black Helicopter color consultant.

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#265013

In article <MPG.3045097e3b4861d598c23d@news.giganews.com>,
 BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> wrote:

> WTF is it with kOOks and their linking songs to their delusions?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evxrVjW-aeg

    I told you about strawberry fields
    You know the place where nothing is real
    Well here's another place you can go
    Where everything flows.

Strawberry fields was a reference to contemporary movie _The Strawberry 
Statement_, another case of the youth revealing the Illuminati but attacked by 
the police state elements who hide the truth.

    Looking through the bent-backed tulips
    To see how the other half live
    Looking through a glass onion.

After the failure of the US to fight the Illuminati, Lennon shifts to the Soviet 
Union. Sadly he foresaw glasnost and how it would allow the IJC to overturn the 
hope of the Russion Revolution as it already done to the American and French 
Revolutions against the IJC.

    I told you about the walrus and me, man
    You know we're as close as can be, man
    Well here's another clue for you all
    The walrus was Paul.

References the Walrus and the Carpenter poem, and tying that to Paul the 
apostle, founder of communist societies.

    Standing on the cast iron shore, yeah
    Lady Madonna trying to make ends meet, yeah
    Looking through the glass onion

The Russian Orthodox Church, a mere tool of the IJC, would choke the liberation 
of mind and spirit from the pseudo-christian religious dogma.

    Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah
    Looking through the glass onion.

    I told you about the fool on the hill
    I tell you man he's living there still
    Well here's another place you can be
    Listen to me.

A clear reference to cruxification at the behest of the IJC temple priests.

    Fixing a hole in the ocean
    Trying to make a dove-tail joint, yeah
    Looking through a glass onion.

The Baltic Sea Anomaly, a mushroom religious idol of the IJC.

-- 
:-<> Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. Deleted.
'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.'
When is a Kenyan not a Kenyan? When he's a Canadian.
That's People's Commissioner Siri Cruz now. Punch!

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#265069

In article <chine.bleu-143558.12390024082015@88-209-239-213.giganet.hu>, 
chine.bleu@yahoo.com says...


> 
> In article <MPG.3045097e3b4861d598c23d@news.giganews.com>,
>  BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> wrote:
> 
> > WTF is it with kOOks and their linking songs to their delusions?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evxrVjW-aeg
> 
>     I told you about strawberry fields
>     You know the place where nothing is real
>     Well here's another place you can go
>     Where everything flows.
> 
> Strawberry fields was a reference to contemporary movie _The Strawberry 
> Statement_, another case of the youth revealing the Illuminati but attacked by 
> the police state elements who hide the truth.
> 
>     Looking through the bent-backed tulips
>     To see how the other half live
>     Looking through a glass onion.
> 
> After the failure of the US to fight the Illuminati, Lennon shifts to the Soviet 
> Union. Sadly he foresaw glasnost and how it would allow the IJC to overturn the 
> hope of the Russion Revolution as it already done to the American and French 
> Revolutions against the IJC.
> 
>     I told you about the walrus and me, man
>     You know we're as close as can be, man
>     Well here's another clue for you all
>     The walrus was Paul.
> 
> References the Walrus and the Carpenter poem, and tying that to Paul the 
> apostle, founder of communist societies.
> 
>     Standing on the cast iron shore, yeah
>     Lady Madonna trying to make ends meet, yeah
>     Looking through the glass onion
> 
> The Russian Orthodox Church, a mere tool of the IJC, would choke the liberation 
> of mind and spirit from the pseudo-christian religious dogma.
> 
>     Oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah
>     Looking through the glass onion.
> 
>     I told you about the fool on the hill
>     I tell you man he's living there still
>     Well here's another place you can be
>     Listen to me.
> 
> A clear reference to cruxification at the behest of the IJC temple priests.
> 
>     Fixing a hole in the ocean
>     Trying to make a dove-tail joint, yeah
>     Looking through a glass onion.
> 
> The Baltic Sea Anomaly, a mushroom religious idol of the IJC.

Hi.  I wanted to read this, but it was really long.

-- 
Checkmate
Official AUK Award Giver-Outer
Copyright © 2015 
all rights reserved 

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#265053

On Mon, 24 Aug 2015 11:59:51 -0400, BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com>
wrote:

[...]

>> >It turned around American attitudes about Iraq, as Bush and the IJC intended.
>> 
>>      Do you happen to know the exact time you lost all contact with
>> reality?
>
>WTF is it with kOOks and their linking songs to their delusions?
>

     Well, you see, the conspiracy has been happening for many, many
years. In fact, and I probably shouldn't mention this, one of the
Pilgrims was rumored to be a member of the Masons.
     Duuun duuun DUUUUUUUN!

[...]

>> [snip the remainder of the k00k babble]
>> 
>>      If you believe what you've posted to be true, you should seek the
>> help of a mental health care professional. If you're simply trolling,
>> well, I hope you get something for getting me to reply to your troll
>> rant.
>
>The poor kOOk...

     If s/he believes it. I haven't read enough of siri's posts to be
able to make an actual determination.

-- 
Shill #3. Current Psychotronic World Dominator and FEMA camp
counselor

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#264583

Time to spin the kooks up again. Melt, kooks, melt. <snicker>

Rocky, in <news:KvidnQVn8rrGNkXInZ2dnUU7-K2dnZ2d@giganews.com>
did thusly jump head first into the wood chipper again:

> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx>

>> <http://911review.com/errors/pentagon/nodebris.html>

> RO<SMACKAKOOK!> 

Until you are able to prove that your kooky conspiracy theory is
able to violate the laws of physics, you will continue to be
treated as the retard everyone knows you to be, Retard.

Kook. LOL

>> <http://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a5659/debunking-911-myths-pentagon/>

> Ye<SMACKAKOOK!>

Stop avoiding providing that proof, Ko0kTard. The laws of physics
are immutable, you cannot get around them. If you k'lame to have
done so, you are either lying or insane. You choose which.

Kook. LOL

>> <http://911research.wtc7.net/pentagon/analysis/conclusions/debris.html>

> H<SMACKAKOOK!>

Stupid delusional fuckwits who can't discern reality from
fantasy, who have broken little underpowered brains that
continually change their kooky conspiracy theory as an attempt at
weaseling their way toward some semblance of plausibility will be
pointed at, laughed at and their stupid drooling mouths slapped
shut until they can prove they're not either lying or insane when
they state their kooky conspiracy theory can violate the laws of
physics.

Kook. LOL

>> <http://www.rense.com/general32/phot.htm>

> Wha<SMACKAKOOK!>

Your simply dismissing reality doesn't change reality, Delusional
Idiot.

Kook. LOL

>> Look at all those photos showing plane debris, both outside and
>> *inside* the Pentagon. Hull pieces, the wheel rim of (surprise!
>> surprise! surprise!) a Boeing 757, a chunk of (surprise!
>> surprise! surprise! the Boeing 757 nose cone that actually
>> punched all the way through to A-E Drive, turbine compressor
>> parts from (surprise! surprise! surprise!) a Boeing 757, and a
>> shitload of small plane chunks directly in front of the building,
>> exactly as one would expect from those once-together chunks
>> slamming into and through concrete at 400 MPH. And that's not to
>> mention the eyewitnesses *and* video of the crash.
>>
>> <http://whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/911_pentagon_eyewitnesses.html>

> I<SMACKAKOOK!>

You've thus far failed to provide any evidence whatsoever that
didn't violate the laws of physics, to support your retardation.
Thus, you are either insane or lying. You choose which.

Kook. LOL

>> And wouldn't you know it, the pre-collapse punch-through hole on
>> the outer Pentagon matches what one would expect to see from a
>> 757 hitting it at near ground level... that pilot was relying on
>> ground effect to keep the aircraft just off the ground, and
>> rammed it in at full throttle.
>>
>> Here's what the hole in the Pentagon looked like:
>> <http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/pentagon_precollapse-marked.jpg>
>> <http://whatreallyhappened.com/IMAGES/pentagon_boeing_large.jpg>

> Pi<SMACKAKOOK!>

That your broken brain is now squealing in pain because it is
being forced to confront reality would be all an intelligent
person needs to ascertain that their brain is broken... that you
cannot ascertain this means you're insane *and* stupid.

Kook. LOL

>> You'll note the starboard wing was clipped by the generator unit,

> W<SMACKAKOOK!>

Get to refuting all that scientific evidence proving you're an
insane frothing-at-the-mouth nutter, and while you're at it, get
right on answering the 16 points for which your kooky conspiracy
theory violates the laws of physics.

Kook. LOL

>> shortening the length of the starboard wing punch-through hole to
>> the right of the main body punch-through hole.

> An<SMACKAKOOK!>

Delusional blather-spewing tards will have no other option than
to shut the fuck up and reconcile themselves to the fact that
their broken brains are inadequate to properly process reality.

Kook. LOL

>> Blast expert Allyn E. Kilsheimer was the first structural
>> engineer to arrive at the Pentagon after the crash and helped
>> coordinate the emergency response. "It was absolutely a plane,
>> and I'll tell you why," says Kilsheimer, CEO of KCE Structural
>> Engineers PC, Washington, D.C. "I saw the marks of the plane wing
>> on the face of the building. I picked up parts of the plane with
>> the airline markings on them. I held in my hand the tail section
>> of the plane, and I found the black box."

> Too<SMACKAKOOK!>

Until you are able to address the points for which your kooky
conspiracy theory violates the laws of physics, until you are
able to provide even one shred of credible scientific proof to
support your insane conspiracy theory, you will be minimized, put
down, laughed at and treated as the retard we all know you to be.

Kook. LOL

> Lo<SMACKAKOOK!>

Don't purport to know anything about me but what I tell you, you
delusional fuckwit. Now get to providing that evidence to support
your delusion, or admit you're insane.

Kook. LOL

> Sti<SMACKAKOOK!>

You'll get right on explaining exactly how anything can be
"damaged by a CGI", and providing irrefutable scientific proof
that any CGI existed. Until you do that, along with providing an
explanation as to how your kooky conspiracy theory can violate
several laws of physics, you are de facto insane. That you cannot
refute this reality stands as your tacit admission to *being*
insane.

Kook. LOL

> Rocky

Now, get to addressing the 16 ways your kook conspiracy theory
violates the laws of physics:

======================================================
1) Your estimation of the time between detonation and the time of
collapse puts the nukes between from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep
below the towers, a depth we don't even have the technology to
drill to today, let alone back in 1968. Not to mention the fact
that at that depth, the temperature is so high things like metal
*melt*. That's *why* we can't drill much deeper than the 7.636
miles of the Al Shaheen oil well in Qatar (the deepest hole
*ever* dug in human history)... the equipment fails. That's why
the Kola Superdeep Borehole was abandoned at 7.619 miles deep.

2) The claimed "EMP pulse" in the video *you* provided wasn't an
EMP pulse at all, it was satellite uplink interference. If it'd
been a nuke EMP (especially one sized 150 kt), the nanosecond
time frame of the explosion (and thus the sharp peak of the EMP)
would have caused the camera's electronics to burn out. No amount
of shielding would have been sufficient to prevent that. That
there is video of the immediate aftermath proves there was no
nuke, especially one sized your claimed 150 kt, which would have
destroyed all electronics for dozens of miles radius.

3) The radiation experienced was of such short duration that
there's no way it was neutron or gamma bombardment from a nuke.
If it had been from a nuke the metal in the buildings would have
shown high levels of radioactivity for decades. It was most
likely the tritium in the aircraft exit signs and law enforcement
weapon sights that was the source. You didn't specify what type
of radiation was experienced, and I doubt you're smart or
educated enough to even know what types of radiation there are.

4) No nuclear detonation byproducts were found at the WTC complex
or anywhere in NYC. They found tritium from the aircraft exit
signs and law enforcement weapons sites, radium from industrial
sources unrelated to nuclear weapons and background levels for
all other sources of radiation.

5) The seismic waves caused by a small 150 kt nuke wouldn't be
sufficient to drop the buildings, it'd barely even be felt by
people in the vicinity, especially with the bombs buried, as you
k'lamed, from 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* deep. It would take on the
order of 2 MEGAtons to do so, especially at the depths you k'lame
the bombs were buried.

6) The trigger that sets off the nuclear explosion is a neutron
source. It naturally decays over time, and its decay byproducts,
the elements the neutron source transmutes into as it decays,
include xenon, which is a neutron absorber. It's called xenon
poisoning. Any bomb that has sat for 33 years without its trigger
being replenished will not have a trigger that is viable to start
any sort of nuclear chain reaction.

7) I've provided a video from *inside* one of the towers *as*
*it* *was* *collapsing*, showing the vibration from the buckling
vertical support column and *NO* EMP:
======================
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xYjoSvzWeo>
You'll note the massive shaking from the central support column
buckling, but *NO* EMP. And that was INSIDE the WTC tower. No
amount of shielding would have saved that camera from a nuke EMP.
======================

8) Why aren't you explaining how those supposed nukes were going
to survive at a depth of 37.28 miles (where the temperature would
be approximately 960 degrees F) to 96.93 miles (where the
temperature would be approximately 1840 degrees F), Ko0K?

9) Explain how a nuclear weapon can direct its explosion through
a hole without any of the compressive blast going out into
surrounding rock.

10) Explain how 19 nukes (according to you, another leap of logic
taken by your broken brain to explain away the 19 instances of
satellite uplink interference in the video *you* provided) were
detonated at the WTC complex in rapid succession, yet no ill
effects were experienced by electronics, the electrical grid or
aircraft.

11) Explain why you're now saying there were 34 nukes
(MID:<345fee8b286a91037bc806ed589d182d@dizum.com>), as opposed to
your previously k'lamed 19 nukes (and your previously, previously
k'lamed 3 nukes)... would it be because your broken little brain
is squirming under the scorching twin beams of truth and reality,
screaming in agony at its being forced to see just how delusional
it truly is? While you're at it, get to explaining how the
regular rad sweeps (radiological surveys) at the twin towers
(because the space was primarily rented by government agencies)
showed no nukes or any contamination whatsoever, and how 34 nukes
were obtained and put in place without drawing any attention
whatsoever.

12) Why aren't you explaining how the personnel sent down to
service those nukes (because now that you know the neutron-source
triggers for nuclear weapons require replacement on a periodic
basis, your broken brain *had* to construct an entire base at
37.28 to 96.93 miles deep (far deeper than we have the technology
to dig even today, let alone back in 1968), complete with "4
blast doors to keep the explosion from getting back into the area
the nukes were maintained", or your brain would have been forced
to admit it was wrong when it told you those nukes sat untouched
for 33 years and maintained their viability) are supposed to
survive in 960 to 1840 degree heat?

13) You admitted (ed75e9d6f7ccf7296c075fd695673a37@dizum.com)
that all the materials used in construction of the twin towers
(all 1.5 million tons of it) had been accounted for and trucked
off to the Fresh Kills landfill. How will you reconcile your
admission with your kook blather that significant percentages of
the buildings "vaporized" (your word) and "floated toward Europe"
(your words)?

14) Why can't you provide proof of the nuclear explosion seismic
signatures for these 19 nukes (now 34 nukes, per your latest
k'lame) you k'lame were detonated at the WTC site on 11 Sep 2001?

15) Where were the vertically-directed plumes of dust and debris
kicked up from your claimed nuclear weapons being detonated deep
underground, Ko0K?

16) Explain how these 19 nukes (now 34 nukes per your latest
k'lame) could tunnel holes from their underground installation
37.28 to 96.93 miles deep, to directly under the WTC complex...
in 12 seconds... through solid bedrock... prior to detonating
directly below the WTC towers (which, of course, fucks up your
timing between the detonations and the collapses, leading you
back to where your delusion started. Congratulations, Dimwit,
you've made the full circuit on The Island of Insanity. Now go
'round again.).
======================================================

There are now 16 ways your kook konspiracy theory violates the
laws of physics... now you'd better get to work addressing each
one, point by point, or people are gonna know you're just a
retard who can't grasp simple physics.

Kook. LOL

-- 

Rocky, your brain is grasping at straws in trying to avoid
admitting *you* *are* *wrong*, and as your brain becomes more and
more desperate to avoid the truth we promulgate (which utterly
demolishes your kook theory), it makes larger and larger leaps of
illogic.

For instance:
=============================
A) You said the satellite uplink inteference seen in the video
*you* *provided* was a nuke EMP, so your broken brain told you
they must have buried nukes under the twin towers. Being a
simpleton, you believed they just dug shallow holes, dropped the
nukes in, smoothed over the concrete and walked away for 33
years.

B) Your timing on the video *you* *provided* between the video
disturbance due to satellite uplink interference (what you deemed
to be a "nuke EMP") and the tower falling being 12 seconds (it
was actually 14 seconds, but kooks can't count) means your
supposed nukes had to have been buried from 37.28 to 96.93
*miles* below the surface (depending upon soil composition and
thus speed of compressive blast transmission... and since we're
talking solid bedrock here, it'd be at the upper end of that
scale). Never mind that we don't have the technology to drill
that deep even today, let alone in 1968. Your broken brain had to
yet again change your kooky little conspiracy theory to at least
try to orient itself at some acute angle to reality. So no "dug a
shallow hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away
for 33 years" anymore, now it was "dug an impossibly deep hole,
dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33 years".

C) You're such a simpleton you didn't realize nukes require
periodic replacement of their neutron-source trigger, which
naturally radioactively decays over time, building up the decay
byproduct xenon, which absorbs neutrons. It's called xenon
poisoning. So your broken brain told you that someone had to
service those nukes to keep the triggers viable... which means
your broken brain was thus *forced* to change from "dug a shallow
hole, dropped the nukes in, covered it up, walked away for 33
years", to "dug an impossibly deep hole, dropped the nukes in,
covered it up, walked away for 33 years", to "built an entire
*facility* impossibly deep under the WTC, complete with service
personnel and" "4 blast doors to keep the explosion from getting
back into the area the nukes were maintained" (your words).

D) Your broken brain is now saying there were 19 nukes instead of
your original 3, because you know there were 19 instances of
satellite uplink interference in the video *you* *provided*, in
which you k'lamed one of the instances of satellite uplink
interference was an EMP. And if you k'lame one of them is an EMP,
they *all* must be EMPs, so your broken brain now tells you there
were 19 nukes detonated in rapid succession... completely
ignoring the fact that even one nuke detonation would plunge the
city into darkness due to EMP, and completely ignoring the fact
that no nuclear detonation byproducts were found in the rubble or
its vicinity.

E) Now that your broken brain was convinced that the nukes were
buried deeply, of course, they had a very wide blast radius,
which screwed up your kooky k'lame that they were used to
demolish WTC1 and WTC2, but somehow missed WTC3 and WTC4... so
your broken brain conceived that the nuclear weapons could
somehow dig themselves up from that miles-deep facility to just
below the WTC towers prior to exploding, in order to make their
cone of destruction smaller. Nevermind that your broken brain
said they dug through 37.28 to 96.93 *miles* of *solid* *bedrock*
in *12* *seconds*. LOL

F) So I've led you by the nose in a full circle... if those bombs
your broken brain is telling you existed *did* dig their way up
to underneath the WTC twin towers before detonating (they
didn't... first because there were no nukes, second because it'd
be impossible, but for the sake of argument, we'll continue),
that leads right back to your calculation of the time between
your claimed "EMP" on the video *you* *provided* and the time the
buildings fell, which is pretty much where we started. So you've
proven by skirting the perimeter of sanity full-circle that
you're insane. LOL

IOW, your broken brain is far too stupid to discern fantasy from
reality. And the harder you try, the more you run around in
little tard-circles, banging your head with your fist and doing
your very best Rainman imitation. I can twist your brain into a
pretzel with my knowledge. And I've just barely even started, I
haven't even worked up a sweat yet.
=============================

Kook. LOL

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#264599

"Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus" <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> 
wrote in message news:8341507f0ecf4d029cceaa0de7804346@dizum.com...

First back to the OP.  You completely overlooked the fact that Mike Walter 
felt pressured to explain why people could have played golf on the lawn of 
the Pentagon even after there was supposed to have been a commercial 
airliner wreck there.  <G>

And you have got to stop thinking about birds going into a birdhouse because 
only birds can do what Mike Walter describes the alleged 757 doing.

And for the sake of the argument lets say that the 757 really folded it's 
wings back to disappear into a small hole in the wall.  Now where did both 
engines go when the metal engines are made of doesn't just burn up?  <G> 
Yep, they forget to plant a second engine and they also forgot to use 
explosives in two places in the wall for their verisimilitude.


> Your simply dismissing reality doesn't change reality, Delusional
> Idiot.

Not hardly.  I'm dismissing an alleged commercial airliner crash that does 
not resemble a real commercial airliner crash and even had to use parts from 
a crash site in Brazil to add to the verisimilitude.


> You've thus far failed to provide any evidence whatsoever that
> didn't violate the laws of physics, to support your retardation.
> Thus, you are either insane or lying. You choose which.

WTF?  I have no idea what you talking about because you removed my comment 
and I already know you are full of it so why should I go back and see what 
my comment was?


>>> You'll note the starboard wing was clipped by the generator unit,
>
>> W<SMACKAKOOK!>
>
> Get to refuting all that scientific evidence proving you're an
> insane frothing-at-the-mouth nutter, and while you're at it, get
> right on answering the 16 points for which your kooky conspiracy
> theory violates the laws of physics.

"scientific evidence?"  Dude there was a clear photo of the unit you are 
talking about dumping out smoke all over the place so there was nothing 
scientific about it when it was just evidence.


> Until you are able to address the points for which your kooky
> conspiracy theory violates the laws of physics

You mean your laws of physics where 3 buildings can fall from 66% freefall 
to 100% freefall without using explosives?

And then all you have to do is look at the remains of the Twin Towers and 
the fact the media called the place "Ground Zero" to know that nukes were 
used at "Ground Zero" because of the pre-9/11 meaning of "Ground Zero."  Or 
is that way over your head too?


> Now, get to addressing the 16 ways your kook conspiracy theory
> violates the laws of physics:

You are so fcuking funny because you try your best to make it look like 
nukes were not the reason Ground Zero was called Ground Zero that you fail 
to mention the similarities between what a nuke leaves behind and what was 
left behind of the Twin Towers.  <G>

Rocky 

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#264601

Rocky wrote:
> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus"
> <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote in message
> news:8341507f0ecf4d029cceaa0de7804346@dizum.com... 
> 
> First back to the OP.  You completely overlooked the fact that Mike
> Walter felt pressured to explain why people could have played golf on
> the lawn of the Pentagon even after there was supposed to have been a
> commercial airliner wreck there.  <G>
> 
> And you have got to stop thinking about birds going into a birdhouse
> because only birds can do what Mike Walter describes the alleged 757
> doing. 
> 
> And for the sake of the argument lets say that the 757 really folded
> it's wings back to disappear into a small hole in the wall.  Now
> where did both engines go when the metal engines are made of doesn't
> just burn up?  <G> Yep, they forget to plant a second engine and they
> also forgot to use explosives in two places in the wall for their
> verisimilitude. 
> 
> 
>> Your simply dismissing reality doesn't change reality, Delusional
>> Idiot.
> 
> Not hardly.  I'm dismissing an alleged commercial airliner crash that
> does not resemble a real commercial airliner crash and even had to
> use parts from a crash site in Brazil to add to the verisimilitude.
> 
> 
>> You've thus far failed to provide any evidence whatsoever that
>> didn't violate the laws of physics, to support your retardation.
>> Thus, you are either insane or lying. You choose which.
> 
> WTF?  I have no idea what you talking about because you removed my
> comment and I already know you are full of it so why should I go back
> and see what my comment was?
> 
> 
>>>> You'll note the starboard wing was clipped by the generator unit,
>> 
>>> W<SMACKAKOOK!>
>> 
>> Get to refuting all that scientific evidence proving you're an
>> insane frothing-at-the-mouth nutter, and while you're at it, get
>> right on answering the 16 points for which your kooky conspiracy
>> theory violates the laws of physics.
> 
> "scientific evidence?"  Dude there was a clear photo of the unit you
> are talking about dumping out smoke all over the place so there was
> nothing scientific about it when it was just evidence.
> 
> 
>> Until you are able to address the points for which your kooky
>> conspiracy theory violates the laws of physics
> 
> You mean your laws of physics where 3 buildings can fall from 66%
> freefall to 100% freefall without using explosives?
> 
> And then all you have to do is look at the remains of the Twin Towers
> and the fact the media called the place "Ground Zero" to know that
> nukes were used at "Ground Zero" because of the pre-9/11 meaning of
> "Ground Zero."  Or is that way over your head too?
> 
> 
>> Now, get to addressing the 16 ways your kook conspiracy theory
>> violates the laws of physics:
> 
> You are so fcuking funny because you try your best to make it look
> like nukes were not the reason Ground Zero was called Ground Zero
> that you fail to mention the similarities between what a nuke leaves
> behind and what was left behind of the Twin Towers.  <G>
> 
> Rocky

why are you the only one that believes what you say

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#264604

"%" <persent@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:8n7qtr.f2a.17.1@news.alt.net...
> Rocky wrote:
>> "Friendly Neighborhood Vote Wrangler Emeritus"
>> <FNVWe@altusenetkooks.xxx> wrote in message
>> news:8341507f0ecf4d029cceaa0de7804346@dizum.com... First back to the OP. 
>> You completely overlooked the fact that Mike
>> Walter felt pressured to explain why people could have played golf on
>> the lawn of the Pentagon even after there was supposed to have been a
>> commercial airliner wreck there.  <G>
>>
>> And you have got to stop thinking about birds going into a birdhouse
>> because only birds can do what Mike Walter describes the alleged 757
>> doing. And for the sake of the argument lets say that the 757 really 
>> folded
>> it's wings back to disappear into a small hole in the wall.  Now
>> where did both engines go when the metal engines are made of doesn't
>> just burn up?  <G> Yep, they forget to plant a second engine and they
>> also forgot to use explosives in two places in the wall for their
>> verisimilitude.
>>> Your simply dismissing reality doesn't change reality, Delusional
>>> Idiot.
>>
>> Not hardly.  I'm dismissing an alleged commercial airliner crash that
>> does not resemble a real commercial airliner crash and even had to
>> use parts from a crash site in Brazil to add to the verisimilitude.
>>
>>
>>> You've thus far failed to provide any evidence whatsoever that
>>> didn't violate the laws of physics, to support your retardation.
>>> Thus, you are either insane or lying. You choose which.
>>
>> WTF?  I have no idea what you talking about because you removed my
>> comment and I already know you are full of it so why should I go back
>> and see what my comment was?
>>
>>
>>>>> You'll note the starboard wing was clipped by the generator unit,
>>>
>>>> W<SMACKAKOOK!>
>>>
>>> Get to refuting all that scientific evidence proving you're an
>>> insane frothing-at-the-mouth nutter, and while you're at it, get
>>> right on answering the 16 points for which your kooky conspiracy
>>> theory violates the laws of physics.
>>
>> "scientific evidence?"  Dude there was a clear photo of the unit you
>> are talking about dumping out smoke all over the place so there was
>> nothing scientific about it when it was just evidence.
>>
>>
>>> Until you are able to address the points for which your kooky
>>> conspiracy theory violates the laws of physics
>>
>> You mean your laws of physics where 3 buildings can fall from 66%
>> freefall to 100% freefall without using explosives?
>>
>> And then all you have to do is look at the remains of the Twin Towers
>> and the fact the media called the place "Ground Zero" to know that
>> nukes were used at "Ground Zero" because of the pre-9/11 meaning of
>> "Ground Zero."  Or is that way over your head too?
>>
>>
>>> Now, get to addressing the 16 ways your kook conspiracy theory
>>> violates the laws of physics:
>>
>> You are so fcuking funny because you try your best to make it look
>> like nukes were not the reason Ground Zero was called Ground Zero
>> that you fail to mention the similarities between what a nuke leaves
>> behind and what was left behind of the Twin Towers.  <G>
>>
>> Rocky
>
> why are you the only one that believes what you say

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question 

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