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Re: the elite

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups alt.conspiracy
Subject Re: the elite
Date 2015-12-06 07:59 +0100
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Am 06.12.2015 03:42, schrieb Topaz:
>
> http://www.toqonline.com/
>
> 	An  enduring  aspect  of  the  self-concept  of  Jews  is
> that  their  ascent  to elite status in America and elsewhere  is  the
> natural  result  of  a  meritocracy.

If you read the Tora instead of the Bible, this in itself would not make 
you a better person, but would require to understand Hebrew and that is 
certainly a challenge.

So possibly the term 'Jew' actually means 'selected' and hence Jews are 
better in certain tasks (like speaking Hebrew).

On the other hand, they are not that many, so the chance of such an 
elite to gain political power are very small.

Other believers (like Hindus, Buddhists or Shintoists) have certainly 
also brilliant minds among their ranks, hence could participate in such 
a 'meritocracy'.

The term actually means something like 'governemnt by wise men/women'.

This sounds not that bad at all, since e.g. a few former US presidents 
seemed to be unable to eat without hurting themselves.

> For example, after Elena Kagan
> was nominated for the Supreme Court, Robert Frank penned an article in
> the Wall Street Journal hailing  the  rise  of  a  meritocracy  where
> Jews  could  finally  assume  their rightful  place  as  an  elite,
> and  cheering the demise of those lazy, corrupt WASPs who did
> everything they could to thwart the rise of the Jews, including
> placing limits on Jewish enrollment in the elite universities.

Did THAT happen?

This sounds like an idea, that is not supported by reality.

The USA have, nevertheless, confessional universities and collages, that 
are linked to certain social and economic groups. The access to e.g. 
Georgetown is limited to Jesuits and Jews can't be that.

Well, many people cannot do many things. This is in fact no big deal, 
since important is, what you can do, not what you can't.


  The
> fact  that  Kagan  is  remarkably  unqualified  to  be  a  Supreme
> Court  Justice  in  terms  of  the  usual  standards  (judicial
> experience,  academic  publications,  or  even   courtroom
> experience)   never seems  to  have  entered  his  mind.    In
> Frank's  view,  her  ascent  from  Princeton undergraduate to Harvard
> Law, to high-level government positions and dean of Harvard Law  is
> the  American  meritocracy  in action-a view that conveniently ignores
> the role of her Jewish ethnic connections in greasing her ascent, most
> egregiously her appointment as dean of Harvard Law by Larry Summers.

'Meritocracy' is actually meant as 'rise by OWN merits', not by 
inherited merits.

So it is irrelevant, what your forefather have done and to what kind of 
church they had belonged. Important is only, what the person in question 
DOES.

If people are promoted by 'invisible hands' and for other reasons than 
personal talents, this is a different system (elitism, corporatism etc.).

TH

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the elite Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-05 20:42 -0600
  Re: the elite Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-06 07:59 +0100
    Re: Re: the elite Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-06 04:19 -0600
      Re: the elite Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-07 10:08 +0100
        Re: Re: the elite Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-07 16:06 -0600
          Re: the elite Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-08 07:10 +0100
            Re: Re: the elite Topaz <mars1933@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-08 19:37 -0600

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