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  NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2015-11-29 03:43 +0100
    Re: NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Jonno <me@privacy.nob> - 2015-11-29 09:00 +0000
    Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-11-29 08:23 -0200
      Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-29 07:36 -0500
        Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2015-11-29 17:15 -0200
          Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 11:52 -0800
            Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 13:05 -0700
              Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 13:55 -0800
                Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 15:07 -0700
                  Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 14:12 -0800
                    Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 15:14 -0700
                    Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Clientes <clientes.masivos@gmail.com> - 2015-11-30 04:23 +0100
                  Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Info <info@todoenpacks.com> - 2015-11-29 22:44 +0000
                    Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 15:53 -0700
            Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 14:10 -0800
              Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-11-29 15:55 -0700
    No NSA DOES NOT End Phone Data Collection Program 7 <email_at_www_at_enemygadgets_dot_com@enemygadgets.com> - 2015-11-29 13:30 +0000
    Re: NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-11-29 10:47 -0500
      Re: NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-11-29 10:53 -0500
    Re: NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> - 2015-11-29 11:54 -0800

#5479 — NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

The federal government’s collection of bulk data from the 
telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at 
midnight Saturday, ending a raging controversy that began with 
disclosures about the secret program by Edward Snowden.

Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific 
phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be 
made to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own 
data. The government will no longer retain the information.

http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true

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#5480

Anonymous scribbled 

> 
> The federal government?s collection of bulk data from the 
> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at 
> midnight Saturday, ending a raging controversy that began with 
> disclosures about the secret program by Edward Snowden.
> 
> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific 
> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be 
> made to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own 
> data. The government will no longer retain the information.
> 
> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true


GCHQ will do the collecting for them.

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#5481 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
<anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:

>The federal government’s collection of bulk data from the 
>telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at 
>midnight Saturday.

	And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
every Wednesday with the money they saved.
	OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
	[]'s

PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
Labeled accordingly.
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#5482 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

"Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message 
news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>
>>The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>midnight Saturday.
>
> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
> []'s
>
> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
> Labeled accordingly.

People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.

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#5486 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:36:39 -0500, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
wrote:

>
>"Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message 
>news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
>> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>>
>>>The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>>telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>>midnight Saturday.
>>
>> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
>> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
>> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
>> []'s
>>
>> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
>> Labeled accordingly.
>
>People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>

	Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
	[]'s
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#5487 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15 11:15, Shadow so wittily quipped:
> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:36:39 -0500, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>>
>> "Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message 
>> news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
>>> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>>> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>>> midnight Saturday.
>>>
>>> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
>>> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
>>> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
>>> []'s
>>>
>>> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
>>> Labeled accordingly.
>>
>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>
> 
> 	Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
> 	[]'s
> 

it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.

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#5489 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
<BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:

>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>> 
>> 
>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>> []'s
>> 
> 
> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.

Evidence of this claim?


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#5490 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
> 
>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>> []'s
>>>
>>
>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
> 
> Evidence of this claim?
> 
> 

common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!

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#5491 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
<BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:

> On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
>> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
>> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>>> []'s
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>> 
>> Evidence of this claim?
>> 
>> 
> 
> common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
> 
> 
In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.


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#5493 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15 14:07, Snit so wittily quipped:
> On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
> TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
> 
>> On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
>>> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
>>> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>>>> []'s
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>>>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>>>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>>>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>>>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>>>
>>> Evidence of this claim?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
>>
>>
> In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.

FUCK OFF, TROLL!

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#5494 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15, 3:12 PM, in article
5NKdnVPdufWh5cbLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
<BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:

> On 11/29/15 14:07, Snit so wittily quipped:
>> On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
>> TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
>>>> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
>>>> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>>>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>>>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>>>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>>>>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>>>>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>>>>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>>>>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>>>> 
>>>> Evidence of this claim?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
>>> 
>>> 
>> In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.
> 
> FUCK OFF, TROLL!

Your emotional reaction is not in any way surprising. But still comes down
to your claim is baseless. You are fine with that and so am I.


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#5498 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

In article <5NKdnVPdufWh5cbLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@earthlink.com>
Big Bad Bob <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>
> FUCK OFF, TROLL!

PKB

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#5495 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

In article <D280C52C.6579A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>
> On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
> TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>
> > On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
> >> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
> >> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
> >> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
> >>
> >>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
> >>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
> >>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
> >>>> []'s
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
> >>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
> >>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
> >>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
> >>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
> >>
> >> Evidence of this claim?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
> >
> >
> In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.
>

+1

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#5496 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15, 3:44 PM, in article
20151129224455.27D8C1200AB@fleegle.mixmin.net, "Info" <info@todoenpacks.com>
wrote:

> In article <D280C52C.6579A%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com>
> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>> 
>> On 11/29/15, 2:55 PM, in article
>> TpednXlHH9Hb6cbLnZ2dnUU7-XudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/29/15 12:05, Snit so wittily quipped:
>>>> On 11/29/15, 12:52 PM, in article
>>>> OPmdnXLvnPgBysbLnZ2dnUU7-LmdnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
>>>> <BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>>>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>>>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>>>>> []'s
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>>>>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>>>>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>>>>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>>>>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>>>> 
>>>> Evidence of this claim?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> common sense and common knowledge.  now FUCK OFF, troll!
>>> 
>>> 
>> In other words: no, you have no evidence but you have a feeling. OK.
>> 
> 
> +1
> 
I *have* talked to conservatives who can do better than that... but
unfortunately they are rare. American conservatives is based very much on
emotion, mostly fear. There are studies showing that conservatives are more
focused on fear, and studies showing that Fox is the most trusted source,
that Fox viewers tend to use fewer sources of news, and that Fox is the
least reliable source.

One might be able to be conservative and logical, but it to do so one would
have to use actual reasoning to get to those conclusions and not the emotion
and misinformation generally used.


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#5492 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15 11:52, Big Bad Bob so wittily quipped:
> On 11/29/15 11:15, Shadow so wittily quipped:
>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:36:39 -0500, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> "Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message 
>>> news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
>>>> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>>>> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>>>> midnight Saturday.
>>>>
>>>> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
>>>> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
>>>> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
>>>> []'s
>>>>
>>>> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
>>>> Labeled accordingly.
>>>
>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>
>>
>> 	Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>> 	[]'s
>>
> 
> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
> 
> 

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2606/deadbeats_swinging_in_the_welfare_hammock

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/when-welfare-pays-better-work

http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6067/welfare_trapping_europeans_in_poverty

['lose the will to work' = 'welfare pays better, so why fucking bother?']

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#5497 — Re: [OT]NSA Ends Phone Data Collection Program

On 11/29/15, 3:10 PM, in article
5NKdnVDdufVu6sbLnZ2dnUU7-SudnZ2d@earthlink.com, "Big Bad Bob"
<BigBadBob-at-mrp3-dot-com@testing.local> wrote:

> On 11/29/15 11:52, Big Bad Bob so wittily quipped:
>> On 11/29/15 11:15, Shadow so wittily quipped:
>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 07:36:39 -0500, "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> "Shadow" <Sh@dow.br> wrote in message
>>>> news:cbkl5b9j3bqcbkgimka6m51tcuk25e69i9@4ax.com...
>>>>> On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 03:43:15 +0100, Anonymous
>>>>> <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
>>>>>> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
>>>>>> midnight Saturday.
>>>>> 
>>>>> And they are giving out free milk to anyone that wants it
>>>>> every Wednesday with the money they saved.
>>>>> OMG, I wish I lived in their democracy !!!!
>>>>> []'s
>>>>> 
>>>>> PS Free milk is on-topic in alt.comp.freeware, but OT elsewhere.
>>>>> Labeled accordingly.
>>>> 
>>>> People lose all will to work once they taste the free government cheese.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Say that to all the big war contractors, and they'll probably
>>> have you killed. Or are you referring to the little people that get
>>> free milk ? No worries there, you can always spit on them...
>>> []'s
>>> 
>> 
>> it's more like the age-old argument of "the needy" vs "the moochers and
>> the looters".  Unfortunately, MOST of the "help" [aka 'free government
>> cheese'] goes to the MOOCHERS AND THE LOOTERS, or else the needy BECOME
>> the moochers and looters, after years of NOT getting off their asses and
>> earning their OWN cheese.  They lose the will to work.
>> 
>> 
> 
> http://www.thecommentator.com/article/2606/deadbeats_swinging_in_the_welfare_h
> ammock
> 
> http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/when-welfare-pays-better-work
> 
> http://www.thecommentator.com/article/6067/welfare_trapping_europeans_in_pover
> ty
> 
> ['lose the will to work' = 'welfare pays better, so why fucking bother?']
> 
> 
Our system is broken and at times discourages people from working. I have
seen this first hand. I have not heard a politician from EITHER major party
ever back this, though. And it does not in any way back the idea that those
in need are not doing what they can to take care of themselves.


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#5483 — No NSA DOES NOT End Phone Data Collection Program

Anonymous wrote:

> The federal government's collection of bulk data from the
> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at
> midnight Saturday, ending a raging controversy that began with
> disclosures about the secret program by Edward Snowden.
> 
> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific
> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be
> made to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own
> data. The government will no longer retain the information.
> 
> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true


So Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, Chelsea Manning have all
earned a Nobel Peace Prize and everyone including all politicians
persecuting them are in the wrong, engaged in wrong doings.

In other news, NSA trolls have NOT ceased bulk collection of
data from anyone outside USA including US citizens abroad,
and all other US troll nation government organizations
have now authorized themselves to
collect what NSA trolls have voluteered not to collect.

Nothing has changed then.


Trolling is an Industry in USA
------------------------------

Hiring low pay online trolls is ignorant.

Those hiring online trolls are too afraid to make a statement
in person in case their bollocks got cut off and sold
on ebay for 2 cents. The directors of companies that set up trolling
corporations are themselves afraid of ebay.

Most US politicians and businesses
are so corrupt and reliant to the point of addiction
on trolls and trolling and so they fund it all illegally
through charities because
funding through charities is untraceable
through loopholes in US law.

The lastest insertions of NSA trolls
is in the courier business. If you are thinking of ordering stuff
through Fedexx or UPSs or any US based courier
then be sure to give it a miss. The NSA trolls and their
equivalents have been inserted in there to pass up information
to corporate thieves. They can order
up disruption to your deliveries, especially if you are open
source company. Typically stuff goes missing whenever
there are important samples being couriered around, or when
there is about to be some important event taking place.

With trolls inserted into every fabric of socienty, USA is become
the world's top trolling nation.

It doesn't end there.

Even the NSA and GCHQ is afraid of internet trolling corporations
like Burson Marstelar and their parent company with its 100,000 trolls.
They should be hacking them because it is their job
to get the inside dirt on every politician, and powerful businesses
that rely on trolling corporations. These internet trolling corporations
have more information than governments that is worthwhile for the
power it has over the running of the world than any other internet treasure 
worth its weight in gold.

Nearly all foul mouthed trolling across all of usenet and forums
originates from the USA trolling industry.
The same ones screaming abuse against Americans 
are the same ones screaming abuse at the rest of the world.
The US politician is proud because without their
daily dose of illegal funding through charities, and the
services of industrial strength trolling machinery,
they would be out flipping burgers for a living.

Troll friendly usenet sites like eternal-september.org
banned by att.net, ameritech.net, bellsouth.net, pacbell.net
and prodigy.net for its foul mouth and lies over trolling
and off topic spammer friendly posting policies against 
the usenet charter of all known groups is where all of 
the trolling problems begins.

The US politicians, embassy staff and anyone else falling for it like 
Spanish government should know that the US trolls 
ordering embassies to this kind of work
have no mandate for these kinds of activities.

Just rich companies that have bank rolled teams of asstroturfers
to create fake support and certainly no mandate.
Companies like Eedleman also run fake survey companies
and delete everything except outlying data to fake their reports
to add legitimacy to their trolling campaigns.

The US trolling companies now set up branch offices
in foreign countries like Netherlands
and UK to post illegally and subversively what is 
handed down the chain of command leading all the way to
fake charities and marketing trolls 
shielded illegally behind big corporations in US.
Wikileaks tells us 5% of all US diplomatic activity is to
do with Appil and Micorshaft trolls and their 
trolling armies controlling US diplomatic services
at tax payer expense as their personal puppets.

There is NO MANDATE when fake asstroturfers are driving
the agenda.

The situation is so bad, it has spread into the military.
No one now knows who drives what agenda because
there is no traceability.

The fscking military, politicians, enviro nuts, music mafia,
using asstroturfing technology need the riot act read to them.

The situation is so incomprehensible that
the US has been declared falsely that it is the most charitable nation in
the world when at the same time 3 million US families
are living in shelter, and most of that charity money is fake
money being diverted from corporations into the coffers of asstroturfing
and PR companies. What would you do if you were 
forced into a shelter and all your charity
money was stolen from your charity?
You are down and they still want to steal YOUR CHARITY MONEY?!??
Thats right you would tell them NEVER and tell
them fsck off in no uncertain terms and get the law changed 
to make it a criminal offense to steal charity money
or spend it on anything other than 100% certified peer reviewed charity
without kickbacks, without creative accounting and
without morally unjust criminal behavior within
the charity system.

Most of the money funneled through
charities never make it to charitable causes in the USA.
It is stolen by politicians and pressure groups to cover
up their fake funding routes for asstroturfing.
They are used to it so we got to get over it?

No thanks!!!!

Not a single politician, embassy staff or military has a
mandate for one single political agenda because no one
knows who is funding who and who's agenda is real
and whose agenda is fake. Every signature collected
is one more fake signature for a mandate written out by
asstroturfers.

Asstroturfing through charities undermines society,
and all the nations dealing with US
and it must stop because no one in US has any legitimate
mandates for any of this activity any more.

If they have it, then should display their mandate
with pride, and show where the support had come from
and if any of it is through charities, then the
whole mandate is faked because charity status is being
abused to hide funding routes for corporate asstroturfing.


This taken from Google hearings
-------------------------------

"
The lawyers from Hood's office flat out admit that they're
expecting the MPAA and the major studios to have its media arms
run a coordinated propaganda campaign of bogus anti-Google stories.

One email reads: "Media: We want to make sure that the media
is at the NAAG meeting. We propose working with MPAA (Vans),
Comcast, and NewsCorp (Bill Guidera) to see about working with
a PR firm to create an attack on Google (and others who are
resisting AG efforts to address online piracy). This PR firm
can be funded through a nonprofit dedicated to IP issues.
"

Its so clear why the nonprofit is being abused by lawyers.
The illegal channeling of funds for illegal causes in USA
CANNOT FOR BE TRACED IN USA.

Gwad bless Amrikkkaaa for legal theft of charity money!!!

Without it and the fake mandates that originate from
trolls writing out the agenda, all USA politicians would
be out flipping burgers for a living.

Most of the US soldiers that ever died since or from Vietnam
days have died for an agenda written by trolls.


Asstroturfer offerings
----------------------


I've just read the contents of the fbo.gov solicitation RTB220610

The US government wants asstroturfers and with it sophisticated
asstroturfing technology to drown out democratic free speech,
and then hide from those whom it seeks to victimize.

It was point no.3 that caught my eye:
0003- Static IP Address Management

What that means is the same as what I've been saying for a while about 
doofi, flatcake and clog are true.

They are not individuals but a whole asstroturfing team
behind each sock puppet.

There isn't enough memory between the sock operators to know
or remember what had been said earlier so you know the
conversations are being typed out by multiple individuals
impersonating each other.
It was notable gaffs by the goofy doofy sock that first gave it away.

The asstroturfing teams had already gone into government and offered them
consulting services about what technology and asstroturfing
practices were out there for fbo.gov to decide what they will
purchase in solicitation RTB220610. Burson-Marstelar
won the contract performing all the activities
required in the solicitation with fantastic usenet software
tools for targeting individuals and trolling 24/7
and all built in outsourced India.


----------------------



https://www.fbo.gov/index?s=opportunity&mode=form&id=d88e9d660336be91552fe8c1a51bacb2&tab=core&_cview=1
 
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#5484

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On 2015-11-28 9:43 PM, Anonymous wrote:
> The federal government’s collection of bulk data from the telephone
> calls of virtually every American will stop at midnight Saturday,
> ending a raging controversy that began with disclosures about the
> secret program by Edward Snowden.
> 
> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific 
> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be made
> to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own data. The
> government will no longer retain the information.
> 
> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection- 
> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true

They're ending that but replacing it with more or less the same thing.


- -- 
Slimer
EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW & PETA supporter
Wretched Stallman says: "Only YOU can prevent Snit's leftist, atheist
propaganda machine."

"I am clearly quite ethical / moral." - Snit, lying shamelessly,
November 24th, 2015
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#5485

"Slimer" <.m@nsn.s> wrote in message news:n3f6hr$hg0$2@dont-email.me...
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>
>>
>> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific
>> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be made
>> to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own data. The
>> government will no longer retain the information.
>>
>> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
>> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true
>
> They're ending that but replacing it with more or less the same thing.
>

They're scrapping v1 after using it for 14 years.

It's time to bring v2.0 online.

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#5488

On 11/28/15 18:43, Anonymous so wittily quipped:
> The federal government’s collection of bulk data from the 
> telephone calls of virtually every American will stop at 
> midnight Saturday, ending a raging controversy that began with 
> disclosures about the secret program by Edward Snowden.
> 
> Beginning Sunday, if the government wants to check on a specific 
> phone number in a potential terrorism case, a request must be 
> made to the relevant telephone company for a check of its own 
> data. The government will no longer retain the information.
> 
> http://time.com/4128392/nsa-ends-phone-data-collection-
> program/?xid=gonewsedit&google_editors_picks=true
> 

I saw a similar article in 'The Register' a while back.  I'm still in
"wait and see" mode on this one.

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