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Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts

From "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net>
Newsgroups alt.comp.os.windows-10, alt.computer.security, alt.hacker, alt.privacy.anon-server, comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts
Date 2016-01-04 09:46 -0500
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
Message-ID <n6e0g2$3vb$1@dont-email.me> (permalink)
References (10 earlier) <n67etr$mv2$2@dont-email.me> <20160101223538@news.eternal-september.org> <n67h09$svv$1@dont-email.me> <20160101234103@news.eternal-september.org> <n68s3i$ph2$1@dont-email.me>

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"Slimer" <.m@nsn.s> wrote in message news:n68s3i$ph2$1@dont-email.me...
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> On 2016-01-01 11:44 PM, Roger Blake wrote:
>> On 2016-01-02, Slimer <> wrote:
>>> Thank you for that, it looks exactly like the complete solution
>>> I could propose. By the way, I agree wholeheartedly with every
>>> statement you make in your signature. :)
>>
>> As mentioned I know of Zimbra but have no direct experience with
>> it. If you try it out give us all some feedback.
>>
>> As far as the sig, thanks - in a perfect world by now we would be
>> discussing methods of execution for the miscreants in question. (We
>> might even need some new tech, like maybe an electric couch rather
>> than electric chair.) It will never happen of course, but the
>> nonsense will continue until the consequences are at least of the
>> same magnitude as the crime.
>
> The biggest issue I have with the American government's surveillance
> (as well as that of its allies in the Five Eyes Alliance), is the fact
> that the citizens themselves don't seem to care. If you bring up the
> topic, the response is always "I have nothing to hide." I always ask
> them whether they would be comfortable going on a date with someone
> and having a government employee chaperone the entire thing as well as
> the inevitable sex that follows. They wouldn't, and yet they are
> alright with the idea that the entire government, without reason or
> warrant, can look up what they do on the Internet at any time of the
> day. The government knows what sites they visit, who their friends are
> and even what kind of sexual activity they're most interested in but
> somehow that doesn't bother them until you use real-world examples.

In addition to "I have nothing to hide", there's "they're only trying to 
keep us safe".  Too many are like the frog in the pot of water that is 
slowly brought up to a boil.  It'll be too late by the they realize 
what's happened to them.

> For my part, all of my communications are now encrypted other than
> Usenet. Once Facebook removed an article I shared (and essentially
> censored it) I knew that there was no hope for that social network
> regardless of what they say. Twitter is doing the exact same by
> "defending free speech through the censoring of hateful statements."
>
>
> - -- 
> Slimer
> EFF & OpenMedia member / IFAW, Mozilla & PETA supporter
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Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jeremy Bentham <nobody@anemone.mooo.com> - 2015-12-31 11:34 +0100
  Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts edevils <use_replyto_address@devils.com> - 2015-12-31 12:29 +0100
    Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Mike Swift <mike.swift@yeton.co.uk> - 2015-12-31 11:47 +0000
      Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-01-01 05:40 -0500
        Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) - 2016-01-01 09:27 -0600
          Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-01 10:56 -0500
            Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 11:25 -0500
              Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-01 12:03 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 12:33 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts edevils <use_replyto_address@devils.com> - 2016-01-01 20:00 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 14:46 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-02 01:09 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 22:10 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-02 03:39 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-01 22:45 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-02 04:44 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-02 11:01 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts linuxiac <linuxiac@usa.com> - 2016-01-02 16:38 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-01-02 12:04 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-03 01:33 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts edevils <use_replyto_address@devils.com> - 2016-01-03 11:57 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-03 21:40 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Ed Mullen <ejEMOVER@edmullen.net> - 2016-01-03 23:22 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Roger Blake <rogblake@iname.invalid> - 2016-01-04 04:54 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Fritz Wuehler <fritz@spamexpire-201601.rodent.frell.theremailer.net> - 2016-01-05 09:05 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2016-01-04 19:06 +0000
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2016-01-04 15:18 -0600
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2016-01-04 21:57 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "PAS" <ntotrr@optonline.net> - 2016-01-04 09:46 -0500
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <anonymous@hoi-polloi.org> - 2016-01-02 09:41 +0100
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) - 2016-01-02 09:44 -0600
                Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Rolf" <rolflxxx@somecompany.com> - 2016-01-02 23:34 +0100
              Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <anonymous@foto.nl1.torservers.net> - 2016-01-02 04:14 -0500
            Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts gheston@hiwaay.net (Gary Heston) - 2016-01-01 18:02 -0600
              Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2016-01-02 16:41 -0500
            Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts "Anonymous Remailer (austria)" <mixmaster@remailer.privacy.at> - 2016-01-02 12:17 +0100
          Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-01-02 02:52 -0500
            Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-02 07:41 -0200
              Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-01-02 16:15 -0500
    Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2016-01-01 12:30 +0000
  Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Nobody <not@home.anymore> - 2015-12-31 20:56 +0000
    Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Anonymous <nobody@remailer.paranoici.org> - 2016-01-01 13:00 +0000
  Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Jack Ryan <noreply@remailer.cpunk.us> - 2016-01-01 20:22 -0500
  Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Shadow <Sh@dow.br> - 2016-01-02 07:38 -0200
    Re: Microsoft will start warning users if it detects government hacking attempts Charlie <cdknospam@msn.com> - 2016-01-06 21:12 -0500

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