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"system integration" - news?

Started by"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
First post2026-07-30 10:40 +0100
Last post2026-07-30 19:12 +0100
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  "system integration" - news? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-30 10:40 +0100
    Re: "system integration" - news? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-30 11:25 +0100
      Re: "system integration" - news? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-30 17:23 +0100
        Re: "system integration" - news? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-30 17:43 +0100
          Re: "system integration" - news? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-30 19:12 +0100

#21594 — "system integration" - news?

From"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Date2026-07-30 10:40 +0100
Subject"system integration" - news?
Message-ID<114f66c$1l9hf$1@dont-email.me>
I just let TB upgrade itself from what I had to "153.0.1esr (64-bit)";
it said it needed to do a restart (it meant of itself, not Windows), so
I let it. When it did, the TB window had appeared, over which a new
smaller window popped up, saying something like "use Thunderbird as the
default for", with tickboxes for mail, news, feed, and I think one or
two others.

Mail was already ticked, news wasn't, and feeds was ticked but greyed
out. I just clicked "skip integration" - maybe it'll pop up again next
time I start TB. (I think it is new - I don't remember seeing it on
previous upgrades. No problem.)

I was just wondering - what would ticking news do? I can understand what
ticking mail does - it mean TB is used if I click a "mailto" link on a
webpage, and I think if I click a .eml file - but what about news? (What
does _not_ having that ticked do? I seem to be reading - and posting to
- news fine.)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Veni, Vidi, Video (I came, I saw, I'll watch it again later)
- Mik from S+AS Limited (mik@saslimited.demon.co.uk), 1998

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#21597

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-07-30 11:25 +0100
Message-ID<nd0n4kF59v8U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21594
J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> what would ticking news do? I can understand what
> ticking mail does - it mean TB is used if I click a "mailto" link on a
> webpage, and I think if I click a .eml file - but what about news?

register for usenet related URLs, but they're quite a rare beast e.g

<news://uk.tech.broadcast/>

and what may be valid on my chosen server (NIN) isn't valid on yours 
(ES) e.g. to point to the start of this thread

<nntp://news.individual.net:119/alt.comp.software.thunderbird/21884>

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#21608

From"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Date2026-07-30 17:23 +0100
Message-ID<114ftpg$1ulop$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21597
On 2026/7/30 11:25:52, Andy Burns wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> 
>> what would ticking news do? I can understand what
>> ticking mail does - it mean TB is used if I click a "mailto" link on a
>> webpage, and I think if I click a .eml file - but what about news?
> 
> register for usenet related URLs, but they're quite a rare beast e.g
> 
> <news://uk.tech.broadcast/>
> 
> and what may be valid on my chosen server (NIN) isn't valid on yours 
> (ES) e.g. to point to the start of this thread
> 
> <nntp://news.individual.net:119/alt.comp.software.thunderbird/21884>

Thanks - I've ticked it anyway, as the popup does return every time I
start TB.

IMO it's rather poorly designed:

1. It has tickboxes for mail, news, something else I've forgotten
already, and calendar - but the buttons at the bottom are only "set as
default" and "skip integration". The latter just makes it come up every
time I start TB, but "set as default" doesn't seem the right label since
you can choose whether it is for the four categoties: "save my choices"
or something like that would IMO be better wording.

2. Like all such things that only pop-up once (if you accept them),
there's always the concern "how do I change my mind later" (as in "how
do I find the settings this is presenting to [concealing from] me").
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

it is easy to make up a lie, but it can take much more time and effort
to convincingly refute it. - Patrick Cockburn, i, 2016-9-24

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#21610

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-07-30 17:43 +0100
Message-ID<nd1d85F8l6aU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21608
J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> Like all such things that only pop-up once (if you accept them),
> there's always the concern "how do I change my mind later"

In this case, it's not particularly hidden

Tools > Settings > General > System Integration > Check Now

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#21615

From"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Date2026-07-30 19:12 +0100
Message-ID<114g46u$217od$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21610
On 2026/7/30 17:43:11, Andy Burns wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> 
>> Like all such things that only pop-up once (if you accept them),
>> there's always the concern "how do I change my mind later"
> 
> In this case, it's not particularly hidden
> 
> Tools > Settings > General > System Integration > Check Now
> 
> 
Thanks.

Although there it's to the right of "Always check to see if Thunderbird
is the default mail client on startup", which to me isn't intuitive as a
way of seeing if it's the default news, feeds, or calendar client.

Anyway, I tried clicking on it, and the same System Integration box
popped up - but with all the boxes other than Calendar (a) ticked and
(b) greyed out, so I can't chamge them if I want to.

I'm not that bothered, but also not impressed!
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Look out for #1. Don't step in #2 either.

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