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Fixed a wild one!

Started byT <T@invalid.invalid>
First post2026-07-03 13:13 -0700
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  Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 13:13 -0700
    Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 13:31 -0700
      Re: Fixed a wild one! "Th"?? Court in progress?? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 19:07 +0800
    Re: Fixed a wild one! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-07-03 15:27 -0700
      Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:20 -0700
        Re: Fixed a wild one! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-07-03 16:39 -0700
          Re: Fixed a wild one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-04 01:13 -0400
            Re: Fixed a wild one! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-04 13:09 +0200
            OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 10:40 -0700
              Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-04 19:34 -0400
                Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-04 17:15 -0700
                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-05 14:11 +0200
                    Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-05 14:38 +0100
                      Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 18:35 -0700
                        Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-06 04:13 -0400
                          Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:11 -0700
                            Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-07 04:20 -0400
                              Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-07 02:14 -0700
                                Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-07 06:27 -0400
                                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 23:12 -0700
                                    Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-09 07:35 -0700
                                    Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-10 00:42 +0100
                                      Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-09 17:00 -0700
                                        Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-09 17:34 -0700
                                        Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-10 15:58 +0100
                                          Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-07-10 10:32 -0500
                                            Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-10 21:57 +0200
                                              Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-10 13:28 -0700
                                              Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-10 17:24 -0700
                                                Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-11 12:42 +0200
                                                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-07-11 11:02 +0000
                                                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-11 20:58 +0100
                                                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-11 14:38 -0700
                                                    Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-12 14:02 +0200
                                                      Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-12 06:51 -0700
                                Re: OT ... leg muscle memory? kicks? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 18:50 +0800
                              Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-07 21:31 +0100
                                Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-07-07 15:29 -0700
                                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 23:15 -0700
                                    Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-10 01:00 +0100
                                      Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-09 18:00 -0700
                                        Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Dnews <dnews@triffid.co.uk> - 2026-07-10 08:05 +0100
                                        OT: Britain (was: Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one!) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-10 16:24 +0100
                                          Re: OT: Britain (was: Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one!) John <Man@the.keyboard> - 2026-07-10 21:29 +0100
                                          Re: OT: Britain T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-10 19:07 -0700
                                            Re: OT: Britain "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-11 21:10 +0100
                                              Re: OT: Britain T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-11 14:44 -0700
                                      Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-09 18:19 -0700
                                Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 18:06 -0700
                                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 20:02 -0700
                                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-09 00:06 -0400
                                    Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 23:15 -0700
                                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-10 00:45 +0100
                      Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 20:17 -0700
                        Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-06 04:33 -0400
                          Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 11:37 -0700
                            Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-07-06 11:48 -0700
                Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-07-05 10:15 -0700
                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-05 18:26 +0100
                  Re: OT -- Re: Fixed a wild one! Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-07-05 13:53 -0400
            Re: Fixed a wild one! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-07-04 10:40 -0700
              Re: Fixed a wild one! "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-07-04 18:38 +0000
                Re: Fixed a wild one! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-07-04 13:22 -0700
                  Re: Fixed a wild one! "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-07-04 20:52 +0000
                    Re: Fixed a wild one! Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-07-04 15:28 -0700
            Re: Fixed a wild one! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-07-04 23:19 +0100
    Re: Fixed a wild one! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-04 19:05 +0800
      Re: Fixed a wild one! T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-05 18:38 -0700
        Re: Fixed a wild one! Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-07-06 20:50 +1000
          Re: What is "Th"? "Tb"? Rare-earth elements? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 20:26 +0800
        Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 20:42 +0800
          Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-06 13:13 -0700
            Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 14:00 +0800
            Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 14:01 +0800
              Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-07 00:01 -0700
                Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-07 17:22 +0800
                  Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-07 12:23 -0700
                    Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-08 08:10 +0800
                      Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-08 23:46 -0700
                        Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-09 16:22 +0800
                          Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-09 02:14 -0700
        KAMEN RIDER MY-TH | Official Teaser - YouTube "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-06 21:38 +0800
    Re: Fixed ... [OT] "Jörg voice"? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-07-12 21:57 +0800
      Re: Fixed ... [OT] "Jörg voice"? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-12 19:50 -0700
        Re: Fixed ... [OT] "Jörg voice"? T <T@invalid.invalid> - 2026-07-12 20:16 -0700

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#21247

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2026-07-04 10:40 -0700
Message-ID<nasut3F3r2jU5@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21238
Paul wrote:
> Thunderbird has HTML mail, and it is supposed to support some kind
> of subset of activities. It's not allowed to support all possible
> HTML/JS.

My attitude about 'this' as an 'outlier'.

IMO I would 'rather' there be some kind of Tb 'fork', a big fork, which 
completely eschews that html engine; that could neither render nor 
create html - which is a big requirement for those who believe Tb to be 
a mail agent which MUST do html - but instead the fork would entirely 
drop html; whether it wanted to be able to DO plaintext email at all 
would possibly be at hand for the dev/s.

In my world, it only needs to be a plaintext news agent, greatly 
simplifying its duties, but it needs to be a BETTER news agent, w/ 
proper filtering w/ wildcards, regex, and scoring.

But, itseemstome that the Tb dev/s do not even *participate* in 
newsgroups, or if some of them do, not many.

There are workarounds by which I could put a proper little personal 
newsserver between my NSP and Tb to do that work, so I suppose I should 
just shut up and do something like that.


-- 
Mike Easter

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#21248

From"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Date2026-07-04 18:38 +0000
Message-ID<112bjui$bvcn$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21247
Mike Easter  <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
>Paul wrote:
>> Thunderbird has HTML mail, and it is supposed to support some kind
>> of subset of activities. It's not allowed to support all possible
>> HTML/JS.
>
>My attitude about 'this' as an 'outlier'.
>
>IMO I would 'rather' there be some kind of Tb 'fork', a big fork, which 
>completely eschews that html engine; that could neither render nor 
>create html - which is a big requirement for those who believe Tb to be 
>a mail agent which MUST do html - but instead the fork would entirely 
>drop html; whether it wanted to be able to DO plaintext email at all 
>would possibly be at hand for the dev/s.
>
>In my world, it only needs to be a plaintext news agent, greatly 
>simplifying its duties, but it needs to be a BETTER news agent, w/ 
>proper filtering w/ wildcards, regex, and scoring.
>
>But, itseemstome that the Tb dev/s do not even *participate* in 
>newsgroups, or if some of them do, not many.
>
>There are workarounds by which I could put a proper little personal 
>newsserver between my NSP and Tb to do that work, so I suppose I should 
>just shut up and do something like that.

Fork Thunderbird? Ghod intended News and Mail to be read from an 80
character wide terminal. Everything you want is availlable at the
command line.

I use a combined client, alpine, for Mail, preferring a separate
newsreader. We are better off with clients that specialize.

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#21249

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2026-07-04 13:22 -0700
Message-ID<nat8bvF5t6hU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21248
Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> I use a combined client, alpine, for Mail, preferring a separate
> newsreader.

My fave 'feature' of alpine is how it managed to integrate its functions 
with its configuration and its help.

I would like to see more software be able to do that so well.

Bravo Chappa.

> the most recent developmental version, 2.29.99, was released on May 2, 2026.

My understanding of alpine's history is that its beginning '06-09 was U 
Washington, and that Chappa is a U Washington-ite and its history since 
'13 is his doing.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#21250

From"Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Date2026-07-04 20:52 +0000
Message-ID<112brqp$fjs9$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21249
Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
>Adam H. Kerman wrote:

>>I use a combined client, alpine, for Mail, preferring a separate
>>newsreader.

>My fave 'feature' of alpine is how it managed to integrate its functions 
>with its configuration and its help.

pine did that. The extensive help and the guided rc file editing was
because UWash freshman had zero computer experience and this was their
first eposure to email. Eduardo was there when it was still pine, toward
the end, then it became alpine because UWash was concerned about losing
a copyright infringement lawsuit and had to change much of the
underlying code and libraries. Shortly after that, they fired the
programmers.

There was a fork of alpine he had nothing to do with, then he resumed
work on alpine on his own when the Re-Alpine fork was abandoned.

Regardless, I love alpine because it is the only client guaranteed to do
IMAP right, a mustphave feature for me.

I don't care for the common interface it uses for Usenet. Why users like
common interfaces is beyond me. I use it as backup only. Also, for
years, pine did pseudo threding. I think Eduardo was there when pine
finally had the ability to do genuine threading but I don't recall.

I'll stick with trn for News.

However, I use alpine fo my archive of News articles since I save them
in Berkeley fomat.

>I would like to see more software be able to do that so well.

>Bravo Chappa.

>> the most recent developmental version, 2.29.99, was released on May 2, 2026.

>My understanding of alpine's history is that its beginning '06-09 was U 
>Washington, and that Chappa is a U Washington-ite and its history since 
>'13 is his doing.

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#21255

FromMike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid>
Date2026-07-04 15:28 -0700
Message-ID<natfniF71i8U2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#21250
Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> he resumed work on alpine on his own when the Re-Alpine fork was
> abandoned.

I luv backstories. An old EC page:

https://alpineapp.email/history.html

> Copyright © 1999-2020 Eduardo Chappa. All Rights Reserved
> Last updated Sun Apr 19 11:34:20 MDT 2020 

He's at the New Mexico State U - Carlsbad NM campus/site - or, depending 
on when and where you read about the school, it is also (and now) known 
as Southeast New Mexico College.

I do know that EC is in Carlsbad AND he has/had a nmsu.edu address. 
(oops, now it is senmc.edu)

The SENMC page has the most accurate and uptodate info on the naming and 
'ownership' aspect.  Update, EC is prof of math at SENMC.

https://senmc.edu/about-us/
> About Southeast New Mexico College

Usually when something gets 'scooped up' by something 'bigger' it 
doesn't happen to go *back* to its earlier status.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#21253

From"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Date2026-07-04 23:19 +0100
Message-ID<112c0u2$h24o$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21238
On 2026/7/4 6:13:30, Paul wrote:
[]
> Now, let's return to the "T" customer. Thunderbird has HTML mail,
> and it is supposed to support some kind of subset of activities.
> It's not allowed to support all possible HTML/JS. What

I would love a control that allowed HTML up to (I think it was) 3.0, for
formatting, but disabled all scripting. In emails (and news posts) that
is; AIUI TB actually _uses_ HTML for things like its pane layout.
[]
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Actors are fairly modest...A lot of us have quite a lot to be modest
about. - Simon Greenall (voice of Aleksandr the "Simples!" Meerkat),
RT 11-17 Dec 2010

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#21239

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-04 19:05 +0800
Message-ID<112apdu$2v0p$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21224
On 7/4/2026 4:13 AM, T wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I got a wild one from a customer a few days ago.  He called
> complaining Thunderbird was acting weird and his computer
> was running like crap.
> 
> Okay.  First thing I noticed was that Th was stuck in full
> screen.  When I tried to windows it from the decoration in
> the upper right, it spawned a new small widowed instance
> and left the original in full screen.  It is kept doing it.


That doesn't look like the problem of Th?
What is "Th"? Thunderbird? Or what?

Anyway, it's more like the problem of Windows,
or an operating system that looked and feeled
like Windows.


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#21279

FromT <T@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-05 18:38 -0700
Message-ID<112f0vc$1jc0j$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21239
On 7/4/26 4:05 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 7/4/2026 4:13 AM, T wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I got a wild one from a customer a few days ago.  He called
>> complaining Thunderbird was acting weird and his computer
>> was running like crap.
>>
>> Okay.  First thing I noticed was that Th was stuck in full
>> screen.  When I tried to windows it from the decoration in
>> the upper right, it spawned a new small widowed instance
>> and left the original in full screen.  It is kept doing it.
> 
> 
> That doesn't look like the problem of Th?
> What is "Th"? Thunderbird? Or what?
  Th --> Thunderbird
> 
> Anyway, it's more like the problem of Windows,
> or an operating system that looked and feeled
> like Windows.

That is what ChatGPT though, until I tried a
new profile, the it changed its mind

Th was the only program experiencing that issue.

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#21286

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2026-07-06 20:50 +1000
Message-ID<112g1aa$1s6gp$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21279
On 6/07/2026 11:38 am, T wrote:
> On 7/4/26 4:05 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>> On 7/4/2026 4:13 AM, T wrote:
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I got a wild one from a customer a few days ago.  He called
>>> complaining Thunderbird was acting weird and his computer
>>> was running like crap.
>>>
>>> Okay.  First thing I noticed was that Th was stuck in full
>>> screen.  When I tried to windows it from the decoration in
>>> the upper right, it spawned a new small widowed instance
>>> and left the original in full screen.  It is kept doing it.
>>
>> That doesn't look like the problem of Th?
>> What is "Th"? Thunderbird? Or what?
>   Th --> Thunderbird

Hmm!! I thought 'Tb' was the accept abbreviation for 'Thunderbird'.
-- 
Daniel70

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#21291 — Re: What is "Th"? "Tb"? Rare-earth elements?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-06 20:26 +0800
SubjectRe: What is "Th"? "Tb"? Rare-earth elements?
Message-ID<112g6ue$1tvcp$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21286
On 7/6/2026 6:50 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
> On 6/07/2026 11:38 am, T wrote:
>> On 7/4/26 4:05 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>>
>>> That doesn't look like the problem of Th?
>>>
>>> What is "Th"? Thunderbird? Or what?
>>>
>>    Th --> Thunderbird
> 
> Hmm!! I thought 'Tb' was the accept abbreviation for 'Thunderbird'.

"accept abbreviation" is command or acceptance.

I believe yuo meant "acceptED abbreviation".

BTW, if you look at the periodic table,
"Th" is Thorium. And it's related to
Thor, as in Avengers. "Tb" is Terbium.

Are they all rare earth elements? ;)

And that's why I asked for his/her
confirmation. Maybe he's using
newsgruops unrelated to chemistry
to send secret encoded messages.

Well....

rare earth tb - Google 搜尋
<https://www.google.com/search?q=rare+earth+tb>

rare earth th - Google 搜尋
<https://www.google.com/search?q=rare+earth+th>

Rare-earth element - Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare-earth_element>

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#21292 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-06 20:42 +0800
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112g7rv$1v1mf$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21279
On 7/6/2026 9:38 AM, T wrote:
>>
>> Anyway, it's more like the problem of Windows,
>> or an operating system that looked and feeled
>> like Windows.
> 
> That is what ChatGPT though, until I tried a
> new profile, the it changed its mind
> 
> Th was the only program experiencing that issue.

Firstly, I didn't use ChatGPT.

Back to your problem: reinstall
your Thunderbird using offline
installer!!

Directory Listing: /pub/thunderbird/releases/
<https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/thunderbird/releases/>

If you were not allowed to do so,
then stop using that PC, and leave
the place now. You might be baited
to use a faulty PC.


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   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw
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#21304 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

FromT <T@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-06 13:13 -0700
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112h298$2bgih$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21292
On 7/6/26 5:42 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> Back to your problem: reinstall
> your Thunderbird using offline
> installer!!

That is the only way I install Th.
or Betterbird.

Did.  Didn't work.

Didn't work with Betterbird either.

Fresh profile worked with both.

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#21309 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-07 14:00 +0800
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112i4m7$2l43k$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21304
On 7/7/2026 4:13 AM, T wrote:
> 
> That is the only way I install Th.
> or Betterbird.
> ...
> Fresh profile worked with both.

Thank you for the info. :)

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#21310 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-07 14:01 +0800
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112i4oo$2l433$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21304
On 7/7/2026 4:13 AM, T wrote:
> 
> Fresh profile worked with both.

Did you backup your bookmarks and
passwors before using a new profile?

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#21311 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

FromT <T@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-07 00:01 -0700
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112i884$2m1p8$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21310
On 7/6/26 11:01 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 7/7/2026 4:13 AM, T wrote:
>>
>> Fresh profile worked with both.
> 
> Did you backup your bookmarks and
> passwors before using a new profile?
> 


I rat packed the old profile somewhere hidden that
I could get at if needed.  So in a way, yes.

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#21314 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-07 17:22 +0800
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112iggn$2o89l$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21311
On 7/7/2026 3:01 PM, T wrote:
> On 7/6/26 11:01 PM, ....  wrote:
>> On 7/7/2026 4:13 AM, T wrote:
>>
>> Did you backup your bookmarks and
>> passwors before using a new profile?
> 
> I rat packed the old profile somewhere hidden that
> I could get at if needed.  So in a way, yes.

As long as you had a backup of your old
profile, just try anything. Nothing to
lose anyway.

Did you stamp-chop your old profile with
a  date-time?  Can be very useful  some-
times.


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#21323 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

FromT <T@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-07 12:23 -0700
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112jjo2$3373u$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21314
On 7/7/26 2:22 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 7/7/2026 3:01 PM, T wrote:
>> On 7/6/26 11:01 PM, ....  wrote:
>>> On 7/7/2026 4:13 AM, T wrote:
>>>
>>> Did you backup your bookmarks and
>>> passwors before using a new profile?
>>
>> I rat packed the old profile somewhere hidden that
>> I could get at if needed.  So in a way, yes.
> 
> As long as you had a backup of your old
> profile, just try anything. Nothing to
> lose anyway.
> 
> Did you stamp-chop your old profile with
> a  date-time?  Can be very useful  some-
> times.
> 
> 

No.  I just moved it and added ".bad" as
its extension.   I have dated profiles in
the past for various reasons though.

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#21331 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-08 08:10 +0800
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112k4hm$37q2c$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21323
On 7/8/2026 3:23 AM, T wrote:
> 
> No.  I just moved it and added ".bad" as
> its extension.   I have dated profiles in
> the past for various reasons though.


It's still a backup. Make good use of it.

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#21342 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

FromT <T@invalid.invalid>
Date2026-07-08 23:46 -0700
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112ng3g$6mgt$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21331
On 7/7/26 5:10 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 7/8/2026 3:23 AM, T wrote:
>>
>> No.  I just moved it and added ".bad" as
>> its extension.   I have dated profiles in
>> the past for various reasons though.
> 
> 
> It's still a backup. Make good use of it.
> 


So far the new profile is working perfectly.

The second post I made gave the details of
what I copied to the new profile.

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#21343 — Re: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-07-09 16:22 +0800
SubjectRe: Fixed a wild ... Thunderbird? Bogus Thunderbird?
Message-ID<112nlne$89oo$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21342
On 7/9/2026 2:46 PM, T wrote:
> 
> 
> So far the new profile is working perfectly.
Backup... backup ... backup! Stamp-chop
everyone. Do it daily.

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