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  changing 'view' to unthreaded Jo-Anne <Jo-Anne@nowhere.com> - 2026-07-01 11:14 -0500
    Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-07-01 09:27 -0700
      Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Stan Brown <someone@example.com> - 2026-07-01 11:11 -0700
        Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-07-01 21:08 +0200
    Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Jo-Anne <Jo-Anne@nowhere.com> - 2026-07-02 02:34 -0500
      Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-02 08:59 +0100
        Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-02 08:34 -0700
          Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-02 16:41 +0100
            Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-07-02 10:19 -0700
              Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded dillinger <dillinger@not.invalid> - 2026-07-03 18:39 +0200
        Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Jo-Anne <Jo-Anne@nowhere.com> - 2026-07-03 11:18 -0500
          Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Jo-Anne <Jo-Anne@nowhere.com> - 2026-07-04 18:21 -0500
            Re: changing 'view' to unthreaded Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-07-05 08:13 +0100

#21188 — changing 'view' to unthreaded

Is there any way to change the default View | Sort by from Threaded to Unthreaded? The only things I 
want to see threaded are the newsgroup posts.

-- 
Thank you,
Jo-Anne

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#21190

Jo-Anne wrote:
> Is there any way to change the default View | Sort by from Threaded to 
> Unthreaded? The only things I want to see threaded are the newsgroup posts.
> 
As you said, it is in the View menu; Sort by. Alt-V-S-T or H

Threaded is the default; I prefer unthreaded. Always.

On my system, once I've changed to unthreaded, it stays changed. If you 
are sometimes using threaded and sometimes not, then you will have to 
flip it.

I use sticky keys, so a modifier followed by other keys is easy.

-- 
Mike Easter

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#21192

On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 09:27:50 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:
> 
> Jo-Anne wrote:
> > Is there any way to change the default View | Sort by from Threaded to 
> > Unthreaded? The only things I want to see threaded are the newsgroup posts.
> > 
> As you said, it is in the View menu; Sort by. Alt-V-S-T or H
> 
> Threaded is the default; I prefer unthreaded. Always.
> 
> On my system, once I've changed to unthreaded, it stays changed. If you 
> are sometimes using threaded and sometimes not, then you will have to 
> flip it.

Betterbird remembers whether each folder was set to threaded or 
unthreaded, as well as the sort order. Does Thunderbird not remember 
that?

-- 
"The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by 
those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw

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#21193

On 2026-07-01 20:11, Stan Brown wrote:
> On Wed, 1 Jul 2026 09:27:50 -0700, Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>> Jo-Anne wrote:
>>> Is there any way to change the default View | Sort by from Threaded to
>>> Unthreaded? The only things I want to see threaded are the newsgroup posts.
>>>
>> As you said, it is in the View menu; Sort by. Alt-V-S-T or H
>>
>> Threaded is the default; I prefer unthreaded. Always.
>>
>> On my system, once I've changed to unthreaded, it stays changed. If you
>> are sometimes using threaded and sometimes not, then you will have to
>> flip it.
> 
> Betterbird remembers whether each folder was set to threaded or
> unthreaded, as well as the sort order. Does Thunderbird not remember
> that?
> 
It does.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺;

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#21195

On 7/1/2026 11:14 AM, Jo-Anne wrote:
> Is there any way to change the default View | Sort by from Threaded to Unthreaded? The only things I 
> want to see threaded are the newsgroup posts.
> 

The responses here have said that once a folder is changed, it stays changed. That's not my issue. I 
have a lot of folders and a lot of subfolders that I've been organizing, and it's tedious making the 
change from Threaded to Unthreaded everywhere. For example, I've found that changing the view to 
Unthreaded at the main folder does not change the view to Unthreaded for its subfolders, so I have 
to do them one at a time.

That's why I wondered if it was possible to make Unthreaded the default. If Unthreaded were the 
default, then I would change to Threaded in only the newsgroups.

Looks like it's not possible though.

-- 
Jo-Anne

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#21196

Jo-Anne wrote:

> Looks like it's not possible though.

It *is* possible ...

Set the view of one group to be as you want your default view to be 
(sort order/unthreaded/unread/whatever)

In top right of the header of the message list pane, there is a "grid" 
icon, right-click on that
[the following steps feel awkward because the menu cascades to the left]
choose "apply current view to..."
choose "folder and its children"
choose your news server
choose the top-level of your news server again

It will ask you to confirm you want to apply the current view to the 
news server and all its children, so click OK

... BUT ...

your joy will be short lived, because before too long something will 
cause the view settings to get undone :-(

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#21201

On 2026-07-02 12:59 a.m., Andy Burns wrote:
> Jo-Anne wrote:
> 
>> Looks like it's not possible though.
> 
> It *is* possible ...

Interestingly (maybe...) what I think Jo-Anne wants is how I have my TB 
(now nagging to be 152.0.1 I note) set up.  My mail accounts launch as 
unthreaded... while E-S's groups are threaded.

> ... BUT ...
> 
> your joy will be short lived, because before too long something will
> cause the view settings to get undone :-(
> 

Contrarily, mine have held for likely years.

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#21202

Nobody wrote:

> Contrarily, mine have held for likely years.

Maybe the threaded/unthreaded setting does stick, but the sort-order 
usually doesn't stick for me ...

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#21205

On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 16:41:19 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Nobody wrote:
>
>> Contrarily, mine have held for likely years.
>
>Maybe the threaded/unthreaded setting does stick, but the sort-order 
>usually doesn't stick for me ...

Sort of.  <g>  I have a habitual accident/accidental habit for some
reason of hitting "Date" at the top right of the msg pane, and
screwing things up.

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#21221

Op 02-07-2026 om 19:19 schreef Nobody:
> On Thu, 2 Jul 2026 16:41:19 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> Nobody wrote:
>>
>>> Contrarily, mine have held for likely years.
>>
>> Maybe the threaded/unthreaded setting does stick, but the sort-order 
>> usually doesn't stick for me ...
> 
> Sort of.  <g>  I have a habitual accident/accidental habit for some
> reason of hitting "Date" at the top right of the msg pane, and
> screwing things up.

There is an add-on that's supposed to block that, I haven't tested it:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/nl/thunderbird/addon/no-message-pane-sort-by-mouse/

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#21219

On 7/2/2026 2:59 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Jo-Anne wrote:
> 
>> Looks like it's not possible though.
> 
> It *is* possible ...
> 
> Set the view of one group to be as you want your default view to be (sort 
> order/unthreaded/unread/whatever)
> 
> In top right of the header of the message list pane, there is a "grid" icon, right-click on that
> [the following steps feel awkward because the menu cascades to the left]
> choose "apply current view to..."
> choose "folder and its children"
> choose your news server
> choose the top-level of your news server again
> 
> It will ask you to confirm you want to apply the current view to the news server and all its 
> children, so click OK
> 
> ... BUT ...
> 
> your joy will be short lived, because before too long something will cause the view settings to get 
> undone :-(
> 
> 
> 
I did what you said, Andy (for the folders in Local Folders, since the newsgroups are OK as 
threaded), but nothing has changed. I closed Thunderbird and opened it again, and still the only 
folders that were changed from threaded to unthreaded were the ones I did manually for each folder.

Your suggestion should have worked, and I thank you for offering it.

-- 
Jo-Anne

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#21257

On 7/3/2026 11:18 AM, Jo-Anne wrote:
> On 7/2/2026 2:59 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
>> Jo-Anne wrote:
>>
>>> Looks like it's not possible though.
>>
>> It *is* possible ...
>>
>> Set the view of one group to be as you want your default view to be (sort 
>> order/unthreaded/unread/whatever)
>>
>> In top right of the header of the message list pane, there is a "grid" icon, right-click on that
>> [the following steps feel awkward because the menu cascades to the left]
>> choose "apply current view to..."
>> choose "folder and its children"
>> choose your news server
>> choose the top-level of your news server again
>>
>> It will ask you to confirm you want to apply the current view to the news server and all its 
>> children, so click OK
>>
>> ... BUT ...
>>
>> your joy will be short lived, because before too long something will cause the view settings to 
>> get undone :-(
>>
>>
>>
> I did what you said, Andy (for the folders in Local Folders, since the newsgroups are OK as 
> threaded), but nothing has changed. I closed Thunderbird and opened it again, and still the only 
> folders that were changed from threaded to unthreaded were the ones I did manually for each folder.
> 
> Your suggestion should have worked, and I thank you for offering it.
> 

My mistake! I didn't take it far enough. Today I tried again, and this time it worked. Thank you 
very much!

-- 
Jo-Anne

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#21263

Jo-Anne wrote:

> My mistake! I didn't take it far enough. Today I tried again, and this 
> time it worked. Thank you very much!
:-)

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