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Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla!

Started by"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
First post2026-06-22 13:30 +0800
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  Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:30 +0800
    Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:35 +0800
      President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 13:44 +0800
        Re: President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread! "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-25 20:25 +0100
          Re: I said "Please ignore... wrong topic!!" "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-26 13:34 +0800
    Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-22 07:23 +0000
      Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 17:47 +0700
        Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-22 22:22 +0000
          Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 19:40 +0800
            Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:33 +0000
              Re: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:31 +0800
                Re: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 19:59 +1000
                  Re: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 00:05 +0800
              Re: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:32 +0800
          Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 21:13 +0700
            Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 22:36 +0800
    Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 08:35 +0100
      Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 18:53 +0800
        Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 12:30 +0100
          Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:55 +0800
            Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-06-22 15:40 +0200
              Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 21:43 +0800
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-06-22 16:19 +0200
                  Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:24 +0800
                  Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:42 +0800
                    Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 16:49 +0100
                      Re: Delta updates is dangerous... Bogus Facebook website? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:31 +0800
                        Re: Delta updates is dangerous... Bogus Facebook website? Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-06-22 19:38 +0200
                          Re: Delta updates is dangerous... toys of God? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:42 +0800
                          Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:44 +0800
                            Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 19:02 +0100
                            Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-06-22 20:14 +0200
                              Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 02:27 +0800
                            Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-23 17:55 +0100
                              Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-06-23 19:15 +0200
                                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-23 18:35 +0100
                                  Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-23 17:51 +0000
                                    Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-23 19:04 +0100
                                      Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-23 18:39 +0000
                                        OT: pedestrian crossings (was: Re: Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why?) "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-23 23:35 +0100
                                          Re: OT: pedestrian crossings (was: Re: Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why?) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-24 05:15 +0000
                                            Re: OT: pedestrian crossings <-- BANG!! BANG!! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:52 +0800
                                              toylet.toylet@gmail.com is a complete asshole (was: OT: pedestrian crossings) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-24 08:24 +0000
                                                Re: toylet.toylet@gmail.com is a complete asshole "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 13:27 +0800
                                            Re: OT: pedestrian crossings "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-24 12:36 +0200
                                            Re: OT: pedestrian crossings "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-24 13:59 +0100
                                          Re: OT: pedestrian crossings Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 20:28 +1000
                                        Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 20:12 +1000
                                          Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-24 13:22 +0000
                                            Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-25 00:26 +1000
                                Re: Delta updates is dangerous... important? dull? why? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 20:07 +1000
                                  Re: Delta updates is dangerous... gentleman called "God"? english standard in Usenet? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 13:32 +0800
                              Re: Delta updates ... philosophy, religion, faith, newsgroup? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:18 +0800
                                Re: Delta updates ... philosophy, religion, faith, newsgroup? Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 20:55 +1000
                                  Re: Delta updates ... philosophy, religion, faith, newsgroup? "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-06-24 15:26 +0200
                                  Re: Delta updates ... philosophy, religion, faith, newsgroup? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 00:06 +0800
                Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:36 +0000
                  Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:21 +0800
              Re: Delta updates .... data, hash, computing, trust what? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 21:48 +0800
                Re: Delta updates .... data, hash, computing, trust what? [OT] "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2026-06-22 16:21 +0200
                  Re: Delta updates .... data, hash, computing, trust what? [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:25 +0800
              Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 23:39 +0800
                Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-22 16:51 +0100
                  Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-23 01:18 +0800
                    Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 02:07 +0000
                      Re: Delta updates ... Mozilla vs Mozilla products "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:22 +0800
                Re: Delta updates ... Intercepting Firefox delta updates Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:35 +0000
        Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-06-24 01:34 +0000
          Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 14:22 +0800
            Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! JJ <jj4public@gmail.com> - 2026-06-24 17:59 +0700
              Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 00:09 +0800
            Re: Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla! Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2026-06-24 21:10 +1000
              Re: Delta updates is ... internet: the old vs the recent "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 00:08 +0800
    President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread! "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-25 13:44 +0800

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#20984 — Delta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla!

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-22 13:30 +0800
SubjectDelta updates is dangerous! Download the executable from mozilla!
Message-ID<111aha6$19ptt$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
Does Thunderbird's text search function have filters?

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#20985

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-22 13:35 +0800
Message-ID<111ahid$19ptt$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#20984
On 6/22/2026 1:30 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> Does Thunderbird's text search function have filters?
> 

Please ignore... wrong topic!!

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    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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#21108 — President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread!

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-25 13:44 +0800
SubjectPresident Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread!
Message-ID<111if80$3hsjk$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#20985
On 6/22/2026 1:35 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
> Please ignore... wrong topic!!
> 

President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread!

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    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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#21121 — Re: President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread!

From"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk>
Date2026-06-25 20:25 +0100
SubjectRe: President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread!
Message-ID<111jvbc$3vdtr$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21108
On 2026/6/25 6:44:30, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/22/2026 1:35 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> Please ignore... wrong topic!!
>>
> 
> President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread!
> 

*ME*

There, I just replied "me".

My mother

And just for completeness, I just wrote my mother.

(In British English, we'd say "replied TO me" and "wrote TO my mother".)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

'Do you like the chair?'
'It's very comfortable.'
'It provides the illusion of comfort, which is all that life really is.'
- Douglas Adams arr. James Goss, 'Doctor Who and the Krikkitmen', 2018

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#21123 — Re: I said "Please ignore... wrong topic!!"

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-26 13:34 +0800
SubjectRe: I said "Please ignore... wrong topic!!"
Message-ID<111l31a$a0q4$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21121
On 6/26/2026 3:25 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/6/25 6:44:30, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>> President Trump: Fire all those who replied me in this thread!
> 
> *ME*
> There, I just replied "me".
> My mother
> And just for completeness, I just wrote my mother.
> (In British English, we'd say "replied TO me" and "wrote TO my mother".)

When your mom said "please ignore", do you:

a. ignore what you are seeing or listening
b. ignore her "ignore"
c. ask more questions in a loop to trick mom
d. think she said "egg lore"
e. think she said "egg more"

.... to be continued? :)

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   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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#20989

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-22 07:23 +0000
Message-ID<111antt$1bhiq$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#20984
Surely verifying the hash should be sufficient to ensure authenticity.

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#20995

FromJJ <jj4public@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-22 17:47 +0700
Message-ID<1s8grtjah7i3y.1tsto527rno3n$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#20989
On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 07:23:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> Surely verifying the hash should be sufficient to ensure authenticity.

Steam was compromised and used to spread malware.
I'm pretty sure the hashes are valid.

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#21031

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-22 22:22 +0000
Message-ID<111ccj9$1rqcg$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#20995
On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 17:47:01 +0700, JJ wrote:

> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 07:23:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> Surely verifying the hash should be sufficient to ensure
>> authenticity.
>
> Steam was compromised and used to spread malware. I'm pretty sure
> the hashes are valid.

Why was this specifically a problem with delta updates?

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#21033

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-23 19:40 +0800
Message-ID<111drbj$27ijq$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21031
On 6/23/2026 6:22 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> Steam was compromised and used to spread malware. I'm pretty sure
>> the hashes are valid.
> 
> Why was this specifically a problem with delta updates?


Steam client and its games use delta update process.

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#21059

FromLawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid>
Date2026-06-24 01:33 +0000
Message-ID<111fc4q$2lq9d$9@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21033
On Tue, 23 Jun 2026 19:40:34 +0800, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

> On 6/23/2026 6:22 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> Steam was compromised and used to spread malware. I'm pretty sure
>>> the hashes are valid.
>> 
>> Why was this specifically a problem with delta updates?
> 
> Steam client and its games use delta update process.

If they had used full updates, would that have avoided the problem?

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#21069 — Re: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-24 14:31 +0800
SubjectRe: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist?
Message-ID<111ftkv$2q468$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21059
On 6/24/2026 9:33 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> Steam client and its games use delta update process.
> 
> If they had used full updates, would that have avoided the problem?

There is NO offline isntaller for Steam client. Steam client and all 
Steam games are always online installers, that is, enforced download, 
kind of like a rape! :)

Oh no.. oh no... Steam client, Steam Service, and Steam the company are 
not dangerous!! :)


-- 

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   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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#21079 — Re: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist?

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2026-06-24 19:59 +1000
SubjectRe: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist?
Message-ID<111g9qf$2tr2e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#21069
On 24/06/2026 4:31 pm, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> On 6/24/2026 9:33 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> Steam client and its games use delta update process.
>>
>> If they had used full updates, would that have avoided the problem?
> 
> There is NO offline isntaller for Steam client. Steam client and all 
> Steam games are always online installers, that is, enforced download, 
> kind of like a rape! :)
> 
> Oh no.. oh no... Steam client, Steam Service, and Steam the company are 
> not dangerous!! :)
> 
That's right!! Steam just want to ensure you enjoy their games to your 
utmost. ;-P
-- 
Daniel70

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#21096 — Re: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-25 00:05 +0800
SubjectRe: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist?
Message-ID<111gv8s$34kob$6@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21079
On 6/24/2026 5:59 PM, Daniel70 wrote:
>>
>> There is NO offline installer for Steam client. Steam client and all
>> Steam games are always online installers, that is, enforced download,
>> kind of like a rape! :)
>>
>> Oh no.. oh no... Steam client, Steam Service, and Steam the company are
>> not dangerous!! :)
>>
> That's right!! Steam just want to ensure you enjoy their games to your
> utmost. ;-P


Delta updates are just like never-ending sexual harrassment? :)

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   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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#21070 — Re: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist?

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-24 14:32 +0800
SubjectRe: Delta updates is ... Steam client now dangerous?? Rapist?
Message-ID<111ftl1$2q468$2@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21059
On 6/24/2026 9:33 AM, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>> Steam client and its games use delta update process.
> 
> If they had used full updates, would that have avoided the problem?

There is NO offline isntaller for Steam client. Steam client and all 
Steam games are always online installers, that is, enforced download, 
kind of like a rape! :)

Oh no.. oh no... Steam client, Steam Service, and Steam the company are 
not dangerous!! :)


-- 

    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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#21036

FromJJ <jj4public@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-23 21:13 +0700
Message-ID<h7ppip00f67b.1lbnt1rru0lf7$.dlg@40tude.net>
In reply to#21031
On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 22:22:34 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 17:47:01 +0700, JJ wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, 22 Jun 2026 07:23:41 -0000 (UTC), Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
>>>
>>> Surely verifying the hash should be sufficient to ensure
>>> authenticity.
>>
>> Steam was compromised and used to spread malware. I'm pretty sure
>> the hashes are valid.
> 
> Why was this specifically a problem with delta updates?

I'm pointing that, hash doesn't mean authenticity. It only means that, the
data integrity is still intact.

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#21042

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-23 22:36 +0800
Message-ID<111e5lb$2api5$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21036
On 6/23/2026 10:13 PM, JJ wrote:
>
> I'm pointing that, hash doesn't mean authenticity. It only means that, the
> data integrity is still intact.


As long as the hash cannot be deciphered.

Do you know what delta update is now?

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   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
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#20990

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-06-22 08:35 +0100
Message-ID<n9s6tkFokgvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#20984
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

> Delta updates is dangerous! 

If you don't want delta upgrades, you can do your own full downloads, 
but please stop spreading FUD.

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#20996

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-22 18:53 +0800
Message-ID<111b46d$1f11q$3@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#20990
On 6/22/2026 3:35 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
> 
>> Delta updates is dangerous!
> 
> If you don't want delta upgrades, you can do your own full downloads,
> but please stop spreading FUD.
> 

The real problem is:

What if someone intecepted your internet connection and send a 
non-official delta update to your official Thunderbird/Firefox?

Casual walks of life never understand computer crimes and can never find 
out, notably kids, babies and stupid booby blondes. :)


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#21000

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2026-06-22 12:30 +0100
Message-ID<n9sklqFqoqnU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#20996
Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
> >> Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
>>
>>> Delta updates is dangerous!
>>
>> please stop spreading FUD.
> 
> The real problem is:
> What if someone intecepted your internet connection and send a non- 
> official delta update to your official Thunderbird/Firefox?

The .mar files are digitally signed by mozilla so FF/TB can check them.

What if someone intercepts your full download, do you check the hashes?

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#21001

From"Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com>
Date2026-06-22 19:55 +0800
Message-ID<111b7ri$1g9mj$1@toylet.eternal-september.org>
In reply to#21000
On 6/22/2026 7:30 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
> 
> The .mar files are digitally signed by mozilla so FF/TB can check them.
> 
> What if someone intercepts your full download, do you check the hashes?


I just don't know what this World's evil and good can do. And...

And computers are just my toys. :)

-- 

    @~@   Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
   / v \  May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
  /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^   https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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