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  Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-04-28 11:25 -0700
    Re: Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-04-28 11:29 -0700
    Re: Text Color VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 15:51 -0500
      Re: Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-04-28 16:53 -0700
        Re: Text Color Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-04-28 17:59 -0700
          Re: Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-04-29 07:26 -0700
        Re: Text Color VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-29 01:34 -0500
          Re: Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-04-29 07:29 -0700
    Re: Text Color "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-04-28 14:47 -0700
      Re: Text Color VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-28 17:18 -0500
        Re: Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-04-28 17:01 -0700
      Re: Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-04-28 16:57 -0700
    Re: Text Color Tariffs are biting now! <tariffs@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-29 00:30 +0000
      Re: Text Color "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2025-05-25 12:04 +0100
    Re: Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-05-29 10:58 -0700
      Re: Text Color Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-05-29 19:30 +0100
        Re: Text Color Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-05-29 12:54 -0700
          Re: Text Color The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 18:26 -0700
            Re: Text Color Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-05-29 18:42 -0700
              Re: Text Color The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 19:13 -0700
                Re: Text Color croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> - 2025-05-30 07:45 -0700

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#16476 — Text Color

When setting the color of reply text here:

Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
quoted plain text messages:|

... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
thru.

-- 
croy

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#16477

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 11:25:22 -0700, croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

>When setting the color of reply text here:

I meant to write, "quoted text".
>
>Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
>quoted plain text messages:|
>
>... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
>theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
>text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
>thru.

-- 
croy

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#16479

croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

> When setting the color of reply text here:
> 
> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
> quoted plain text messages:|
> 
> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
> theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
> text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
> thru.

Are you composing in plain text, or in HTML?

Tools/Options/Composition/General/HTML, Text Color

Are you using a CSS file to /override/ settings in Thunderbird?  The
following discusses using userContent.css to specify quoting colors:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/ejg9h0/is_it_possible_to_use_css_to_change_quote_colours/

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#16483

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 15:51:23 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> When setting the color of reply text here:
>> 
>> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
>> quoted plain text messages:|
>> 
>> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
>> theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
>> text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
>> thru.
>
>Are you composing in plain text, or in HTML?

No.

>Tools/Options/Composition/General/HTML, Text Color
>
>Are you using a CSS file to /override/ settings in Thunderbird?  The
>following discusses using userContent.css to specify quoting colors:
>
>https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/ejg9h0/is_it_possible_to_use_css_to_change_quote_colours/

No.

-- 
croy

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#16487

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:53:46 -0700, croy <croy@spam.invalid.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 15:51:23 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>
>>croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> When setting the color of reply text here:
>>> 
>>> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
>>> quoted plain text messages:|
>>> 
>>> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
>>> theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
>>> text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
>>> thru.
>>
>>Are you composing in plain text, or in HTML?
>
>No.

Um, Shirley, it must be one or 'tuther.

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#16490

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 17:59:51 -0700, Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 16:53:46 -0700, croy <croy@spam.invalid.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 15:51:23 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>>
>>>croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When setting the color of reply text here:
>>>> 
>>>> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
>>>> quoted plain text messages:|
>>>> 
>>>> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
>>>> theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
>>>> text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
>>>> thru.
>>>
>>>Are you composing in plain text, or in HTML?
>>
>>No.
>
>Um, Shirley, it must be one or 'tuther.

Ugh!  I'm composing in plain text.

-- 
croy

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#16489

croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
> 
>> croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>
>>> When setting the color of reply text here:
>>> 
>>> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When display using quoted plain text messages:
>>> 
>>> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the
>>> dark theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference
>>> (in the reply text color).  I couldn't get size to work either,
>>> although Italic did come thru.
>>
>> Are you composing in plain text, or in HTML?
> 
> No.

No, not text?  Or, No, not HTML (text with tags)? Which?  You have to
use some scheme to write a message.

>> Are you using a CSS file to /override/ settings in Thunderbird?  The
>> following discusses using userContent.css to specify quoting colors:
>>
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/ejg9h0/is_it_possible_to_use_css_to_change_quote_colours/
> 
> No.

The conversation discusses how you can use the .css file to add coloring
like you want.  Since it doesn't seem a feature of Tbird, you'll have to
decide whether to go the CSS file route, use an add-on, or forego
colorization to highlight indentation levels.

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#16491

On Tue, 29 Apr 2025 01:34:02 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>
>> VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:
>> 
>>> croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> When setting the color of reply text here:
>>>> 
>>>> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When display using quoted plain text messages:
>>>> 
>>>> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the
>>>> dark theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference
>>>> (in the reply text color).  I couldn't get size to work either,
>>>> although Italic did come thru.
>>>
>>> Are you composing in plain text, or in HTML?
>> 
>> No.
>
>No, not text?  Or, No, not HTML (text with tags)? Which?  You have to
>use some scheme to write a message.

Oof.  Sorry for that.  I compose all of my mail in plain text.
>
>>> Are you using a CSS file to /override/ settings in Thunderbird?  The
>>> following discusses using userContent.css to specify quoting colors:
>>>
>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/ejg9h0/is_it_possible_to_use_css_to_change_quote_colours/
>> 
>> No.
>
>The conversation discusses how you can use the .css file to add coloring
>like you want.  Since it doesn't seem a feature of Tbird, you'll have to
>decide whether to go the CSS file route, use an add-on, or forego
>colorization to highlight indentation levels.

-- 
croy

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#16480

On 4/28/2025 11:25 AM, croy wrote:
> When setting the color of reply text here:
> 
> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
> quoted plain text messages:|
> 
> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
> theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
> text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
> thru.
> 

No matter what colors you specify, the colors seen by the recipient of
the E-mail depends on the recipient's application and settings.  This is
true even if you compose HTML-formatted and specify colors in the HTML
markup.

-- 
David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com/>

President Trump wants all Palestinians to leave Gaza and
relocate elsewhere.  How many will he accept to relocate
in the United States?

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#16481

"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

> croy wrote:
>
>> When setting the color of reply text here:
>> 
>> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
>> quoted plain text messages:|
>> 
>> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  
> 
> No matter what colors you specify, the colors seen by the recipient of
> the E-mail depends on the recipient's application and settings.  This
> is true even if you compose HTML-formatted and specify colors in the
> HTML markup.

Very true.  You cannot force them to see how you formatted your message,
but maybe it'll look your way.  If they view as plain text, they will
see NONE of your formatting, and you can't force them to view as HTML.

Maybe croy is more interested in easily identifying quoting levels
within a reply.  My NNTP client applies color coding to indentation
levels: a different color per indentation level.  Actually I would
prefer a separate pane on the left of the message pane showing a tree
skeleton of quoting levels, especially for long threads, especially for
users that quote EVERYTHING through all subthread levels instead of
trimming to provide context just for their reply.  

There are addons that can help with highlighting quoting levels, like:

https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/quotecolors/?src=search

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#16485

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 17:18:29 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote:

>"David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
>
>> croy wrote:
>>
>>> When setting the color of reply text here:
>>> 
>>> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
>>> quoted plain text messages:|
>>> 
>>> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  
>> 
>> No matter what colors you specify, the colors seen by the recipient of
>> the E-mail depends on the recipient's application and settings.  This
>> is true even if you compose HTML-formatted and specify colors in the
>> HTML markup.
>
>Very true.  You cannot force them to see how you formatted your message,
>but maybe it'll look your way.  If they view as plain text, they will
>see NONE of your formatting, and you can't force them to view as HTML.
>
>Maybe croy is more interested in easily identifying quoting levels
>within a reply.  My NNTP client applies color coding to indentation
>levels: a different color per indentation level.  Actually I would
>prefer a separate pane on the left of the message pane showing a tree
>skeleton of quoting levels, especially for long threads, especially for
>users that quote EVERYTHING through all subthread levels instead of
>trimming to provide context just for their reply.  
>
>There are addons that can help with highlighting quoting levels, like:
>
>https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/addon/quotecolors/?src=search

Interesting (and thanks), but I'd rather not go thru the addon boogie, with
Thunderbird breaking them as fast as folks can write them.

-- 
croy

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#16484

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 14:47:41 -0700, "David E. Ross"
<nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:

>No matter what colors you specify, the colors seen by the recipient of
>the E-mail depends on the recipient's application and settings.  This is
>true even if you compose HTML-formatted and specify colors in the HTML
>markup.

Understood.  I'm just trying to show a change in my reply text while I'm
writing the reply.

-- 
croy

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#16486

On 28/04/2025 19:25, croy wrote:
> When setting the color of reply text here:
> 
> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
> quoted plain text messages:|
> 
> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
> theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
> text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
> thru.
> 


In settings change "mail.citation_color" to something else such as: #ff0000


You can find hex code for colors online.

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#16750

On 29/04/2025 01:30, Tariffs are biting now! wrote:
> On 28/04/2025 19:25, croy wrote:
>> When setting the color of reply text here:
>>
>> Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
>> quoted plain text messages:|
>>
>> ... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
>> theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
>> text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
>> thru.
>>
> 
> 
> In settings change "mail.citation_color" to something else such as: #ff0000
> 
> 
> You can find hex code for colors online.
> 
But for short, they're red, green, blue brightness across the six hex 
digits (so #FF0000 is FF 00 00 - full red, no green, no blue, i. e. it's 
red). Many things with a colour selector (I use IrfanView for most 
things to do with images) will let you slide around a colour area and 
show you the number.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver

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#16783

On Mon, 28 Apr 2025 11:25:22 -0700, croy <croy@spam.invalid.net> wrote:

>When setting the color of reply text here:
>
>Tools|Settings|Language & Appearance|Plain Text Messages|When displayuing
>quoted plain text messages:|
>
>... it doesn't seem to have any effect.  I tried changing from the dark
>theme to the light theme, but it didn't make any difference (in the reply
>text color).  I couldn't get size to work either, although Italic did come
>thru.

v139 fixed it.

-- 
croy

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#16784

croy wrote:

> v139 fixed it.

All that v139 did for me was revert from table view to cards view ... 
and made me spend 10 minutes remembering* how to set it back :-(


[*] enable quick filter and message list header, then the option is in 
the "film frame" icon at the right of the header ...

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#16785

On Thu, 29 May 2025 19:30:54 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>croy wrote:
>
>> v139 fixed it.
>
>All that v139 did for me was revert from table view to cards view ... 
>and made me spend 10 minutes remembering* how to set it back :-(
>
>
>[*] enable quick filter and message list header, then the option is in 
>the "film frame" icon at the right of the header ...

Same for me...

Also: Tools > Settings > Appearance... and scroll to the various
'radio button' options.

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#16787

On 5/29/25 12:54, Nobody wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2025 19:30:54 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>>croy wrote:
>>
>>> v139 fixed it.
>>
>>All that v139 did for me was revert from table view to cards view ... 
>>and made me spend 10 minutes remembering* how to set it back :-(

FEH!  Why do updates have to make annoying random changes?  I was hoping 
for something like 'quote colors' in 139, but NOOOOO.
>>[*] enable quick filter and message list header, then the option is in 
>>the "film frame" icon at the right of the header ...
> 
> Same for me...
> 
> Also: Tools > Settings > Appearance... and scroll to the various
> 'radio button' options.
-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "Let them eat shit."
           -- Marcel Antoinette, Marie's little-known brother

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#16788

On Thu, 29 May 2025 18:26:30 -0700, The Real Bev
<bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:

>On 5/29/25 12:54, Nobody wrote:
>> On Thu, 29 May 2025 19:30:54 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>croy wrote:
>>>
>>>> v139 fixed it.
>>>
>>>All that v139 did for me was revert from table view to cards view ... 
>>>and made me spend 10 minutes remembering* how to set it back :-(
>
>FEH!  Why do updates have to make annoying random changes?  I was hoping 
>for something like 'quote colors' in 139, but NOOOOO.

You grumble too much.

Why not do a web search on 'quote colors' and 'Thunderbird'?

You might be surprised what is offered.

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#16789

On 5/29/25 18:42, Nobody wrote:
> On Thu, 29 May 2025 18:26:30 -0700, The Real Bev
> <bashley101@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>On 5/29/25 12:54, Nobody wrote:
>>> On Thu, 29 May 2025 19:30:54 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>croy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> v139 fixed it.
>>>>
>>>>All that v139 did for me was revert from table view to cards view ... 
>>>>and made me spend 10 minutes remembering* how to set it back :-(
>>
>>FEH!  Why do updates have to make annoying random changes?  I was hoping 
>>for something like 'quote colors' in 139, but NOOOOO.

Or maybe it did...
> You grumble too much.

I was in QA.  It was my job.
> Why not do a web search on 'quote colors' and 'Thunderbird'?
> 
> You might be surprised what is offered.
It disappeared when I installed 138, along with a lot of other 
extensions etc.
If it's back, yay.

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    Don't tax me. Don't tax thee. Tax that man behind the tree.

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