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  Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Nic <nic@non.net> - 2021-05-10 08:31 -0400
    Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Dale <dale@dalekelly.org> - 2021-05-10 09:27 -0400
    Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-05-10 09:59 -0400
      Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Nic <nic@non.net> - 2021-05-10 11:38 -0400
        Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-05-10 12:50 -0400
          Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Nic <nic@non.net> - 2021-05-10 12:59 -0400
            Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-05-10 13:30 -0400
              Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Nic <nic@non.net> - 2021-05-10 14:04 -0400
            Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-05-10 17:36 +0000
          Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-10 10:26 -0700
            Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-05-10 13:38 -0400
              Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-10 20:10 -0700
            Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2021-05-12 18:23 +0100
              Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-12 10:42 -0700
      Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Torsten Villnow <t.villnow@gmail.com> - 2021-05-10 19:44 +0200
        Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> - 2021-05-10 19:13 +0100
          Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-05-10 18:26 +0000
            Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Nic <nic@non.net> - 2021-05-10 15:41 -0400
              Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-05-10 20:08 +0000
    Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Dave Royal<dave@dave123royal.com> - 2021-05-10 16:11 +0000
    Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Chris Ramsden <chris.ramsden@gmail.com> - 2021-05-10 19:55 +0100
      Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Marc Auslander <marcausl@gmail.com> - 2021-05-10 15:05 -0400
        Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2021-05-10 20:11 +0000
    Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2021-05-10 20:06 -0700
    Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2021-05-12 10:30 -0700
      Re: Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird TheSidhe <nic@none.net> - 2021-05-13 11:05 -0400

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#438 — Is it possible to receive SMS in Thunderbird

I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive text 
messages from a phone?

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#439

On 5/10/2021 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive text 
> messages from a phone?

yes,  I have received them

don't know how though

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#440

On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive 
> text messages from a phone?

I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a text 
message and received it in my Thunderbird.

Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.

-- 
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#443

On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive 
>> text messages from a phone?
> 
> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a text 
> message and received it in my Thunderbird.
> 
> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
> 

I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a text 
message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
communicate with TB?

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#445

On 5/10/21 11:38 AM, Nic wrote:
> On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive 
>>> text messages from a phone?
>>
>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a 
>> text message and received it in my Thunderbird.
>>
>> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
>>
>
> I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a 
> text message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
> communicate with TB?

All I did was enter my email address for the Recipient. The message was 
sent to my email address and received as being sent from my phone number.

-- 
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#446

On 5/10/21 12:50 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 5/10/21 11:38 AM, Nic wrote:
>> On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive 
>>>> text messages from a phone?
>>>
>>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a 
>>> text message and received it in my Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
>>>
>>
>> I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a 
>> text message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
>> communicate with TB?
> 
> All I did was enter my email address for the Recipient. The message was 
> sent to my email address and received as being sent from my phone number.
> 
Let me see if I understand you, using your phone you sent a text to your 
email address and Thunderbird received the text on your computer.

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#449

On 5/10/21 12:59 PM, Nic wrote:
> On 5/10/21 12:50 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 5/10/21 11:38 AM, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to 
>>>>> receive text messages from a phone?
>>>>
>>>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a 
>>>> text message and received it in my Thunderbird.
>>>>
>>>> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a 
>>> text message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
>>> communicate with TB?
>>
>> All I did was enter my email address for the Recipient. The message 
>> was sent to my email address and received as being sent from my phone 
>> number.
>>
> Let me see if I understand you, using your phone you sent a text to 
> your email address and Thunderbird received the text on your computer.

Exactly!

Try it.

No guarantee it will work with all cell phone providers. It did with my 
T-Mobile account.

-- 
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#455

On 5/10/21 1:30 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 5/10/21 12:59 PM, Nic wrote:
>> On 5/10/21 12:50 PM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 5/10/21 11:38 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to 
>>>>>> receive text messages from a phone?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a 
>>>>> text message and received it in my Thunderbird.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a 
>>>> text message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
>>>> communicate with TB?
>>>
>>> All I did was enter my email address for the Recipient. The message 
>>> was sent to my email address and received as being sent from my phone 
>>> number.
>>>
>> Let me see if I understand you, using your phone you sent a text to 
>> your email address and Thunderbird received the text on your computer.
> 
> Exactly!
> 
> Try it.
> 
> No guarantee it will work with all cell phone providers. It did with my 
> T-Mobile account.
> 
I am curious how TB interpreted your SMS, did it have an email address? 
Did it have your phone number?
I will try it, although ny phone has never been setup for email and has 
never made an internet connection it does receive SMS texts.

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#450

Nic <nic@non.net> wrote:
 
>Let me see if I understand you, using your phone you sent a text to your 
>email address and Thunderbird received the text on your computer.

I think that because the recipient was an email address and not a phone
number, it was gated to become an email message. Thunderbird itself isn't
an SMS client that I know of.

A phone number can be used as the recipient of an email message intended
to be received as SMS if one knows how the carrier translates its phone
numbers as email addresses, for there is no standard way to do that. But
that too is gated from email to SMS.

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#448

On 5/10/2021 9:50 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 5/10/21 11:38 AM, Nic wrote:
>> On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive 
>>>> text messages from a phone?
>>>
>>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a 
>>> text message and received it in my Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
>>>
>>
>> I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a 
>> text message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
>> communicate with TB?
> 
> All I did was enter my email address for the Recipient. The message was
> sent to my email address and received as being sent from my phone number.



I just tried the same thing. It worked here too.


-- 
Ken

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#451

On 5/10/21 1:26 PM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On 5/10/2021 9:50 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 5/10/21 11:38 AM, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to 
>>>>> receive text messages from a phone?
>>>>
>>>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a 
>>>> text message and received it in my Thunderbird.
>>>>
>>>> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a 
>>> text message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
>>> communicate with TB?
>>
>> All I did was enter my email address for the Recipient. The message was
>> sent to my email address and received as being sent from my phone 
>> number.
>
>
>
> I just tried the same thing. It worked here too.
>
>
I never received the reply on the phone.

It did appear in my email account.

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#466

On Mon, 10 May 2021 13:38:00 -0400, WaltS48 wrote:
> I never received the reply on the phone.
> 
> It did appear in my email account.

You need to use a special email address to have the phone retrieve it 
as a text message, such as 666555444@mms.att.net. The domain part of 
that address varies by cell-phone provider.

Google for "send text via email" (without quotes) and you'll find the 
list; that's what I did.

-- 
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA         https://BrownMath.com/
                                          https://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...

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#492

On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 10:26:32, Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote 
(my responses usually follow points raised):
>On 5/10/2021 9:50 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>> On 5/10/21 11:38 AM, Nic wrote:
>>> On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to 
>>>>>receive  text messages from a phone?
>>>>
>>>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a 
>>>>text message and received it in my Thunderbird.
>>>>
>>>> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a 
>>>text message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
>>>communicate with TB?
>>  All I did was enter my email address for the Recipient. The message 
>>was
>> sent to my email address and received as being sent from my phone number.
>
>
>
>I just tried the same thing. It worked here too.
>
>
Is it possible that your 'phones recognised the recipient as an email 
address, and just sent an email?

Were the messages long enough to exceed the character limit on the Short 
Messaging System?
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Philosophy is questions that may never be answered. Religion is answers that
may never be questioned.

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#494

On 5/12/2021 10:23 AM, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
> On Mon, 10 May 2021 at 10:26:32, Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> wrote
> (my responses usually follow points raised):
>>On 5/10/2021 9:50 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>> On 5/10/21 11:38 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>> On 5/10/21 9:59 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
>>>>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>>>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to 
>>>>>>receive  text messages from a phone?
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a 
>>>>>text message and received it in my Thunderbird.
>>>>>
>>>>> Still waiting for the reply from Thunderbird to my phone though.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am not sure I understand what you are saying, I am able to send a 
>>>>text message to a phone (XXXXXXXXXX@carrier.XX) but how does a phone 
>>>>communicate with TB?
>>>  All I did was enter my email address for the Recipient. The message 
>>>was
>>> sent to my email address and received as being sent from my phone number.
>>
>>
>>
>>I just tried the same thing. It worked here too.
>>
>>
> Is it possible that your 'phones recognised the recipient as an email
> address, and just sent an email?


No, that's not what happened.


> Were the messages long enough to exceed the character limit on the Short
> Messaging System?



No, it was a very short test message.


-- 
Ken

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#454

Am 10.05.2021 um 15:59 schrieb WaltS48:
> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive 
>> text messages from a phone?
> 
> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a text 
> message and received it in my Thunderbird.

Thunderbird simply receives an E-Mail as any other "ordinary" E-Mail in 
this situation; so it is not a speciality of Thunderbird - any E-Mail 
client can do this.

The magic is on the mobile phone service side: it can transfer/convert a 
SMS to an E-Mail message,

-- 
Torsten Villnow

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#456

On Mon, 10 May 2021 19:44:17 +0200, Torsten Villnow wrote:

> Am 10.05.2021 um 15:59 schrieb WaltS48:
>> On 5/10/21 8:31 AM, Nic wrote:
>>> I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive 
>>> text messages from a phone?
>> 
>> I just tested by using an email address in the Recipient field of a text 
>> message and received it in my Thunderbird.
> 
> Thunderbird simply receives an E-Mail as any other "ordinary" E-Mail in 
> this situation; so it is not a speciality of Thunderbird - any E-Mail 
> client can do this.
> 
> The magic is on the mobile phone service side: it can transfer/convert a 
> SMS to an E-Mail message,

Surely the magic would be if you could send an SMS from Thunderbird to your
mobile.
-- 
Jim S

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#457

Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

>Surely the magic would be if you could send an SMS from Thunderbird to your
>mobile.

Ask your carrier how to represent your phone number as an email address.

It's probably something like

	NXXNXXXXXX@[smsgatewayhost].yourtelephonecarrier.com

but it's proprietary to your carrier. You have to know both the phone
number and carrier to look up the email address syntax.

To send SMS via email to a T-Mobile subscriber:

	NXXNXXXXXX@@tmomail.com

SMS can be received by certain non-mobile telephone subscribers too. My VoIP
carrier allows me to receive SMS and will even forward them to email.

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#460

On 5/10/21 2:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
> Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:
> 
>> Surely the magic would be if you could send an SMS from Thunderbird to your
>> mobile.
> 
> Ask your carrier how to represent your phone number as an email address.
> 
> It's probably something like
> 
> 	NXXNXXXXXX@[smsgatewayhost].yourtelephonecarrier.com
> 
> but it's proprietary to your carrier. You have to know both the phone
> number and carrier to look up the email address syntax.
> 
> To send SMS via email to a T-Mobile subscriber:
> 
> 	NXXNXXXXXX@@tmomail.com
> 
> SMS can be received by certain non-mobile telephone subscribers too. My VoIP
> carrier allows me to receive SMS and will even forward them to email.
> 
Which VOIIP are you using? In Linux I have Twinkle and Linphone.

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#461

Nic <nic@non.net> wrote:
>On 5/10/21 2:26 PM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Jim S <jim@jimXscott.co.uk> wrote:

>>>Surely the magic would be if you could send an SMS from Thunderbird to your
>>>mobile.

>>Ask your carrier how to represent your phone number as an email address.

>>It's probably something like

>>	NXXNXXXXXX@[smsgatewayhost].yourtelephonecarrier.com

>>but it's proprietary to your carrier. You have to know both the phone
>>number and carrier to look up the email address syntax.

>>To send SMS via email to a T-Mobile subscriber:

>>	NXXNXXXXXX@@tmomail.com

>>SMS can be received by certain non-mobile telephone subscribers too. My VoIP
>>carrier allows me to receive SMS and will even forward them to email.

>Which VOIIP are you using? In Linux I have Twinkle and Linphone.

Those are both softphones. I don't use a softphone. I'm using ATAs plus
a 6-line conference phone with built-in SIP.

VoIP.ms is the VoIP provider.

They've offered SMS for a year or so now. I access messages via the Web
interface, or they get forwarded to email.

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#444

On 10 May 2021 08:31:33 -0400 Nic wrote:
>I can send text to a phone with Thunderbird, is possible to receive text 
>messages from a phone?

Some mobile operators provide an SMS-email gateway. 
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMS_gateway>

Nothing specifically to do with Thunderbird.
-- 
(Remove numerics from email address)

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