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  Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2021-05-01 12:13 +0200
    Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Teddy-Bears <Bears@invalid.com> - 2021-05-01 07:54 -0400
      Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2021-05-01 18:10 +0200
      Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-05-01 19:23 +0100
        Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Teddy-Bears <Bears@invalid.com> - 2021-05-01 20:01 -0400
        Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2021-05-01 18:37 -0700
          Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Bill H <bhtemp99@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2021-05-01 19:01 -0700
          Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-05-02 08:10 -0400
            Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-05-02 13:27 +0100
              Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-05-02 09:36 -0400
            Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2021-05-02 18:38 +0200
          Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2021-05-02 13:29 +0100
            Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2021-05-02 08:26 -0700
              Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Bill H <bhtemp99@NOSPAMgmail.com> - 2021-05-02 09:11 -0700
          Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-02 09:01 -0700
            Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-05-02 09:09 -0700
    Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-05-01 08:17 -0400
      Re: Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups "Dirk T. Verbeek" <dverbeek@xs4all.nl> - 2021-05-01 18:11 +0200

#392 — Change order of buttons (icons) above message in newsgroups

When reading a newsgroup message and I want to reply to the group I now 
need to click on the second button from the left, the first is for a 
reply to the sender.
I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these buttons 
but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.

Am I looking at the wrong place?

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#393

On 5/1/21 6:13 AM, this is what Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> When reading a newsgroup message and I want to reply to the group I now need to click on the second button from the left, the first is for a 
> reply to the sender.
> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
> 
> Am I looking at the wrong place?
Are you using the right-click customize way of editing it?

Icons above message is kinda vague to me.  I have all sorts of different ways to view a message, preview pane or full screen in a new tab. 
Still there are 2 sets of icons.  One in the header and one on the toolbar.   Yet 'customize' lets you move them around.

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#395

Op 01-05-2021 om 13:54 schreef Teddy-Bears:
> On 5/1/21 6:13 AM, this is what Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>> When reading a newsgroup message and I want to reply to the group I 
>> now need to click on the second button from the left, the first is for 
>> a reply to the sender.
>> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these 
>> buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>>
>> Am I looking at the wrong place?
> Are you using the right-click customize way of editing it?
> 
> Icons above message is kinda vague to me.  I have all sorts of different 
> ways to view a message, preview pane or full screen in a new tab. Still 
> there are 2 sets of icons.  One in the header and one on the toolbar.   
> Yet 'customize' lets you move them around.
> 

I am using the default 3-pane display.
And am talking about the buttons above/ in the top of/ the message pane.

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#397

Teddy-Bears wrote:

> Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> 
>> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these 
>> buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>> Am I looking at the wrong place?
>
> Are you using the right-click customize way of editing it?

That no longer exists in TB itself.  There is a newish add-on that 
brings back the customise option, that lets you show/hide different 
buttons and move them up/down the list ...

<https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-GB/thunderbird/addon/msghdr-toolbar-customize/?src=search>

Search TB add-ons for "Message Header Toolbar Customize"

> Icons above message is kinda vague to me.  

Presumably he means the Message pane toolbar.

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#400

On 5/1/21 2:23 PM, this is what Andy Burns wrote:
> Teddy-Bears wrote:
> 
>> Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>>
>>> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>>> Am I looking at the wrong place?
>>
>> Are you using the right-click customize way of editing it?
> 
> That no longer exists in TB itself.  There is a newish add-on that brings back the customise option, that lets you show/hide different 
> buttons and move them up/down the list ...
> 
> <https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-GB/thunderbird/addon/msghdr-toolbar-customize/?src=search>
> 
> Search TB add-ons for "Message Header Toolbar Customize"
> 
>> Icons above message is kinda vague to me. 
> 
> Presumably he means the Message pane toolbar.
> 
Yes, I kinda figured that out after all the other posts.

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Quad Core i7-8550U, 16G Memory, 512G SSD, 750G & 1TB HDDs
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#401

On Sat, 1 May 2021 19:23:15 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Teddy-Bears wrote:
>
>> Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>> 
>>> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these 
>>> buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>>> Am I looking at the wrong place?
>>
>> Are you using the right-click customize way of editing it?
>
>That no longer exists in TB itself.  

Am I missing something here?

The 'Customise' function for removing/adding still exists in my TB
78.10.0 with Windoze.

Though I do admit one cannot change the appearance order of those
items you've chosen to remain.

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#402

On May 01 2021, at 06:37 PM Nobody wrote:

> Though I do admit one cannot change the appearance order of those
> items you've chosen to remain.

That is what the original poster was trying to do... re-order them.  The 
add-on provides that capability.

Bill

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#403

On 5/1/21 9:37 PM, Nobody wrote:
> On Sat, 1 May 2021 19:23:15 +0100, Andy Burns<usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>
>>> Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>>>
>>>> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these
>>>> buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>>>> Am I looking at the wrong place?
>>> Are you using the right-click customize way of editing it?
>> That no longer exists in TB itself.
> Am I missing something here?
>
> The 'Customise' function for removing/adding still exists in my TB
> 78.10.0 with Windoze.
>
> Though I do admit one cannot change the appearance order of those
> items you've chosen to remain.


So, you can still right-click in the message header, where the From:, 
To: or Newsgroup: and Subject: fields exist and customize the Reply, 
Followup, Forward, Archive, Delete and More buttons?

I just tried that in a test profile and a newsgroup with no luck.

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#404

WaltS48 wrote:

> So, you can still right-click in the message header, where the From:, 
> To: or Newsgroup: and Subject: fields exist and customize the Reply, 
> Followup, Forward, Archive, Delete and More buttons?

With the add-on mentioned, yes.

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#406

On 5/2/21 8:27 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
> WaltS48 wrote:
>
>> So, you can still right-click in the message header, where the From:, 
>> To: or Newsgroup: and Subject: fields exist and customize the Reply, 
>> Followup, Forward, Archive, Delete and More buttons?
>
> With the add-on mentioned, yes.
>
I'm aware. :)

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#413

Op 02-05-2021 om 14:10 schreef WaltS48:
> 
> So, you can still right-click in the message header, where the From:, 
> To: or Newsgroup: and Subject: fields exist and customize the Reply, 
> Followup, Forward, Archive, Delete and More buttons?
> 
> I just tried that in a test profile and a newsgroup with no luck.

For me it works perfectly.
No more accidentally replying to the poster.

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#405

Nobody wrote:

> Am I missing something here?
> The 'Customise' function for removing/adding still exists in my TB
> 78.10.0 with Windoze.

If you have the 'customize' option then either you're running an older 
thunderbird, or you've already installed the add-on.

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#408

On Sun, 2 May 2021 13:29:51 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
wrote:

>Nobody wrote:
>
>> Am I missing something here?
>> The 'Customise' function for removing/adding still exists in my TB
>> 78.10.0 with Windoze.
>
>If you have the 'customize' option then either you're running an older 
>thunderbird, or you've already installed the add-on.

No extensions... zippo, unless you count two Real English
dictionaries... and as stated TB 78.10.0, up to date on release
channel.

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#412

On May 02 2021, at 08:26 AM Nobody wrote:

> On Sun, 2 May 2021 13:29:51 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>> Nobody wrote:
>>
>>> Am I missing something here?
>>> The 'Customise' function for removing/adding still exists in my TB
>>> 78.10.0 with Windoze.
>>
>> If you have the 'customize' option then either you're running an older
>> thunderbird, or you've already installed the add-on.
> 
> No extensions... zippo, unless you count two Real English
> dictionaries... and as stated TB 78.10.0, up to date on release
> channel.
> 

Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing.  I am talking about 
the buttons in the header to the right of the From: field.  I am not 
taking about the buttons in the toolbar under the menu and above the 
From: field.

These are the buttons that no longer have a customize option in native 
TB, but do have a "customize toolbar" option if the add-on is installed.

Bill

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#410

On 5/1/2021 6:37 PM, Nobody wrote:
> On Sat, 1 May 2021 19:23:15 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
> wrote:
> 
>>Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>
>>> Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these 
>>>> buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>>>> Am I looking at the wrong place?
>>>
>>> Are you using the right-click customize way of editing it?
>>
>>That no longer exists in TB itself.  
> 
> Am I missing something here?
> 
> The 'Customise' function for removing/adding still exists in my TB
> 78.10.0 with Windoze.
> 
> Though I do admit one cannot change the appearance order of those
> items you've chosen to remain.



Yes, you can. With the Customize dialog box open, Simply drag any button 
where you want it.


-- 
Ken

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#411

On 5/2/2021 9:01 AM, Ken Blake wrote:
> On 5/1/2021 6:37 PM, Nobody wrote:
>> On Sat, 1 May 2021 19:23:15 +0100, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>Teddy-Bears wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these 
>>>>> buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>>>>> Am I looking at the wrong place?
>>>>
>>>> Are you using the right-click customize way of editing it?
>>>
>>>That no longer exists in TB itself.  
>> 
>> Am I missing something here?
>> 
>> The 'Customise' function for removing/adding still exists in my TB
>> 78.10.0 with Windoze.
>> 
>> Though I do admit one cannot change the appearance order of those
>> items you've chosen to remain.
> 
> 
> 
> Yes, you can. With the Customize dialog box open, Simply drag any button
> where you want it.



Ignore the above. I misunderstood which buttons this was about.


-- 
Ken

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#394

On 5/1/21 6:13 AM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
> When reading a newsgroup message and I want to reply to the group I 
> now need to click on the second button from the left, the first is for 
> a reply to the sender.
> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these 
> buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>
> Am I looking at the wrong place?


That option has been missing since Thunderbird 69.0b1.

You can install the Message Header Toolbar Customize extension and use it.

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#396

Op 01-05-2021 om 14:17 schreef WaltS48:
> On 5/1/21 6:13 AM, Dirk T. Verbeek wrote:
>> When reading a newsgroup message and I want to reply to the group I 
>> now need to click on the second button from the left, the first is for 
>> a reply to the sender.
>> I am pretty sure at one time we could change the order of these 
>> buttons but presently (78.7.1 (64-bits)) I seem to miss this option.
>>
>> Am I looking at the wrong place?
> 
> 
> That option has been missing since Thunderbird 69.0b1.
> 
> You can install the Message Header Toolbar Customize extension and use it.
> 
Thanks for the tip, it works as wanted :)

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