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| Started by | Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> |
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| First post | 2021-07-06 09:47 -0400 |
| Last post | 2021-07-08 16:14 -0700 |
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How to get rid of clutter on account page Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2021-07-06 09:47 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-07-06 10:05 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> - 2021-07-06 10:08 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2021-07-06 10:58 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-07-06 11:38 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page "David E. Ross" <not_me@not_there.invalid> - 2021-07-06 20:08 -0700
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-07-06 23:28 -0500
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2021-07-07 09:26 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-07-07 18:24 -0500
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2021-07-08 12:01 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2021-07-08 16:13 -0700
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-07-08 20:15 -0500
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2021-07-07 09:08 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-07-07 09:21 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2021-07-07 09:32 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-07-07 08:56 -0500
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2021-07-07 11:23 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-07-07 18:05 -0500
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page "David E. Ross" <not_me@not_there.invalid> - 2021-07-07 08:41 -0700
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-07-06 11:32 -0500
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> - 2021-07-06 14:49 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> - 2021-07-06 15:11 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2021-07-06 16:35 -0500
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2021-07-06 16:34 -0700
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> - 2021-07-06 20:47 -0400
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> - 2021-07-06 20:03 +0200
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-07 15:21 -0700
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-07-07 16:24 -0700
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> - 2021-07-08 14:27 -0700
Re: How to get rid of clutter on account page Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> - 2021-07-08 16:14 -0700
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| From | Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> |
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| Date | 2021-07-06 14:49 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <FA1FI.621$tL2.160@fx43.iad> |
| In reply to | #772 |
On 2021-07-06 12:32, VanguardLH wrote: > Wolf K<wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> I have all accounts listed separately, which the folder tree usually >> collapsed. So when I click on an account name, the tab shows all kinds >> of stuff I don't need. How do I get rid of it? >> >> TB 78.11.0 > How is any settings group for an account considered unwanted? You need > all those settings. Many users would like even more settings (i.e., > more feature enhancements). [...] Sure, but why duplicate what's in the toolbar? Seems to me that if I set the toolbar, the pane should have no buttons; and viuce versa. Anyhow, this is about taste/whim/desire/preferences/and such, so there's no right/wrong. There's at most ergonomically better/worse, plus the attempt to please most users. You can't please everyone. :-) Best, -- Wolf K kirkwood40.blogspot.com "How we spend our days is, of course, how we spend our lives." (Annie Dillard)
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| From | knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> |
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| Date | 2021-07-06 15:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <sc29tp$g37$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #772 |
On 7/6/2021 12:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote: > Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote: > >> I have all accounts listed separately, which the folder tree usually >> collapsed. So when I click on an account name, the tab shows all kinds >> of stuff I don't need. How do I get rid of it? >> >> TB 78.11.0 > > How is any settings group for an account considered unwanted? You need > all those settings. Many users would like even more settings (i.e., > more feature enhancements). > > https://user-media-prod-cdn.itsre-sumo.mozilla.net/uploads/gallery/images/2018-01-30-19-47-19-59841a.png > That screen was replaced and is not available as such in TB Version 78. For anyone who uses the foldlers I do not see why it was changed. It just adds another lay of fluff to get to the account settings.
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| From | VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> |
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| Date | 2021-07-06 16:35 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1mqqduoxbbead$.dlg@v.nguard.lh> |
| In reply to | #775 |
knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > On 7/6/2021 12:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote: >> Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote: >> >>> I have all accounts listed separately, which the folder tree usually >>> collapsed. So when I click on an account name, the tab shows all kinds >>> of stuff I don't need. How do I get rid of it? >>> >>> TB 78.11.0 >> >> How is any settings group for an account considered unwanted? You need >> all those settings. Many users would like even more settings (i.e., >> more feature enhancements). >> >> https://user-media-prod-cdn.itsre-sumo.mozilla.net/uploads/gallery/images/2018-01-30-19-47-19-59841a.png >> > > That screen was replaced and is not available as such in TB Version 78. > > For anyone who uses the foldlers I do not see why it was changed. It > just adds another lay of fluff to get to the account settings. Doesn't appear, after rereading the OP's message, that it's the settings dialog he doesn't like some fluff content. However, I did find: https://blog.thunderbird.net/files/2020/07/account-setup.png Looks like Mozilla is trying to simplify account setup by presenting wizard-like frontends. Lots of other clients take the same "our users are boobs and need hand holding" approach. Lots of users have no clue what all the settings mean nor will they expend any effort to learn them. After all, how many times has a user asked how to configure or customize a program only to be told it's a setting? So, we get dumbed down config GUIs for the ignoble masses. Telnet is at in a command shell too hard for most users, so HyperTerm was born to have a pretty window and toolbar. FTP can be ran from a command line, but the boobs won't learn the command set, so FTPzilla showed up. Apparently walking through all the settings possible to define an account in Tbird is beyond the mental grasp of many of its users. However, I'm not sure stepping through a wizard would take more effort by a boob or expert user than having to walk through every settings group in a folder tree for an account. It will take more effort to describe how to get somewhere through the wizards than just giving the nav path through the folder tree.
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| From | Nobody <jock@soccer.com> |
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| Date | 2021-07-06 16:34 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <71p9egthpg8fc3ehpk8g2f87q0uad4npa8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #776 |
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 16:35:07 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: >knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> On 7/6/2021 12:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote: >>> Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>> >>>> I have all accounts listed separately, which the folder tree usually >>>> collapsed. So when I click on an account name, the tab shows all kinds >>>> of stuff I don't need. How do I get rid of it? >>>> >>>> TB 78.11.0 >>> >>> How is any settings group for an account considered unwanted? You need >>> all those settings. Many users would like even more settings (i.e., >>> more feature enhancements). >>> >>> https://user-media-prod-cdn.itsre-sumo.mozilla.net/uploads/gallery/images/2018-01-30-19-47-19-59841a.png >>> >> >> That screen was replaced and is not available as such in TB Version 78. >> >> For anyone who uses the foldlers I do not see why it was changed. It >> just adds another lay of fluff to get to the account settings. > >Doesn't appear, after rereading the OP's message, that it's the settings >dialog he doesn't like some fluff content. Wolf hasn't been exactly precise in his description, but seems to want to take housekeeping to a picky level! Jumping to a conclusion, I presume he means in View - Layout - (Folder Pane) selected, once he has collapsed his folder tree, and then selects any account name, all he wants to "see" amounts to a blank page. Unless a user is adjusting or changing something in an account, why even select 'Account Name' in the first place? On opening, fire up TB to the last used folder... probably Inbox for a user's primary account... or whatever.
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| From | WaltS48 <schw01@invalid.net> |
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| Date | 2021-07-06 20:47 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <zQ6FI.387$6U5.318@fx02.iad> |
| In reply to | #777 |
On 7/6/21 7:34 PM, Nobody wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 16:35:07 -0500, VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> wrote: > >> knuttle <keith_nuttle@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> >>> On 7/6/2021 12:32 PM, VanguardLH wrote: >>>> Wolf K <wolfmac@sympatico.ca> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I have all accounts listed separately, which the folder tree usually >>>>> collapsed. So when I click on an account name, the tab shows all kinds >>>>> of stuff I don't need. How do I get rid of it? >>>>> >>>>> TB 78.11.0 >>>> How is any settings group for an account considered unwanted? You need >>>> all those settings. Many users would like even more settings (i.e., >>>> more feature enhancements). >>>> >>>> https://user-media-prod-cdn.itsre-sumo.mozilla.net/uploads/gallery/images/2018-01-30-19-47-19-59841a.png >>>> >>> That screen was replaced and is not available as such in TB Version 78. >>> >>> For anyone who uses the foldlers I do not see why it was changed. It >>> just adds another lay of fluff to get to the account settings. >> Doesn't appear, after rereading the OP's message, that it's the settings >> dialog he doesn't like some fluff content. > > Wolf hasn't been exactly precise in his description, but seems to want > to take housekeeping to a picky level! > > Jumping to a conclusion, I presume he means in View - Layout - (Folder > Pane) selected, once he has collapsed his folder tree, and then > selects any account name, all he wants to "see" amounts to a blank > page. > > Unless a user is adjusting or changing something in an account, why > even select 'Account Name' in the first place? > > On opening, fire up TB to the last used folder... probably Inbox for a > user's primary account... or whatever. > > > He is talking about the Account Central/Hub in the tab when an account is selected in the Folder Pane. <https://imgur.com/HyJtcLk> -- OS: Fedora 34 Workstation - Gnome 40 Desktop https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/ Lock him up! Lock him up!
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| From | dillinger <dillinger@invalid.not> |
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| Date | 2021-07-06 20:03 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <6gierhxg8h.ln2@spock.lan> |
| In reply to | #767 |
On 7/6/21 3:47 PM, Wolf K wrote: > I have all accounts listed separately, which the folder tree usually > collapsed. So when I click on an account name, the tab shows all kinds > of stuff I don't need. How do I get rid of it? > > TB 78.11.0 > > TIA > You don't, there used to be an add-on (Mail Summaries) that replaced all that redundant stuff with something more useful but that doesn't work any more.
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| From | Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2021-07-07 15:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3b4fc8c0a64ca08298fde7@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #767 |
On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:47:15 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
>
> I have all accounts listed separately, which the folder tree usually
> collapsed. So when I click on an account name, the tab shows all kinds
> of stuff I don't need. How do I get rid of it?
>
> TB 78.11.0
>
> TIA
Assuming the "stuff" you're talking about is mail folders ...
Right-click on the ones you want to see and select "Favorite". Then
in the View menu select Folders » Favorites.
You need do this only once; Thunderbird remembers.
--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
https://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-07-07 16:24 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ikmrddFlvfnU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #788 |
On 7/7/2021 3:21 PM, Stan Brown wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:47:15 -0400, Wolf K wrote: >> >> I have all accounts listed separately, which the folder tree usually >> collapsed. So when I click on an account name, the tab shows all kinds >> of stuff I don't need. How do I get rid of it? >> >> TB 78.11.0 >> >> TIA > > Assuming the "stuff" you're talking about is mail folders ... > > Right-click on the ones you want to see and select "Favorite". Then > in the View menu select Folders » Favorites. I don't think that's what he was talking about, but *I* just did what you suggested and I thank you for the suggestion. It greatly improves my folder bar. -- Ken
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| From | Stan Brown <the_stan_brown@fastmail.fm> |
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| Date | 2021-07-08 14:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <MPG.3b510db6fa6ae70c98fde8@news.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #791 |
On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 16:24:29 -0700, Ken Blake wrote:
>
> On 7/7/2021 3:21 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
> > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:47:15 -0400, Wolf K wrote:
[snip]
> > Assuming the "stuff" you're talking about is mail folders ...
> >
> > Right-click on the ones you want to see and select "Favorite". Then
> > in the View menu select Folders » Favorites.
>
> I don't think that's what he was talking about, but *I* just did what
> you suggested and I thank you for the suggestion. It greatly improves my
> folder bar.
Excellent! Even though I wasn't sure I had guessed right, I went
ahead and posted in case it could help someone else.
--
Stan Brown, Tehachapi, California, USA https://BrownMath.com/
https://OakRoadSystems.com/
Shikata ga nai...
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| From | Ken Blake <ken@invalidemail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-07-08 16:14 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <ikpf6rF6q3cU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #799 |
On 7/8/2021 2:27 PM, Stan Brown wrote: > On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 16:24:29 -0700, Ken Blake wrote: >> >> On 7/7/2021 3:21 PM, Stan Brown wrote: >> > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 09:47:15 -0400, Wolf K wrote: > [snip] >> > Assuming the "stuff" you're talking about is mail folders ... >> > >> > Right-click on the ones you want to see and select "Favorite". Then >> > in the View menu select Folders » Favorites. >> >> I don't think that's what he was talking about, but *I* just did what >> you suggested and I thank you for the suggestion. It greatly improves my >> folder bar. > > Excellent! Even though I wasn't sure I had guessed right, I went > ahead and posted in case it could help someone else. It did. Thanks again. -- Ken
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