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  Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-15 22:15 +0100
    Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2026-08-15 15:10 -0700
      Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post None <none@none.none> - 2026-08-15 17:25 -0500
        Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2026-08-15 16:32 -0700
          Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-16 00:41 +0100
            Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-15 22:35 -0700
              Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-16 19:47 +0100
                Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 13:31 -0700
                  Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Frank Miller <miller@posteo.ee> - 2026-08-16 23:53 +0200
                    Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-16 15:06 -0700
                  Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-17 13:04 +0200
                    Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-17 13:35 +0100
                      Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-17 14:52 +0200
                        Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-17 15:12 +0100
                          Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-08-17 19:45 +0200
                      Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:17 -0700
                    Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2026-08-17 12:12 -0700
            Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-08-16 10:13 +0100
              Re: Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-08-16 19:55 +0100

#21786 — Keyboard shortcut for keep ("star") a post

Is there one? I've looked through the menus, and my copy of
support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-thunderbird, but can't
see one - but could have missed it, it's a big document.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

Everyone looks sun-kissed and beautiful and as you watch it ["Bondi
Rescue"], pale and flabby on your sofa, you find yourself wondering if
your life could ever be that exotic. (It couldn't. You're British.)
- Russell Howard, in Radio Times, 20-26 April 2013

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#21787

On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 22:15:57 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
<G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

>Is there one? I've looked through the menus, and my copy of
>support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-thunderbird, but can't
>see one - but could have missed it, it's a big document.

According to this help file (in Help > Keyboard Shortcuts), it's a
simple "S"... but I haven't tried it:

<https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/keyboard-shortcuts-thunderbird?redirectslug=keyboard-shortcuts&redirectlocale=en-US>

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#21788

On 08/15/2026 17:10, Nobody wrote:
> On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 22:15:57 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
> 
>>Is there one? .
> 
> According to this help file (in Help > Keyboard Shortcuts), it's a
> simple "S"... but I haven't tried it:

I have-and it works.

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#21789

On 8/15/2026 3:25 PM, None wrote:
> On 08/15/2026 17:10, Nobody wrote:
>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 22:15:57 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> Is there one? .
>>
>> According to this help file (in Help > Keyboard Shortcuts), it's a
>> simple "S"... but I haven't tried it:
> 
> I have-and it works.
> 

Since I am right-handed and 's' is at the left of my keyboard, it is
easier merely to use my mouse in my right hand to click on the message
under the star in the column header.

-- 

David E. Ross
<http://www.rossde.com>

NO, not everyone has a smart phone.  My wife and I have
"dumb cell phones" and a land-line.  Neither of us can
handle QR codes, reply to text messages, or have any
kind of phone-based Internet connections.  We have no APS
on any phone.  We can send and receive photos only
through our desktop PCs.

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#21790

On 2026/8/16 0:32:49, David E. Ross wrote:
> On 8/15/2026 3:25 PM, None wrote:
>> On 08/15/2026 17:10, Nobody wrote:
>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 22:15:57 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Is there one? .
>>>
>>> According to this help file (in Help > Keyboard Shortcuts), it's a
>>> simple "S"... but I haven't tried it:
>>
>> I have-and it works.
>>
Ah, S for save or star - I should have thought of that! And yes, it is
in that file I have a print of - I just hadn't spotted it. (It's under
"tagging and marking", which I suppose makes sense.)>
> Since I am right-handed and 's' is at the left of my keyboard, it is
> easier merely to use my mouse in my right hand to click on the message
> under the star in the column header.
> 
I have my mouse under my left hand :-) (But still often find keyboard
things easier, especially when I'm using the keyboard anyway. Everyone's
MVs.)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

One of my tricks as an armchair futurist is to "predict"  things that
are already happening and watch people tell me it will never happen.
Scott Adams, 2015-3-9

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#21791

On 8/15/26 16:41, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/8/16 0:32:49, David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 8/15/2026 3:25 PM, None wrote:
>>> On 08/15/2026 17:10, Nobody wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 15 Aug 2026 22:15:57 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
>>>> <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Is there one? .
>>>>
>>>> According to this help file (in Help > Keyboard Shortcuts), it's a
>>>> simple "S"... but I haven't tried it:
>>>
>>> I have-and it works.
>>>
> Ah, S for save or star - I should have thought of that! And yes, it is
> in that file I have a print of - I just hadn't spotted it. (It's under
> "tagging and marking", which I suppose makes sense.)>
>> Since I am right-handed and 's' is at the left of my keyboard, it is
>> easier merely to use my mouse in my right hand to click on the message
>> under the star in the column header.
>> 
> I have my mouse under my left hand :-) (But still often find keyboard
> things easier, especially when I'm using the keyboard anyway. Everyone's
> MVs.)

I wish there were ways to write-protect messages (and firefox tabs). 
Just starring or tagging isn't good enough.

-- 
Cheers, Bev

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#21795

On 2026/8/16 6:35:32, The Real Bev wrote:
[]
> I wish there were ways to write-protect messages (and firefox tabs). 
> Just starring or tagging isn't good enough.
> 
By write-protect, do you mean protect from deletion, for messages? (For
tabs - I'm Edge - I don't have many problems of deletion: my main one is
accidental drag-tp-(make-)new-window.)
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from a simpler system that worked just fine

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#21797

On 8/16/26 11:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> On 2026/8/16 6:35:32, The Real Bev wrote:
> []
>> I wish there were ways to write-protect messages (and firefox tabs). 
>> Just starring or tagging isn't good enough.
>> 
> By write-protect, do you mean protect from deletion, for messages? (For
> tabs - I'm Edge - I don't have many problems of deletion: my main one is
> accidental drag-tp-(make-)new-window.)

Messages in TB and tabs in FF.  I want to delete a lot of the mail I 
get, but I'd like some to NEVER be deleted.  Moving it elsewhere is 
undesirable.  For some inexplicable reason FF tabs delete themselves 
sometimes and I'd just as soon have that controllable.  "Pinning" just 
makes them invisible, which seems wrong on several levels.

FF does that drag-to-new-window thing too, which is miserably annoying. 
Who even wants such a thing?

-- 
Cheers, Bev
   "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
                                                      -- Lionel

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#21798

The Real Bev wrote:
> On 8/16/26 11:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2026/8/16 6:35:32, The Real Bev wrote:
>> []
>>> I wish there were ways to write-protect messages (and firefox tabs). 
>>> Just starring or tagging isn't good enough.
>>> 
>> By write-protect, do you mean protect from deletion, for messages? (For
>> tabs - I'm Edge - I don't have many problems of deletion: my main one is
>> accidental drag-tp-(make-)new-window.)
> 
> Messages in TB and tabs in FF.  I want to delete a lot of the mail I 
> get, but I'd like some to NEVER be deleted.  Moving it elsewhere is 
> undesirable.  For some inexplicable reason FF tabs delete themselves 
> sometimes and I'd just as soon have that controllable.  "Pinning" just 
> makes them invisible, which seems wrong on several levels.

Bookmarks and Local Folders anyone?

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#21799

On 8/16/26 14:53, Frank Miller wrote:
> The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 8/16/26 11:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> On 2026/8/16 6:35:32, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> []
>>>> I wish there were ways to write-protect messages (and firefox tabs). 
>>>> Just starring or tagging isn't good enough.
>>>> 
>>> By write-protect, do you mean protect from deletion, for messages? (For
>>> tabs - I'm Edge - I don't have many problems of deletion: my main one is
>>> accidental drag-tp-(make-)new-window.)
>> 
>> Messages in TB and tabs in FF.  I want to delete a lot of the mail I 
>> get, but I'd like some to NEVER be deleted.  Moving it elsewhere is 
>> undesirable.  For some inexplicable reason FF tabs delete themselves 
>> sometimes and I'd just as soon have that controllable.  "Pinning" just 
>> makes them invisible, which seems wrong on several levels.
> 
> Bookmarks and Local Folders anyone?

I know about those.  Not what I want.  I want to keep stuff in the 
folder it actually belongs in without any danger of losing it when I 
clean out the kruft and bookmarks don't necessarily keep the history, 
which is probably why I want to keep THAT tab.

Yeahyeahyeah, never satisfied...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
=========================================
"Welcome to Hell, here's your accordion."

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#21802

On 2026-08-16 22:31, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 8/16/26 11:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>> On 2026/8/16 6:35:32, The Real Bev wrote:
>> []
>>> I wish there were ways to write-protect messages (and firefox tabs). 
>>> Just starring or tagging isn't good enough.
>>>
>> By write-protect, do you mean protect from deletion, for messages? (For
>> tabs - I'm Edge - I don't have many problems of deletion: my main one is
>> accidental drag-tp-(make-)new-window.)
> 
> Messages in TB and tabs in FF.  I want to delete a lot of the mail I 
> get, but I'd like some to NEVER be deleted.  Moving it elsewhere is 
> undesirable.  For some inexplicable reason FF tabs delete themselves 
> sometimes and I'd just as soon have that controllable.  "Pinning" just 
> makes them invisible, which seems wrong on several levels.
> 
> FF does that drag-to-new-window thing too, which is miserably annoying. 
> Who even wants such a thing?
> 

Mail can not be protected from deletion because the engine in the back 
(imap) does not support that feature, so forget it. Just move or copy 
mail elsewhere.

I have never seen FFx tabs disappear, and I have thousands of them. I 
use Linux, though.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#21803

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> I have never seen FFx tabs disappear

There's a way I know of that tabs can disappear ...

If you have e.g. one FF window open with hundreds of tabs (which you 
want to keep) plus a second window open with only a couple of tabs 
(which you don't care about)

You close the window with the hundreds of tabs, then exit FF, when you 
restart it only remembers the couple of tabs :-(

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#21804

On 2026-08-17 14:35, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> I have never seen FFx tabs disappear
> 
> There's a way I know of that tabs can disappear ...
> 
> If you have e.g. one FF window open with hundreds of tabs (which you 
> want to keep) plus a second window open with only a couple of tabs 
> (which you don't care about)
> 
> You close the window with the hundreds of tabs, then exit FF, when you 
> restart it only remembers the couple of tabs :-(
> 
> 

If you close the window and exit, it is your fault. Don't close it and 
exit. Before exit, you can recover the window.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#21806

Carlos E. R. wrote:

> Andy Burns wrote:
>
>> There's a way I know of that tabs can disappear ...
>>
>> If you have e.g. one FF window open with hundreds of tabs (which you 
>> want to keep) plus a second window open with only a couple of tabs 
>> (which you don't care about)
>>
>> You close the window with the hundreds of tabs, then exit FF, when you 
>> restart it only remembers the couple of tabs :-(
> 
> If you close the window and exit, it is your fault. Don't close it and 
> exit. Before exit, you can recover the window.
It's easy enough to do by accident though ...

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#21807

On 2026-08-17 16:12, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> Andy Burns wrote:
>>
>>> There's a way I know of that tabs can disappear ...
>>>
>>> If you have e.g. one FF window open with hundreds of tabs (which you 
>>> want to keep) plus a second window open with only a couple of tabs 
>>> (which you don't care about)
>>>
>>> You close the window with the hundreds of tabs, then exit FF, when 
>>> you restart it only remembers the couple of tabs :-(
>>
>> If you close the window and exit, it is your fault. Don't close it and 
>> exit. Before exit, you can recover the window.
> It's easy enough to do by accident though ...

Maybe... depends on your habits. Has not happened to me.

-- 
Cheers,
        Carlos E.R.
        ES🇪🇸, EU🇪🇺.

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#21809

On 8/17/26 05:35, Andy Burns wrote:
> Carlos E. R. wrote:
> 
>> I have never seen FFx tabs disappear
> 
> There's a way I know of that tabs can disappear ...
> 
> If you have e.g. one FF window open with hundreds of tabs (which you
> want to keep) plus a second window open with only a couple of tabs
> (which you don't care about)
> 
> You close the window with the hundreds of tabs, then exit FF, when you
> restart it only remembers the couple of tabs :-(

That happened ONCE and is why I hate the concept of starting a new 
window :-( The new accidental window was created behind the REAL window 
and I shut the REAL window first :-(  When I turn my machine off I close 
each window by hand -- I simply don't trust control-backspace to do it 
properly.  Would the same thing have happened had I not closed the main 
window by hand?  I'll never know...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
     He's your god.  They're your rules.  *You* burn in hell!

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#21808

On 8/17/26 04:04, Carlos E. R. wrote:
> On 2026-08-16 22:31, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 8/16/26 11:47, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
>>> On 2026/8/16 6:35:32, The Real Bev wrote:
>>> []
>>>> I wish there were ways to write-protect messages (and firefox tabs). 
>>>> Just starring or tagging isn't good enough.
>>>>
>>> By write-protect, do you mean protect from deletion, for messages? (For
>>> tabs - I'm Edge - I don't have many problems of deletion: my main one is
>>> accidental drag-tp-(make-)new-window.)
>> 
>> Messages in TB and tabs in FF.  I want to delete a lot of the mail I 
>> get, but I'd like some to NEVER be deleted.  Moving it elsewhere is 
>> undesirable.  For some inexplicable reason FF tabs delete themselves 
>> sometimes and I'd just as soon have that controllable.  "Pinning" just 
>> makes them invisible, which seems wrong on several levels.
>> 
>> FF does that drag-to-new-window thing too, which is miserably annoying. 
>> Who even wants such a thing?
> 
> Mail can not be protected from deletion because the engine in the back
> (imap) does not support that feature, so forget it. Just move or copy
> mail elsewhere.
> 
> I have never seen FFx tabs disappear, and I have thousands of them. I
> use Linux, though.

So do I. Slackware 14.2.  Don't ask.  Probably no more than 50 at a 
time, but perhaps a dozen that I NEVER want to close -- and sometimes 
they disappear.  Anomalies happen.  Sometimes xscreensaver doesn't 
start.  Same with xdaliclock.  Sometimes I can't see reCaptchas.  I 
can't leave TB folders in the 'unread' state;  when I leave TB it goes 
back to the not-unread state. I put it down to developers considering 
only apple and windows and ignoring the way linux does things until 
somebody hits them with a cluebat -- and even then they just do a 
quick-and-dirty fix because Hey, it's only a few users...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
     He's your god.  They're your rules.  *You* burn in hell!

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#21792

J. P. Gilliver wrote:

> Ah, S for save or star - I should have thought of that! 
Doesn't require thought, just scan through the menu (in this case under 
Message > Mark) and see if there's a keyboard shortcut for the action 
you want.

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#21796

On 2026/8/16 10:13:51, Andy Burns wrote:
> J. P. Gilliver wrote:
> 
>> Ah, S for save or star - I should have thought of that! 
> Doesn't require thought, just scan through the menu (in this case under 
> Message > Mark) and see if there's a keyboard shortcut for the action 
> you want.

My bad; I looked under Tools, and Message, but didn't look under the
sub-menu.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

A complex system that does not work is invariably found to have evolved
from a simpler system that worked just fine

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