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  Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-23 15:02 +0000
    Re: Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-05-23 08:07 -0700
      Re: Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. knuttle <keith_nuttle@yahoo.com> - 2025-05-23 17:36 -0400
      Re: Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. Nil <rednoise9@rednoise9.invalid> - 2025-05-23 23:32 -0400
        Re: Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-25 07:50 -0700
          Re: Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> - 2025-05-28 11:11 -0400
            Re: Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. Wayne <wayne@nospam.com> - 2025-05-28 11:18 -0400
              Re: Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 18:59 -0700
            Re: Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025. The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 18:57 -0700
    Thunderbird v139.0.1 Release Notes for 6/2/2025 ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-05-31 22:28 +0000
      Re: Thunderbird v139.0.1 Release Notes for 6/2/2025 Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-06-02 11:18 -0700
        Re: Thunderbird v139.0.1 Release Notes for 6/2/2025 "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> - 2025-06-02 20:34 +0200
          Re: Thunderbird v139.0.1 Release Notes for 6/2/2025 Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-06-02 13:30 -0700
    Updated Thunderbirds' release notes for June 10, 2025! ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-06-08 04:47 +0000

#16743 — Thunderbirds' Release Notes for May 27th, 2025.

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.0esr/releasenotes
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/
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#16744

On Fri, 23 May 2025 15:02:36 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
wrote:

>https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.0esr/releasenotes
>https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/

Hmm... manually sort folders in folder pane...

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#16745

On 05/23/2025 11:07 AM, Nobody wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2025 15:02:36 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
> wrote:
> 
>> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.0esr/releasenotes
>> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/
> 
> Hmm... manually sort folders in folder pane...
That is four day from today,  I am just getting through four weeks of 
the installation of Windows 11 on three computers, and a hassle with the 
software on my TV.  (I beat MS security and have three W11 computers 
sharing files.) I can not think that far ahead.

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#16746

On 23 May 2025, Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote in
alt.comp.software.thunderbird: 

> On Fri, 23 May 2025 15:02:36 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
> wrote:
> 
>>https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.0esr/releaseno
>>tes 
>>https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/ 
> 
> Hmm... manually sort folders in folder pane...

Maybe/hopefully this is the functionality that used to be provided by 
the "Manually Sort Folders" add-on that became incompatible a few 
versions back. The author has claimed that he submitted it to Mozilla 
to be incorporated into the main program, but that they seemed to be 
stonewalling him. Maybe it finally happened. It's a feature that I 
enjoyed but didn't depend on.

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#16752

On 5/23/25 20:32, Nil wrote:
> On 23 May 2025, Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote in
> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
> 
>> On Fri, 23 May 2025 15:02:36 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
>> wrote:
>> 
>>>https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.0esr/releaseno
>>>tes 
>>>https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/ 
>> 
>> Hmm... manually sort folders in folder pane...
> 
> Maybe/hopefully this is the functionality that used to be provided by
> the "Manually Sort Folders" add-on that became incompatible a few
> versions back. The author has claimed that he submitted it to Mozilla
> to be incorporated into the main program, but that they seemed to be
> stonewalling him. Maybe it finally happened. It's a feature that I
> enjoyed but didn't depend on.

Ditto.

I was recently forced to update from 82 to 138 and was appalled at what 
was lost.  I still am, but I am nothing if not resilient.  Heretofore I 
had no reason to look at the release notes, but I just looked here and 
was shocked by the number of problems that were apparently fixed.  I 
never saw ANY of those problems in 82, so all must have been generated 
by the 'improvements' thereafter.

With any luck, TB may approach the functionality and appearance of 82 
within my lifetime -- but I'm not counting on it.

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    is used as a kind of divining rod to locate expensive bike parts not
    far from the object we are trying to hit.

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#16774

On 5/25/25 10:50 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
> On 5/23/25 20:32, Nil wrote:
>> On 23 May 2025, Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote in
>> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
>>
>>> On Fri, 23 May 2025 15:02:36 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.0esr/releaseno
>>>> tes https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/ 
>>>
>>> Hmm... manually sort folders in folder pane...
>>
>> Maybe/hopefully this is the functionality that used to be provided by
>> the "Manually Sort Folders" add-on that became incompatible a few
>> versions back. The author has claimed that he submitted it to Mozilla
>> to be incorporated into the main program, but that they seemed to be
>> stonewalling him. Maybe it finally happened. It's a feature that I
>> enjoyed but didn't depend on.
> 
> Ditto.
> 
> I was recently forced to update from 82 to 138 and was appalled at what 
> was lost.  

I'm not aware of any version 82.  There was 78 and 91.

And has been no programmed forced updates to 138 coming from MZLA. What 
is your OS, and from where did you originally get the older version?


I still am, but I am nothing if not resilient.  Heretofore I
> had no reason to look at the release notes, but I just looked here and 
> was shocked by the number of problems that were apparently fixed.  I 
> never saw ANY of those problems in 82, 

Then there have been plenty of issues and enhancement requests that 
affected other users and not you - why would that be a surprise?


> so all must have been generated by the 'improvements' thereafter.
Not by a long shot.  For example, https://mzl.la/44XdzbD are 359 fixes 
since version 78 that were created prior to version 78.

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#16775

On 5/28/25 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
>> I was recently forced to update from 82 to 138 and was appalled at 
>> what was lost. 
> 
> I'm not aware of any version 82.  There was 78 and 91.
> 
> And has been no programmed forced updates to 138 coming from MZLA. What 
> is your OS, and from where did you originally get the older version?

Did you perhaps get your version 138 from 
https://thunderbird.net/download/ ?

That page has for the last 3 months provided monthly releases (136, 137, 
138, ...) by default, as the banner at the top indicates.

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#16782

On 5/28/25 08:18, Wayne wrote:
> On 5/28/25 11:11 AM, Wayne wrote:
>>> I was recently forced to update from 82 to 138 and was appalled at 
>>> what was lost. 
>> 
>> I'm not aware of any version 82.  There was 78 and 91.
>> 
>> And has been no programmed forced updates to 138 coming from MZLA. What 
>> is your OS, and from where did you originally get the older version?
> 
> Did you perhaps get your version 138 from
> https://thunderbird.net/download/ ?
> 
> That page has for the last 3 months provided monthly releases (136, 137,
> 138, ...) by default, as the banner at the top indicates.

Go to thunderbird page.  Click DOWNLOAD, presumably the latest release. 
Pretty straightforward until I tried to make it actually work...

-- 
Cheers, Bev
    "A complete lack of evidence is the surest sign
     that the conspiracy is working."   -- Tanuki

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#16781

On 5/28/25 08:11, Wayne wrote:
> On 5/25/25 10:50 AM, The Real Bev wrote:
>> On 5/23/25 20:32, Nil wrote:
>>> On 23 May 2025, Nobody <jock@soccer.com> wrote in
>>> alt.comp.software.thunderbird:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 23 May 2025 15:02:36 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.0esr/releaseno
>>>>> tes https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/ 
>>>>
>>>> Hmm... manually sort folders in folder pane...
>>>
>>> Maybe/hopefully this is the functionality that used to be provided by
>>> the "Manually Sort Folders" add-on that became incompatible a few
>>> versions back. The author has claimed that he submitted it to Mozilla
>>> to be incorporated into the main program, but that they seemed to be
>>> stonewalling him. Maybe it finally happened. It's a feature that I
>>> enjoyed but didn't depend on.
>> 
>> Ditto.
>> 
>> I was recently forced to update from 82 to 138 and was appalled at what 
>> was lost.  
> 
> I'm not aware of any version 82.  There was 78 and 91.

Mea culpa.  It was 68.12.  I was running Firefox 82.
> And has been no programmed forced updates to 138 coming from MZLA. What
> is your OS, and from where did you originally get the older version?

Downloaded from mozilla.  Slackware.  It ran beautifully until 
authentication was denied for older versions.
> I still am, but I am nothing if not resilient.  Heretofore I
>> had no reason to look at the release notes, but I just looked here and 
>> was shocked by the number of problems that were apparently fixed.  I 
>> never saw ANY of those problems in 82, 
> 
> Then there have been plenty of issues and enhancement requests that
> affected other users and not you - why would that be a surprise?

I had no reason to look at info about more recent versions, I had 
decided that since I had lost so many extensions and .css entries I'd 
stop updating.  Ultimately I was forced to, and I'm still not happy.

>> so all must have been generated by the 'improvements' thereafter.
> Not by a long shot.  For example, https://mzl.la/44XdzbD are 359 fixes
> since version 78 that were created prior to version 78.
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     that the conspiracy is working."   -- Tanuki

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#16795 — Thunderbird v139.0.1 Release Notes for 6/2/2025

Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
...
> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0.1/releasenotes/
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#16817 — Re: Thunderbird v139.0.1 Release Notes for 6/2/2025

On Sat, 31 May 2025 22:28:34 -0000 (UTC), ant@zimage.comANT (Ant)
wrote:

>Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
>...
>
>https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0.1/releasenotes/

"Upgrade to 139.0 incorrectly switched Table View to Cards View."  <g>

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#16818 — Re: Thunderbird v139.0.1 Release Notes for 6/2/2025

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 11:18:24 -0700, Nobody wrote:

> "Upgrade to 139.0 incorrectly switched Table View to Cards View."  <g>

And here I was thinking it was me...

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#16820 — Re: Thunderbird v139.0.1 Release Notes for 6/2/2025

On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 20:34:37 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

>On Mon, 02 Jun 2025 11:18:24 -0700, Nobody wrote:
>
>> "Upgrade to 139.0 incorrectly switched Table View to Cards View."  <g>
>
>And here I was thinking it was me...

Both Andy Burns and myself had noted it... though our comments were as
OT follow-ups in the "Text Color" thread.  We were naughty boys...

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#16889 — Updated Thunderbirds' release notes for June 10, 2025!

Ant <ant@zimage.comant> wrote:
> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.0esr/releasenotes
> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0/releasenotes/

https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/128.11.1esr/releasenotes/
https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/139.0.2/releasenotes/
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