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Re: [OT]

From "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com>
Newsgroups alt.comp.software.thunderbird
Subject Re: [OT]
Date 2026-06-22 14:47 +0000
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>On Mon, 6/22/2026 3:57 AM, Adam H. Kerman wrote:
>>Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
>>>On Sun, 6/21/2026 7:05 PM, Oranges wrote:
>>>>On 21/06/2026 13:54, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

>>>>>Don't waste time playing decoding/decrypting game!

>>>>Thunderbird can decode Base64. There's no need to waste time on 
>>>>decoding/decrypting games!

>>>>Adam Kermit has been told to use Thunderbird, but he refuses and insists 
>>>>on using an obscure newsreader called trn 4.0-test77, released on 1 
>>>>September 2010.

>>>TRN4 has base64 support, but it is only wired up for MIME encoded messages.
>>>It's not clear whether the messages in question have a MIME declaration
>>>as well as a Content Encoding.

>>This is my troll. You cannot have him. Please don't feed my troll.

>>The article in question was base64 encoded with a proper MIME
>>and Content-Encoding declaration.

>I have a copy of TRN4 source, so I looked in it to see
>if it has any support for base64, and the word does appear
>in the source. What I don't know, is if the headers that
>declare the encoding, are sufficient to cause TRN4 to
>do anything.

>It means that the developers who worked on TRN, were not
>totally oblivious to the encoding. They know it exists.

MIME was used on Usenet at the time but hadn't yet been standardized. Is
base64 encoding recognizeable from a byte sequence?

In displaying an article, trn doesn't recognize multi-byte sequences.
Eli the Bearded wrote a patch for that a few years ago but I didn't
implement it. In followup, I get around that with vim the text editor
which can handle nulti-byte sequences as long as I set the translation
in the terminal enulation to match. However, the text editor isn't being
called with a needed option to make sure standard line boundaries are
used after decoding fron base 64.

Regardless, these encodings DO NOT belong on Usenet. They serve no
purpose. I was surprised that Betterbird was doing the needless encoding
same as Thunderbird.

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Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-20 15:46 +0000
  Re: Betterbird & Base64 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 00:05 +0800
    Re: Betterbird & Base64 "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-20 17:17 +0100
      Re: Betterbird & Base64 "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-20 16:32 +0000
        Re: Betterbird & Base64 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 01:00 +0800
        Re: Betterbird & Base64 "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 01:10 +0800
  Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird sticks <wolverine01@charter.net> - 2026-06-20 12:15 -0500
    Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-20 19:59 +0100
      Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-21 04:59 -0400
        Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Alfred Peters <miteinere-mail-adresseindereinleitungszeilewirddieseoftzulang@geekmail.de> - 2026-06-21 11:15 +0200
        Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-21 10:18 +0100
          Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-21 19:55 +0100
            Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-21 20:11 +0100
              Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-21 20:50 +0100
                UTF-8 (was: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird) Marcel Logen <333200007110-0201@ybtra.de> - 2026-06-22 00:00 +0200
                Re: UTF-8 "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> - 2026-06-22 01:41 +0100
  Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-06-20 20:58 +0200
    Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-20 20:02 +0100
      Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-20 20:03 +0100
    Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-20 19:25 +0000
  Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Ralph Fox <-rf-nz-@-.invalid> - 2026-06-21 08:02 +1200
    Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-21 00:13 +0000
  Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Alfred Peters <miteinere-mail-adresseindereinleitungszeilewirddieseoftzulang@geekmail.de> - 2026-06-21 10:05 +0200
    Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Alfred Peters <miteinere-mail-adresseindereinleitungszeilewirddieseoftzulang@geekmail.de> - 2026-06-21 10:11 +0200
      Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-21 09:34 +0100
        Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Alfred Peters <miteinere-mail-adresseindereinleitungszeilewirddieseoftzulang@geekmail.de> - 2026-06-21 10:55 +0200
    Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2026-06-21 09:26 +0100
      Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 13:11 +0200
        Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Jörg Knobloch <jorgk@jorgk.com> - 2026-06-21 14:29 +0200
        Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird Alfred Peters <miteinere-mail-adresseindereinleitungszeilewirddieseoftzulang@geekmail.de> - 2026-06-21 17:33 +0200
          Re: Betterbird has same problem as Thunderbird "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-21 19:27 +0200
  [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-21 20:54 +0800
    Re: [OT] Oranges <Oranges@invalid.invalid> - 2026-06-22 00:05 +0100
      Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 13:14 +0800
      Re: [OT] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-22 03:11 -0400
        Re: [OT] "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-22 07:57 +0000
          Re: [OT] "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 18:55 +0800
          [OT]troll? trope? "Mr. Man-wai Chang" <toylet.toylet@gmail.com> - 2026-06-22 19:22 +0800
          Re: [OT] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-22 10:25 -0400
            Re: [OT] "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-22 14:47 +0000
              Re: [OT] Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> - 2026-06-22 16:03 -0400
                Re: [OT] "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2026-06-23 02:35 +0000
                Re: [OT] "Carlos E. R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> - 2026-06-23 19:53 +0200

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