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| Started by | Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> |
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| First post | 2026-01-12 20:57 +0100 |
| Last post | 2026-01-13 10:42 +0100 |
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Ugly eycancer broken web fonts Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2026-01-12 20:57 +0100
Re: Ugly eycancer broken web fonts "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2026-01-12 17:56 -0800
Re: Ugly eycancer broken web fonts Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2026-01-13 03:32 +0100
Re: Ugly eycancer broken web fonts Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2026-01-13 03:53 +0100
Re: Ugly eycancer broken web fonts - FIXED! (WORKAROUND) Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2026-01-13 05:05 +0100
Re: Ugly eycancer broken web fonts - FIXED! (WORKAROUND) frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> - 2026-01-13 10:42 +0100
| From | Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 20:57 +0100 |
| Subject | Ugly eycancer broken web fonts |
| Message-ID | <10k3jom$2jq63$1@dont-email.me> |
Hi! almost every day I see a website with a totally broken font like this: https://schugo.de/pix/ugly_fonts.png I had to install FontReplacer add-on, cuz it's totally mad. I use SM 2.53.22 / FF 147 / Win7-64. Is it missing fonts on Win7 or stupid web developes (esp. MacOS) that only test on their own Browser/System???? ciao..
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| From | "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-01-12 17:56 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <10k48nj$2qo6n$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8387 |
On 1/12/2026 11:57 AM, Schugo wrote: > Hi! > > almost every day I see a website with a totally broken font like this: > > https://schugo.de/pix/ugly_fonts.png > > I had to install FontReplacer add-on, cuz it's totally mad. > > I use SM 2.53.22 / FF 147 / Win7-64. > > Is it missing fonts on Win7 or stupid web developes (esp. MacOS) > that only test on their own Browser/System???? > > ciao.. > The font in your image resembles several in my collection. Most likely, it is Arial. Others in my collection are relatively not well known and thus not usually installed in other systems. Note that Arial is considered a standard font. The version I have (2.40) was copyrighted in 2008. Helvetica is another common font. However, the font in your sample is definitely not Helvetica, which lacks the hook on the bottom of 'l' (ell). Actually, most sans-serif fonts in my collection lack that hook. Also, the font in your sample is not Trebuchet because its 'g' is different. I happen to like Trebuchet because each glyph is distinct. There is no confusing 'l' (ell) with '1' (one) or 'O' (oh) with '0' (zero). When writing a URI or E-mail address, I usually use Trebuchet. Finally, there is Verdana, again not your font because Verdana is missing the hook at the bottom of 'l' (ell). I like Verdana at 14 point for shopping lists; it is very easy to read. All the fonts named above and your sample are sans-serif. -- David E. Ross <http://www.rossde.com> Trump seems set on going to war against not only Venezuela but also Denmark (over Greenland), Nigeria (because terrorists have attacked Christians), and Syria (over the murder of two U.S. military). Of course, what he did in Venezuela sets an example that Russia will follow against the Ukraine and China will follow against Taiwan. Silly me. I always thought only Congress could declare war.
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| From | Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 03:32 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10k4asg$2r8dn$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8392 |
On 13.01.2026 02:56, David E. Ross wrote: > On 1/12/2026 11:57 AM, Schugo wrote: >> Hi! >> >> almost every day I see a website with a totally broken font like this: >> >> https://schugo.de/pix/ugly_fonts.png >> >> I had to install FontReplacer add-on, cuz it's totally mad. >> >> I use SM 2.53.22 / FF 147 / Win7-64. >> >> Is it missing fonts on Win7 or stupid web developes (esp. MacOS) >> that only test on their own Browser/System???? >> >> ciao.. >> > > The font in your image resembles several in my collection. Most likely, > it is Arial. Others in my collection are relatively not well known and > thus not usually installed in other systems. Note that Arial is > considered a standard font. The version I have (2.40) was copyrighted > in 2008. > > Helvetica is another common font. However, the font in your sample is > definitely not Helvetica, which lacks the hook on the bottom of 'l' > (ell). Actually, most sans-serif fonts in my collection lack that hook. > > Also, the font in your sample is not Trebuchet because its 'g' is > different. I happen to like Trebuchet because each glyph is distinct. > There is no confusing 'l' (ell) with '1' (one) or 'O' (oh) with '0' > (zero). When writing a URI or E-mail address, I usually use Trebuchet. > > Finally, there is Verdana, again not your font because Verdana is > missing the hook at the bottom of 'l' (ell). I like Verdana at 14 point > for shopping lists; it is very easy to read. > > All the fonts named above and your sample are sans-serif. It can't be a broken local font. No other app renders such broken fonts. Must be a broken downloaded web font or a css fuckup. ciao..
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| From | Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 03:53 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10k4c3q$2rfn1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8393 |
On 13.01.2026 03:32, Schugo wrote: > On 13.01.2026 02:56, David E. Ross wrote: >> On 1/12/2026 11:57 AM, Schugo wrote: >>> Hi! >>> >>> almost every day I see a website with a totally broken font like this: >>> >>> https://schugo.de/pix/ugly_fonts.png >>> >>> I had to install FontReplacer add-on, cuz it's totally mad. >>> >>> I use SM 2.53.22 / FF 147 / Win7-64. >>> >>> Is it missing fonts on Win7 or stupid web developes (esp. MacOS) >>> that only test on their own Browser/System???? >>> >>> ciao.. >>> >> >> The font in your image resembles several in my collection. Most likely, >> it is Arial. Others in my collection are relatively not well known and >> thus not usually installed in other systems. Note that Arial is >> considered a standard font. The version I have (2.40) was copyrighted >> in 2008. >> >> Helvetica is another common font. However, the font in your sample is >> definitely not Helvetica, which lacks the hook on the bottom of 'l' >> (ell). Actually, most sans-serif fonts in my collection lack that hook. >> >> Also, the font in your sample is not Trebuchet because its 'g' is >> different. I happen to like Trebuchet because each glyph is distinct. >> There is no confusing 'l' (ell) with '1' (one) or 'O' (oh) with '0' >> (zero). When writing a URI or E-mail address, I usually use Trebuchet. >> >> Finally, there is Verdana, again not your font because Verdana is >> missing the hook at the bottom of 'l' (ell). I like Verdana at 14 point >> for shopping lists; it is very easy to read. >> >> All the fonts named above and your sample are sans-serif. > > It can't be a broken local font. No other app renders such broken fonts. > Must be a broken downloaded web font or a css fuckup. 4 Mozilla Browsers show this problem: FF 148 nightly, FF 115 ESR, SM latest, Tor Browser. Chromium works. ciao..
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| From | Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 05:05 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Ugly eycancer broken web fonts - FIXED! (WORKAROUND) |
| Message-ID | <10k4ga2$2sg9k$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8387 |
gfx.downloadable_fonts.enabled false
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| From | frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 10:42 +0100 |
| Subject | Re: Ugly eycancer broken web fonts - FIXED! (WORKAROUND) |
| Message-ID | <msmibtFobpsU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #8395 |
Schugo wrote: > gfx.downloadable_fonts.enabled false > Some sites need them I block them with uBlock and enable only for these. frg
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