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  problem with secure.ssa.gov David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-12-08 16:46 -0700
    Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-12-09 10:06 -0700
      Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-12-09 11:26 -0700
        Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-12-09 20:44 +0100
          Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-12-09 13:19 -0700
        Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-12-10 03:25 +0000
          Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-12-10 13:40 -0700
            Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> - 2025-12-10 20:39 -0700
              Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-12-12 00:23 +0000
            Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> - 2025-12-14 06:19 +0000
              Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-12-14 10:15 +0100
    Re: problem with secure.ssa.gov "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-12-09 12:31 -0500

#8214 — problem with secure.ssa.gov

It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no longer 
compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to the account 
at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading application..."
and then nothing.

The error console shows:

Timestamp: 12/8/25, 4:08:49 PM MST
Error: SyntaxError: bad method definition
Source File: 
https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/polyfills.442703fd36afc310.js
Line: 1, Column: 404
Source Code:
()=>re});const re=Symbol("NotFound");class Ce extends 
Error{name="\u0275NotFound";constructor(Q){super(Q)}}function ne(R

Timestamp: 12/8/25, 4:08:49 PM MST
Error: SyntaxError: bad method definition
Source File: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/main.b13afe34d9f37132.js
Line: 1, Column: 402
Source Code:
()=>ee});const ee=Symbol("NotFound");class ge extends 
Error{name="\u0275NotFound";constructor(Q){super(Q)}}function te(D

Interestingly, this is even worse than Firefox, which fails to even load 
the login page with an error:

Bad Request

Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Size of a request header field exceeds server limit.

I have had to fall back to Chromium to work with this site.

Can SeaMonkey be fixed for this?

Dave

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#8217

David H Durgee wrote on 12/8/2025 4:46 PM:
> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no longer 
> compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to the account 
> at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading application..."
> and then nothing.
> 
> Dave

Similar issues('Loading application...') with SM 2.53.22

Firefox(145.0.1 and 146.0), Edge and Chrome latest versions all work for 
the site.

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#8219

...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  wrote:
> David H Durgee wrote on 12/8/2025 4:46 PM:
>> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no 
>> longer compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to the 
>> account at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading 
>> application..."
>> and then nothing.
>>
>> Dave
> 
> Similar issues('Loading application...') with SM 2.53.22
> 
> Firefox(145.0.1 and 146.0), Edge and Chrome latest versions all work for 
> the site.
> 

Firefox 145.0.2 Does NOT work here!  This is the 64bit Linux release. 
Error in Firefox is:

"Bad Request

Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."

Dave

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#8220

David H Durgee wrote:
> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  wrote:
>> David H Durgee wrote on 12/8/2025 4:46 PM:
>>> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no 
>>> longer compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to 
>>> the account at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading 
>>> application..."
>>> and then nothing.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> Similar issues('Loading application...') with SM 2.53.22
>>
>> Firefox(145.0.1 and 146.0), Edge and Chrome latest versions all work 
>> for the site.
>>
> 
> Firefox 145.0.2 Does NOT work here!  This is the 64bit Linux release. 
> Error in Firefox is:
> 
> "Bad Request
> 
> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
> 
> Dave

Quite honestly, if it does not work for Firefox it is their problem.  If 
your use of that site is legitimate you should tell them that it's 
broken.  Firefox is still a mainstream browser.

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#8221

R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
> David H Durgee wrote:
>> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  wrote:
>>> David H Durgee wrote on 12/8/2025 4:46 PM:
>>>> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no 
>>>> longer compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to 
>>>> the account at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading 
>>>> application..."
>>>> and then nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Similar issues('Loading application...') with SM 2.53.22
>>>
>>> Firefox(145.0.1 and 146.0), Edge and Chrome latest versions all work 
>>> for the site.
>>>
>>
>> Firefox 145.0.2 Does NOT work here!  This is the 64bit Linux release. 
>> Error in Firefox is:
>>
>> "Bad Request
>>
>> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
>> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
>>
>> Dave
> 
> Quite honestly, if it does not work for Firefox it is their problem.  If 
> your use of that site is legitimate you should tell them that it's 
> broken.  Firefox is still a mainstream browser.

That is possibly true, but then given other versions of Firefox work it 
might be a problem with the 145.0.2 version.  I guess I will see what 
happens when Mint gets to that version.

Dave

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#8222

David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> wrote:
> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  wrote:
> > David H Durgee wrote on 12/8/2025 4:46 PM:
> >> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no 
> >> longer compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to the 
> >> account at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading 
> >> application..."
> >> and then nothing.
> >>
> >> Dave
> > 
> > Similar issues('Loading application...') with SM 2.53.22
> > 
> > Firefox(145.0.1 and 146.0), Edge and Chrome latest versions all work for 
> > the site.
> > 

> Firefox 145.0.2 Does NOT work here!  This is the 64bit Linux release. 
> Error in Firefox is:

> "Bad Request

> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."

> Dave

What about v146 that came out this morning?
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#8223

Ant wrote:
> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> wrote:
>> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  wrote:
>>> David H Durgee wrote on 12/8/2025 4:46 PM:
>>>> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no
>>>> longer compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to the
>>>> account at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading
>>>> application..."
>>>> and then nothing.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> Similar issues('Loading application...') with SM 2.53.22
>>>
>>> Firefox(145.0.1 and 146.0), Edge and Chrome latest versions all work for
>>> the site.
>>>
> 
>> Firefox 145.0.2 Does NOT work here!  This is the 64bit Linux release.
>> Error in Firefox is:
> 
>> "Bad Request
> 
>> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
>> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
> 
>> Dave
> 
> What about v146 that came out this morning?
> 

Firefox 146.0 just hit the repository today and I installed it. Same error:

"Bad Request

Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."

This error occurs at https://secure.ssa.gov/RIL/

In Chromium or SeaMonkey this displays the options to choose your login 
method or to create an account to do so.

This is on Linux Mint 22 x64 on my laptop.

Dave

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#8225

David H Durgee wrote on 12/10/2025 1:40 PM:
> Ant wrote:
>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> wrote:
>>> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  wrote:
>>>> David H Durgee wrote on 12/8/2025 4:46 PM:
>>>>> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no
>>>>> longer compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to the
>>>>> account at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading
>>>>> application..."
>>>>> and then nothing.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> Similar issues('Loading application...') with SM 2.53.22
>>>>
>>>> Firefox(145.0.1 and 146.0), Edge and Chrome latest versions all work for
>>>> the site.
>>>>
>>
>>> Firefox 145.0.2 Does NOT work here!  This is the 64bit Linux release.
>>> Error in Firefox is:
>>
>>> "Bad Request
>>
>>> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
>>> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> What about v146 that came out this morning?
>>
> 
> Firefox 146.0 just hit the repository today and I installed it. Same error:
> 
> "Bad Request
> 
> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
> 
> This error occurs at https://secure.ssa.gov/RIL/
> 
> In Chromium or SeaMonkey this displays the options to choose your login 
> method or to create an account to do so.
> 
> This is on Linux Mint 22 x64 on my laptop.
> 
> Dave

At this stage the issue appears to be leaning(related) to Linux(or Mint) 
and possibly a FF add-in or setting.


Still working fine here on FF 146.0 on Windows 10 22H2/Win 11 25H2, and 
the latest versions of Edge and Chrome.

Hopefully, someone using Linux(Mint or other version) and FF 146 will 
have some suggestions.

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#8226

...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
> David H Durgee wrote on 12/10/2025 1:40 PM:
> > Ant wrote:
> >> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> wrote:
> >>> ...w¡ñ§±¤ñ  wrote:
> >>>> David H Durgee wrote on 12/8/2025 4:46 PM:
> >>>>> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no
> >>>>> longer compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to the
> >>>>> account at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading
> >>>>> application..."
> >>>>> and then nothing.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Dave
> >>>>
> >>>> Similar issues('Loading application...') with SM 2.53.22
> >>>>
> >>>> Firefox(145.0.1 and 146.0), Edge and Chrome latest versions all work for
> >>>> the site.
> >>>>
> >>
> >>> Firefox 145.0.2 Does NOT work here!  This is the 64bit Linux release.
> >>> Error in Firefox is:
> >>
> >>> "Bad Request
> >>
> >>> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
> >>> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
> >>
> >>> Dave
> >>
> >> What about v146 that came out this morning?
> > 
> > Firefox 146.0 just hit the repository today and I installed it. Same error:
> > 
> > "Bad Request
> > 
> > Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
> > Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
> > 
> > This error occurs at https://secure.ssa.gov/RIL/
> > 
> > In Chromium or SeaMonkey this displays the options to choose your login 
> > method or to create an account to do so.
> > 
> > This is on Linux Mint 22 x64 on my laptop.
> > 
> > Dave

> At this stage the issue appears to be leaning(related) to Linux(or Mint) 
> and possibly a FF add-in or setting.

> Still working fine here on FF 146.0 on Windows 10 22H2/Win 11 25H2, and 
> the latest versions of Edge and Chrome.

> Hopefully, someone using Linux(Mint or other version) and FF 146 will 
> have some suggestions.

Try a brand new profile with the defaults? If not, then maybe the web 
site doesn't like the user agent for Linux. Maybe try Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:146.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/146.0 to 
pretend it is Firefox v146 from 64-bit Windows 10? I think the web site 
doesn't like Linux in user agent.
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#8238

On 10/12/2025 20:40, David H Durgee wrote:
>...>
> 
> Firefox 146.0 just hit the repository today and I installed it. Same error:
> 
> "Bad Request
> 
> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
> 
> This error occurs at https://secure.ssa.gov/RIL/
> 
> In Chromium or SeaMonkey this displays the options to choose your login
> method or to create an account to do so.
> 
> This is on Linux Mint 22 x64 on my laptop.
>
I've seen this error as a result of passing wrongly constructed cookie
data, but that shouldn't be happen with a browser.

What FF (or indeed SM to stay on topic) is actually sending in the
headers is shown in the browser's Dev Tools Network tab.

The SM problem originally quoted

> Error: SyntaxError: bad method definition

occurs because SM doesn't (yet) understand the ES6 class syntax:
<https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Guide/Using_classes#declaring_a_class>

The chance of getting the site not to send class declarations, even if
the site developers are using tools that would generate JS without them,
is very slim.

/df

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#8239

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
> On 10/12/2025 20:40, David H Durgee wrote:
>> ...>
>>
>> Firefox 146.0 just hit the repository today and I installed it. Same error:
>>
>> "Bad Request
>>
>> Your browser sent a request that this server could not understand.
>> Size of a request header field exceeds server limit."
>>
>> This error occurs at https://secure.ssa.gov/RIL/
>>
>> In Chromium or SeaMonkey this displays the options to choose your login
>> method or to create an account to do so.
>>
>> This is on Linux Mint 22 x64 on my laptop.
>>
> I've seen this error as a result of passing wrongly constructed cookie
> data, but that shouldn't be happen with a browser.
> 
> What FF (or indeed SM to stay on topic) is actually sending in the
> headers is shown in the browser's Dev Tools Network tab.
> 
> The SM problem originally quoted
> 
>> Error: SyntaxError: bad method definition
> 
> occurs because SM doesn't (yet) understand the ES6 class syntax:
> <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Guide/Using_classes#declaring_a_class>
> 
> The chance of getting the site not to send class declarations, even if
> the site developers are using tools that would generate JS without them,
> is very slim.
> 
> /df
> 

My point earlier was that if a current version of Firefox (ESR or 
bleeding edge) cannot handle this, the site is screwing up.

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#8218

David H Durgee wrote:

> It appears that SSA has made changes to their website that are no longer 
> compatible with SeaMonkey.  I can login but once it goes to the account 
> at: https://secure.ssa.gov/myssa/myhub/ I get a "Loading application..."
> and then nothing. ...
> 

Confirmed with 2.53.22. Works OK with M$ Edge.

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