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  SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-11-02 00:46 +0000
    Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> - 2025-11-02 12:12 +0100
      Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-11-03 00:04 +0000
        Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> - 2025-11-03 17:37 +0100
          Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-11-04 23:18 +0000
            Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-05 12:48 +0100
              Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> - 2025-11-05 18:29 +0100
                SM v2.53.22 is out! ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-11-10 01:30 +0000
    Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-03 22:36 +0100
      Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-04 10:24 +0100
        Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-09 10:47 +0000
          Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-09 15:31 +0100
            Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. ant@zimage.comANT (Ant) - 2025-11-10 01:31 +0000
    Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. Peter45 <pseudo.address@example.invalid> - 2025-11-07 05:21 +0100
      Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-07 04:56 +0000
        Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. Peter45 <pseudo.address@example.invalid> - 2025-11-07 10:57 +0100
          Re: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site. R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-07 11:43 +0100
            MDN [was: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site] Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> - 2025-11-10 23:49 +0000
              Re: MDN [was: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site] Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-11 00:38 +0000
                Re: MDN [was: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site] Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> - 2025-11-13 07:23 +0000

#8059 — SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site.

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/

Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
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#8062

Ant wrote:
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
> 
> Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
> 

ewong is still working on the updates.

FRG

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#8064

frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> > https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
> > 
> > Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
> > 

> ewong is still working on the updates.

> FRG

Thanks. I will wait for it instead of using the full installer. :)
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#8068

Ant wrote:
> frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
>>>
>>> Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
>>>
> 
>> ewong is still working on the updates.
> 
>> FRG
> 
> Thanks. I will wait for it instead of using the full installer. :)
> 
Not much difference in size. We currently don't do incremental updates.

frg

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#8086

frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
> Ant wrote:
> > frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
> >> Ant wrote:
> >>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
> >>>
> >>> Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
> >>>
> > 
> >> ewong is still working on the updates.
> > 
> >> FRG
> > 
> > Thanks. I will wait for it instead of using the full installer. :)
> > 
> Not much difference in size. We currently don't do incremental updates.

:( Shouldn't SM at least tell its users of a newer version?
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#8089

Ant wrote:
> frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
>> Ant wrote:
>>> frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>> Ant wrote:
>>>>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
>>>>>
>>>
>>>> ewong is still working on the updates.
>>>
>>>> FRG
>>>
>>> Thanks. I will wait for it instead of using the full installer. :)
>>>
>> Not much difference in size. We currently don't do incremental updates.
> 
> :( Shouldn't SM at least tell its users of a newer version?
> 

According to the blog (following your link) the new version was released 
today.

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#8096

R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
>>> Ant wrote:
>>>> frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
>>>>> Ant wrote:
>>>>>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from 
>>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nothing in .21's internal updater and 
>>>>>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ewong is still working on the updates.
>>>>
>>>>> FRG
>>>>
>>>> Thanks. I will wait for it instead of using the full installer. :)
>>>>
>>> Not much difference in size. We currently don't do incremental updates.
>>
>> :( Shouldn't SM at least tell its users of a newer version?
>>
> 
> According to the blog (following your link) the new version was released 
> today.

If you read the same blog than me, ewong makes an explicitly apology for 
the delay on the P.S.

I have to say that i felt the same way when I didn't see the IRC topic 
updated once the new version was out, but hey, It's great to have a new 
version, and by the way, who cares if ewong published it on the blog 
some days later if there isn't a critical bug to get rid of?

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#8125 — SM v2.53.22 is out!

Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> wrote:
> R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
> > Ant wrote:
> >> frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
> >>> Ant wrote:
> >>>> frg <frgrahl@gmx.net> wrote:
> >>>>> Ant wrote:
> >>>>>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from 
> >>>>>> https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Nothing in .21's internal updater and 
> >>>>>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> ewong is still working on the updates.
> >>>>
> >>>>> FRG
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks. I will wait for it instead of using the full installer. :)
> >>>>
> >>> Not much difference in size. We currently don't do incremental updates.
> >>
> >> :( Shouldn't SM at least tell its users of a newer version?
> >>
> > 
> > According to the blog (following your link) the new version was released 
> > today.

> If you read the same blog than me, ewong makes an explicitly apology for 
> the delay on the P.S.

> I have to say that i felt the same way when I didn't see the IRC topic 
> updated once the new version was out, but hey, It's great to have a new 
> version, and by the way, who cares if ewong published it on the blog 
> some days later if there isn't a critical bug to get rid of?

Thanks. I don't use its IRC. :)
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#8072

Ant wrote:
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
> 
> Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
> 

OpenSUSE has .22 on its Mozilla Test website, and 
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.22 seems to think it's 
up and running.  On the other hand, https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ 
only tells us that 2.53.22 Beta 1 was released in September.

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#8074

R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from 
>> https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
>>
>> Nothing in .21's internal updater and 
>> https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
>>
> 
> OpenSUSE has .22 on its Mozilla Test website, and 
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.22 seems to think it's 
> up and running.  On the other hand, https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ 
> only tells us that 2.53.22 Beta 1 was released in September.

OOPS
My brand new 2.53.22 seemed to work just fine, then I typed in 
about:config to check one of the settings.
about:config shows the "Preference Name    Status    Type    Value" 
tables as it should, but the table is completely empty.  So far so bad, 
but going to about:config via about:about works just fine. S-T-R-A-N-G-E!

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#8122

On 2025-11-04, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:

> OOPS
> My brand new 2.53.22 seemed to work just fine, then I typed in
> about:config to check one of the settings.
> about:config shows the "Preference Name    Status    Type    Value"
> tables as it should, but the table is completely empty.  So far so
> bad, but going to about:config via about:about works just
> fine. S-T-R-A-N-G-E!

Is this something you can consistently reproduce? Any error in the
browser console?

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#8124

Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2025-11-04, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
> 
>> OOPS
>> My brand new 2.53.22 seemed to work just fine, then I typed in
>> about:config to check one of the settings.
>> about:config shows the "Preference Name    Status    Type    Value"
>> tables as it should, but the table is completely empty.  So far so
>> bad, but going to about:config via about:about works just
>> fine. S-T-R-A-N-G-E!
> 
> Is this something you can consistently reproduce? Any error in the
> browser console?
> 

I've since fallen back to the previous version, slashdot was not doing 
very well with 2.53.22.
The problem with 
https://wetterstationen.meteomedia.de/?map=Rheinland-Pfalz_Saarland&station=107080 
turned out to be that they redesigned part of the back-end, another site 
I have to use Firefox for.

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#8126

R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> wrote:
> Nuno Silva wrote:
> > On 2025-11-04, R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
> > 
> >> OOPS
> >> My brand new 2.53.22 seemed to work just fine, then I typed in
> >> about:config to check one of the settings.
> >> about:config shows the "Preference Name    Status    Type    Value"
> >> tables as it should, but the table is completely empty.  So far so
> >> bad, but going to about:config via about:about works just
> >> fine. S-T-R-A-N-G-E!
> > 
> > Is this something you can consistently reproduce? Any error in the
> > browser console?
> > 

> I've since fallen back to the previous version, slashdot was not doing 
> very well with 2.53.22.

I have no problems with /. in my .22.
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#8104

Am 02.11.2025 um 01:46 schrieb Ant:
> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
> 
> Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
> 

First of all, thank you very much for the new SM version.

Since version 2.53.22, some pages are working even worse than before
(for example https://www.stern.de/ or https://www.zdfheute.de/), while
others, such as https://www.chip.de/, are no longer working at all. Does
anyone know the reason for this and, if so, how to configure the current
SM version so that the pages are displayed as before?

Peter

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#8105

On 2025-11-07, Peter45 <pseudo.address@example.invalid> wrote:

> Am 02.11.2025 um 01:46 schrieb Ant:
>
>> https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.22/ from https://www.reddit.com/r/seamonkey/comments/1om0sbm/seamonkey_25322/
>> 
>> Nothing in .21's internal updater and https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/ so far.
>
> First of all, thank you very much for the new SM version.
>
> Since version 2.53.22, some pages are working even worse than before
> (for example https://www.stern.de/ or https://www.zdfheute.de/), while
> others, such as https://www.chip.de/, are no longer working at all. Does
> anyone know the reason for this and, if so, how to configure the current
> SM version so that the pages are displayed as before?

Have you tried running the version you were running before your upgrade?
It would be interesting to see whether it still works.  Many web sites
are evolving - no, sorry, devolving - at a rapid pace, and what works
with Seamonkey today might not work on the same version tomorrow.

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#8108

Am 07.11.2025 um 05:56 schrieb Charlie Gibbs:
...
> Have you tried running the version you were running before your upgrade?
> It would be interesting to see whether it still works.  Many web sites
> are evolving - no, sorry, devolving - at a rapid pace, and what works
> with Seamonkey today might not work on the same version tomorrow.
> 

The colleague who told me about the problematic pages did not update
SeaMonkey on one computer for precisely this reason. I had the same
objections and asked him whether the pages still behaved the same way as
before the update with his SM 2.53.21 instance, which he confirmed.

Peter

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#8109

Peter45 wrote:
> Am 07.11.2025 um 05:56 schrieb Charlie Gibbs:
> ...
>> Have you tried running the version you were running before your upgrade?
>> It would be interesting to see whether it still works.  Many web sites
>> are evolving - no, sorry, devolving - at a rapid pace, and what works
>> with Seamonkey today might not work on the same version tomorrow.
>>
> 
> The colleague who told me about the problematic pages did not update
> SeaMonkey on one computer for precisely this reason. I had the same
> objections and asked him whether the pages still behaved the same way as
> before the update with his SM 2.53.21 instance, which he confirmed.
> 
> Peter
> 

Hi,
I've just performed the fallback but with mixed results.
https://slashdot.org/ now works again
https://wetterstationen.meteomedia.de/?map=Rheinland-Pfalz_Saarland&station=107080 
does not, that "Page not found" started a few days ago.
There were some other (German) sites also failing but I can't remember 
what they were, presumably it will all come back the next time I go there.

Danke

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#8127 — MDN [was: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site]

Recently MDN (eg, <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML>)
broke itself so that you can only read the article text (and not just
the navigation) with page styles disabled.

This is seen in 2.53.19 and 2.53.21, obvs with JS disabled. Until the
32-bit build of 2.53.22 appears, I can't test whether the same is true.

/df

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#8128 — Re: MDN [was: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site]

On 2025-11-10, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:

> Recently MDN (eg, <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML>)
> broke itself so that you can only read the article text (and not just
> the navigation) with page styles disabled.
>
> This is seen in 2.53.19 and 2.53.21, obvs with JS disabled. Until the
> 32-bit build of 2.53.22 appears, I can't test whether the same is true.
>
> /df

This is what I currently have in userContent.css (haven't tested it a
lot yet, though). I lose the navigation part, but it's not something
I've been in need of using. Still a quick and dirty hack, perhaps I
should look for a better approach that preserves the navigation
elements...

@-moz-document url-prefix("https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/"){
[...]
	.navigation {
		display: none !important;
	}
}


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#8132 — Re: MDN [was: SM v2.53.22 is out on its web site]

On 11/11/2025 00:38, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2025-11-10, Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
> 
>> Recently MDN (eg, <https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML>)
>> broke itself so that you can only read the article text (and not just
>> the navigation) with page styles disabled.
>>
>> This is seen in 2.53.19 and 2.53.21, obvs with JS disabled. Until the
>> 32-bit build of 2.53.22 appears, I can't test whether the same is true.
>>
>> /df
> 
> This is what I currently have in userContent.css (haven't tested it a
> lot yet, though). I lose the navigation part, but it's not something
> I've been in need of using. Still a quick and dirty hack, perhaps I
> should look for a better approach that preserves the navigation
> elements...
> 
> @-moz-document url-prefix("https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/"){
> [...]
> 	.navigation {
> 		display: none !important;
> 	}
> }

Thanks. Inspired by that:

@-moz-document url-prefix("https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/") {
  /* lay out horizontally if possible ... */
  .a11y-menu {
    display: flex;
  }
  /* show nav menu on hover or tab */
  .page-layout__header:hover, .page-layout__header:focus-within {
    height:  50vh;
    overflow: scroll;
  }
  /* ... and lay out again */
  .page-layout__header .menu {
    display: flex;
  }
  /* or minimise */
  .page-layout__header {
    height: 3ch;
    overflow: hidden;
  }
}

And I learned about the focus-within pseudo-class, too!

/df

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