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| Started by | Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> |
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| First post | 2025-10-13 23:08 -0500 |
| Last post | 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000 |
| Articles | 9 on this page of 49 — 22 participants |
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How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-13 23:08 -0500
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-14 01:19 -0400
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-14 09:39 -0700
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-14 14:43 -0400
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-14 11:48 -0700
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 20:26 +0100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:49 -0500
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:51 -0500
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> - 2025-10-29 05:51 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2025-10-29 15:11 -0500
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) kuato <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-06 22:15 -0700
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-07 22:56 +1100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Andi B." <andi.b@gmx.net> - 2025-11-07 17:21 +0100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:54 +0100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 11:54 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-29 15:23 -0500
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-10-30 12:28 +0100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-31 20:18 +1100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:48 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-03 22:51 +1100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 16:54 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 18:28 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-04 19:29 +1100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:26 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-04 21:40 +1100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-04 18:49 +0200
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-05 19:32 +1100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-05 23:11 +0200
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-06 19:57 +1100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-11-06 09:32 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-06 23:32 +0200
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-06 23:26 +0100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 10:41 +0100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-11-06 18:12 -0600
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:52 +0200
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-29 16:22 -0600
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-29 17:34 -0500
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2025-10-30 01:22 +0100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-29 22:04 -0600
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:02 -0700
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-31 08:31 -0400
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-01 18:52 +1100
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2025-10-30 05:35 +0000
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-10-14 08:52 -0700
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:53 -0500
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-10-25 04:49 -0300
Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000
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| From | David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-29 22:04 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mmg6etFbqkcU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #8044 |
Schugo wrote: > On 29.10.2025 23:34, Hank Rogers wrote: >> David H Durgee wrote on 10/29/2025 5:22 PM: >>> Dirk Fieldhouse wrote: >>>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to >>>>>> your google account first. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steps I used: >>>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar. >>>>>> Log-in to your Google Account >>>>>> Success I can search Google again >>>>> >>>>> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google >>>>> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution. >>>>> >>>> >>>> In any case G search now >>>> <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript> >>>> requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work >>>> without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a >>>> pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be >>>> both simple and effective. >>>> >>>> StartPage searches B! without JS, but not G. >>>> >>>> Brave search has a poorer index and only asks for JS if you use it >>>> intensively. >>>> >>>> Otherwise a self-hosted https://4get.ca (PHP FFS) or similar ... >>>> >>>> /df >>>> >>> >>> >>> I've been using StartPage for years and I have just started using Grok >>> for some inquiries. I also took a look at Grokipedia when it came out >>> which looks interesting. >>> >>> Dave >> >> Yeah that's elon musk's new stuff launched 2 days ago. Don't let trump >> find out you're using it! >> > > OMFG are you US people stupid! > goto hell! > Might I suggest before you simply react you take a look at things? For example, compare the following two articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AfD https://grokipedia.com/page/Alternative_for_Germany Which of the two do you find more informative? Which of the two presents an unbiased position and includes multiple views of the AfD? If a foreigner such as I wanted to know more about the AfD which of the two articles would you suggest be read? Musk has stated many times that his intent for AI is that above all it should be truth seeking. Which of the two articles is more true? Dave
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| From | Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 22:02 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <KpXMQ.934359$p8E9.538966@fx18.iad> |
| In reply to | #8045 |
David H Durgee wrote: > Musk has stated many times that his intent for AI is that above all it > should be truth seeking. Which of the two articles is more true? Getting really off topic for this news group, but Musk's bias's are well known and evident in what he has done to twitter. To me the Grokipedia article seems more like propaganda then the wiki article. It is really going to depend on your world view which article you feel is best and any discussion here is not going to change peoples world view so best to stick with SeaMonkey, both development and user problems. It is something that transcends political views, a wonderful Suite. Dave
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| From | "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-31 08:31 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <10e2a7n$fj7s$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8052 |
Dave Yeo wrote: > It is really going to depend on your world view which article you feel > is best and any discussion here is not going to change peoples world > view so best to stick with SeaMonkey, both development and user > problems. It is something that transcends political views, a wonderful > Suite. 맞습니다/You're right. I've been here since Netscape 4.7, and I've really loved the SeaMonkey suite; I've built my email and browsing experience around it for more than 20 years. But lately we haven't had enough resources (funding and developers) to keep up with current Internet trends, and I feel really sad. I wish I were a programmer who could help, but I'm not; at best, I'm a power user. So I'm watching an old friend's decline, helpless to stop it. :-(( I long for the good old days when SM was a cutting-edge option that I could recommend to my friends. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-11-01 18:52 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10e4e7c$13qth$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8055 |
On 31/10/2025 11:31 pm, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: > Dave Yeo wrote: > >> It is really going to depend on your world view which article you feel >> is best and any discussion here is not going to change peoples world >> view so best to stick with SeaMonkey, both development and user >> problems. It is something that transcends political views, a wonderful >> Suite. > > 맞습니다/You're right. > > I've been here since Netscape 4.7, and I've really loved the SeaMonkey > suite; I've built my email and browsing experience around it for more > than 20 years. But lately we haven't had enough resources (funding and > developers) to keep up with current Internet trends, and I feel really > sad. I wish I were a programmer who could help, but I'm not; at best, > I'm a power user. So I'm watching an old friend's decline, helpless to > stop it. :-(( I long for the good old days when SM was a cutting-edge > option that I could recommend to my friends. > Ditto!! When I started on the Internet in 1996, my then ISP gave me two 5.25 inch floppies, one had the Windows dialer stuff on it and the other had Netscape Navigator Ver 0.9 (i.e. Beta Version) which was just a Browser. Went on from Netscape Navigator to Netscape Communicator (Browser, Mail/News & IRC). Along the way, I've also migrated from Windows to MageiaLinux and I'd be there on Ver 10.0 .... except, it seems due to lack of Developers there as well, they only have Ver 9.0 available for download. Still Live in Hope!! -- Daniel70
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| From | "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 05:35 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10dute5$3f92f$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8044 |
Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> wrote: >On 29.10.2025 23:34, Hank Rogers wrote: >> David H Durgee wrote on 10/29/2025 5:22 PM: >>> Dirk Fieldhouse wrote: >>>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: >>>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to >>>>>> your google account first. >>>>>> >>>>>> Steps I used: >>>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar. >>>>>> Log-in to your Google Account >>>>>> Success I can search Google again >>>>> >>>>> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google >>>>> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution. >>>>> >>>> >>>> In any case G search now >>>> <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript> >>>> requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work >>>> without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a >>>> pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be >>>> both simple and effective. >>>> >>>> StartPage searches B! without JS, but not G. >>>> >>>> Brave search has a poorer index and only asks for JS if you use it >>>> intensively. >>>> >>>> Otherwise a self-hosted https://4get.ca (PHP FFS) or similar ... >>>> >>>> /df >>>> >>> >>> >>> I've been using StartPage for years and I have just started using Grok >>> for some inquiries. I also took a look at Grokipedia when it came out >>> which looks interesting. >>> >>> Dave >> >> Yeah that's elon musk's new stuff launched 2 days ago. Don't let trump >> find out you're using it! >> > >OMFG are you US people stupid! >goto hell! Elon Musk was born in South Africa, you ignorant troll.
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| From | "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-14 08:52 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10clrje$31ol5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7974 |
On 10/13/2025 9:08 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: > I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to > your google account first. > > Steps I used: > Enter Google.com in the search bar. > Log-in to your Google Account > Success I can search Google again > I do not have a Google account. I do not want one. Google is where privacy dies. However, I can do a Google search via SeaMoneky by declining to login while spoofing Firefox. By the way, I often accept all cookies; but my cookies.sqlite file has the status "read only". -- David E. Ross <http:www.rossde.com> Some Republican officials have denounced the assassination of Charlie Kirk as a conspiracy by liberal Democrats. Why then is the attempted kidnapping of the Democrat governor of Michigan, the shooting of a Democrat state senator of Minnesota, and the assassination of the Democrat speaker of the Minnesota state assembly not denounced as a conservative Republican conspiracy?
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| From | Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> |
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| Date | 2025-10-14 21:53 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10cn2ao$3cnh5$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7979 |
or uuse DuckDuckGo. David E. Ross wrote: > On 10/13/2025 9:08 PM, Paul Bergsagel wrote: >> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to >> your google account first. >> >> Steps I used: >> Enter Google.com in the search bar. >> Log-in to your Google Account >> Success I can search Google again >> > > I do not have a Google account. I do not want one. Google is where > privacy dies. > > However, I can do a Google search via SeaMoneky by declining to login > while spoofing Firefox. > > By the way, I often accept all cookies; but my cookies.sqlite file has > the status "read only". >
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| From | Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> |
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| Date | 2025-10-25 04:49 -0300 |
| Message-ID | <873477mndm.fsf@enoch.nodomain.nowhere> |
| In reply to | #7974 |
Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> writes: > I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to > your google account first. > > Steps I used: > Enter Google.com in the search bar. > Log-in to your Google Account > Success I can search Google again Only slightly tongue in cheek, I have to ask, "What is this google account of which you speak?" Some of us regard having a google account in the same domain as eating from dumpsters: Can imagine having to do it but never willingly. -- Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada
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| From | Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <2%bLQ.1232899$xYr1.215837@fx14.iad> |
| In reply to | #8024 |
On 2025-10-25, Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> wrote: > Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> writes: > >> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to >> your google account first. >> >> Steps I used: >> Enter Google.com in the search bar. >> Log-in to your Google Account >> Success I can search Google again > > Only slightly tongue in cheek, I have to ask, "What is this google > account of which you speak?" Some of us regard having a google account > in the same domain as eating from dumpsters: Can imagine having to do > it but never willingly. Agreed, although I see it as a bit more sinister. -- /~\ Charlie Gibbs | Growth for the sake of \ / <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> | growth is the ideology X I'm really at ac.dekanfrus | of the cancer cell. / \ if you read it the right way. | -- Edward Abbey
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