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  How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-13 23:08 -0500
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-14 01:19 -0400
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-14 09:39 -0700
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-14 14:43 -0400
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-14 11:48 -0700
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 20:26 +0100
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:49 -0500
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:51 -0500
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Dirk Fieldhouse <surname@gmx.net.removethisandtherest.example.invalid> - 2025-10-29 05:51 +0000
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-29 18:47 +0000
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Richard Owlett <rowlett@access.net> - 2025-10-29 15:11 -0500
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) kuato <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-06 22:15 -0700
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-07 22:56 +1100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Andi B." <andi.b@gmx.net> - 2025-11-07 17:21 +0100
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:54 +0100
                  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-08 11:54 +0000
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-29 15:23 -0500
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-10-30 12:28 +0100
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-30 19:31 +0000
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-31 20:18 +1100
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 10:48 +0000
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-03 22:51 +1100
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-11-03 16:54 +0000
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-03 18:28 +0000
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-04 19:29 +1100
                  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-11-04 09:26 +0000
                    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-04 21:40 +1100
                    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-04 18:49 +0200
                      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-05 19:32 +1100
                        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-05 23:11 +0200
                          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-06 19:57 +1100
                            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <invalid@nospam.com> - 2025-11-06 09:32 +0000
                            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-06 23:32 +0200
                              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-06 23:26 +0100
                                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> - 2025-11-07 10:41 +0100
                              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-11-06 18:12 -0600
                                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Jukka Lahtinen <jtfjdehf@hotmail.com.invalid> - 2025-11-07 17:52 +0200
        Re: How to make Google search work (solved) David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-29 16:22 -0600
          Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-29 17:34 -0500
            Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2025-10-30 01:22 +0100
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-29 22:04 -0600
                Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Dave Yeo <dave.r.yeo@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 22:02 -0700
                  Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Paul B. Gallagher" <mozilla@pbg-translations.com> - 2025-10-31 08:31 -0400
                    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-01 18:52 +1100
              Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "Adam H. Kerman" <ahk@chinet.com> - 2025-10-30 05:35 +0000
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) "David E. Ross" <nobody@nowhere.invalid> - 2025-10-14 08:52 -0700
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Paul Bergsagel <pbergsagel@shaw.ca> - 2025-10-14 21:53 -0500
    Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2025-10-25 04:49 -0300
      Re: How to make Google search work (solved) Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2025-10-25 22:16 +0000

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#8066

On 2025-10-29, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

>
> Even worse, DuckDuckGo has stopped working.  Type something into the
> search bar and hit <enter>, and the status line says "Waiting for
> improving.duckduckgo.com", and hangs there forever.
>
> Firefox still works normally.  But I hate its user interface.

Last I counted, duckduckgo has 3 different interfaces, or at least
had. So, in case one of these is useful to you:

1) The regular one,
2) a "HTML" one, and
3) a "lite" one.

2. https://html.duckduckgo.com/html/, which is blank here when it has no
   search query (possibly some CSS styling on their side?; search query
   goes in the "q" GET parameter (or at least that works here*) and that
   produces a readable results page); I guess I rarely see the front
   page issue because I use it through a search plugin.

3. https://lite.duckduckgo.com/lite/ (This seems to rely on POST
   parameters, which might be why I don't use it often? Does accept a
   "?q=..." in the initial request, though.)

My experiences with 2 and 3 are with JS disabled (via NoScript), so it's
possible something breaks with JS enabled, although I'd hope "HTML" and
"lite" would also mean "no JS"...

* Some search engine interfaces have options to choose between POST and
  GET parameters, I don't recall whether that is the case for DuckDuckGo
  or not.
  
-- 
Nuno Silva

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#8067

On 3/11/2025 9:48 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2025-10-29, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>>
>> Even worse, DuckDuckGo has stopped working.  Type something into the
>> search bar and hit <enter>, and the status line says "Waiting for
>> improving.duckduckgo.com", and hangs there forever.
>>
>> Firefox still works normally.  But I hate its user interface.
> 
> Last I counted, duckduckgo has 3 different interfaces, or at least
> had. So, in case one of these is useful to you:
> 
> 1) The regular one,
> 2) a "HTML" one, and
> 3) a "lite" one.
> 
> 2. https://html.duckduckgo.com/html/, which is blank here when it has no
>     search query (possibly some CSS styling on their side?; search query
>     goes in the "q" GET parameter (or at least that works here*) and that
>     produces a readable results page); I guess I rarely see the front
>     page issue because I use it through a search plugin.
> 
> 3. https://lite.duckduckgo.com/lite/ (This seems to rely on POST
>     parameters, which might be why I don't use it often? Does accept a
>     "?q=..." in the initial request, though.)
> 
> My experiences with 2 and 3 are with JS disabled (via NoScript), so it's
> possible something breaks with JS enabled, although I'd hope "HTML" and
> "lite" would also mean "no JS"...
> 
> * Some search engine interfaces have options to choose between POST and
>    GET parameters, I don't recall whether that is the case for DuckDuckGo
>    or not.
>    
> 
I've selected DDG as my prefered web search device in my SeaMonkey 
Preferences, so I just have to enter "Something or other" in the Browser 
address line, hit enter, and away DDG goes.
-- 
Daniel70

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#8069

On 2025-11-03, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

> On 3/11/2025 9:48 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:
>
>> My experiences with 2 and 3 are with JS disabled (via NoScript), so it's
>> possible something breaks with JS enabled, although I'd hope "HTML" and
>> "lite" would also mean "no JS"...

I run NoScript - but I'm having to "temporarily allow all on this page"
more and more.  Even Wikipedia is requiring JS on an increasing number
of its pages.

> I've selected DDG as my prefered web search device in my SeaMonkey 
> Preferences, so I just have to enter "Something or other" in the Browser 
> address line, hit enter, and away DDG goes.

Mine didn't do this, but I've now turned on the Preferences option to
"Perform a web search when entered text is not a web location."

I'm running Seamonkey 2.53.21 on Debian Bookworm.

-- 
/~\  Charlie Gibbs                  |  Growth for the sake of
\ /  <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid>      |  growth is the ideology
 X   I'm really at ac.dekanfrus     |  of the cancer cell.
/ \  if you read it the right way.  |    -- Edward Abbey

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#8070

On 2025-11-03, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

> On 2025-11-03, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>
>> On 3/11/2025 9:48 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>
>>> My experiences with 2 and 3 are with JS disabled (via NoScript), so it's
>>> possible something breaks with JS enabled, although I'd hope "HTML" and
>>> "lite" would also mean "no JS"...
>
> I run NoScript - but I'm having to "temporarily allow all on this page"
> more and more.  Even Wikipedia is requiring JS on an increasing number
> of its pages.

I'm mostly still able to use it without JS, even though sometimes
someone shares a link to the JS media viewer in an article, instead of
linking to the medium directly, and that won't work (but at least it has
the filename and isn't a common occurrence, so I can just look for it in
the page, or perhaps even build a valid URL).

Although I'm logged in, and that's why I'm able to use monobook there
comfortably.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#8073

On 4/11/2025 3:54 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> On 2025-11-03, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>> On 3/11/2025 9:48 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>
>>> My experiences with 2 and 3 are with JS disabled (via NoScript), so it's
>>> possible something breaks with JS enabled, although I'd hope "HTML" and
>>> "lite" would also mean "no JS"...
> 
> I run NoScript - but I'm having to "temporarily allow all on this page"
> more and more.  Even Wikipedia is requiring JS on an increasing number
> of its pages.
> 
>> I've selected DDG as my prefered web search device in my SeaMonkey
>> Preferences, so I just have to enter "Something or other" in the Browser
>> address line, hit enter, and away DDG goes.
> 
> Mine didn't do this, but I've now turned on the Preferences option to
> "Perform a web search when entered text is not a web location."
> 
> I'm running Seamonkey 2.53.21 on Debian Bookworm.
> 
Umm!! Where did you find THAT preference??
-- 
Daniel70

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#8075

On 2025-11-04, Daniel70 wrote:

> On 4/11/2025 3:54 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>> On 2025-11-03, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>> On 3/11/2025 9:48 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>
>>>> My experiences with 2 and 3 are with JS disabled (via NoScript), so it's
>>>> possible something breaks with JS enabled, although I'd hope "HTML" and
>>>> "lite" would also mean "no JS"...
>>
>> I run NoScript - but I'm having to "temporarily allow all on this page"
>> more and more.  Even Wikipedia is requiring JS on an increasing number
>> of its pages.
>>
>>> I've selected DDG as my prefered web search device in my SeaMonkey
>>> Preferences, so I just have to enter "Something or other" in the Browser
>>> address line, hit enter, and away DDG goes.
>>
>> Mine didn't do this, but I've now turned on the Preferences option to
>> "Perform a web search when entered text is not a web location."
>>
>> I'm running Seamonkey 2.53.21 on Debian Bookworm.
>>
> Umm!! Where did you find THAT preference??

It's the setting to search (or not) from the location bar

Edit > Preferences > Browser > Location Bar, under "Unknown Locations"
(it's the last checkbox in this pane).


(Even with this disabled, it's possible to search using the location
bar, by using bookmark keywords.)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#8076

On 4/11/2025 8:26 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:
> On 2025-11-04, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 4/11/2025 3:54 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
>>> On 2025-11-03, Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
>>>> On 3/11/2025 9:48 pm, Nuno Silva wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My experiences with 2 and 3 are with JS disabled (via NoScript), so it's
>>>>> possible something breaks with JS enabled, although I'd hope "HTML" and
>>>>> "lite" would also mean "no JS"...
>>>
>>> I run NoScript - but I'm having to "temporarily allow all on this page"
>>> more and more.  Even Wikipedia is requiring JS on an increasing number
>>> of its pages.
>>>
>>>> I've selected DDG as my prefered web search device in my SeaMonkey
>>>> Preferences, so I just have to enter "Something or other" in the Browser
>>>> address line, hit enter, and away DDG goes.
>>>
>>> Mine didn't do this, but I've now turned on the Preferences option to
>>> "Perform a web search when entered text is not a web location."
>>>
>>> I'm running Seamonkey 2.53.21 on Debian Bookworm.
>>>
>> Umm!! Where did you find THAT preference??
> 
> It's the setting to search (or not) from the location bar
> 
> Edit > Preferences > Browser > Location Bar, under "Unknown Locations"
> (it's the last checkbox in this pane).

WOW!! Yes, that one is there. I already had it ticked. Just never looked 
all the way to the bottom of the screen.

> (Even with this disabled, it's possible to search using the location
> bar, by using bookmark keywords.)
> -- 
Daniel70

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#8079

Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:
> On 2025-11-04, Daniel70 wrote:
>> On 4/11/2025 3:54 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:

>>> Mine didn't do this, but I've now turned on the Preferences option to
>>> "Perform a web search when entered text is not a web location."
>> Umm!! Where did you find THAT preference??

> Edit > Preferences > Browser > Location Bar, under "Unknown Locations"
> (it's the last checkbox in this pane).

Probably offtopic, but now that this option is mentioned, I have been
looking for a way to turn such feature OFF in Android Firefox.
I have only found a selection of search engines in the search options,
but even if I tick them all off, it still uses whatever has been chosen
as default search engine elsewhere.

-- 
Jukka Lahtinen

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#8087

On 5/11/2025 3:49 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
> Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:
>> On 2025-11-04, Daniel70 wrote:
>>> On 4/11/2025 3:54 am, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
> 
>>>> Mine didn't do this, but I've now turned on the Preferences option to
>>>> "Perform a web search when entered text is not a web location."
>>> Umm!! Where did you find THAT preference??
> 
>> Edit > Preferences > Browser > Location Bar, under "Unknown Locations"
>> (it's the last checkbox in this pane).
> 
> Probably offtopic, but now that this option is mentioned, I have been
> looking for a way to turn such feature OFF in Android Firefox.
> I have only found a selection of search engines in the search options,
> but even if I tick them all off, it still uses whatever has been chosen
> as default search engine elsewhere.
> 
If IT has been selected as "default" why shouldn't it be used??

Can you de-select it in that other place??

If you have NOTHING selected as "Default" or as "Your Choice", what is 
SeaMonkey supposed to use when you want to carry out a Search??
-- 
Daniel70

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#8097

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:
> On 5/11/2025 3:49 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:

>> looking for a way to turn such feature OFF in Android Firefox.
>> I have only found a selection of search engines in the search options,
>> but even if I tick them all off, it still uses whatever has been chosen
>> as default search engine elsewhere.

> If IT has been selected as "default" why shouldn't it be used??
> Can you de-select it in that other place??
> If you have NOTHING selected as "Default" or as "Your Choice", what is
> SeaMonkey supposed to use when you want to carry out a Search??

Search / default search engine (translated from the Finnish menu).
I have not found any way to select nothing as default. It's a radio
button set without "none" option.
Just options google, bing, duckduckgo, wikipedia and + to add another one.

-- 
Jukka Lahtinen

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#8099

On 6/11/2025 8:11 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:
>> On 5/11/2025 3:49 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
> 
>>> looking for a way to turn such feature OFF in Android Firefox.
>>> I have only found a selection of search engines in the search options,
>>> but even if I tick them all off, it still uses whatever has been chosen
>>> as default search engine elsewhere.
> 
>> If IT has been selected as "default" why shouldn't it be used??
>> Can you de-select it in that other place??
>> If you have NOTHING selected as "Default" or as "Your Choice", what is
>> SeaMonkey supposed to use when you want to carry out a Search??
> 
> Search / default search engine (translated from the Finnish menu).
> I have not found any way to select nothing as default. It's a radio
> button set without "none" option.
> Just options google, bing, duckduckgo, wikipedia and + to add another one.
> 
Why would you want to select "NO SEARCH ENGINE" as your default Search 
Engine??

Sounds stupid.
-- 
Daniel70

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#8100

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
> On 6/11/2025 8:11 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:
>>> On 5/11/2025 3:49 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
>> 
>>>> looking for a way to turn such feature OFF in Android Firefox.
>>>> I have only found a selection of search engines in the search options,
>>>> but even if I tick them all off, it still uses whatever has been chosen
>>>> as default search engine elsewhere.
>> 
>>> If IT has been selected as "default" why shouldn't it be used??
>>> Can you de-select it in that other place??
>>> If you have NOTHING selected as "Default" or as "Your Choice", what is
>>> SeaMonkey supposed to use when you want to carry out a Search??
>> 
>> Search / default search engine (translated from the Finnish menu).
>> I have not found any way to select nothing as default. It's a radio
>> button set without "none" option.
>> Just options google, bing, duckduckgo, wikipedia and + to add another one.
>> 
> Why would you want to select "NO SEARCH ENGINE" as your default Search 
> Engine??
> 
> Sounds stupid.

Why not?   It could even be labeled “Disable Search”.

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#8101

Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:
> On 6/11/2025 8:11 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:

(Trying to stop Android Firefox from using the url field as search
prompt)

>> Search / default search engine (translated from the Finnish menu).
>> I have not found any way to select nothing as default. It's a radio
>> button set without "none" option.
>> Just options google, bing, duckduckgo, wikipedia and + to add another one.

> Why would you want to select "NO SEARCH ENGINE" as your default Search
> Engine??

Because I DON'T WANT my browser to treat the url field as search engine
prompt!
If I type the name of a device in my home LAN to the url field, I
want to connect to that device, NOT to a search engine in the web.
And if I mistype something in the url, I don't want to wait for a search
engine.
There's the search applet on the home display of my phone, and I can
also type duckducgo.com to the url field if I want to initiate a search
from a browser.

-- 
Jukka Lahtinen

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#8102

Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:
>> On 6/11/2025 8:11 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
> 
> (Trying to stop Android Firefox from using the url field as search
> prompt)
> 
>>> Search / default search engine (translated from the Finnish menu).
>>> I have not found any way to select nothing as default. It's a radio
>>> button set without "none" option.
>>> Just options google, bing, duckduckgo, wikipedia and + to add another 
>>> one.
> 
>> Why would you want to select "NO SEARCH ENGINE" as your default Search
>> Engine??
> 
> Because I DON'T WANT my browser to treat the url field as search engine
> prompt!
> If I type the name of a device in my home LAN to the url field, I
> want to connect to that device, NOT to a search engine in the web.
> And if I mistype something in the url, I don't want to wait for a search
> engine.
> There's the search applet on the home display of my phone, and I can
> also type duckducgo.com to the url field if I want to initiate a search
> from a browser.
> 

Preferences -> Browser -> Location Bar
I permit "Automatically suggest web sites from History" (although not 
the "Match only web sites you've typed previously" for some reason)

Preferences -> Advanced -> Find As You Type
I have that deactivated.

What I absolutely do not want is for my browser to issue a query to 
DuckDuckGo after every character I type into the location bar, I don't 
mind it showing me URLs I've already visited because that works with my 
browsing history and not an external search engine.

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#8107

R Daneel Olivaw wrote:
> Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:
>>> On 6/11/2025 8:11 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
>>
>> (Trying to stop Android Firefox from using the url field as search
>> prompt)
>>
>>>> Search / default search engine (translated from the Finnish menu).
>>>> I have not found any way to select nothing as default. It's a radio
>>>> button set without "none" option.
>>>> Just options google, bing, duckduckgo, wikipedia and + to add 
>>>> another one.
>>
>>> Why would you want to select "NO SEARCH ENGINE" as your default Search
>>> Engine??
>>
>> Because I DON'T WANT my browser to treat the url field as search engine
>> prompt!
>> If I type the name of a device in my home LAN to the url field, I
>> want to connect to that device, NOT to a search engine in the web.
>> And if I mistype something in the url, I don't want to wait for a search
>> engine.
>> There's the search applet on the home display of my phone, and I can
>> also type duckducgo.com to the url field if I want to initiate a search
>> from a browser.
>>
> 
> Preferences -> Browser -> Location Bar
> I permit "Automatically suggest web sites from History" (although not 
> the "Match only web sites you've typed previously" for some reason)
> 
> Preferences -> Advanced -> Find As You Type
> I have that deactivated.
> 
> What I absolutely do not want is for my browser to issue a query to 
> DuckDuckGo after every character I type into the location bar, I don't 
> mind it showing me URLs I've already visited because that works with my 
> browsing history and not an external search engine.

Hi, your problem made me curious, so I played around a little bit and I 
found an option that may solve your problem.

On my SM 2.52.22, if you just disable "Perform a web search when entered 
text is not a web location" at "Edit->Preferences->Browser->Location 
bar" (the last option, down at the "Unknown Locations" section) then SM 
doesn't perform a search on your default search engine whenever you 
enter any random text on the location bar.

I wish this helps!

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#8103

Jukka Lahtinen wrote on 11/6/2025 3:32 PM:
> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:
>> On 6/11/2025 8:11 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
> 
> (Trying to stop Android Firefox from using the url field as search
> prompt)
> 
>>> Search / default search engine (translated from the Finnish menu).
>>> I have not found any way to select nothing as default. It's a radio
>>> button set without "none" option.
>>> Just options google, bing, duckduckgo, wikipedia and + to add another 
>>> one.
> 
>> Why would you want to select "NO SEARCH ENGINE" as your default Search
>> Engine??
> 
> Because I DON'T WANT my browser to treat the url field as search engine
> prompt!
> If I type the name of a device in my home LAN to the url field, I
> want to connect to that device, NOT to a search engine in the web.
> And if I mistype something in the url, I don't want to wait for a search
> engine.
> There's the search applet on the home display of my phone, and I can
> also type duckducgo.com to the url field if I want to initiate a search
> from a browser.
>


Oops.  My apologies.  I didn't realize you were trying to use seamonkey 
on a telephone!  I didn't even know it could run on a phone.  Good luck!

I guess I wasn't paying attention.  Sorry.

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#8111

Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> writes:
> Jukka Lahtinen wrote on 11/6/2025 3:32 PM:
>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes:
>>> On 6/11/2025 8:11 am, Jukka Lahtinen wrote:
>> (Trying to stop Android Firefox from using the url field as search
>> prompt)
>> 
>>>> Search / default search engine (translated from the Finnish menu).
>>>> I have not found any way to select nothing as default. It's a radio
>>>> button set without "none" option.
>>>> Just options google, bing, duckduckgo, wikipedia and + to add
>>>> another one.
>> 
>>> Why would you want to select "NO SEARCH ENGINE" as your default Search
>>> Engine??
>> Because I DON'T WANT my browser to treat the url field as search
>> engine
>> prompt!
>> If I type the name of a device in my home LAN to the url field, I
>> want to connect to that device, NOT to a search engine in the web.
>> And if I mistype something in the url, I don't want to wait for a search
>> engine.
>> There's the search applet on the home display of my phone, and I can
>> also type duckducgo.com to the url field if I want to initiate a search
>> from a browser.

> Oops.  My apologies.  I didn't realize you were trying to use
> seamonkey on a telephone!  I didn't even know it could run on a phone.

Actually I was talking about Firefox. I haven't found an android version
of Seamonkey, I don't think one exists.

-- 
Jukka Lahtinen

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#8042

Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>
>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>> your google account first.
>>>
>>> Steps I used:
>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>> Success I can search Google again
>>
>> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google
>> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
>>
> 
> In any case G search now
> <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript>
> requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work
> without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a
> pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be
> both simple and effective.
> 
> StartPage searches B! without JS, but not G.
> 
> Brave search has a poorer index and only asks for JS if you use it
> intensively.
> 
> Otherwise a self-hosted https://4get.ca (PHP FFS) or similar ...
> 
> /df
> 


I've been using StartPage for years and I have just started using Grok 
for some inquiries.  I also took a look at Grokipedia when it came out 
which looks interesting.

Dave

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#8043

David H Durgee wrote on 10/29/2025 5:22 PM:
> Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>
>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>> your google account first.
>>>>
>>>> Steps I used:
>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>> Success I can search Google again
>>>
>>> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google
>>> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
>>>
>>
>> In any case G search now
>> <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript>
>> requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work
>> without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a
>> pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be
>> both simple and effective.
>>
>> StartPage searches B! without JS, but not G.
>>
>> Brave search has a poorer index and only asks for JS if you use it
>> intensively.
>>
>> Otherwise a self-hosted https://4get.ca (PHP FFS) or similar ...
>>
>> /df
>>
> 
> 
> I've been using StartPage for years and I have just started using Grok 
> for some inquiries.  I also took a look at Grokipedia when it came out 
> which looks interesting.
> 
> Dave

Yeah that's elon musk's new stuff launched 2 days ago. Don't let trump 
find out you're using it!

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#8044

On 29.10.2025 23:34, Hank Rogers wrote:
> David H Durgee wrote on 10/29/2025 5:22 PM:
>> Dirk Fieldhouse wrote:
>>> On 14/10/2025 06:19, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>> Paul Bergsagel wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I have solved the issue of Google not working. You need to LOG-IN to
>>>>> your google account first.
>>>>>
>>>>> Steps I used:
>>>>> Enter Google.com in the search bar.
>>>>> Log-in to your Google Account
>>>>> Success I can search Google again
>>>>
>>>> Sure. But if you do that, all your searches become part of your Google
>>>> profile. If you care about privacy, find another solution.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In any case G search now
>>> <https://daringfireball.net/linked/2025/01/18/google-search-javascript>
>>> requires www.google.com enabled for JS, so you can't make it work
>>> without buying Alphabet, building a time machine, or similar. Which is a
>>> pretty tragic case of enshittification given that G search used to be
>>> both simple and effective.
>>>
>>> StartPage searches B! without JS, but not G.
>>>
>>> Brave search has a poorer index and only asks for JS if you use it
>>> intensively.
>>>
>>> Otherwise a self-hosted https://4get.ca (PHP FFS) or similar ...
>>>
>>> /df
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> I've been using StartPage for years and I have just started using Grok 
>> for some inquiries.  I also took a look at Grokipedia when it came out 
>> which looks interesting.
>> 
>> Dave
> 
> Yeah that's elon musk's new stuff launched 2 days ago. Don't let trump 
> find out you're using it!
> 

OMFG are you US people stupid!
goto hell!

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