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| Started by | David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> |
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| First post | 2025-10-08 10:20 -0600 |
| Last post | 2025-10-30 22:45 +1100 |
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Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-08 10:20 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-08 18:19 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-08 12:55 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-08 13:42 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Mark Bourne <nntp.mbourne@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-10-08 20:59 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-08 16:11 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-09 12:41 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-09 13:25 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-09 11:58 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-10 11:15 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-10 14:40 -0700
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-10 17:53 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-11 13:07 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-12 00:06 +1100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 14:02 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 14:28 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 16:02 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 19:29 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-14 13:47 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 21:05 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 10:22 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-09 20:19 +1100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-09 09:21 -0700
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-09 09:32 -0700
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-09 19:56 +1100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-09 12:47 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-09 23:01 +1100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-09 13:38 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-09 14:00 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-10 00:33 +1100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-10 23:51 +1100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-16 11:54 -0600
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-16 14:37 -0500
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-16 21:52 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-17 20:43 +1100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 12:04 +0100
Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-30 22:45 +1100
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-12 10:22 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10cfs12$1as5r$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7921 |
On 2025-10-09, David H Durgee wrote: > David H Durgee wrote: >> Mark Bourne wrote: >>> David H Durgee wrote: >>>> David H Durgee wrote: >>>>> Richmond wrote: >>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes: >>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string> >>>>>>> [...] >> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away. I still >> see one No Script related error listed: >> >>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on >>> https://api.login.yahoo.com/oauth2/request_auth?response_type=code&client_id=dj0yJmk9NUtCTWFMNVpTaVJmJmQ9WVdrOVJ6UjVTa2xJTXpRbWNHbzlNQS0tJnM9Y29uc3VtZXJzZWNyZXQmeD0yYw--&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Flocalhost&scope=mail-w&login_hint=dhdurgee%40yahoo.com >>> >> >> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it >> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to >> oauth2 based on the URL. >> >> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this. >> >> Dave > > I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in a > Firefox tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able to > complete to a point where it tried to do something with localhost that > failed. It even sent me an email to my backup account about a > Thunderbird login. (Just to clarify: The localhost part is because of the redirect_uri parameter in the OAuth2 request, if you open this address in a browser, it will try to redirect to localhost on success, that's expected.) -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-09 20:19 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10c7umr$2h03g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7902 |
On 9/10/2025 6:59 am, Mark Bourne wrote: > David H Durgee wrote: >> David H Durgee wrote: >>> Richmond wrote: >>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes: >>>> >>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from >>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail. >>>>> >>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I >>>>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens. >>>>> >>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for >>>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here. >>>>> >>>>> The URL for the window shows as: >>>>> >>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string> >>>>> >>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top. No right click menu. >>>>> >>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL. >>>>> >>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap... >>>>> >>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is >>>>> non-functional all I can do is close the window. >>>>> >>>>> How do I get this corrected? >>>>> >>>>> Dave >>>> >>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable >>>> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA? >>>> >>> >>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections, but >>> perhaps I missed it. Looking in my passwords do not show one for >>> that email address, so that may be the problem. >>> >>> I will look into how I need to get that working. >>> >>> Dave >> >> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this. How do I fix >> that? >> >> Dave > > I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is > NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which > domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other > domains. It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load > Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured ABE > rules that prevent that. As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled by > default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default even if > enabled. So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know you've enabled > ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to work out how to adjust > whatever rules you've set up. > > Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this context...! > Mark, as I've just responded elsewhere in this thread, I, too, have been experiencing this same problem with Yahoo Mail for the last couple of days. I don't have/have never had the NoScript Add-on installed on this computer .... but Yahoo Mail DID function until the last couple of days. Just on spec, I cleared the Error Console (Tools -> Web Development -> Error Console) and then re-tried with SeaMonkey to log-in to my Yahoo Mail account but failed. The Error Console screen was filled with .... Expected declaration but found '*'. Skipped to next declaration. https://s.yimg.com/wm/mbr/172...............28e8/yahoo-main.css Line: 7 .... and lots of other Error messages as well! -- Daniel70
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| From | NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-09 09:21 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10c8nei$30mhq$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7902 |
Mark Bourne wrote: >>> >>> Dave >> >> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this. How do I fix >> that? >> >> Dave > > I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is > NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which > domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other > domains. It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load > Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured ABE > rules that prevent that. As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled by > default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default even if > enabled. So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know you've enabled > ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to work out how to adjust > whatever rules you've set up. > > Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this context...! > I'm a NoScript user, but have never interacted with ABE. If NoScript is active, then it can be disruptive to mail connections. At the very least, you need to make sure that all of the scripting hosts that Yahoo mail uses have been whitelisted. A good place to start would be to make sure you have whitelisted the Yahoo sites that mail.yahoo.com uses for web access. That would include yahoo.com, yahoo.net, oath.com and yimg.com. The web client also uses googletagmanager, which may be necessary for use there, but probably isn't necessary for POP/IMAP/SMTP from the Seamonkey mail client. I would also whitelist yahooapis.com I know that with Microsoft servers and OAuth2, I found that all of the authentication processes that they use take a little bit of effort to find all the necessary servers to whitelist, but I do have that working. But Yahoo's processes are far less complex than what Microsoft is imposing on its users. Smith
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| From | NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-09 09:32 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <10c8o3o$316j4$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7900 |
David H Durgee wrote: >> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable >> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA? >> > > I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections, but > perhaps I missed it. Looking in my passwords do not show one for that > email address, so that may be the problem. I noted elsewhere in this thread that if NoScript is installed, then you definitely need to whitelist all the Yahoo-related domains in use (or as a testing thing, temporarily disable NoScript). I believe that OAuth2 *is* a form of MFA. Yahoo hasn't been as enthusiastic as Gmail and Microsoft about doing OAuth2, and I think the current status is that they're supporting OAuth2 (and probably preferring it). The alternative to OAuth2 is that they continue to support "application passwords", where you go into Yahoo's configs and get a separate password that you save into your mail client, and where that's a different password than what you use to log into Yahoo directly. I just made a check of my own Yahoo account, and I see that it's set to use Normal authentication, which would mean that I haven't bothered to convert that account OAuth2 (at least not in Seamonkey -- I also have that in setups on other machines, and I may have enabled OAuth2 there). Probably the first step would be to review Yahoo's documentation on configuration of Thunderbird, and that should include instructions both on how to work with OAuth2 as well as a secondary password. If you choose to continue with a secondary password, get a new one, and if you're getting a prompt for a password, enter that password. On the other hand, I've lived with OAuth2 long enough that I'm used to it. Thus, you could go the route of removing all Yahoo passwords saved in the password manager. Then, when you try to check mail, you'll get the normal password request (enter your normal Yahoo password), and then when Seamonkey tries to connect to Yahoo's server, you should see a pop-up that demands your password. When you re-enter your regular password, then the OAuth2 token gets created, and should be sufficient for ongoing use. I will note that this is how it *should* work, and I haven't actually seen Yahoo's dialogs recently enough to know if there's something I'm missing. Smith
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-09 19:56 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10c7tbf$2g5ok$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7899 |
On 9/10/2025 4:19 am, Richmond wrote: > David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes: > >> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from >> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail. >> >> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I >> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens. >> >> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for >> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here. >> >> The URL for the window shows as: >> >> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string> >> >> The window can be moved but remains on top. No right click menu. >> >> Cannot highlight and copy the URL. >> >> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap... >> >> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is >> non-functional all I can do is close the window. >> >> How do I get this corrected? >> >> Dave > > It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable > javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA? > Good suggestions, Richmond, but I have been experiencing the same thing with Yahoo mail over the past couple of days after it having worked for many years (since approx Feb 2018). I have made NO CHANGES to my SeaMonkey installation. Yahoo mail just stopped working on Tuesday evening, I think i.e. two days ago .... So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo mail ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. I'm sure the SM Devs are working at it. -- Daniel70
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| From | Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-09 12:47 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <86frbsnvoy.fsf@example.com> |
| In reply to | #7907 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: > So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No problems > .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its system/coding which now > causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo mail ..... as so many other > sites are failing as well. > If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3?
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-09 23:01 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10c886l$2mrti$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7910 |
On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: > >> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No problems >> .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its system/coding which now >> causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo mail ..... as so many other >> sites are failing as well. >> > > If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is it > webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using Seamonkey > Mail with Imap or POP3? > Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any e-mail account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. -- Daniel70
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| From | Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-09 13:38 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <86bjmgntb3.fsf@example.com> |
| In reply to | #7911 |
Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: > On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >> >>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo mail >>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>> >> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is >> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >> > Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my > SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any e-mail > account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. > > With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested webmail and you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even when I changed the user agent to chromium.
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| From | Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-09 14:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10c8bkq$2mc32$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7913 |
On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: > Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: > >> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>> >>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo mail >>>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>> >>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is >>> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >>> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>> >> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any e-mail >> account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >> >> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. > > OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new > thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested webmail and > you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even when I > changed the user agent to chromium. Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is it not clear which one is failing? -- Nuno Silva
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-10 00:33 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10c8djh$2q5jm$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7914 |
On 10/10/2025 12:00 am, Nuno Silva wrote: > On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: >> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>> >>>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo mail >>>>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>>> >>>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is >>>> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >>>> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>>> >>> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >>> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any e-mail >>> account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >>> >>> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. >> >> OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new >> thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested webmail and >> you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even when I >> changed the user agent to chromium. > > Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is it > not clear which one is failing? > With my Webmail, enter email address, new screen asking for Password, but even with correct Password, I just see a little spinning wheel at right hand end of "Next" bar. -- Daniel70
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-10 23:51 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10cavh5$27ki$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7915 |
On 10/10/2025 12:33 am, Daniel70 wrote: > On 10/10/2025 12:00 am, Nuno Silva wrote: >> On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: >>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo mail >>>>>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>>>> >>>>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is >>>>> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >>>>> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>>>> >>>> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >>>> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any e-mail >>>> account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >>>> >>>> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. >>> >>> OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new >>> thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested webmail and >>> you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even when I >>> changed the user agent to chromium. >> >> Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is it >> not clear which one is failing? >> > With my Webmail, enter email address, new screen asking for Password, > but even with correct Password, I just see a little spinning wheel at > right hand end of "Next" bar. Elsewhere in this thread (in the discussion of Yahoo-mail NOW failing to download e-mail into an local SeaMonkey e-mail) it was suggested to try a new profile to see if that worked. Just FYI, I've just now created a new Profile (Tools - Switch Profiles - Manage Profiles -> Create Profile) and, in that Browser Only incarnation, I tried logging into my Yahoo mail account (then went and made my Dinner) ..... and failed with the spinning wheel span and span. So I don't think making a new Profile will fix the OP. -- Daniel70
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| From | David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> |
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| Date | 2025-10-16 11:54 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <mlcpqmFmvcpU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #7925 |
Daniel70 wrote: > On 10/10/2025 12:33 am, Daniel70 wrote: >> On 10/10/2025 12:00 am, Nuno Silva wrote: >>> On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: >>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>>>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>>>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo mail >>>>>>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>>>>> >>>>>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is >>>>>> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >>>>>> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>>>>> >>>>> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >>>>> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any e-mail >>>>> account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >>>>> >>>>> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. >>>> >>>> OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new >>>> thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested webmail and >>>> you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even when I >>>> changed the user agent to chromium. >>> >>> Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is it >>> not clear which one is failing? >>> >> With my Webmail, enter email address, new screen asking for Password, >> but even with correct Password, I just see a little spinning wheel at >> right hand end of "Next" bar. > > Elsewhere in this thread (in the discussion of Yahoo-mail NOW failing to > download e-mail into an local SeaMonkey e-mail) it was suggested to try > a new profile to see if that worked. > > Just FYI, I've just now created a new Profile (Tools - Switch Profiles - > Manage Profiles -> Create Profile) and, in that Browser Only > incarnation, I tried logging into my Yahoo mail account (then went and > made my Dinner) ..... and failed with the spinning wheel span and span. > > So I don't think making a new Profile will fix the OP. I have tried several times to get Yahoo mail working in SeaMonkey mail without success. I finally decided to try doing so using app passwords and got nowhere there either. At this point I broke down and opened Thunderbird. I was able to quickly get Yahoo mail set up there. I have disabled Yahoo mail in SeaMonkey. If anyone has Yahoo mail working with IMAP/SMTP in SeaMonkey mail and can tell me exactly how they got it working I will be happy to try again, but until that point I am stuck with Thunderbird for it. Dave
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| From | Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-10-16 14:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10crhih$kgtr$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7992 |
David H Durgee wrote on 10/16/2025 12:54 PM: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 10/10/2025 12:33 am, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 10/10/2025 12:00 am, Nuno Silva wrote: >>>> On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: >>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>>>>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>>>>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo >>>>>>>> mail >>>>>>>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is >>>>>>> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >>>>>>> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >>>>>> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any >>>>>> e-mail >>>>>> account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. >>>>> >>>>> OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new >>>>> thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested webmail >>>>> and >>>>> you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even when I >>>>> changed the user agent to chromium. >>>> >>>> Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is it >>>> not clear which one is failing? >>>> >>> With my Webmail, enter email address, new screen asking for Password, >>> but even with correct Password, I just see a little spinning wheel at >>> right hand end of "Next" bar. >> >> Elsewhere in this thread (in the discussion of Yahoo-mail NOW failing >> to download e-mail into an local SeaMonkey e-mail) it was suggested to >> try a new profile to see if that worked. >> >> Just FYI, I've just now created a new Profile (Tools - Switch Profiles >> - Manage Profiles -> Create Profile) and, in that Browser Only >> incarnation, I tried logging into my Yahoo mail account (then went and >> made my Dinner) ..... and failed with the spinning wheel span and span. >> >> So I don't think making a new Profile will fix the OP. > > I have tried several times to get Yahoo mail working in SeaMonkey mail > without success. I finally decided to try doing so using app passwords > and got nowhere there either. > > At this point I broke down and opened Thunderbird. I was able to > quickly get Yahoo mail set up there. I have disabled Yahoo mail in > SeaMonkey. > > If anyone has Yahoo mail working with IMAP/SMTP in SeaMonkey mail and > can tell me exactly how they got it working I will be happy to try > again, but until that point I am stuck with Thunderbird for it. > > Dave I just set up Imap yahoo email in seamonkey. I used this info when setting up: https://help.yahoo.com/kb/SLN4075.html In seamonkey's server settings I chose Qauth2. It seems to be working, but at this point, I haven't changed the outgoing server to yahoo yet, so if it works, it will be using the google smtp server to send mail. I'll change this next. Good luck
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| From | Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-16 21:52 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <868qha6034.fsf@example.com> |
| In reply to | #7992 |
David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 10/10/2025 12:33 am, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 10/10/2025 12:00 am, Nuno Silva wrote: >>>> On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: >>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>>>>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>>>>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo >>>>>>>> mail ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, >>>>>>> so is it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you >>>>>>> using Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >>>>>> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any >>>>>> e-mail account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. >>>>> >>>>> OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new >>>>> thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested >>>>> webmail and you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey >>>>> browser, even when I changed the user agent to chromium. >>>> >>>> Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is >>>> it not clear which one is failing? >>>> >>> With my Webmail, enter email address, new screen asking for >>> Password, but even with correct Password, I just see a little >>> spinning wheel at right hand end of "Next" bar. >> Elsewhere in >>> this thread (in the discussion of Yahoo-mail NOW >> failing to >>> download e-mail into an local SeaMonkey e-mail) it was >> suggested >>> to try a new profile to see if that worked. >> Just FYI, I've just >>> now created a new Profile (Tools - Switch >> Profiles - Manage >>> Profiles -> Create Profile) and, in that Browser >> Only >>> incarnation, I tried logging into my Yahoo mail account (then >> >>> went and made my Dinner) ..... and failed with the spinning wheel >> >>> span and span. >> So I don't think making a new Profile will fix >>> the OP. > > I have tried several times to get Yahoo mail working in SeaMonkey mail > without success. I finally decided to try doing so using app > passwords and got nowhere there either. > > At this point I broke down and opened Thunderbird. I was able to > quickly get Yahoo mail set up there. I have disabled Yahoo mail in > SeaMonkey. > > If anyone has Yahoo mail working with IMAP/SMTP in SeaMonkey mail and > can tell me exactly how they got it working I will be happy to try > again, but until that point I am stuck with Thunderbird for it. > Yes I have had it working with an app password for a long time, and because you started this thread I managed to get it working with Oauth2 and described in detail how I did it, but it was no fun at all. I recommend using an app password and second factor authentication for security.
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-17 20:43 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10ct34u$10imp$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #7992 |
On 17/10/2025 4:54 am, David H Durgee wrote: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 10/10/2025 12:33 am, Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 10/10/2025 12:00 am, Nuno Silva wrote: >>>> On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: >>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>>>>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>>>>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo >>>>>>>> mail >>>>>>>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, so is >>>>>>> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >>>>>>> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>>>>>> >>>>>> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >>>>>> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any >>>>>> e-mail >>>>>> account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. >>>>> >>>>> OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new >>>>> thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested webmail >>>>> and >>>>> you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even when I >>>>> changed the user agent to chromium. >>>> >>>> Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is it >>>> not clear which one is failing? >>>> >>> With my Webmail, enter email address, new screen asking for Password, >>> but even with correct Password, I just see a little spinning wheel at >>> right hand end of "Next" bar. >> >> Elsewhere in this thread (in the discussion of Yahoo-mail NOW failing >> to download e-mail into an local SeaMonkey e-mail) it was suggested to >> try a new profile to see if that worked. >> >> Just FYI, I've just now created a new Profile (Tools - Switch Profiles >> - Manage Profiles -> Create Profile) and, in that Browser Only >> incarnation, I tried logging into my Yahoo mail account (then went and >> made my Dinner) ..... and failed with the spinning wheel span and span. >> >> So I don't think making a new Profile will fix the OP. > > I have tried several times to get Yahoo mail working in SeaMonkey mail > without success. I finally decided to try doing so using app passwords > and got nowhere there either. > > At this point I broke down and opened Thunderbird. I was able to > quickly get Yahoo mail set up there. I have disabled Yahoo mail in > SeaMonkey. > > If anyone has Yahoo mail working with IMAP/SMTP in SeaMonkey mail and > can tell me exactly how they got it working I will be happy to try > again, but until that point I am stuck with Thunderbird for it. > > Dave Well, reading the other two responses to your post, David, it seems it is possible to set your computer up to download your e-mail from yahoo. I had wondered if I was unable to download my mail because I was using a freebie Yahoo e-mail account .... but it seems not. -- Daniel70
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| From | Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 12:04 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <6c158194-b753-3ae4-cb13-941c465c2c5b@gmail.com> |
| In reply to | #7995 |
Daniel70 wrote: > On 17/10/2025 4:54 am, David H Durgee wrote: >> Daniel70 wrote: >>> On 10/10/2025 12:33 am, Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 10/10/2025 12:00 am, Nuno Silva wrote: >>>>> On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: >>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>>> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>>>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>>>>>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>>>>>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with Yahoo >>>>>>>>> mail >>>>>>>>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, >>>>>>>> so is >>>>>>>> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >>>>>>>> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >>>>>>> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any >>>>>>> e-mail >>>>>>> account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. >>>>>> >>>>>> OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new >>>>>> thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested >>>>>> webmail and >>>>>> you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even >>>>>> when I >>>>>> changed the user agent to chromium. >>>>> >>>>> Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is it >>>>> not clear which one is failing? >>>>> >>>> With my Webmail, enter email address, new screen asking for >>>> Password, but even with correct Password, I just see a little >>>> spinning wheel at right hand end of "Next" bar. >>> >>> Elsewhere in this thread (in the discussion of Yahoo-mail NOW failing >>> to download e-mail into an local SeaMonkey e-mail) it was suggested >>> to try a new profile to see if that worked. >>> >>> Just FYI, I've just now created a new Profile (Tools - Switch >>> Profiles - Manage Profiles -> Create Profile) and, in that Browser >>> Only incarnation, I tried logging into my Yahoo mail account (then >>> went and made my Dinner) ..... and failed with the spinning wheel >>> span and span. >>> >>> So I don't think making a new Profile will fix the OP. >> >> I have tried several times to get Yahoo mail working in SeaMonkey mail >> without success. I finally decided to try doing so using app >> passwords and got nowhere there either. >> >> At this point I broke down and opened Thunderbird. I was able to >> quickly get Yahoo mail set up there. I have disabled Yahoo mail in >> SeaMonkey. >> >> If anyone has Yahoo mail working with IMAP/SMTP in SeaMonkey mail and >> can tell me exactly how they got it working I will be happy to try >> again, but until that point I am stuck with Thunderbird for it. >> >> Dave > > Well, reading the other two responses to your post, David, it seems it > is possible to set your computer up to download your e-mail from yahoo. > > I had wondered if I was unable to download my mail because I was using a > freebie Yahoo e-mail account .... but it seems not. Hi, after some prove&error tests, I managed to get my Yahoo! mail account under SM mail v2.53.21 using application passwords generated with the help o a FF (we all have one for the pages we can't see with SM, right?) My tries to got it work with OAUTH2 didn't work, all I got was the spinning wheel and finally a timeout. Here are the steps I've done: 1. Open you Yahoo! account on a firefox browser and generate a new Application password for thunderbird IMAP connections. 2. Open seamonkey mail app and add a new account or edit yours. The correct server parameters are the following: Server type: IMAP Mail Server -Server Name: imap.mail.yahoo.com -Server Port: 993 -Username: your yahoo e-mail Security Setting: -Connection Security: SSL/TLS -Authentication method: Normal Password 3. Clic on Get Msgs... -A dialog asking for a password will appear -Come back to FF and copy the application password you generated before, and paste it on seamonkey's mail password dialog and don't forget to check the remember password option, because Yahoo! won't reveal the application password again. If you want to configure the Yahoo! smtp server, you need generate another application password under FF and paste it on SM whent it asks, and mark the save password option. This is my Server configuration for SMTP: -Server Name: smtp.mail.yahoo.com -Port: 465 Security Settings -Connection Security: SSL/TLS -Authentication method: Normal Password -User name: your yahoo e-mail Remember that smtp servers are hold indenpent, so you should choose one for any imap server that you have configured or the default one would be used. I hope this helps!
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| From | Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> |
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| Date | 2025-10-30 22:45 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <10dvj4r$3l5vk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #8047 |
On 30/10/2025 10:04 pm, Jordi Garcia Soler wrote: > Daniel70 wrote: >> On 17/10/2025 4:54 am, David H Durgee wrote: >>> Daniel70 wrote: >>>> On 10/10/2025 12:33 am, Daniel70 wrote: >>>>> On 10/10/2025 12:00 am, Nuno Silva wrote: >>>>>> On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote: >>>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>>>> On 9/10/2025 10:47 pm, Richmond wrote: >>>>>>>>> Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> writes: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> So I am now logging in to my Yahoo account using Firefox. No >>>>>>>>>> problems .... so I expect Yahoo has made changes to its >>>>>>>>>> system/coding which now causes SeaMonkey to not work with >>>>>>>>>> Yahoo mail >>>>>>>>>> ..... as so many other sites are failing as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you are logging in with firefox then you are using webmail, >>>>>>>>> so is >>>>>>>>> it webmail that is not working with Seamonkey? Or are you using >>>>>>>>> Seamonkey Mail with Imap or POP3? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yahoo Webmail (i.e. in a Browser Tab) has not worked for me in my >>>>>>>> SeaMonkey Browser screen for a couple of days. I don't have any >>>>>>>> e-mail >>>>>>>> account set up in SeaMonkey Mail. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> With Firefox ... Yahoo Mail is not a problem. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OK well this thread is about Imap. Perhaps you should create a new >>>>>>> thread about webmail to avoid muddying the waters? I tested >>>>>>> webmail and >>>>>>> you are right, it doesn't work with the seamonkey browser, even >>>>>>> when I >>>>>>> changed the user agent to chromium. >>>>>> >>>>>> Is the webmail itself that does not work or just logging in? Or is it >>>>>> not clear which one is failing? >>>>>> >>>>> With my Webmail, enter email address, new screen asking for >>>>> Password, but even with correct Password, I just see a little >>>>> spinning wheel at right hand end of "Next" bar. >>>> >>>> Elsewhere in this thread (in the discussion of Yahoo-mail NOW >>>> failing to download e-mail into an local SeaMonkey e-mail) it was >>>> suggested to try a new profile to see if that worked. >>>> >>>> Just FYI, I've just now created a new Profile (Tools - Switch >>>> Profiles - Manage Profiles -> Create Profile) and, in that Browser >>>> Only incarnation, I tried logging into my Yahoo mail account (then >>>> went and made my Dinner) ..... and failed with the spinning wheel >>>> span and span. >>>> >>>> So I don't think making a new Profile will fix the OP. >>> >>> I have tried several times to get Yahoo mail working in SeaMonkey >>> mail without success. I finally decided to try doing so using app >>> passwords and got nowhere there either. >>> >>> At this point I broke down and opened Thunderbird. I was able to >>> quickly get Yahoo mail set up there. I have disabled Yahoo mail in >>> SeaMonkey. >>> >>> If anyone has Yahoo mail working with IMAP/SMTP in SeaMonkey mail and >>> can tell me exactly how they got it working I will be happy to try >>> again, but until that point I am stuck with Thunderbird for it. >>> >>> Dave >> >> Well, reading the other two responses to your post, David, it seems it >> is possible to set your computer up to download your e-mail from yahoo. >> >> I had wondered if I was unable to download my mail because I was using >> a freebie Yahoo e-mail account .... but it seems not. > > Hi, after some prove&error tests, I managed to get my Yahoo! mail > account under SM mail v2.53.21 using application passwords generated > with the help o a FF (we all have one for the pages we can't see with > SM, right?) > > My tries to got it work with OAUTH2 didn't work, all I got was the > spinning wheel and finally a timeout. > > Here are the steps I've done: > > 1. Open you Yahoo! account on a firefox browser and generate a new > Application password for thunderbird IMAP connections. > 2. Open seamonkey mail app and add a new account or edit yours. The > correct server parameters are the following: > Server type: IMAP Mail Server > -Server Name: imap.mail.yahoo.com > -Server Port: 993 > -Username: your yahoo e-mail > Security Setting: > -Connection Security: SSL/TLS > -Authentication method: Normal Password > 3. Clic on Get Msgs... > -A dialog asking for a password will appear > -Come back to FF and copy the application password you generated > before, and paste it on seamonkey's mail password dialog and don't > forget to check the remember password option, because Yahoo! won't > reveal the application password again. > > If you want to configure the Yahoo! smtp server, you need generate > another application password under FF and paste it on SM whent it asks, > and mark the save password option. > This is my Server configuration for SMTP: > -Server Name: smtp.mail.yahoo.com > -Port: 465 > Security Settings > -Connection Security: SSL/TLS > -Authentication method: Normal Password > -User name: your yahoo e-mail > > Remember that smtp servers are hold indenpent, so you should choose one > for any imap server that you have configured or the default one would be > used. > > I hope this helps! I sure it does, or, at least, WILL if ever I can be bothered to set it all up. I've got a lot of stuff on my Yahoo account .... I don't know IF I actually want it on mt SSD!! ;-) -- Daniel70
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