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Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com

Started byDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
First post2025-10-08 10:20 -0600
Last post2025-10-30 22:45 +1100
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  Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-08 10:20 -0600
    Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-08 18:19 +0100
      Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-08 12:55 -0600
        Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-08 13:42 -0600
          Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Mark Bourne <nntp.mbourne@spamgourmet.com> - 2025-10-08 20:59 +0100
            Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-08 16:11 -0600
              Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-09 12:41 +0100
                Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-09 13:25 +0100
              Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-09 11:58 -0600
                Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-10 11:15 -0600
                  Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-10 14:40 -0700
                    Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-10 17:53 -0600
                      Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-11 13:07 +0100
                        Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-12 00:06 +1100
                  Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 14:02 +0100
                    Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 14:28 +0100
                      Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 16:02 +0100
                        Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 19:29 +0100
                          Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-14 13:47 -0600
                            Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-14 21:05 +0100
                Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-12 10:22 +0100
            Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-09 20:19 +1100
            Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-09 09:21 -0700
        Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com NFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com> - 2025-10-09 09:32 -0700
      Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-09 19:56 +1100
        Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-09 12:47 +0100
          Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-09 23:01 +1100
            Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-09 13:38 +0100
              Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-10-09 14:00 +0100
                Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-10 00:33 +1100
                  Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-10 23:51 +1100
                    Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-10-16 11:54 -0600
                      Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Hank Rogers <Hank@nospam.invalid> - 2025-10-16 14:37 -0500
                      Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-10-16 21:52 +0100
                      Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-17 20:43 +1100
                        Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Jordi Garcia Soler <jordialcoister@gmail.com> - 2025-10-30 12:04 +0100
                          Re: Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-10-30 22:45 +1100

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#7898 — Problematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com

FromDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
Date2025-10-08 10:20 -0600
SubjectProblematic popup for imap.mail.yahoo.com
Message-ID<mknh9jF1qqoU1@mid.individual.net>
Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from 
imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.

The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I 
enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens.

I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for 
SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.

The URL for the window shows as:

https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>

The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.

Cannot highlight and copy the URL.

The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...

Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is 
non-functional all I can do is close the window.

How do I get this corrected?

Dave

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#7899

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-10-08 18:19 +0100
Message-ID<864is9pb09.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#7898
David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:

> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>
> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens.
>
> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>
> The URL for the window shows as:
>
> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>
> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>
> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>
> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>
> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>
> How do I get this corrected?
>
> Dave

It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable
javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?

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#7900

FromDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
Date2025-10-08 12:55 -0600
Message-ID<mknqcbF3a78U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7899
Richmond wrote:
> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
> 
>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>
>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens.
>>
>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>
>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>
>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>
>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>>
>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>
>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>
>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
>> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>
>> How do I get this corrected?
>>
>> Dave
> 
> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable
> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
> 

I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections, but 
perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one for that 
email address, so that may be the problem.

I will look into how I need to get that working.

Dave

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#7901

FromDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
Date2025-10-08 13:42 -0600
Message-ID<mknt48F3mo2U4@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7900
David H Durgee wrote:
> Richmond wrote:
>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>
>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>
>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
>>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens.
>>>
>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>
>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>
>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>
>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>>>
>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>
>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>>
>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
>>> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>
>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable
>> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>
> 
> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections, but 
> perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one for that 
> email address, so that may be the problem.
> 
> I will look into how I need to get that working.
> 
> Dave

The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I fix that?

Dave

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#7902

FromMark Bourne <nntp.mbourne@spamgourmet.com>
Date2025-10-08 20:59 +0100
Message-ID<10c6fqq$1ril4$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7901
David H Durgee wrote:
> David H Durgee wrote:
>> Richmond wrote:
>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>
>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
>>>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens.
>>>>
>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
>>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>
>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>
>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>
>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>>>>
>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>
>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
>>>> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>
>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable
>>> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>
>>
>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections, but 
>> perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one for that 
>> email address, so that may be the problem.
>>
>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>
>> Dave
> 
> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I fix that?
> 
> Dave

I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is 
NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which 
domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other 
domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load 
Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured ABE 
rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled by 
default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default even if 
enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know you've enabled 
ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to work out how to adjust 
whatever rules you've set up.

Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this context...!

-- 
Mark.

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#7903

FromDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
Date2025-10-08 16:11 -0600
Message-ID<mko5rsF55o1U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7902
Mark Bourne wrote:
> David H Durgee wrote:
>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>
>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
>>>>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens.
>>>>>
>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
>>>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>
>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>
>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>
>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>>>>
>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
>>>>> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>
>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable
>>>> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections, but 
>>> perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one for 
>>> that email address, so that may be the problem.
>>>
>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I fix 
>> that?
>>
>> Dave
> 
> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is 
> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which 
> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other 
> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load 
> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured ABE 
> rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled by 
> default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default even if 
> enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know you've enabled 
> ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to work out how to adjust 
> whatever rules you've set up.
> 
> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this context...!
> 

I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still see 
one No Script related error listed:

> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on https://api.login.yahoo.com/oauth2/request_auth?response_type=code&client_id=dj0yJmk9NUtCTWFMNVpTaVJmJmQ9WVdrOVJ6UjVTa2xJTXpRbWNHbzlNQS0tJnM9Y29uc3VtZXJzZWNyZXQmeD0yYw--&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Flocalhost&scope=mail-w&login_hint=dhdurgee%40yahoo.com

I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it 
sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to oauth2 
based on the URL.

Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.

Dave

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#7909

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-10-09 12:41 +0100
Message-ID<86jz14nvye.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#7903
David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:

> Mark Bourne wrote:
>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
>>>>>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
>>>>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
>>>>>> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable
>>>>> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections,
>>>> but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one
>>>> for that email address, so that may be the problem.
>>>>
>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I
>>> fix that?
>>>
>>> Dave
>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is
>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which
>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other
>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load
>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured
>> ABE rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled
>> by default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default
>> even if enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know
>> you've enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to work
>> out how to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this
>> context...!
>> 
>
> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still see
> one No Script related error listed:
>
>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on

>
> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it
> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to oauth2
> based on the URL.
>
> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>
> Dave

I am using Yahoo with Seamonkey Mail, it works, but I am using Normal
Password with 2FA. Have you checked what you are using? Is it Oauth2?
Perhaps if you log into Yahoo through the web and turn off 2FA briefly
until you get passed this authentication and then turn it on again
after?

You could also disable any extensions temporarily.

https://login.yahoo.com/myaccount/security/

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#7912

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-10-09 13:25 +0100
Message-ID<10c89jc$2mc32$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7909
On 2025-10-09, Richmond wrote:

> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>
>> Mark Bourne wrote:
>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
>>>>>>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
>>>>>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
>>>>>>> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable
>>>>>> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections,
>>>>> but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one
>>>>> for that email address, so that may be the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I
>>>> fix that?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is
>>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which
>>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other
>>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load
>>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured
>>> ABE rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled
>>> by default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default
>>> even if enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know
>>> you've enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to work
>>> out how to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this
>>> context...!
>>> 
>>
>> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still see
>> one No Script related error listed:
>>
>>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on
>
>>
>> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it
>> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to oauth2
>> based on the URL.
>>
>> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>>
>> Dave
>
> I am using Yahoo with Seamonkey Mail, it works, but I am using Normal
> Password with 2FA. Have you checked what you are using? Is it Oauth2?
> Perhaps if you log into Yahoo through the web and turn off 2FA briefly
> until you get passed this authentication and then turn it on again
> after?
>
> You could also disable any extensions temporarily.
>
> https://login.yahoo.com/myaccount/security/

If it involves a popup with a web login screen in Mail&News, it is
OAuth2.

A question is whether the login works when done for the website in the
browser, or if we're dealing with breaking changes that make it fail
with SeaMonkey overall. Also, any chance they're at least allowing other
browsers either by UA string or through a different address?

AOL (they share the 8-bit-mangling e-mail server software across brands,
so I guess they're sharing all of the web login stuff too?) web login is
failing to proceed for me here. Spinner in the "Next" button. Even with
some UA strings I tried. But even while apparently stuck, it keeps doing
requests to 3p-geo.yahoo.com, hmm. (Tested with NoScript enabled, but
with the login form page completely whitelisted).

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#7921

FromDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
Date2025-10-09 11:58 -0600
Message-ID<mkqbdpFgacoU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7903
David H Durgee wrote:
> Mark Bourne wrote:
>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
>>>>>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else 
>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
>>>>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
>>>>>> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to enable
>>>>> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections, but 
>>>> perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one for 
>>>> that email address, so that may be the problem.
>>>>
>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I fix 
>>> that?
>>>
>>> Dave
>>
>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is 
>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which 
>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other 
>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load 
>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured ABE 
>> rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled by 
>> default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default even if 
>> enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know you've 
>> enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to work out how 
>> to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>
>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this 
>> context...!
>>
> 
> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still see 
> one No Script related error listed:
> 
>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on 
>> https://api.login.yahoo.com/oauth2/request_auth?response_type=code&client_id=dj0yJmk9NUtCTWFMNVpTaVJmJmQ9WVdrOVJ6UjVTa2xJTXpRbWNHbzlNQS0tJnM9Y29uc3VtZXJzZWNyZXQmeD0yYw--&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Flocalhost&scope=mail-w&login_hint=dhdurgee%40yahoo.com 
>>
> 
> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it 
> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to oauth2 
> based on the URL.
> 
> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
> 
> Dave

I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in a Firefox 
tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able to complete to a 
point where it tried to do something with localhost that failed.  It 
even sent me an email to my backup account about a Thunderbird login.

This morning I tried the same thing in a Seamonkey tab and wind up with 
a spinner after entering the password.  Looking in the error console I see:

> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT
> Error: SyntaxError: missing : after property id
> Source File: https://s.yimg.com/aaq/benji/benji-2.3.23.js
> Line: 1, Column: 25600
> Source Code:
> s[n]=e.benji.debug.logs[n]||[]).push(r)}}class fs{_googletag;features;refreshQueue;debounceTimer;constructor(){return th

> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT
> Error: about:blank : Unable to run script because scripts are blocked internally.

> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:21 AM MDT
> Error: about:blank : Unable to run script because scripts are blocked internally.

So it appears that Yahoo is indeed doing something SeaMinkey isn't 
supporting.

Dave

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#7929

FromDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
Date2025-10-10 11:15 -0600
Message-ID<mksta3Ftec9U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7921
David H Durgee wrote:
> David H Durgee wrote:
>> Mark Bourne wrote:
>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button after I
>>>>>>> enter the email and password I get a spinner and nothing else 
>>>>>>> happens.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing problems for
>>>>>>> SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click menu.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it is
>>>>>>> non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to 
>>>>>> enable
>>>>>> javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections, 
>>>>> but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one 
>>>>> for that email address, so that may be the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I fix 
>>>> that?
>>>>
>>>> Dave
>>>
>>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is 
>>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which 
>>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other 
>>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load 
>>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured ABE 
>>> rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled by 
>>> default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default even if 
>>> enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know you've 
>>> enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to work out how 
>>> to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>>
>>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this 
>>> context...!
>>>
>>
>> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still see 
>> one No Script related error listed:
>>
>>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on 
>>> https://api.login.yahoo.com/oauth2/request_auth?response_type=code&client_id=dj0yJmk9NUtCTWFMNVpTaVJmJmQ9WVdrOVJ6UjVTa2xJTXpRbWNHbzlNQS0tJnM9Y29uc3VtZXJzZWNyZXQmeD0yYw--&redirect_uri=http%3A%2F%2Flocalhost&scope=mail-w&login_hint=dhdurgee%40yahoo.com 
>>>
>>
>> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it 
>> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to oauth2 
>> based on the URL.
>>
>> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>>
>> Dave
> 
> I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in a Firefox 
> tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able to complete to a 
> point where it tried to do something with localhost that failed.  It 
> even sent me an email to my backup account about a Thunderbird login.
> 
> This morning I tried the same thing in a Seamonkey tab and wind up with 
> a spinner after entering the password.  Looking in the error console I see:
> 
>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT
>> Error: SyntaxError: missing : after property id
>> Source File: https://s.yimg.com/aaq/benji/benji-2.3.23.js
>> Line: 1, Column: 25600
>> Source Code:
>> s[n]=e.benji.debug.logs[n]||[]).push(r)}}class 
>> fs{_googletag;features;refreshQueue;debounceTimer;constructor(){return th
> 
>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT
>> Error: about:blank : Unable to run script because scripts are blocked 
>> internally.
> 
>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:21 AM MDT
>> Error: about:blank : Unable to run script because scripts are blocked 
>> internally.
> 
> So it appears that Yahoo is indeed doing something SeaMinkey isn't 
> supporting.
> 
> Dave


I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I prefer 
SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo mail via 
IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would there be a way 
to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the SeaMonkey password 
file to get it working here?

Dave

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#7932

FromNFN Smith <worldoff9908@gmail.com>
Date2025-10-10 14:40 -0700
Message-ID<10cbuh5$bq9n$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7929
David H Durgee wrote:
> 
> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I prefer 
> SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo mail via 
> IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would there be a way 
> to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the SeaMonkey password 
> file to get it working here?

I use both Thunderbird and Seamonkey, and prefer Seamonkey, as well.

I don't believe that OAuth2 tokens are portable, even if you move a 
profile from one computer to another.

I don't know the internal mechanics of how tokens are composed, but 
they're essentially a fingerprint of your mail client, and where each 
token is entirely unique, and not reusable.

I don't believe there's a way of export and import of a token, but even 
if there was, the server in question would reject a submitted token as 
inauthentic.

Remember that the purpose of OAuth2 is for multi-factor authentication, 
where your password is "something you know", and the token is "something 
you have". I'm guessing, but the creation of a token is likely to be 
something that is done with server participation, which would mean that 
the server recognizes the configured mail client.

Although it seems intimidating, if you have a token in one client and 
want to use another client, then you have to use the second client to 
create its own token.  However, that should be simple enough to do in 
the second client if you make sure there are no saved tokens, and then 
let the process work the way intended. That means that after the server 
has been contacted (and authenticated your password), you get a pop-up 
initiated by the server that requests a re-entry of your password.  When 
the password is correct, then the token will be created, and 
subsequently, should be invisible to you.

Smith

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#7934

FromDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
Date2025-10-10 17:53 -0600
Message-ID<mktkklF2mtgU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7932
NFN Smith wrote:
> David H Durgee wrote:
>>
>> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I 
>> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo 
>> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would there 
>> be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the SeaMonkey 
>> password file to get it working here?
> 
> I use both Thunderbird and Seamonkey, and prefer Seamonkey, as well.
> 
> I don't believe that OAuth2 tokens are portable, even if you move a 
> profile from one computer to another.
> 
> I don't know the internal mechanics of how tokens are composed, but 
> they're essentially a fingerprint of your mail client, and where each 
> token is entirely unique, and not reusable.
> 
> I don't believe there's a way of export and import of a token, but even 
> if there was, the server in question would reject a submitted token as 
> inauthentic.
> 
> Remember that the purpose of OAuth2 is for multi-factor authentication, 
> where your password is "something you know", and the token is "something 
> you have". I'm guessing, but the creation of a token is likely to be 
> something that is done with server participation, which would mean that 
> the server recognizes the configured mail client.
> 
> Although it seems intimidating, if you have a token in one client and 
> want to use another client, then you have to use the second client to 
> create its own token.  However, that should be simple enough to do in 
> the second client if you make sure there are no saved tokens, and then 
> let the process work the way intended. That means that after the server 
> has been contacted (and authenticated your password), you get a pop-up 
> initiated by the server that requests a re-entry of your password.  When 
> the password is correct, then the token will be created, and 
> subsequently, should be invisible to you.
> 
> Smith


The difficulty is that something in SeaMonkey is preventing me from 
completing the dialog to create the token.  If I copy the URL to a 
Firefox window I AM able to complete the dialog but encounter an error 
when it refers to a localhost URL even though a login notice is sent to 
my backup email address.

So at this point it appears I am unable to work with Yahoo mail on 
SeaMonkey at all.

Dave

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#7938

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-10-11 13:07 +0100
Message-ID<86jz11k5f6.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#7934
David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:

> NFN Smith wrote:
>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>
>>> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I
>>> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo
>>> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would
>>> there be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the
>>> SeaMonkey password file to get it working here?  >> I use both
>>> Thunderbird and Seamonkey, and prefer Seamonkey, as well.  >> I
>>> don't believe that OAuth2 tokens are portable, even if you move a >>
>>> profile from one computer to another.  >> I don't know the internal
>>> mechanics of how tokens are composed, but >> they're essentially a
>>> fingerprint of your mail client, and where >> each token is entirely
>>> unique, and not reusable.  >> I don't believe there's a way of
>>> export and import of a token, but >> even if there was, the server
>>> in question would reject a submitted >> token as inauthentic.  >>
>>> Remember that the purpose of OAuth2 is for multi-factor >>
>>> authentication, where your password is "something you know", and the
>>> >> token is "something you have". I'm guessing, but the creation of
>>> a >> token is likely to be something that is done with server >>
>>> participation, which would mean that the server recognizes the >>
>>> configured mail client.  >> Although it seems intimidating, if you
>>> have a token in one client >> and want to use another client, then
>>> you have to use the second >> client to create its own token. 
>>> However, that should be simple >> enough to do in the second client
>>> if you make sure there are no >> saved tokens, and then let the
>>> process work the way intended. That >> means that after the server
>>> has been contacted (and authenticated >> your password), you get a
>>> pop-up initiated by the server that >> requests a re-entry of your
>>> password.  When the password is correct, >> then the token will be
>>> created, and subsequently, should be >> invisible to you.  >> Smith
>
>
> The difficulty is that something in SeaMonkey is preventing me from
> completing the dialog to create the token.  If I copy the URL to a
> Firefox window I AM able to complete the dialog but encounter an error
> when it refers to a localhost URL even though a login notice is sent
> to my backup email address.
>
> So at this point it appears I am unable to work with Yahoo mail on
> SeaMonkey at all.
>

I decided to recreate the problem. I created a new profile and set up an
email account for my yahoo email. I changed the connection security to
TLS and Oauth2. Then when I tried to access my email I got a login to
yahoo window. I clicked Next as the email was prefilled, but it would
not do anything. I clicked Next again and got a two many connections
error.

I would recommend you use an app password and 2fa until this is fixed or
forever.

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#7939

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2025-10-12 00:06 +1100
Message-ID<10cdknq$pi87$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#7938
On 11/10/2025 11:07 pm, Richmond wrote:
> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>> NFN Smith wrote:
>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I
>>>> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo
>>>> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would
>>>> there be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the
>>>> SeaMonkey password file to get it working here?  >> I use both
>>>> Thunderbird and Seamonkey, and prefer Seamonkey, as well.  >> I
>>>> don't believe that OAuth2 tokens are portable, even if you move a >>
>>>> profile from one computer to another.  >> I don't know the internal
>>>> mechanics of how tokens are composed, but >> they're essentially a
>>>> fingerprint of your mail client, and where >> each token is entirely
>>>> unique, and not reusable.  >> I don't believe there's a way of
>>>> export and import of a token, but >> even if there was, the server
>>>> in question would reject a submitted >> token as inauthentic.  >>
>>>> Remember that the purpose of OAuth2 is for multi-factor >>
>>>> authentication, where your password is "something you know", and the
>>>>>> token is "something you have". I'm guessing, but the creation of
>>>> a >> token is likely to be something that is done with server >>
>>>> participation, which would mean that the server recognizes the >>
>>>> configured mail client.  >> Although it seems intimidating, if you
>>>> have a token in one client >> and want to use another client, then
>>>> you have to use the second >> client to create its own token.
>>>> However, that should be simple >> enough to do in the second client
>>>> if you make sure there are no >> saved tokens, and then let the
>>>> process work the way intended. That >> means that after the server
>>>> has been contacted (and authenticated >> your password), you get a
>>>> pop-up initiated by the server that >> requests a re-entry of your
>>>> password.  When the password is correct, >> then the token will be
>>>> created, and subsequently, should be >> invisible to you.  >> Smith
>>
>> The difficulty is that something in SeaMonkey is preventing me from
>> completing the dialog to create the token.  If I copy the URL to a
>> Firefox window I AM able to complete the dialog but encounter an error
>> when it refers to a localhost URL even though a login notice is sent
>> to my backup email address.
>>
>> So at this point it appears I am unable to work with Yahoo mail on
>> SeaMonkey at all.
> 
> I decided to recreate the problem. I created a new profile and set up an
> email account for my yahoo email. I changed the connection security to
> TLS and Oauth2. Then when I tried to access my email I got a login to
> yahoo window. I clicked Next as the email was prefilled, but it would
> not do anything. I clicked Next again and got a two many connections
> error.

Ah! Well, I beat you. When I enter/pre-fill my e-mail and click "Next", 
I atleast get a screen to enter my "Password" ... but then clicking the 
"Next" only gets me the Spinning Circle I've mentioned before.

(For clarity, this happens when I try to log-in to Read my Mail in a 
Browser window.)
> 
> I would recommend you use an app password and 2fa until this is fixed or
> forever.
> 
-- 
Daniel70

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#7976

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-10-14 14:02 +0100
Message-ID<868qhdocu9.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#7929
David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:

> David H Durgee wrote:
>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>> Mark Bourne wrote:
>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button
>>>>>>>> after I enter the email and password I get a spinner and
>>>>>>>> nothing else happens.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing
>>>>>>>> problems for SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click
>>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on imap...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given it
>>>>>>>> is non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to
>>>>>>> enable javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections,
>>>>>> but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show one
>>>>>> for that email address, so that may be the problem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I
>>>>> fix that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is
>>>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which
>>>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other
>>>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load
>>>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured
>>>> ABE rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled
>>>> by default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default
>>>> even if enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know
>>>> you've enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to
>>>> work out how to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>>>
>>>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this
>>>> context...!
>>>>
>>>
>>> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still
>>> see one No Script related error listed:
>>>
>>>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on
>>>> https://api.login.yahoo.com...
>>>
>>> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it
>>> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to
>>> oauth2 based on the URL.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>>>
>>> Dave I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in a
>> Firefox tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able to
>> complete to a point where it tried to do something with localhost
>> that failed.  It even sent me an email to my backup account about a
>> Thunderbird login.  This morning I tried the same thing in a
>> Seamonkey tab and wind up with a spinner after entering the
>> password.  Looking in the error console I see:
>> 
>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: SyntaxError: missing :
>>> after property id Source File:
>>> https://s.yimg.com/aaq/benji/benji-2.3.23.js Line: 1, Column: 25600
>>> Source Code: s[n]=e.benji.debug.logs[n]||[]).push(r)}}class
>>> fs{_googletag;features;refreshQueue;debounceTimer;constructor(){return
>>> th
>> 
>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.
>> 
>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:21 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.  >> So it appears
>>> that Yahoo is indeed doing something SeaMinkey isn't >> supporting.
>>> >> Dave
>
>
> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I
> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo
> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would there
> be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the SeaMonkey
> password file to get it working here?
>

When I tried with Thunderbird, the next thing which came up after the
password prompt (which was where it got stuck with seamonkey) was a
dialog requesting that I choose where to send a
one-time-password. I.e. the 2fa dialog. It was possible to select from
the url but it had 'thunderbird' embedded in it, so I didn't bother to
try. Another thing I noticed when using Seamonkey is that when you get
stuck on the password prompt you can click "yahoo" top left and you get
prompted to accept cookies. After tha however there is no way to go back
to the password prompt.

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#7977

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-10-14 14:28 +0100
Message-ID<864is1obnp.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#7976
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:

> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>
>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>> Mark Bourne wrote:
>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button
>>>>>>>>> after I enter the email and password I get a spinner and
>>>>>>>>> nothing else happens.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing
>>>>>>>>> problems for SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click
>>>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on
>>>>>>>>> imap...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given
>>>>>>>>> it is non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have to
>>>>>>>> enable javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail connections,
>>>>>>> but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords do not show
>>>>>>> one for that email address, so that may be the problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I
>>>>>> fix that?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is
>>>>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which
>>>>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other
>>>>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load
>>>>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured
>>>>> ABE rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't enabled
>>>>> by default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by default
>>>>> even if enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully you'd know
>>>>> you've enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of a clue to
>>>>> work out how to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this
>>>>> context...!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still
>>>> see one No Script related error listed:
>>>>
>>>>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on
>>>>> https://api.login.yahoo.com...
>>>>
>>>> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it
>>>> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to
>>>> oauth2 based on the URL.
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>>>>
>>>> Dave I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in
>>> a Firefox tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able to
>>> complete to a point where it tried to do something with localhost
>>> that failed.  It even sent me an email to my backup account about a
>>> Thunderbird login.  This morning I tried the same thing in a
>>> Seamonkey tab and wind up with a spinner after entering the
>>> password.  Looking in the error console I see:
>>> 
>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: SyntaxError: missing :
>>>> after property id Source File:
>>>> https://s.yimg.com/aaq/benji/benji-2.3.23.js Line: 1, Column: 25600
>>>> Source Code: s[n]=e.benji.debug.logs[n]||[]).push(r)}}class
>>>> fs{_googletag;features;refreshQueue;debounceTimer;constructor(){return
>>>> th
>>> 
>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.
>>> 
>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:21 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.  >> So it
>>>> appears that Yahoo is indeed doing something SeaMinkey isn't >>
>>>> supporting.  >> Dave
>>
>>
>> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I
>> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo
>> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would
>> there be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the
>> SeaMonkey password file to get it working here?
>>
>
> When I tried with Thunderbird, the next thing which came up after the
> password prompt (which was where it got stuck with seamonkey) was a
> dialog requesting that I choose where to send a
> one-time-password. I.e. the 2fa dialog. It was possible to select from
> the url but it had 'thunderbird' embedded in it, so I didn't bother to
> try. Another thing I noticed when using Seamonkey is that when you get
> stuck on the password prompt you can click "yahoo" top left and you
> get prompted to accept cookies. After tha however there is no way to
> go back to the password prompt.

I've noticed that if I disable javascript I can get the 2FA popup,
however I don't get any further than that. Perhaps what is needed is an
on-the-fly javascript toggle button.

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#7978

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-10-14 16:02 +0100
Message-ID<86wm4xmsqy.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#7977
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:

> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>
>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>
>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>> Mark Bourne wrote:
>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button
>>>>>>>>>> after I enter the email and password I get a spinner and
>>>>>>>>>> nothing else happens.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing
>>>>>>>>>> problems for SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click
>>>>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on
>>>>>>>>>> imap...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given
>>>>>>>>>> it is non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have
>>>>>>>>> to enable javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail
>>>>>>>> connections, but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords
>>>>>>>> do not show one for that email address, so that may be the
>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I
>>>>>>> fix that?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is
>>>>>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which
>>>>>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other
>>>>>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load
>>>>>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured
>>>>>> ABE rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't
>>>>>> enabled by default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by
>>>>>> default even if enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully
>>>>>> you'd know you've enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of
>>>>>> a clue to work out how to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this
>>>>>> context...!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still
>>>>> see one No Script related error listed:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on
>>>>>> https://api.login.yahoo.com...
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it
>>>>> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to
>>>>> oauth2 based on the URL.
>>>>>
>>>>> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in
>>>> a Firefox tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able
>>>> to complete to a point where it tried to do something with
>>>> localhost that failed.  It even sent me an email to my backup
>>>> account about a Thunderbird login.  This morning I tried the same
>>>> thing in a Seamonkey tab and wind up with a spinner after entering
>>>> the password.  Looking in the error console I see:
>>>> 
>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: SyntaxError: missing :
>>>>> after property id Source File:
>>>>> https://s.yimg.com/aaq/benji/benji-2.3.23.js Line: 1, Column:
>>>>> 25600 Source Code: s[n]=e.benji.debug.logs[n]||[]).push(r)}}class
>>>>> fs{_googletag;features;refreshQueue;debounceTimer;constructor(){return
>>>>> th
>>>> 
>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.
>>>> 
>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:21 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.  >> So it
>>>>> appears that Yahoo is indeed doing something SeaMinkey isn't >>
>>>>> supporting.  >> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I
>>> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo
>>> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would
>>> there be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the
>>> SeaMonkey password file to get it working here?
>>>
>>
>> When I tried with Thunderbird, the next thing which came up after the
>> password prompt (which was where it got stuck with seamonkey) was a
>> dialog requesting that I choose where to send a
>> one-time-password. I.e. the 2fa dialog. It was possible to select
>> from the url but it had 'thunderbird' embedded in it, so I didn't
>> bother to try. Another thing I noticed when using Seamonkey is that
>> when you get stuck on the password prompt you can click "yahoo" top
>> left and you get prompted to accept cookies. After tha however there
>> is no way to go back to the password prompt.
>
> I've noticed that if I disable javascript I can get the 2FA popup,
> however I don't get any further than that. Perhaps what is needed is
> an on-the-fly javascript toggle button.

I did it! I logged into Yahoo Webmail using Seamonkey. I had to ask an
AI to create a Javascript toggle button extension. Then I entered user
name and password without javascript until the 2fa prompt came up, then
I enabled javascript and logged in. It's only taken a few hours. :(

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#7981

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-10-14 19:29 +0100
Message-ID<86seflmj4x.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#7978
Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:

> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>
>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>> Mark Bourne wrote:
>>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button
>>>>>>>>>>> after I enter the email and password I get a spinner and
>>>>>>>>>>> nothing else happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing
>>>>>>>>>>> problems for SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click
>>>>>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on
>>>>>>>>>>> imap...
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given
>>>>>>>>>>> it is non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have
>>>>>>>>>> to enable javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail
>>>>>>>>> connections, but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords
>>>>>>>>> do not show one for that email address, so that may be the
>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I
>>>>>>>> fix that?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is
>>>>>>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which
>>>>>>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other
>>>>>>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load
>>>>>>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured
>>>>>>> ABE rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't
>>>>>>> enabled by default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by
>>>>>>> default even if enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully
>>>>>>> you'd know you've enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of
>>>>>>> a clue to work out how to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this
>>>>>>> context...!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still
>>>>>> see one No Script related error listed:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on
>>>>>>> https://api.login.yahoo.com...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it
>>>>>> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to
>>>>>> oauth2 based on the URL.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in
>>>>> a Firefox tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able
>>>>> to complete to a point where it tried to do something with
>>>>> localhost that failed.  It even sent me an email to my backup
>>>>> account about a Thunderbird login.  This morning I tried the same
>>>>> thing in a Seamonkey tab and wind up with a spinner after entering
>>>>> the password.  Looking in the error console I see:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: SyntaxError: missing :
>>>>>> after property id Source File:
>>>>>> https://s.yimg.com/aaq/benji/benji-2.3.23.js Line: 1, Column:
>>>>>> 25600 Source Code: s[n]=e.benji.debug.logs[n]||[]).push(r)}}class
>>>>>> fs{_googletag;features;refreshQueue;debounceTimer;constructor(){return
>>>>>> th
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:21 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.  >> So it
>>>>>> appears that Yahoo is indeed doing something SeaMinkey isn't >>
>>>>>> supporting.  >> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I
>>>> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo
>>>> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would
>>>> there be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the
>>>> SeaMonkey password file to get it working here?
>>>>
>>>
>>> When I tried with Thunderbird, the next thing which came up after the
>>> password prompt (which was where it got stuck with seamonkey) was a
>>> dialog requesting that I choose where to send a
>>> one-time-password. I.e. the 2fa dialog. It was possible to select
>>> from the url but it had 'thunderbird' embedded in it, so I didn't
>>> bother to try. Another thing I noticed when using Seamonkey is that
>>> when you get stuck on the password prompt you can click "yahoo" top
>>> left and you get prompted to accept cookies. After tha however there
>>> is no way to go back to the password prompt.
>>
>> I've noticed that if I disable javascript I can get the 2FA popup,
>> however I don't get any further than that. Perhaps what is needed is
>> an on-the-fly javascript toggle button.
>
> I did it! I logged into Yahoo Webmail using Seamonkey. I had to ask an
> AI to create a Javascript toggle button extension. Then I entered user
> name and password without javascript until the 2fa prompt came up, then
> I enabled javascript and logged in. It's only taken a few hours. :(

I have also got Yahoo Oauth2 working with Seamonkey, but I am not
entirely sure how I did it, other than turning javascript on and off,
and sort of inching forward a bit further each time.

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#7985

FromDavid H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net>
Date2025-10-14 13:47 -0600
Message-ID<ml7nn4Fpko7U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#7981
Richmond wrote:
> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
> 
>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>
>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>> Mark Bourne wrote:
>>>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>>>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button
>>>>>>>>>>>> after I enter the email and password I get a spinner and
>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing else happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing
>>>>>>>>>>>> problems for SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click
>>>>>>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on
>>>>>>>>>>>> imap...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have
>>>>>>>>>>> to enable javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail
>>>>>>>>>> connections, but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords
>>>>>>>>>> do not show one for that email address, so that may be the
>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I
>>>>>>>>> fix that?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is
>>>>>>>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which
>>>>>>>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other
>>>>>>>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load
>>>>>>>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured
>>>>>>>> ABE rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't
>>>>>>>> enabled by default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by
>>>>>>>> default even if enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully
>>>>>>>> you'd know you've enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of
>>>>>>>> a clue to work out how to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this
>>>>>>>> context...!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still
>>>>>>> see one No Script related error listed:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on
>>>>>>>> https://api.login.yahoo.com...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it
>>>>>>> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to
>>>>>>> oauth2 based on the URL.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dave I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in
>>>>>> a Firefox tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able
>>>>>> to complete to a point where it tried to do something with
>>>>>> localhost that failed.  It even sent me an email to my backup
>>>>>> account about a Thunderbird login.  This morning I tried the same
>>>>>> thing in a Seamonkey tab and wind up with a spinner after entering
>>>>>> the password.  Looking in the error console I see:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: SyntaxError: missing :
>>>>>>> after property id Source File:
>>>>>>> https://s.yimg.com/aaq/benji/benji-2.3.23.js Line: 1, Column:
>>>>>>> 25600 Source Code: s[n]=e.benji.debug.logs[n]||[]).push(r)}}class
>>>>>>> fs{_googletag;features;refreshQueue;debounceTimer;constructor(){return
>>>>>>> th
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:21 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.  >> So it
>>>>>>> appears that Yahoo is indeed doing something SeaMinkey isn't >>
>>>>>>> supporting.  >> Dave
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I
>>>>> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo
>>>>> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would
>>>>> there be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the
>>>>> SeaMonkey password file to get it working here?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> When I tried with Thunderbird, the next thing which came up after the
>>>> password prompt (which was where it got stuck with seamonkey) was a
>>>> dialog requesting that I choose where to send a
>>>> one-time-password. I.e. the 2fa dialog. It was possible to select
>>>> from the url but it had 'thunderbird' embedded in it, so I didn't
>>>> bother to try. Another thing I noticed when using Seamonkey is that
>>>> when you get stuck on the password prompt you can click "yahoo" top
>>>> left and you get prompted to accept cookies. After tha however there
>>>> is no way to go back to the password prompt.
>>>
>>> I've noticed that if I disable javascript I can get the 2FA popup,
>>> however I don't get any further than that. Perhaps what is needed is
>>> an on-the-fly javascript toggle button.
>>
>> I did it! I logged into Yahoo Webmail using Seamonkey. I had to ask an
>> AI to create a Javascript toggle button extension. Then I entered user
>> name and password without javascript until the 2fa prompt came up, then
>> I enabled javascript and logged in. It's only taken a few hours. :(
> 
> I have also got Yahoo Oauth2 working with Seamonkey, but I am not
> entirely sure how I did it, other than turning javascript on and off,
> and sort of inching forward a bit further each time.
> 

I tired this approach with my imap mail account and I got to the point 
of the 2FA choice, but after putting in the code I get the spinner when 
I check the box to stay verified and click the next button.

You both say you got into webmail.  Did that place an Oauth2 token in 
the password file?  If so, I will have to try that myself and see if the 
problem is solved in mail as well.

Dave

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#7986

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-10-14 21:05 +0100
Message-ID<86jz0xmeq3.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#7985
David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:

> Richmond wrote:
>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>> 
>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>>> Mark Bourne wrote:
>>>>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> David H Durgee wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Richmond wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> writes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Starting yesterday I am getting a problematic popup from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> imap.mail.yahoo.com every time it tries to check for mail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The popup requests that I login, but when I click the button
>>>>>>>>>>>>> after I enter the email and password I get a spinner and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing else happens.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am assuming that something about the popup is causing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems for SeaMonkey 2.53.21 here.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The URL for the window shows as:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://login.yahoo.com/?src=thunderbird&clientid=<long string>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The window can be moved but remains on top.  No right click
>>>>>>>>>>>>> menu.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cannot highlight and copy the URL.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The window title is "Enter credentials for" <myemai> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>> imap...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Obviously I cannot access yahoo mail at the moment and given
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it is non-functional all I can do is close the window.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> How do I get this corrected?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like it is trying to set up Oauth2. Maybe you have
>>>>>>>>>>>> to enable javascript? Or maybe it is requesting 2FA?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I thought I had Oauth2 already setup on all my mail
>>>>>>>>>>> connections, but perhaps I missed it.  Looking in my passwords
>>>>>>>>>>> do not show one for that email address, so that may be the
>>>>>>>>>>> problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I will look into how I need to get that working.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The error console shows [ABE} errors relating to this.  How do I
>>>>>>>>>> fix that?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dave
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I don't know if it might have other meanings, but to me "ABE" is
>>>>>>>>> NoScript's "Application Boundaries Enforcer" that restricts which
>>>>>>>>> domains can load Javascript and other resources from which other
>>>>>>>>> domains.  It could be that the Yahoo login page is trying to load
>>>>>>>>> Javascript from another Yahoo domain, and maybe you've configured
>>>>>>>>> ABE rules that prevent that.  As far as I recall ABE isn't
>>>>>>>>> enabled by default in NoScript, and has very few restrictions by
>>>>>>>>> default even if enabled.  So if that is the problem, hopefully
>>>>>>>>> you'd know you've enabled ABE at some point and that's enough of
>>>>>>>>> a clue to work out how to adjust whatever rules you've set up.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or it could be "ABE" has a completely different meaning in this
>>>>>>>>> context...!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I disabled ABE in No Script and those messages went away.  I still
>>>>>>>> see one No Script related error listed:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [NoScript] Force text/plain for missing content-type on
>>>>>>>>> https://api.login.yahoo.com...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I don't know if that is directly related to the problem or not, it
>>>>>>>> sounds pretty innocuous and appears to confirm this relates to
>>>>>>>> oauth2 based on the URL.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately I am still getting nowhere with this.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dave I thought to try something with the above URL, I opened it in
>>>>>>> a Firefox tab enabling all scripting it requested and it was able
>>>>>>> to complete to a point where it tried to do something with
>>>>>>> localhost that failed.  It even sent me an email to my backup
>>>>>>> account about a Thunderbird login.  This morning I tried the same
>>>>>>> thing in a Seamonkey tab and wind up with a spinner after entering
>>>>>>> the password.  Looking in the error console I see:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: SyntaxError: missing :
>>>>>>>> after property id Source File:
>>>>>>>> https://s.yimg.com/aaq/benji/benji-2.3.23.js Line: 1, Column:
>>>>>>>> 25600 Source Code: s[n]=e.benji.debug.logs[n]||[]).push(r)}}class
>>>>>>>> fs{_googletag;features;refreshQueue;debounceTimer;constructor(){return
>>>>>>>> th
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:19 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>>>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Timestamp: 10/9/25, 11:51:21 AM MDT Error: about:blank : Unable to
>>>>>>>> run script because scripts are blocked internally.  >> So it
>>>>>>>> appears that Yahoo is indeed doing something SeaMinkey isn't >>
>>>>>>>> supporting.  >> Dave
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have Thunderbird on my system as well, but I don't use it as I
>>>>>> prefer SeaMonkey.  If I were to set up Thunderbird to access Yahoo
>>>>>> mail via IMAP and SMTP with oauth2, assuming it will work, would
>>>>>> there be a way to pull the oauth2 entry from it and add it to the
>>>>>> SeaMonkey password file to get it working here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> When I tried with Thunderbird, the next thing which came up after the
>>>>> password prompt (which was where it got stuck with seamonkey) was a
>>>>> dialog requesting that I choose where to send a
>>>>> one-time-password. I.e. the 2fa dialog. It was possible to select
>>>>> from the url but it had 'thunderbird' embedded in it, so I didn't
>>>>> bother to try. Another thing I noticed when using Seamonkey is that
>>>>> when you get stuck on the password prompt you can click "yahoo" top
>>>>> left and you get prompted to accept cookies. After tha however there
>>>>> is no way to go back to the password prompt.
>>>>
>>>> I've noticed that if I disable javascript I can get the 2FA popup,
>>>> however I don't get any further than that. Perhaps what is needed is
>>>> an on-the-fly javascript toggle button.
>>>
>>> I did it! I logged into Yahoo Webmail using Seamonkey. I had to ask an
>>> AI to create a Javascript toggle button extension. Then I entered user
>>> name and password without javascript until the 2fa prompt came up, then
>>> I enabled javascript and logged in. It's only taken a few hours. :(
>> I have also got Yahoo Oauth2 working with Seamonkey, but I am not
>> entirely sure how I did it, other than turning javascript on and off,
>> and sort of inching forward a bit further each time.
>> 
>
> I tired this approach with my imap mail account and I got to the point
> of the 2FA choice, but after putting in the code I get the spinner
> when I check the box to stay verified and click the next button.
>
> You both say you got into webmail.  Did that place an Oauth2 token in
> the password file?  If so, I will have to try that myself and see if
> the problem is solved in mail as well.
>

I have just repeated this with a different profile and it worked
again. I will try to record it while I remember it: So I turn off
javascript, set authentication to Oauth2, go to the yahoo email account
and click on the inbox, the restricted window comes up, I enter the user
name and password, I get the 2fa dialog, I click text message to phone,
I click stay authenticated, then I go back to the browser window and
enable javascript. I click resend the code and wait for the timeout,
then resend again, and I get a code, which I enter, then it askes me to
agree to Oauth2 terms, and I am in, and I can see emails in my Yahoo
account via Imap.

This didn't all work first time, and at some point during the
proceedings, after javascript was re-enabled, I clicked help and
accepted cookies.

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