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Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication

Started by"Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com>
First post2025-11-21 15:13 +0100
Last post2025-11-27 03:00 +0100
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  Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-11-21 15:13 +0100
    Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication David H Durgee <dhdurgee@privacy.net> - 2025-11-21 09:28 -0700
    Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-11-21 16:52 +0000
      Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-22 20:43 +1100
        Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-11-22 12:52 +0000
          Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-23 19:43 +1100
            Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication R Daneel Olivaw <Danni@hyperspace.vogon.gov.invalid> - 2025-11-23 16:15 +0100
              Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-24 20:18 +1100
                Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 20:06 +0100
                  Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-25 21:32 +1100
                    Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-11-27 03:05 +0100
                      Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 10:28 +0000
                        Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Nuno Silva (testing)" <nuno.silva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 13:15 +0200
                          Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 21:29 +0100
                            Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 21:34 +0100
                              Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-15 11:00 +0000
                          Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-12-13 22:11 +0100
      Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-11-23 15:57 +0100
        Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-11-23 15:25 +0000
          Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 02:27 +0100
            Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 02:48 +0100
              Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Nuno Silva (testing)" <nuno.silva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 13:20 +0200
                Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Nuno Silva (testing)" <nuno.silva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 13:31 +0200
            Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Richmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com> - 2025-11-24 20:32 +0000
              Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-11-24 21:58 +0100
              Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Schugo <schugo@schugo.de> - 2025-11-24 22:07 +0100
                Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Daniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org> - 2025-11-25 21:40 +1100
                Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 10:25 +0000
            Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> - 2025-12-13 10:18 +0000
    Re: Seamonkey Mail can't pass OAuth2 authentication "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> - 2025-11-27 03:00 +0100

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#8179

From"Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-24 02:48 +0100
Message-ID<10g0dgq$20ag7$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8178
El 24/11/2025 a las 2:27, Jota.Ce escribió:
> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió:
>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió:
>>>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without providing
>>>>> a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2 token?), as a
>>>>> popup window appears requiring username and password when i try to
>>>>> retrieve new mails.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is when i fill the password and in the next window i have
>>>>> to click on "Continue" in "Trust in <your organizarion domain>?"
>>>>> question.
>>>>>
>>>>> That button does nothing and both buttons (Cancel and Continue) stand
>>>>> in grey forever. There's no change to fill the new OTP code provided
>>>>> by our authenticator app.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made this process several times, and SeaMonkey was able to
>>>>> handle this without problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestion?
>>>> I had problems with Yahoo which I got around by disabling and
>>>> re-enabling javascript during the authentication process. It was not
>>>> easy but I did document it in this group.
>>>>
>>> Hi again.
>>>
>>> If i disable Scripts in Preferences->Advanced, i just get a blank
>>> screen on Oath2 authentication in my organization. I mean... i can't
>>> pass to get that "Do you trust in xxx.com?".
>>>
>>> If i keep it enabled to get the organization user sign-in screen, and
>>> disable it before clicking "Sign-in" button, it just shows a simple
>>> screen where login (.) microsoftonline (.) com says that javascript is
>>> disabled and is mandatory.
>>>
>>> Could you please copy here what were your steps to pass through these limitations?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> So I turn off javascript, set authentication to Oauth2, go to the yahoo
>> email account and click on the inbox, the restricted window comes up, I
>> enter the user name and password, I get the 2fa dialog, I click text
>> message to phone, I click stay authenticated, then I go back to the
>> browser window and enable javascript. I click resend the code and wait
>> for the timeout, then resend again, and I get a code, which I enter,
>> then it askes me to agree to Oauth2 terms, and I am in, and I can see
>> emails in my Yahoo account via Imap.
>>
>> This didn't all work first time, and at some point during the
>> proceedings, after javascript was re-enabled, I clicked help and
>> accepted cookies.
>>
> Thanks, but i can't reproduce that behaviour in my case.
> 
> But the curious thing is that "Do you trust..." window has this titlebar:
> login (.) microsoftonline (.) com (/) login (.) srf and...
>   - In a regular tab, if i manually go there, it redirects to m365 (.) cloud (.) microsoft and i get a pure blank screen.
>   - In a private tab, it takes me to MS login, and 2FA screen, without asking me to trust my domain.
>   - In SM Mail Oauth2 popup, it takes me to my organization Sing-in form, and then to the "Do you trust..." screen. It doesn't get to 2FA screen 
> even if i confirm i trust my domain.
>   - And a weird thing more: in "Do you trust..." form "Cancel" button works OK, telling that "AADSTS90135: The user decided not to continue the 
> authentication. No remediation is required"
> 
> It seems that SM can't pass that latter screen, no matter if JS is enabled (Continue button turns from blue to grey, and nothing else happens 
> there) or disabled (simple HTML screen tells you JS is disabled, and it's mandatory).
> 
> I'm feeling really down with this.
> 
> SM Mail is probably going to die here if i can't access my work mails.
> 
> Regards.
I'm adding another fact and give up for now.

Since some months ago, i can access web mail with SM cause it is handled by outlook web version, and it fails with a error about JavaScript. But 
if i start the process to get there in a regular tab, i have to sign-in in my organization, then i have to go to mail and then it asks for my 
trust in that domain.

If i click on "Continue" i see the same behaviour: Both buttons keep on grey and nothing happens. But i can refresh that page, and then 
(surprisely) get to 2FA screen.

On Oauth2 popup screen i can't press any shorcut to any function as Go back, Go forth, Refresh,... All actions are disabled: keyboard and mouse.

Is there any way to force a refresh on that popup window?

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#8231

From"Nuno Silva (testing)" <nuno.silva@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-13 13:20 +0200
Message-ID<10hji6n$3vm8s$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8179
Jota.Ce wrote:
> El 24/11/2025 a las 2:27, Jota.Ce escribió:
>> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió:
>>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió:
>>>>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without providing
>>>>>> a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2 token?), as a
>>>>>> popup window appears requiring username and password when i try to
>>>>>> retrieve new mails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is when i fill the password and in the next window i have
>>>>>> to click on "Continue" in "Trust in <your organizarion domain>?"
>>>>>> question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That button does nothing and both buttons (Cancel and Continue) stand
>>>>>> in grey forever. There's no change to fill the new OTP code provided
>>>>>> by our authenticator app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have made this process several times, and SeaMonkey was able to
>>>>>> handle this without problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestion?
>>>>> I had problems with Yahoo which I got around by disabling and
>>>>> re-enabling javascript during the authentication process. It was not
>>>>> easy but I did document it in this group.
>>>>>
>>>> Hi again.
>>>>
>>>> If i disable Scripts in Preferences->Advanced, i just get a blank
>>>> screen on Oath2 authentication in my organization. I mean... i can't
>>>> pass to get that "Do you trust in xxx.com?".
>>>>
>>>> If i keep it enabled to get the organization user sign-in screen, and
>>>> disable it before clicking "Sign-in" button, it just shows a simple
>>>> screen where login (.) microsoftonline (.) com says that javascript is
>>>> disabled and is mandatory.
>>>>
>>>> Could you please copy here what were your steps to pass through 
>>>> these limitations?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> So I turn off javascript, set authentication to Oauth2, go to the yahoo
>>> email account and click on the inbox, the restricted window comes up, I
>>> enter the user name and password, I get the 2fa dialog, I click text
>>> message to phone, I click stay authenticated, then I go back to the
>>> browser window and enable javascript. I click resend the code and wait
>>> for the timeout, then resend again, and I get a code, which I enter,
>>> then it askes me to agree to Oauth2 terms, and I am in, and I can see
>>> emails in my Yahoo account via Imap.
>>>
>>> This didn't all work first time, and at some point during the
>>> proceedings, after javascript was re-enabled, I clicked help and
>>> accepted cookies.
>>>
>> Thanks, but i can't reproduce that behaviour in my case.
>>
>> But the curious thing is that "Do you trust..." window has this titlebar:
>> login (.) microsoftonline (.) com (/) login (.) srf and...
>>   - In a regular tab, if i manually go there, it redirects to m365 (.) 
>> cloud (.) microsoft and i get a pure blank screen.
>>   - In a private tab, it takes me to MS login, and 2FA screen, without 
>> asking me to trust my domain.
>>   - In SM Mail Oauth2 popup, it takes me to my organization Sing-in 
>> form, and then to the "Do you trust..." screen. It doesn't get to 2FA 
>> screen even if i confirm i trust my domain.
>>   - And a weird thing more: in "Do you trust..." form "Cancel" button 
>> works OK, telling that "AADSTS90135: The user decided not to continue 
>> the authentication. No remediation is required"
>>
>> It seems that SM can't pass that latter screen, no matter if JS is 
>> enabled (Continue button turns from blue to grey, and nothing else 
>> happens there) or disabled (simple HTML screen tells you JS is 
>> disabled, and it's mandatory).
>>
>> I'm feeling really down with this.
>>
>> SM Mail is probably going to die here if i can't access my work mails.
>>
>> Regards.
> I'm adding another fact and give up for now.
> 
> Since some months ago, i can access web mail with SM cause it is handled 
> by outlook web version, and it fails with a error about JavaScript. But 
> if i start the process to get there in a regular tab, i have to sign-in 
> in my organization, then i have to go to mail and then it asks for my 
> trust in that domain.
> 
> If i click on "Continue" i see the same behaviour: Both buttons keep on 
> grey and nothing happens. But i can refresh that page, and then 
> (surprisely) get to 2FA screen.
> 
> On Oauth2 popup screen i can't press any shorcut to any function as Go 
> back, Go forth, Refresh,... All actions are disabled: keyboard and mouse.
> 
> Is there any way to force a refresh on that popup window?

I should have replied here, but ended up replying at another point in 
the thread:

news://news.blueworldhosting.com/<10hjhsh$3vk5r$1@dont-email.me>
http://newsgrouper.org/<10hjhsh$3vk5r$1@dont-email.me>

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#8232

From"Nuno Silva (testing)" <nuno.silva@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-13 13:31 +0200
Message-ID<10hjird$3vv7e$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8231
Nuno Silva (testing) wrote:
> Jota.Ce wrote:
>> El 24/11/2025 a las 2:27, Jota.Ce escribió:
>>> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió:
>>>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió:
>>>>>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without 
>>>>>>> providing
>>>>>>> a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2 token?), as a
>>>>>>> popup window appears requiring username and password when i try to
>>>>>>> retrieve new mails.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The problem is when i fill the password and in the next window i 
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> to click on "Continue" in "Trust in <your organizarion domain>?"
>>>>>>> question.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That button does nothing and both buttons (Cancel and Continue) 
>>>>>>> stand
>>>>>>> in grey forever. There's no change to fill the new OTP code provided
>>>>>>> by our authenticator app.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have made this process several times, and SeaMonkey was able to
>>>>>>> handle this without problems.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any suggestion?
>>>>>> I had problems with Yahoo which I got around by disabling and
>>>>>> re-enabling javascript during the authentication process. It was not
>>>>>> easy but I did document it in this group.
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>
>>>>> If i disable Scripts in Preferences->Advanced, i just get a blank
>>>>> screen on Oath2 authentication in my organization. I mean... i can't
>>>>> pass to get that "Do you trust in xxx.com?".
>>>>>
>>>>> If i keep it enabled to get the organization user sign-in screen, and
>>>>> disable it before clicking "Sign-in" button, it just shows a simple
>>>>> screen where login (.) microsoftonline (.) com says that javascript is
>>>>> disabled and is mandatory.
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please copy here what were your steps to pass through 
>>>>> these limitations?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> So I turn off javascript, set authentication to Oauth2, go to the yahoo
>>>> email account and click on the inbox, the restricted window comes up, I
>>>> enter the user name and password, I get the 2fa dialog, I click text
>>>> message to phone, I click stay authenticated, then I go back to the
>>>> browser window and enable javascript. I click resend the code and wait
>>>> for the timeout, then resend again, and I get a code, which I enter,
>>>> then it askes me to agree to Oauth2 terms, and I am in, and I can see
>>>> emails in my Yahoo account via Imap.
>>>>
>>>> This didn't all work first time, and at some point during the
>>>> proceedings, after javascript was re-enabled, I clicked help and
>>>> accepted cookies.
>>>>
>>> Thanks, but i can't reproduce that behaviour in my case.
>>>
>>> But the curious thing is that "Do you trust..." window has this 
>>> titlebar:
>>> login (.) microsoftonline (.) com (/) login (.) srf and...
>>>   - In a regular tab, if i manually go there, it redirects to m365 
>>> (.) cloud (.) microsoft and i get a pure blank screen.
>>>   - In a private tab, it takes me to MS login, and 2FA screen, 
>>> without asking me to trust my domain.
>>>   - In SM Mail Oauth2 popup, it takes me to my organization Sing-in 
>>> form, and then to the "Do you trust..." screen. It doesn't get to 2FA 
>>> screen even if i confirm i trust my domain.
>>>   - And a weird thing more: in "Do you trust..." form "Cancel" button 
>>> works OK, telling that "AADSTS90135: The user decided not to continue 
>>> the authentication. No remediation is required"
>>>
>>> It seems that SM can't pass that latter screen, no matter if JS is 
>>> enabled (Continue button turns from blue to grey, and nothing else 
>>> happens there) or disabled (simple HTML screen tells you JS is 
>>> disabled, and it's mandatory).
>>>
>>> I'm feeling really down with this.
>>>
>>> SM Mail is probably going to die here if i can't access my work mails.
>>>
>>> Regards.
>> I'm adding another fact and give up for now.
>>
>> Since some months ago, i can access web mail with SM cause it is 
>> handled by outlook web version, and it fails with a error about 
>> JavaScript. But if i start the process to get there in a regular tab, 
>> i have to sign-in in my organization, then i have to go to mail and 
>> then it asks for my trust in that domain.
>>
>> If i click on "Continue" i see the same behaviour: Both buttons keep 
>> on grey and nothing happens. But i can refresh that page, and then 
>> (surprisely) get to 2FA screen.
>>
>> On Oauth2 popup screen i can't press any shorcut to any function as Go 
>> back, Go forth, Refresh,... All actions are disabled: keyboard and mouse.
>>
>> Is there any way to force a refresh on that popup window?
> 
> I should have replied here, but ended up replying at another point in 
> the thread:
> 
> news://news.blueworldhosting.com/<10hjhsh$3vk5r$1@dont-email.me>
> http://newsgrouper.org/<10hjhsh$3vk5r$1@dont-email.me>
> 

Sorry, I should have ensured <> were quoted in these addresses:

news://news.blueworldhosting.com/%3C10hjhsh$3vk5r$1@dont-email.me%3E
http://newsgrouper.org/%3C10hjhsh$3vk5r$1@dont-email.me%3E

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#8183

FromRichmond <dnomhcir@gmx.com>
Date2025-11-24 20:32 +0000
Message-ID<86cy57w4r2.fsf@example.com>
In reply to#8178
"Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:

> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
><josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>>><josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without
>>>>> providing a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2
>>>>> token?), as a popup window appears requiring username and password
>>>>> when i try to retrieve new mails.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is when i fill the password and in the next window i
>>>>> have to click on "Continue" in "Trust in <your organizarion
>>>>> domain>?"  question.
>>>>>
>>>>> That button does nothing and both buttons (Cancel and Continue)
>>>>> stand in grey forever. There's no change to fill the new OTP code
>>>>> provided by our authenticator app.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made this process several times, and SeaMonkey was able to
>>>>> handle this without problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestion?  I had problems with Yahoo which I got around by
>>>> disabling and re-enabling javascript during the authentication
>>>> process. It was not easy but I did document it in this group.
>>>>
>>> Hi again.
>>>
>>> If i disable Scripts in Preferences->Advanced, i just get a blank
>>> screen on Oath2 authentication in my organization. I mean... i can't
>>> pass to get that "Do you trust in xxx.com?".
>>>
>>> If i keep it enabled to get the organization user sign-in screen,
>>> and disable it before clicking "Sign-in" button, it just shows a
>>> simple screen where login (.) microsoftonline (.) com says that
>>> javascript is disabled and is mandatory.
>>>
>>> Could you please copy here what were your steps to pass through
>>> these limitations?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.  So I turn off javascript, set authentication to
>> Oauth2, go to the yahoo email account and click on the inbox, the
>> restricted window comes up, I enter the user name and password, I get
>> the 2fa dialog, I click text message to phone, I click stay
>> authenticated, then I go back to the browser window and enable
>> javascript. I click resend the code and wait for the timeout, then
>> resend again, and I get a code, which I enter, then it askes me to
>> agree to Oauth2 terms, and I am in, and I can see emails in my Yahoo
>> account via Imap.  This didn't all work first time, and at some point
>> during the proceedings, after javascript was re-enabled, I clicked
>> help and accepted cookies.
>> 
> Thanks, but i can't reproduce that behaviour in my case.
>
> But the curious thing is that "Do you trust..." window has this
> titlebar: login (.) microsoftonline (.) com (/) login (.) srf and...
> - In a regular tab, if i manually go there, it redirects to m365 (.)
> cloud (.) microsoft and i get a pure blank screen.  - In a private
> tab, it takes me to MS login, and 2FA screen, without asking me to
> trust my domain.  - In SM Mail Oauth2 popup, it takes me to my
> organization Sing-in form, and then to the "Do you trust..."
> screen. It doesn't get to 2FA screen even if i confirm i trust my
> domain.  - And a weird thing more: in "Do you trust..." form "Cancel"
> button works OK, telling that "AADSTS90135: The user decided not to
> continue the authentication. No remediation is required"
>
> It seems that SM can't pass that latter screen, no matter if JS is
> enabled (Continue button turns from blue to grey, and nothing else
> happens there) or disabled (simple HTML screen tells you JS is
> disabled, and it's mandatory).
>
> I'm feeling really down with this.
>
> SM Mail is probably going to die here if i can't access my work mails.
>
> Regards.

If you are using a business email provided by Microsoft as a third party
then it maybe it requires the client to be registered with Azure. I
spent much time trying to understand all that without much success. I
have an outlook email account working with Oauth2, but it is a free
email address, it might be different for a business address. I think NFN
Smith posted about it some time ago but my news server doesn't go back
very far.

Maybe also search Bugzilla.

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#8184

From"Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-24 21:58 +0100
Message-ID<10g2gtn$2q1l3$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8183
El 24/11/2025 a las 21:32, Richmond escribió:
> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>> <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>>>> <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without
>>>>>> providing a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2
>>>>>> token?), as a popup window appears requiring username and password
>>>>>> when i try to retrieve new mails.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The problem is when i fill the password and in the next window i
>>>>>> have to click on "Continue" in "Trust in <your organizarion
>>>>>> domain>?"  question.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That button does nothing and both buttons (Cancel and Continue)
>>>>>> stand in grey forever. There's no change to fill the new OTP code
>>>>>> provided by our authenticator app.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have made this process several times, and SeaMonkey was able to
>>>>>> handle this without problems.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any suggestion?  I had problems with Yahoo which I got around by
>>>>> disabling and re-enabling javascript during the authentication
>>>>> process. It was not easy but I did document it in this group.
>>>>>
>>>> Hi again.
>>>>
>>>> If i disable Scripts in Preferences->Advanced, i just get a blank
>>>> screen on Oath2 authentication in my organization. I mean... i can't
>>>> pass to get that "Do you trust in xxx.com?".
>>>>
>>>> If i keep it enabled to get the organization user sign-in screen,
>>>> and disable it before clicking "Sign-in" button, it just shows a
>>>> simple screen where login (.) microsoftonline (.) com says that
>>>> javascript is disabled and is mandatory.
>>>>
>>>> Could you please copy here what were your steps to pass through
>>>> these limitations?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.  So I turn off javascript, set authentication to
>>> Oauth2, go to the yahoo email account and click on the inbox, the
>>> restricted window comes up, I enter the user name and password, I get
>>> the 2fa dialog, I click text message to phone, I click stay
>>> authenticated, then I go back to the browser window and enable
>>> javascript. I click resend the code and wait for the timeout, then
>>> resend again, and I get a code, which I enter, then it askes me to
>>> agree to Oauth2 terms, and I am in, and I can see emails in my Yahoo
>>> account via Imap.  This didn't all work first time, and at some point
>>> during the proceedings, after javascript was re-enabled, I clicked
>>> help and accepted cookies.
>>>
>> Thanks, but i can't reproduce that behaviour in my case.
>>
>> But the curious thing is that "Do you trust..." window has this
>> titlebar: login (.) microsoftonline (.) com (/) login (.) srf and...
>> - In a regular tab, if i manually go there, it redirects to m365 (.)
>> cloud (.) microsoft and i get a pure blank screen.  - In a private
>> tab, it takes me to MS login, and 2FA screen, without asking me to
>> trust my domain.  - In SM Mail Oauth2 popup, it takes me to my
>> organization Sing-in form, and then to the "Do you trust..."
>> screen. It doesn't get to 2FA screen even if i confirm i trust my
>> domain.  - And a weird thing more: in "Do you trust..." form "Cancel"
>> button works OK, telling that "AADSTS90135: The user decided not to
>> continue the authentication. No remediation is required"
>>
>> It seems that SM can't pass that latter screen, no matter if JS is
>> enabled (Continue button turns from blue to grey, and nothing else
>> happens there) or disabled (simple HTML screen tells you JS is
>> disabled, and it's mandatory).
>>
>> I'm feeling really down with this.
>>
>> SM Mail is probably going to die here if i can't access my work mails.
>>
>> Regards.
> 
> If you are using a business email provided by Microsoft as a third party
> then it maybe it requires the client to be registered with Azure. I
> spent much time trying to understand all that without much success. I
> have an outlook email account working with Oauth2, but it is a free
> email address, it might be different for a business address. I think NFN
> Smith posted about it some time ago but my news server doesn't go back
> very far.
> 
> Maybe also search Bugzilla.
> 
I think it's not.

Even more... If you got to that last 2FA step in Firefox, next screen you see is your inbox. Seamonkey just fails loading it. Now i know this fact.

But now i'm more positive in another branch of this thread... In regular tabs, when both "Do you trust..." buttons turn grey, just hit F5 and 
then you get to 2FA screen. In that SM Mail popup window i can't press F5, right click,... all "external" actions are not allowed. But i guess 
that maybe is a way to allow a forced refresh to pass to 2FA and get a new OAuth2 token.

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#8185

FromSchugo <schugo@schugo.de>
Date2025-11-24 22:07 +0100
Message-ID<10g2hfs$2q9qj$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8183
On 24.11.2025 21:32, Richmond wrote:
> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
> 
>> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>><josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>> 
>>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>>>><josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without
>>>>>> providing a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2
>>>>>> token?), as a popup window appears requiring username and password
>>>>>> when i try to retrieve new mails.

I don't really understand you ppl...

hotmail, yahoo, microsoft, googlemail???

fucking shit

for like 4-8$ / mo you get 1000 email adresses 100GB space +
webserver/php/mysql. simple IMAP/POP3 login with password
with a standard webservice provider worldwide.

all the webmailers are enshittified bullshit -> ALWAYS HAS BEEN!

LOSERS!

ciao..

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#8187

FromDaniel70 <daniel47@nomail.afraid.org>
Date2025-11-25 21:40 +1100
Message-ID<10g412s$3b4ck$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8185
On 25/11/2025 8:07 am, Schugo wrote:
> On 24.11.2025 21:32, Richmond wrote:
>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>>> <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>>>>> <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without
>>>>>>> providing a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2
>>>>>>> token?), as a popup window appears requiring username and password
>>>>>>> when i try to retrieve new mails.
> 
> I don't really understand you ppl...
> 
> hotmail, yahoo, microsoft, googlemail???
> 
> fucking shit
> 
> for like 4-8$ / mo you get 1000 email adresses 100GB space +
> webserver/php/mysql. simple IMAP/POP3 login with password
> with a standard webservice provider worldwide.
> 
> all the webmailers are enshittified bullshit -> ALWAYS HAS BEEN!
> 
> LOSERS!
> 
> ciao..
> 
Maybe so ..... but for what *normal* reason might a person require 1000 
email addresses??
-- 
Daniel70

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#8228

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-13 10:25 +0000
Message-ID<10hjeu9$3tbas$3@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8185
On 2025-11-24, Schugo wrote:

> On 24.11.2025 21:32, Richmond wrote:
>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>> 
>>> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>>><josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>> 
>>>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió: > "Jota.Ce"
>>>>><josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without
>>>>>>> providing a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2
>>>>>>> token?), as a popup window appears requiring username and password
>>>>>>> when i try to retrieve new mails.
>
> I don't really understand you ppl...
>
> hotmail, yahoo, microsoft, googlemail???
>
> fucking shit
>
> for like 4-8$ / mo you get 1000 email adresses 100GB space +
> webserver/php/mysql. simple IMAP/POP3 login with password
> with a standard webservice provider worldwide.
>
> all the webmailers are enshittified bullshit -> ALWAYS HAS BEEN!
>
> LOSERS!
>
> ciao..

A key part here is when it's *not* hotmail/free. I don't like one domain
where I have an account being managed/hosted by Microsoft - that really
makes the thing more complicated than it has to be - but if I want to
use that mailbox, I have to go with that... and I guess some here are in
a more complicated situation where it's not just a mailbox, but e.g. the
school or work mailbox.

(One good thing in having such an account is that I can, at least, test
OAuth2 and the like in SeaMonkey, and not just with Hotmail.)

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#8227

FromNuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-12-13 10:18 +0000
Message-ID<10hjehh$3tbas$2@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8178
On 2025-11-24, Jota.Ce wrote:

> El 23/11/2025 a las 16:25, Richmond escribió:
>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>> El 21/11/2025 a las 17:52, Richmond escribió:
>>>> "Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without providing
>>>>> a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2 token?), as a
>>>>> popup window appears requiring username and password when i try to
>>>>> retrieve new mails.
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is when i fill the password and in the next window i have
>>>>> to click on "Continue" in "Trust in <your organizarion domain>?"
>>>>> question.
>>>>>
>>>>> That button does nothing and both buttons (Cancel and Continue) stand
>>>>> in grey forever. There's no change to fill the new OTP code provided
>>>>> by our authenticator app.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have made this process several times, and SeaMonkey was able to
>>>>> handle this without problems.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any suggestion?
>>>> I had problems with Yahoo which I got around by disabling and
>>>> re-enabling javascript during the authentication process. It was not
>>>> easy but I did document it in this group.
>>>>
>>> Hi again.
>>>
>>> If i disable Scripts in Preferences->Advanced, i just get a blank
>>> screen on Oath2 authentication in my organization. I mean... i can't
>>> pass to get that "Do you trust in xxx.com?".
>>>
>>> If i keep it enabled to get the organization user sign-in screen, and
>>> disable it before clicking "Sign-in" button, it just shows a simple
>>> screen where login (.) microsoftonline (.) com says that javascript is
>>> disabled and is mandatory.
>>>
>>> Could you please copy here what were your steps to pass through these limitations?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> So I turn off javascript, set authentication to Oauth2, go to the yahoo
>> email account and click on the inbox, the restricted window comes up, I
>> enter the user name and password, I get the 2fa dialog, I click text
>> message to phone, I click stay authenticated, then I go back to the
>> browser window and enable javascript. I click resend the code and wait
>> for the timeout, then resend again, and I get a code, which I enter,
>> then it askes me to agree to Oauth2 terms, and I am in, and I can see
>> emails in my Yahoo account via Imap.
>>
>> This didn't all work first time, and at some point during the
>> proceedings, after javascript was re-enabled, I clicked help and
>> accepted cookies.
>>
> Thanks, but i can't reproduce that behaviour in my case.
>
> But the curious thing is that "Do you trust..." window has this titlebar:
> login (.) microsoftonline (.) com (/) login (.) srf and...
>  - In a regular tab, if i manually go there, it redirects to m365 (.)
> cloud (.) microsoft and i get a pure blank screen.
>  - In a private tab, it takes me to MS login, and 2FA screen, without
> asking me to trust my domain.
>  - In SM Mail Oauth2 popup, it takes me to my organization Sing-in
> form, and then to the "Do you trust..." screen. It doesn't get to 2FA
> screen even if i confirm i trust my domain.
>  - And a weird thing more: in "Do you trust..." form "Cancel" button
> works OK, telling that "AADSTS90135: The user decided not to continue
> the authentication. No remediation is required"
>
> It seems that SM can't pass that latter screen, no matter if JS is
> enabled (Continue button turns from blue to grey, and nothing else
> happens there) or disabled (simple HTML screen tells you JS is
> disabled, and it's mandatory).
>
> I'm feeling really down with this.
>
> SM Mail is probably going to die here if i can't access my work mails.
>
> Regards.

I don't think I've ever seen such a screen. What domain is the one
you're being prompted about trusting? No need to put it here if it's
personally identifiable or the like, I'm just trying to understand if
it's ISP domain, work/organisation domain, email address domain, or
something else.

Last I tried OAuth2 with Microsoft was this month, but it was for a
Hotmail account, it logged me in, but went through no such screen (just
two-factor with e-mailed code). I'll see if I can give a try to the
non-Hotmail Microsoft account in a new profile.

-- 
Nuno Silva

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#8188

From"Jota.Ce" <josecss.es@gmail.com>
Date2025-11-27 03:00 +0100
Message-ID<10g8bcb$107tk$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#8166
El 21/11/2025 a las 15:13, Jota.Ce escribió:
> Hi there.
> 
> I think i have reached the limit of days i can stay without providing a new authentication in my organization (new OAuth2 token?), as a popup 
> window appears requiring username and password when i try to retrieve new mails.
> 
> The problem is when i fill the password and in the next window i have to click on "Continue" in "Trust in <your organizarion domain>?" question.
> 
> That button does nothing and both buttons (Cancel and Continue) stand in grey forever. There's no change to fill the new OTP code provided by 
> our authenticator app.
> 
> I have made this process several times, and SeaMonkey was able to handle this without problems.
> 
> Any suggestion?
I'm starting another branch here...

Thunderbird can connect without problems at home, and can pass OAuth2 token generation with 2FA validation.

Is there any way to "steal" that OAuth2 token from Thunderbird and put it into Seamonkey?

Is it a file? Is it a text inside a file? Is it bound to Thundebird only?

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