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Firefox warnings

Started byWerner Warweg <werner@warweg.com>
First post2025-04-07 20:26 +0200
Last post2025-04-07 13:56 -0600
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  Firefox warnings Werner Warweg <werner@warweg.com> - 2025-04-07 20:26 +0200
    Re: Firefox warnings EnDeeGee <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2025-04-07 15:07 -0400
      Re: Firefox warnings rcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc) - 2025-04-07 19:11 +0000
    Re: Firefox warnings VanguardLH <V@nguard.LH> - 2025-04-07 14:14 -0500
    Re: Firefox warnings Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> - 2025-04-07 20:16 +0100
    Re: Firefox warnings Nobody <jock@soccer.com> - 2025-04-07 12:22 -0700
    Re: Firefox warnings Jeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com> - 2025-04-07 13:56 -0600

#12975 — Firefox warnings

FromWerner Warweg <werner@warweg.com>
Date2025-04-07 20:26 +0200
SubjectFirefox warnings
Message-ID<vt15dd$srbf$1@solani.org>
When I visit the MuseScore site (https://musescore.com/) using Firefox, 
the latest version, I receive a message stating, "This website has been 
classified as a fraudulent site. You should not make purchases or enter 
any data here!" However, this message does not appear when using Chrome 
or other browsers. The site is operated by https://musescore.org and is 
considered one of the largest music score portals in the world. How can 
I permanently disable this warning so that I don't have to select 
"Ignore Warning" each time?

Best regards,
Werner Warweg

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#12978

FromEnDeeGee <invalid@invalid.invalid>
Date2025-04-07 15:07 -0400
Message-ID<vt17p5$su00$1@solani.org>
In reply to#12975
On 07-Apr-2025 14:26, Werner Warweg wrote:
> When I visit the MuseScore site (https://musescore.com/) using Firefox, 
> the latest version, I receive a message stating, "This website has been 
> classified as a fraudulent site. You should not make purchases or enter 
> any data here!" However, this message does not appear when using Chrome 
> or other browsers. The site is operated by https://musescore.org and is 
> considered one of the largest music score portals in the world. How can 
> I permanently disable this warning so that I don't have to select 
> "Ignore Warning" each time?
> 
> Best regards,
> Werner Warweg

No warning here from the .com or .org sites.
Firefox 137.0 Win10 Pro.

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#12979

Fromrcpj@panix.com (Pierre Jelenc)
Date2025-04-07 19:11 +0000
Message-ID<vt1813$pf8$1@reader1.panix.com>
In reply to#12978
In article <vt17p5$su00$1@solani.org>,
EnDeeGee  <invalid@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>On 07-Apr-2025 14:26, Werner Warweg wrote:
>> When I visit the MuseScore site (https://musescore.com/) using Firefox, 
>> the latest version, I receive a message stating, "This website has been 
>> classified as a fraudulent site. You should not make purchases or enter 
>> any data here!" However, this message does not appear when using Chrome 
>> or other browsers. The site is operated by https://musescore.org and is 
>> considered one of the largest music score portals in the world. How can 
>> I permanently disable this warning so that I don't have to select 
>> "Ignore Warning" each time?
>
>No warning here from the .com or .org sites.
>Firefox 137.0 Win10 Pro.

Same here on Linus Mint. Could it be some add-on rather than FF itself 
that's the culprit?

Pierre
-- 
Pierre Jelenc	
		The Gigometer		www.gigometer.com
                The NYC Beer Guide      www.nycbeer.org

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#12980

FromVanguardLH <V@nguard.LH>
Date2025-04-07 14:14 -0500
Message-ID<70c4o8xguwns.dlg@v.nguard.lh>
In reply to#12975
Werner Warweg <werner@warweg.com> wrote:

> When I visit the MuseScore site (https://musescore.com/) using Firefox, 
> the latest version, I receive a message stating, "This website has been 
> classified as a fraudulent site. You should not make purchases or enter 
> any data here!" However, this message does not appear when using Chrome 
> or other browsers. The site is operated by https://musescore.org and is 
> considered one of the largest music score portals in the world. How can 
> I permanently disable this warning so that I don't have to select 
> "Ignore Warning" each time?

Whose DNS are you using in either the OS system settings on the IPv4 and
IPv6 connections, or in Firefox if using DoH (DNS over HTTPS)?  Some DNS
server are designed to filter out some content.

For example, I used to use Cloudflare as the DoH provider in Firefox (on
Windows).  That uses:

  https://chrome.cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query
  
Cloudflare also has a malware-filtering server that I switched to:

  https://security.cloudflare-dns.com/dns-query
  
OpenDNS, Adguard, and other DNS providers often have both non-filtering
and filtering DNS servers.  If you use DoH in Firefox, that DNS server
gets used by Firefox, not the one(s) configured in the OS.

As a test, I visited musescore.com using Firefox 137.0 on Windows 10,
and the web site rendered okay.  No warning or block by Cloudflare's DNS
server filtering.  

I have Firefox set to "Strict" under about:preferences#privacy.  I'm
using the uBlock Origin add-on which let me connect okay, but blocked 5
domains, triggered 2 cosmetic filters, 9 blocked remote fonts, and 12
blocked Javascript sources.  I also have HTTPS Always enabled.  There
are probably other lockdowns I have in Firefox, but it connected okay.

When I click on the shield icon at the left of the address bar ->
Connection secure -> More information -> View certificate, I see their
site cert JUST got renewed (a new one created) with valid date ranges
of:

Not Before  Fri, 07 Mar 2025 00:00:00 GMT
Not After   Tue, 07 Apr 2026 23:59:59 GMT

That's today when they renewed their cert.  You might've gotten screwed
with them having an expired site certificate when you visited.  Clear
Firefox's locally cached data, including its locally cached web pages:
cookies and site data, browsing & download history, and temporary cached
files and pages.  Then reload the web site to see if it works now.

Firefox is more picky on validity of site certs than Chrome.  There is
slop (invalidity) that Chrome allows that Firefox does not.  However,
all web browsers will alert when connecting to an HTTPS site with an
expired certificate.  Could be the page cache in Chrome didn't have the
web site, so it had to get a new copy of the page, but that was after
the cert renewal today.

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#12981

FromAndy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk>
Date2025-04-07 20:16 +0100
Message-ID<m5iml1F4rkiU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#12975
Werner Warweg wrote:

> When I visit the MuseScore site (https://musescore.com/) using Firefox, 
> the latest version, I receive a message stating, "This website has been 
> classified as a fraudulent site.

I don't get those warnings here in FF137 on windows

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#12982

FromNobody <jock@soccer.com>
Date2025-04-07 12:22 -0700
Message-ID<qq88vjlo8gs5qob7q3g30a7h2es5hc1qls@4ax.com>
In reply to#12975
On Mon, 7 Apr 2025 20:26:53 +0200, Werner Warweg <werner@warweg.com>
wrote:

>When I visit the MuseScore site (https://musescore.com/) using Firefox, 
>the latest version, I receive a message stating, "This website has been 
>classified as a fraudulent site. You should not make purchases or enter 
>any data here!" However, this message does not appear when using Chrome 
>or other browsers. The site is operated by https://musescore.org and is 
>considered one of the largest music score portals in the world. How can 
>I permanently disable this warning so that I don't have to select 
>"Ignore Warning" each time?
>
>Best regards,
>Werner Warweg

On Win 11 24H2 and using Ffox 137.0 with Browser Privacy set as
'Strict', I see no warning with either .com or .org.  The parent
.org/en was exceedingly slow to load.

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#12986

FromJeff Barnett <jbb@notatt.com>
Date2025-04-07 13:56 -0600
Message-ID<vt1akj$icc0$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#12975
On 4/7/2025 12:26 PM, Werner Warweg wrote:
> When I visit the MuseScore site (https://musescore.com/) using Firefox, 
> the latest version, I receive a message stating, "This website has been 
> classified as a fraudulent site. You should not make purchases or enter 
> any data here!" However, this message does not appear when using Chrome 
> or other browsers. The site is operated by https://musescore.org and is 
> considered one of the largest music score portals in the world. How can 
> I permanently disable this warning so that I don't have to select 
> "Ignore Warning" each time?
Does your AV or similar software produce this warning? Are you sure FF 
is the offender?
-- 
Jeff Barnett

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